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Really ? What gives you such absolute confidence that Ohtani is the one gambling ?
Because I have seen this scenario before with professional athletes and high profile businessmen. They want to gamble but cannot show that behavior publicly for legal or image reasons. They get an assistant who is trusted to handle their money and place bets. The bookie or the bank are investigated by law enforcement for one reason or another. Next thing you know the person trying to keep their gambling secret is named in public court filings and their reputation takes a massive hit and possible legal or business ramifications as well.

Professional sports leagues have investigated players for having steroids sent to their houses but under names of their wives or maids and let them get away with it. Everyone knew that the players were using the roids and not their gardeners or maids.
So excited to see Yamamoto have a 4.8 season ERA and Ohtani to receive a lifetime ban from baseball this year
This is why MLB is being so defensive about this. They will never lifetime ban the face of the sport. They celebrated Bonds hitting the homerun record and completely ignored the steroid and drug allegations. Because they know that most fans don't really care.
 
Because I have seen this scenario before with professional athletes and high profile businessmen. They want to gamble but cannot show that behavior publicly for legal or image reasons. They get an assistant who is trusted to handle their money and place bets. The bookie or the bank are investigated by law enforcement for one reason or another. Next thing you know the person trying to keep their gambling secret is named in public court filings and their reputation takes a massive hit and possible legal or business ramifications as well.

Professional sports leagues have investigated players for having steroids sent to their houses but under names of their wives or maids and let them get away with it. Everyone knew that the players were using the roids and not their gardeners or maids.

This is why MLB is being so defensive about this. They will never lifetime ban the face of the sport. They celebrated Bonds hitting the homerun record and completely ignored the steroid and drug allegations. Because they know that most fans don't really care.

I see. How many of these scenarios that you've seen in the past involve Japanese individuals ?

How many of them come from countries where gambling is illegal and no casinos exist ?

How many of them are from a culture where concepts of societal expectations, clear lines between right and wrong and excelling as a group are hammered into kids from a young age ?

Rhetorical questions, I know, because you have no comparable situations. On top of the above, Ohtani was a "yakyuu shounen" (Baseball kid) who went off to a hostel for young and talented Baseball players, leading a monastic life centered around Baseball. His parents are also still together and provided a foundation for the children of discipline and hard work (both of them having had long involvements with organized sports.

Neither of us can be vindicated until all of the details are laid bare, but I'm confident that Ohtani wasn't the one gambling.
 
And niggers grow up in America where homicide is illegal, but they still manage to wage a small war every year.

Just because it's illegal doesn't mean people won't do it.

This couldn't be a more apples and oranges situation.

You're taking niggers, who are pathologically compelled to respond to situations with violence due to low IQs and bad impulse control (even in the face of education and training) and comparing them to Japanese people (some of the most disciplined, regimented and rule-fearing people on the planet).

Sure, there's a very small possibility that Ohtani himself was gambling, but I'm confident that wasn't the case when you consider all of the factors that I've already laid out.
 
The gambling scandal made the national evening news. It's not going away. I could see them sweeping it up for now and blaming the translator fully then details of Ohtani's role leak later on. Maybe the Dodgers keep it in their pocket in case they want to invalidate the contract. With the Pete Rose thing it seemed like there was always more details coming out even years after the ban.
 
@Illidan Stormrage it's not that deep broski. He bet on it, but it's ok. He's the face of the sport and with draft kings being pumped by MLB they don't have much leverage. The fans don't care.

This too will pass.
 
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J.D. Martinez, Mets reach agreement on 1-year deal (sources)​

JD Martinez signs 1 year/12M deal with the Mets
Some money deferred into the 2030's

oof just 2 articles down

Voit makes back-field roster push ahead of opt-out​

PORT ST. LUCIE, Fla. -- By Saturday, Luke Voit will know if he has made the Mets.
Voit, a 33-year-old veteran on a Minor League deal, has a March 23 opt-out in his contract. When Mets officials return from their trip to the Tampa Bay area this weekend, they will need to have a conversation with him, one way or the other.
“I think I have a chance,” Voit said Thursday before playing in a Minor League game at the team’s Clover Park complex -- an eventful afternoon that saw him take a pitch off his helmet but stay in the game with no obvious ill effects. “Obviously, it’s not the spring I wanted to have statistically, but I’ve done a lot of work throughout it.
“I was doing a lot of damage on the back fields, too. I feel like at the beginning it was a little rough, and that’s kind of been frustrating. But they brought me here and told me I’d have a chance to make the team, and I feel like I’ve been making a late push for it. So we’ll see.”
You're not making the team bud. You have to feel a little for these AAAA veterans at spring training trying to get the spots. But I would think this signing makes roster spots for guys like Ji Man Choi, Ben Gamel, and Luke Voit pretty much gone.
 
Because I have seen this scenario before with professional athletes and high profile businessmen. They want to gamble but cannot show that behavior publicly for legal or image reasons. They get an assistant who is trusted to handle their money and place bets. The bookie or the bank are investigated by law enforcement for one reason or another. Next thing you know the person trying to keep their gambling secret is named in public court filings and their reputation takes a massive hit and possible legal or business ramifications as well.

Professional sports leagues have investigated players for having steroids sent to their houses but under names of their wives or maids and let them get away with it. Everyone knew that the players were using the roids and not their gardeners or maids.

This is why MLB is being so defensive about this. They will never lifetime ban the face of the sport. They celebrated Bonds hitting the homerun record and completely ignored the steroid and drug allegations. Because they know that most fans don't really care.
They'll find someone else to take the fall. If there are other players doing something similar, they'll get blamed and start turning on each other.

The league has so many sus shenanigans going on, from gambling to Sticky Stuff to stealing signs. I saw something claiming that opposing players being excessively buddy-buddy on the field (beyond usual sportsmanship) could give the impression or be an indicator of a fixed game.

Those, and StatCast/Sabremetrics autism are taking all the fun out of the game.
 
I'm confident that Ohtani wasn't the one gambling.

So either he made illegal payments (with federal wire fraud charges potentially tacked on) and would therefore be up for punishment from MLB, or his buddy really did steal the money from him in which case Ippei will be prosecuted and sent to prison.

The fact that MLB says he's not under investigation means either his buddy is about to be criminally charged and will likely end up in prison for the theft of millions, or if he's not criminally charged and Ohtani still isn't investigated by MLB then we know the real story which is Ohtani was gambling and MLB will never give up their golden boy.

In which case, Pete Rose should strip naked and drive a truck through the front door of Cooperstown.
 
You know you have some proficiency in Japanese when you see the name "Ippei Mizuhara" and immediately know which kanji it contains.
For the record, these are the kanji: 水原一平
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With all the craziness around the Ohtani-Mizuhara situation, ESPN has published a timeline of events that is current as of today, March 22nd. I’m on mobile so apologies for no archive link. This is long, so I’ll put it in spoilers.

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7:30 p.m. ET Sunday (8:30 a.m. Monday in Seoul, South Korea): According to a Major League Baseball source, MLB commissioner Rob Manfred, while in South Korea preparing for the season-opening series between the Dodgers and the San Diego Padres, learns something is happening concerning Ohtani. A source would later say MLB started seeking answers from federal authorities in California early Monday but received no response.

3 p.m. ET Monday (4 a.m. Tuesday in Seoul):ESPN contacts Ohtani's agent, Nez Balelo, to ask about information it has found, including that Ohtani's name appeared to be on two wire transfers totaling $1 million. The transfers had been sent last September and October to the Southern California bookmaking operation of Mathew Bowyer. ESPN receives no immediate response.

5:30 p.m. ET Monday (6:30 a.m. Tuesday in Seoul): A crisis-communications spokesman for Ohtani, who had just been hired, responds to ESPN. Over the next several hours, he and an ESPN reporter talk at various times as the spokesman says he is getting up to speed on information from the Ohtani camp.

8:30 p.m. ET Monday (9:30 a.m. Tuesday in Seoul): The spokesman for the first time says Ohtani paid the debts on behalf of Mizuhara. He says Balelo, the agent, went to Mizuhara, who "finally came clean to him and said that was the truth," and that Ohtani told Balelo he had covered Mizuhara's debts in $500,000 increments. It's not clear whether the spokesman is saying Ohtani communicated with Balelo through Mizuhara.

The spokesman quotes Ohtani as saying: "'Yeah, I sent several large payments. That's the maximum amount I could send.'"

The ESPN reporter, knowing the spokesman worked for Ohtani, wants to hear it from Mizuhara. The spokesman says he will work on arranging that.

9:05 p.m. ET Tuesday (10:05 a.m. Wednesday in Seoul): The Ohtani spokesman confirms to ESPN that the gambling debt amounted to at least $4.5 million, which ESPN had previously learned from other sources.

10:30 p.m. ET Tuesday (11:30 a.m. Wednesday in Seoul): Mizuhara speaks with an ESPN reporter by phone for 90 minutes from South Korea. The interview has been arranged -- and is attended -- by the Ohtani spokesman.

Mizuhara tells ESPN he met Bowyer at a poker game in San Diego in 2021. Atlanta Braves infielder David Fletcher, who was friends with Ohtani when they both played for the Los Angeles Angels, had previously told ESPN that he was present at the poker game, but he said he did not introduce the bookie and the interpreter. Fletcher and a source with knowledge of Bowyer's operation told ESPN that Bowyer gained admittance to the poker game at the team hotel through an acquaintance of Fletcher's. Fletcher told ESPN he had met Bowyer once before while playing golf, and that he had never placed a bet with Bowyer's organization.

In the ESPN interview, Mizuhara says he started betting with Bowyer on credit shortly after they met, placing wagers on several sports -- but not baseball. He says he had previously bet on DraftKings and didn't know Bowyer's operation was illegal. At the time, his salary with the Angels was about $85,000, he says, and by the end of 2022 he had lost over $1 million and was borrowing money from friends and family.

"I couldn't share this with Shohei. It was hard for me to make my ends meet. I was going paycheck to paycheck," Mizuhara says. "Because I kind of had to keep up with his lifestyle. But at the same time, I didn't want to tell him this."

He describes his relationship with Ohtani, whom he first met in 2013, as "brothers," and says he spends more time with Ohtani than with his wife.

Mizuhara's debt ballooned to $4 million by early 2023, he tells ESPN, and that's when he says he went to Ohtani for help. He says he feared losing Ohtani's trust, and he also feared for his safety, that someone might come to his house.

"I explained my situation," he says. "And obviously he wasn't happy about it, but he said he would help me."

Asked if Ohtani knew the person owed the money was a bookie, Mizuhara says his friend "didn't have any clue."

"I just told him I need to send a wire to pay off the debt," Mizuhara says. "He didn't ask if it was illegal, didn't question me about that."

Mizuhara says that, after Ohtani agreed to pay the debts, the two of them logged into Ohtani's bank account on Ohtani's computer and sent eight or nine transactions, each at $500,000, over several months. They added "loan" to the description field in the transactions. Mizuhara estimates the final payment was made in October.

Asked by ESPN if he thought he would be putting himself or Ohtani at risk by asking Ohtani to pay the debts, Mizuhara says, "I don't think either of us thought about that at the time at all."

Mizuhara declines to tell ESPN the full amount he lost gambling but confirms it's at least $4.5 million. He calls it "embarrassing."

"My wife doesn't even know about any of this until even right now," he says.

He says he felt uncomfortable and guilty for a few weeks after asking Ohtani to pay back his debts, but that Ohtani moved on. "It was hard to see him," Mizuhara says, "He's a great guy and pretty much he went on with his life like nothing ever happened."

Asked if he intended to pay back Ohtani, Mizuhara says he told his friend he would. He adds that Ohtani has never gambled and "thinks gambling is terrible."

"He sees that people, teammates would be gambling all the time, and he'll be like, 'Why are they doing this? Gambling is not good.' He would make comments like that. People would ask him to go to casinos on road trips, and he would never go. No, he's not into it."

6:05 a.m. ET Wednesday (7:05 p.m. in Seoul):The Dodgers open the 2024 season against the Padres, winning 5-2. Ohtani gets two hits and is seen in the dugout laughing with Mizuhara in the final minutes of the game.

9 a.m. ET Wednesday (10 p.m. in Seoul): An MLB source says officials are aware of what Mizuhara told ESPN the previous night -- that Ohtani had covered his debts. The source says MLB still has not heard back from federal authorities.

10 a.m. ET Wednesday (11 p.m. in Seoul): After the game, the Dodgers hold a meeting in the clubhouse, where team owner Mark Walter tells the players a negative story is coming, according to a team official later interviewed by ESPN. Mizuhara apologizes, according to the official, and tells the team he has a gambling addiction. A Dodgers executive, Andrew Friedman, stands up and says Ohtani had helped to cover Mizuhara's losses, the team official and others present said.

On the way back to the hotel, Ohtani starts asking questions about what had been said in the clubhouse, the Ohtani spokesman told ESPN, and his representatives say that's when Ohtani told them he didn't recognize Mizuhara's version of the events. According to the Dodgers official and Ohtani's spokesman, Ohtani's representatives had continued to rely on Mizuhara to communicate with Ohtani while they were dealing with the situation, and Mizuhara did not tell Ohtani what was happening.

According to the Ohtani spokesman, Ohtani discovers for the first time Wednesday that money is missing from his account.

11:32 a.m. ET Wednesday (12:32 a.m. Thursday in Seoul): Ohtani's spokesman advises ESPN not to publish its story. "Ippei was lying," he says. "Shohei didn't know." In a rapid series of phone calls that follow, the spokesman emphasizes that all communication between Ohtani and his agent had gone through Mizuhara.

1:15 p.m. ET Wednesday (2:15 a.m. Thursday in Seoul): Because of the seriousness of that allegation and emerging inconsistencies in the accounts, ESPN demands that Ohtani's spokesman go on the record with the theft allegations and gives him a 1:45 p.m. deadline. The Ohtani spokesman says Mizuhara is despondent and needs to explain his situation to his family, and that attorneys are preparing a statement. The spokesman promises a statement by 2 p.m.

2 p.m. ET Wednesday (3 a.m. Thursday in Seoul): Ohtani's lawyers at Berk Brettler LLP issue a statement to ESPN: "In the course of responding to recent media inquiries, we discovered that Shohei has been the victim of a massive theft and we are turning the matter over to the authorities."

The Ohtani spokesman declines to answer further questions, and the statement does not specify whom they believe perpetrated a theft.

2:30 p.m. ET Wednesday (3:30 a.m. Thursday in Seoul): The Dodgers fire Mizuhara immediately after learning about the alleged theft, according to a team official.

3:55 p.m. ET Wednesday (4:55 a.m. Thursday in Seoul): ESPN reaches Mizuhara by phone. He says he had lied in his previous interview and walks back much of what he had said. He tells ESPN Ohtani had no knowledge of his gambling activities, debts or efforts to repay them.

Asked if he had been accused of theft or embezzlement, he says he has been told not to comment, but he declines to say by whom.

"Obviously, this is all my fault, everything I've done," he says. "I'm ready to face all the consequences."

When did Ohtani become aware of the situation?

"They told me I can't answer anything," he says.

Ohtani's representatives? Are they representing you?

"No."

Are you taking any form of payment to tell me these things?

"No."

Have you made any kind of agreement to say these things?

"No."

You're doing this of your own volition and free will?

"Yes."

Did you bet on baseball?

"No."

Did you lie to Shohei?

"Yes."

ESPN asks if he has ever purposely misinformed Ohtani while interpreting the issues the reporter is asking about. Mizuhara says: "No, I have never done that."

The ESPN reporter texts him with a final question: Did you take the money from Shohei's accounts without his knowledge?

There is no response.

4:13 p.m. ET Wednesday (5:13 a.m. Thursday in Seoul): The Ohtani spokesman tells ESPN that what has actually happened in recent days is that Mizuhara has been able to control information to Ohtani in his position as the interpreter, and that Ohtani hadn't realized what was happening until the postgame clubhouse meeting, when a new interpreter was brought in.

"He didn't know any of it, didn't know there was some inquiry," the spokesman says. "After the game, that's when he found out. ... He didn't know what the f--- was going on."
 
'Our star player definitely didn't know anything about crimes. Definitely no knowledge at all of committing crimes.'

I don't for a minute believe Ohtani didn't know what was up. They're just desperately covering their tracks now because they've realized how bad he fucked up.

Also multiple 500k transfers in a row is retarded, it's like the first thing the feds look for for things like this.
 
So either he made illegal payments (with federal wire fraud charges potentially tacked on) and would therefore be up for punishment from MLB, or his buddy really did steal the money from him in which case Ippei will be prosecuted and sent to prison.
I'm hoping for something more wild where the yakuza is involved. Wouldn't be the first time in US pro sports (see: Tampa Bay Lightning.)
 
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