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Well guess Battletech is getting more popular then ever. Hit 3 million in less then a day.
Battletech - Also known as Trannytech
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How long until a pozzed streaming series with a troon for a protagonist, that is in a lesbian relationship with Romano Liao, can do somersaults with a Hunchback and defeats an entire clanner Assault Trinary on their first encounter.
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They're already building up Canopus to an insane degree, don't give them ideas. I'm starting to feel sorry for the Marians, they're setting them to suffer to showcase how cool the Magistracy is.
Plus, BTech writing in detail was always kinda terrible. Remember that the Clan Invasion ended with pure feudal WASP Victon Steiner-Davion (that fucked by the wayside a Guaranteed Pure Japanese Space Princess just because) decapitating with a katana a hulking, rabid black man. Imagine that happening nowadays.
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Not just that they're building up Canopus, but that so much of the fanbase have taken a tongue-in-cheek meme because of a bit of artwork about catgirls into a mission statement for the MoC. Anything goes, but I doubt that means literal catgirls, not to mention traps and troons are openly accepted in the Magistracy or by your average citizen. In certain circles among the rich and powerful? Sure, because there has always been some relationship between having the means to do any perverse thing and those with the means to make those perversions a reality. [see also: Hollywood and the friends of Jeffrey Epstein.]
I can't decide if the current crop of writers are really "allies" of the Alphabet people, are just trying to "subvert expectations" (and oh, how I hate that phrase) by being edgy, and how much is just they don't understand the setting or the fanbase and are just latching onto the current thing.
The most surprising thing about the kickstarter isn't that it's succeeding, and of course it would because the minis are wanted and they are high quality even if way out of scale with the metal ones, but that there isn't really a reason for the fanbase to back it. It isn't like backing the kickstarter makes financial sense because the minis are just about at retail cost except you end up with a couple of random loot box, sorry, I meant salvage crate, minis if you back at a certain level and end up getting a couple of free e-stories which will be available in pirated versions about ten seconds after the first fan gets them. There was even a quote where Randall flat says it's because they don't want to undercut the retail store, which really just means you're giving CGL a bunch of extra money by buying directly from them instead of your FLGS because the wholesale and distributor and storefront aren't getting their cut of the final price. And good for CGL if they've figured out a business model that allows them to take advantage of their fanbase in such a way.
The minis are nice, the cost is nice at around 6 bucks a mini as opposed to 20ish for a IWM one, the intro box set and the regular box sets are good values for what you end up getting, but like I said before, I just don't particularly need or want them because I have metal minis galore as it is. I will say CGL has definitely stepped up the quality end of their enterprise way more than FASA or FanPro ever did, but then again a lot of that is just the way the tabletop game market is these days. Even a first product start up game has to be more eye appealing than a basic black and white layout someone made in Microsoft Publisher these days.
I can't decide if the current crop of writers are really "allies" of the Alphabet people, are just trying to "subvert expectations" (and oh, how I hate that phrase) by being edgy, and how much is just they don't understand the setting or the fanbase and are just latching onto the current thing.
The most surprising thing about the kickstarter isn't that it's succeeding, and of course it would because the minis are wanted and they are high quality even if way out of scale with the metal ones, but that there isn't really a reason for the fanbase to back it. It isn't like backing the kickstarter makes financial sense because the minis are just about at retail cost except you end up with a couple of random loot box, sorry, I meant salvage crate, minis if you back at a certain level and end up getting a couple of free e-stories which will be available in pirated versions about ten seconds after the first fan gets them. There was even a quote where Randall flat says it's because they don't want to undercut the retail store, which really just means you're giving CGL a bunch of extra money by buying directly from them instead of your FLGS because the wholesale and distributor and storefront aren't getting their cut of the final price. And good for CGL if they've figured out a business model that allows them to take advantage of their fanbase in such a way.
The minis are nice, the cost is nice at around 6 bucks a mini as opposed to 20ish for a IWM one, the intro box set and the regular box sets are good values for what you end up getting, but like I said before, I just don't particularly need or want them because I have metal minis galore as it is. I will say CGL has definitely stepped up the quality end of their enterprise way more than FASA or FanPro ever did, but then again a lot of that is just the way the tabletop game market is these days. Even a first product start up game has to be more eye appealing than a basic black and white layout someone made in Microsoft Publisher these days.
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Unfortunately the MoC has been a sexually degenerate place ever since the time of the Star League. In this thread we had a long, long talk about some of the stuff they got up to.
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I get it. Even as far beck as The Periphery 1st ed it was noted as being a very permissive place. Fine, I get it. But in the last few years more than a few of the more vocal fans have pushed for it to be a place where troons are just accepted as normal and nobody blinks an eye at surgically or genetically modified catgirls on the streets. It was never portrayed as that way in the fluff, but now we're being gaslighted that it has always been that way and if we say otherwise we're being intolerant bigots and there is no place for us in the BT family. And even if it was okay in some places in the MoC, that doesn't mean it's universally accepted, either at the level where every planet is totally okay or even in every quarter of every city on Canopus IV.
It's one of those things where the personal politics of fans and newer writers are bleeding into the newer fluff and how we're supposed interpret the older stuff and they're the gatekeepers now, so people who have been playing since before newer writers were born are being told to kick rocks if they don't approve of the sea-change.
It's one of those things where the personal politics of fans and newer writers are bleeding into the newer fluff and how we're supposed interpret the older stuff and they're the gatekeepers now, so people who have been playing since before newer writers were born are being told to kick rocks if they don't approve of the sea-change.
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I'm pretty sure Canopus has always been the Las Vegas of the Inner Sphere. Like, that's not something that just happened. Jokes about Canopus cat girls go back decades.
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Field Manual - SLDF from 2012 has explicit mention of animal ear cybernetics in Canopus.
All of those divisions as part of LXXII Corps were posted on the far edge of Canopian territory in the less-settled outer reaches where there's not even a major pirate threat due to how few people live there. And you've got catboys smoking in brothels, military hovercraft used for waterskiing, and BattleMech beach volleyball in the desert sands. Obviously Hardcore is the MoC's red light district and shouldn't be taken as an example of the place as a whole, but shenanigans are common place.
But um...
So... yeah, about that sudden onset faggotry when its been canon for... 11 years or so that Canopian men wear dresses... Hell, the General is even mocked as a "dutiful Canopian husband" by his men due to him staying at base and organizing logistical matters. The place could be renamed to the Matriarchy of Canopus and everyone would just nod in approval that its finally being honest about what it is. By law only a woman can be head of state there, after all.
Let us not forget the official art of the Canopian throne room from Handbook: Major Periphery States:
Why yes, the Magestrix appears to be wearing a dress that covers very little and wearing sexy high heels and has what appears to be pleasure maidens keeping her company and a shamelessly horny female guard in the corner.
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To be fair the minis look very good, and I think I saw my favorite mech in the form of the Shadow Hawk IIC on the kickstarter somewhere.
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Even though more battle tech is good I guess and the minis look solid, I still feel like this is an overall failure for us and kind of a look into tabletop games as a hobby in general. CGL fired who many people consider the most influential author for the entire setting, and then the kickstarter gets more money then clan invasion in only a single day? Even if I don’t give CGL any of my money and that’s a personal victory, seeing this amount of success after what they pulled is basically just shoving the blackpill down my throat that most hobbyists are easily controlled cattle.
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Which wasn't how the MoC was originally written up in 1988 and then again in 1996. It's a retcon made 24 years after the first Periphery sourcebook to make it MoC more in line with some writer's headcanon than in line with what had already been established. Homosexuals? No one care. Poly family? Sure. Sex workers? Normal part of life. Then someone made a bit or art that shows a catgirl with a mechanical tail and suddenly it's "omg, catgirls really do exist in the MoC!" and because by then the Alphabet Brigade had gone from "we just want tolerance" to "we just want acceptance" and was well on its way to "we demand you celebrate us bigot!" some writers jumped on that bandwagon.
I'm sure in some Canopian circles troons and Catgirls are just normal, but even in the most liberal of states there are some moral standards and I doubt they just suddenly allowed those things, especially in a setting like BT where a faction's characterization don't change. It would be like the Mariks not infighting or the Dracs giving up being a top down military state in favor of democratization or a writer suddenly putting out a historical sidebar where the Clans gave up on genetics for a few years in the 2900s before getting back on the bandwagon. It just doesn't fit with what came before it.
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The thing with volleyball isn't as dumb as it sounds. I mean, look up Noisiel and the Mech Olympic games held there.
Granted, that's a hell of a way to dent your ride...
Granted, that's a hell of a way to dent your ride...
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Everyone sees that artwork and goes "catgirls are real!" but then completely ignore it's caption
It is 100% a fetish thing, they exist because of Inner Sphere degenerates who go to the seediest planet in a liberal state to indulge their kinks. There's a weird sort of irony that the people who fetishise being a woman see artwork of people changing their body to appeal to degenerates and go "so heckin cute uwu".
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I see it as similar to the Hogwarts Legacy controversy. You have some people concerned about the actions of the company, employees, rights holders, etc. But the vast majority are concerned about the product. In this case, plastic miniatures of mechs and other vehicles. They’ll pay for the product with knowledge of the controversy or not because their focus is solely on the product.
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Normies don't give a shit on what happens behind the scenes.
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You're absolutely right. I suspect if you asked, 9 out of 10 people who backed the KS about Pardoe or Bishop Steiner the most they would say is "oh, the writers?" and not have a clue about the firing or the politics behind the writers or any of the rest of it. They're only concerned with getting their hands on something to buy, which is a perfectly valid take for them to have. It's no different than when Loren Coleman got caught taking money from CGL to pay for his house and most of the fanbase just didn't care so long as new books and minis were being produced. Or that Camille Cline wasn't the nicest person online (or in person) or that Warner Doles ended up a convicted sex offender or any of a hundred other online dramas or behind the scenes goings on.
Not everybody lives online or even cares about the politics of companies. And there are some that make things into a bigger deal than they really are, something I'm probably guilty of on a regular basis when it comes to BT writers politics seeping into products. And as a proud member of the Naysayer Brigade from back in the day of the FASA closing and the first bits of info about MWDA and ClickyTech, I know my knee probably jerked more than it had to.
I do try to be more mellow these days, and I'm sure I see conspiracies everywhere when it comes to politics, but I read BattleTech to escape the politics of the day, not to be reminded of them.
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Before everybody gets too doomy about BattleTech getting normiefied, remember this isn't the first time shit like this has happened. The franchise was ruined by Wizkids, and it survived. Even if Catalyst decides to go full woke with the new content... well, they have to keep moving the story forward, which means assholes with gigabytes of FASA-era PDFs like me get to still play the game as it was in the 90s. Just like we did in the 00s.
Do I want this shit to happen again? Absolutely not. But if it does, I'm prepared. This game was at its finest between 3025 and 3062, anyway. If they fuck up in the 3200s, all I'm going to do is point and laugh, just like I do with any other franchise attempting to cater to braindead "modern audiences" at the expense of their core demographics. Hell, we're probably lucky that it's only happening now, when backlash against woke bullshit is starting to build up. If they had gotten their hands on BT eight years ago, we'd be talking about transgender First Princes and the Draconis Combine would be ruled by a pansexual wheelchair-bound black lady.
Do I want this shit to happen again? Absolutely not. But if it does, I'm prepared. This game was at its finest between 3025 and 3062, anyway. If they fuck up in the 3200s, all I'm going to do is point and laugh, just like I do with any other franchise attempting to cater to braindead "modern audiences" at the expense of their core demographics. Hell, we're probably lucky that it's only happening now, when backlash against woke bullshit is starting to build up. If they had gotten their hands on BT eight years ago, we'd be talking about transgender First Princes and the Draconis Combine would be ruled by a pansexual wheelchair-bound black lady.
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How did you get your hands on the first draft of my No Clan Invasion 3050-3100 sourcebook?
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Yeah BT has had ups and downs over its 30+ years. Stop being a faggot about normies. We just got 4 new people into our weekly game group, one stayed in and he's kinda a lame duck on his views on cars and he's a fed rat fan boy (due to lack of lore understanding I don't mind any fan boys) but he's deff into the game now put a few 100 into minis and nice guy. He's also a 40k refugee.
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Is there an anti-aircraft vehicle based around a PPC? I've been playing mechwarrior 5 again and realized that those are my helicopter swatters of choice. A platform with an ER PPC and a couple of AC/2s could work well in an integrated air defense battery.