Better Call Saul

[Internet War Criminal]

Interestingly, I think the real watershed moment for Walt is when he learns that his cancer is in remission by 80% and he has much longer to live. You can tell he's almost... disappointed, in a sense. He completely fucks up that paper dispensing machine, rips open his water tank and replaces it with a new model, starts to redo the floor of his whole house... He had made peace with dying, he had made sure that his family had what it needed, and now, at this point, doesn't know what to do anymore. All of the shit he put himself, and his family, through, was it for nothing?

And then, end of S02E10 we see the transformation from telling the methhead 'You're buying the wrong matches' to see them in a camper and telling them 'Stay out of my territory'. That's probably the real moment he "breaks bad".

Which thematically makes sense, since the next episode is when Combo gets ventilated, and the ante is upped because we're now faced with drug dealers who use children as murderers etc... so the whole overton window is shifted way far from anything Walt has done or talked about doing until this point.

One thing that never changes, however, with every watch or rewatch:

Just how fucking cringe it is when Skylar sings 'Happy Birthday' to Ted.

 

[AnOminous]

One thing that never changes, however, with every watch or rewatch:

Just how fucking cringe it is when Skylar sings 'Happy Birthday' to Ted.

Your skeleton tries to cringe its way entirely out of your body.

"I fucked Ted" still has to be one of the best lines of the show though.

 

[UnKillFill]

Your skeleton tries to cringe its way entirely out of your body.

"I fucked Ted" still has to be one of the best lines of the show though.

Y..you passed the bar?

 

[anti SJW]

 

[Internet War Criminal]

Jane's death: Walter did nothing wrong.

The whole reason why he came back is because he wanted to help Jesse go to rehab, because he didn't want to give up on him, and he didn't want him to overdose and die. He's about to save Jane, too, but then he realizes that if he intervenes, if she doesn't die... he's killing Jesse. So he steps back and does nothing. She dies, and it clearly hurts him that she did. However, at this point it's either her or Jesse, and by all account, he was right, too.

It had nothing to do with the blackmail or jane being a cunt, or the money, etc... It was purely to save Jesse.

So after the first two seasons, I don't think Walt has done anything unredeemable at this point. Even some of the shitty things he's done, he's done because he was trying to make sure his family had money to make it.


It's interesting, because when I first did a rewatch of Breaking Bad, after knowing how the show ended, it colored my view of Walter from the beginning and I saw him as a lot more ominous and evil to begin with, although none of the reasons why had yet to happen. Now, after six seasons of BCS, El Camino and some distance with that review, he comes off a lot more genuine and in over his head while trying to do right by his family... which is probably how it felt like watching the show in the first place.

 

[UnKillFill]

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2/10, not enough breakfast.

 

[George Floyd Sneed]

So after the first two seasons, I don't think Walt has done anything unredeemable at this point. Even some of the shitty things he's done, he's done because he was trying to make sure his family had money to make it.

I think the moment Walt truly becomes irredeemable is when Gale Boetticher gets killed. Gale’s a libertarian vegan dweeb who didn’t really have any aspirations to be a drug kingpin. They probably could have scared him off just as easy but instead Jesse shoots him at Walt’s urging.

 

[TheHarbinger]

I think the moment Walt truly becomes irredeemable is when Gale Boetticher gets killed. Gale’s a libertarian vegan dweeb who didn’t really have any aspirations to be a drug kingpin. They probably could have scared him off just as easy but instead Jesse shoots him at Walt’s urging.

BCS changes that though. Gale is far deeper into Gus's operation that we knew in BB. Gus is literally personally visiting him and friends with him. Gus trusts Gale to help design his entire meth factory and purchases a laundromat in accordance with Gale's design. Gale is basically second in command over Gus's meth operation until Walter comes along. Gale is way more than just some naive goofy liberal fag who wants to make drugs for his hippie friends. Guy is a seasoned cartel associate and operative with a strong relationship with a cartel head.

Gale is also the one who pushes for Gus to hire Walt. Partially out of business sense but also because he is fascinated by Heisenberg's meth formula. Gus visits Gale at his apartment and tells Gale that Walter will no longer be around after one more cook. Gale understands the hint. Walt will not be dying of cancer but instead Gus will kill him. Gale accepts and says he will learn the meth formula as quickly as possible. So Gale was ready to let Walter die.

 

[BetterFuckChuck]

Suggestion for Saul Gone: when the police watched Saul's youtube videos we should've seen the screen and seen that the color had gone. That would've been good character arc foreshadowing

 

[Internet War Criminal]

End of Season 2/beginning of Season 3:

Skylar is really quick to pull that 'Divorce' card. Especially after the shameful flirting she did with Ted. That's where she turns into a cunt imo. Yes, Walt lied a lot, but instead of confronting him, she waits for him to be able to be on his own pretending everything is alright, and then immediately just drop kicks him to the curb.

She's completely unwilling to listen to him explain why he lied, and she knows that it's not cheating AND there is cash. And yet, because her ego is bruised or some shit, she doesn't agree to even listen to him. That's not the behavior of a genuine loving spouse who realized their significant other was hiding something. This is the behavior of someone who was already on the way out.

As far as Walt goes, he's absolutely fucked by what happened to the flight. That's why he wants to burn the cash, before he realizes that it would mean all this, and those deaths, were for nothing.

When he talks in the gym, that's not him being an asshole, that's not him being self-centered about how he's the real victim. It's a man who has lost almost everything, is holding by a tiny shred of sanity, and he has to convince himself that it was not his fault, that nothing he did lead to those people dying, that all of those things were just... life. That there was nothing that he, personally, could have done differently.

 

[BetterFuckChuck]

Every video title: Breaking Bad is about gamergate [video essay] - blurry shot of walter and jesse walking away from eachother as the thumbnail

can you tell im getting annoyed by my recommends?

 

[AnOminous]

I think the moment Walt truly becomes irredeemable is when Gale Boetticher gets killed. Gale’s a libertarian vegan dweeb who didn’t really have any aspirations to be a drug kingpin. They probably could have scared him off just as easy but instead Jesse shoots him at Walt’s urging.

As much as I liked Gale, he did exactly what Walt did in completely discounting the human cost of the industry he was in as just a cost of doing business. He thought he could operate in that world without getting his hands dirty. This was naive of him in the extreme, but also immoral in the same way as Walt was immoral. His problem was entering a world with someone like Walt in it, who was acting according to the same moral calculus but without the delusion that he could do it without getting blood on his hands.

Skylar is really quick to pull that 'Divorce' card. Especially after the shameful flirting she did with Ted. That's where she turns into a cunt imo. Yes, Walt lied a lot, but instead of confronting him, she waits for him to be able to be on his own pretending everything is alright, and then immediately just drop kicks him to the curb.

She should have divorced him years before the show even started. She didn't marry the fuckup that he was. The very first episode underscored what a cunt she was with serving that shitty bacon substitute on a man's 50th birthday, and then she was smoking while pregnant. The list of her sins are innumerable, fucking Ted among them. Then giving Walt's money to Ted really put the cherry on that particular sundae of cuckoldry.

That said by the end she was just trying to keep her kids alive and that's a lot more sympathetic than some blabbering asshole going on about empire.

When he talks in the gym, that's not him being an asshole, that's not him being self-centered about how he's the real victim. It's a man who has lost almost everything, is holding by a tiny shred of sanity, and he has to convince himself that it was not his fault, that nothing he did lead to those people dying, that all of those things were just... life. That there was nothing that he, personally, could have done differently.

But that shit is a lie. He certainly had no way of knowing all that would happen in advance but obviously someone was going to die for what he did. It was also hilariously inept and maybe the worst motivational speech I've ever seen. I always viewed that as a comic scene because it was such a ridiculous conclusion to probably the silliest story arc in the entire Heisenverse.

 

[Kharash]

I've also been rewatching BB and one thing I noticed is there's quite a few sex scenes and even nudity in it. BCS is pretty prudish in comparison.
I don't really mind as I feel it rarely adds anything to a show but it's amusing that the prequel about the sleaziest character in BB plays it so safe.

 

[Internet War Criminal]

She should have divorced him years before the show even started. She didn't marry the fuckup that he was. The very first episode underscored what a cunt she was with serving that shitty bacon substitute on a man's 50th birthday, and then she was smoking while pregnant. The list of her sins are innumerable, fucking Ted among them. Then giving Walt's money to Ted really put the cherry on that particular sundae of cuckoldry.

A thousand percent. There's a reason she became universally despised.

But that shit is a lie. He certainly had no way of knowing all that would happen in advance but obviously someone was going to die for what he did. It was also hilariously inept and maybe the worst motivational speech I've ever seen. I always viewed that as a comic scene because it was such a ridiculous conclusion to probably the silliest story arc in the entire Heisenverse.

Of course. At the end of the day, he was responsible, but in a way that he couldn't have predicted, or changed anything. It was one of those unknown unknown that led to something dramatic.

A man throws a banana peel on a street corner. Someone accidentally slips on it. Driver is distracted by the person, slipping in the corner of his eye, turns his head, runs through the intersection, kills a family of four.

Is the man who threw the banana peel on the ground responsible for the death? Yes, but in a way that he couldn't have possibly predicted. That's why in general we legally differentiate between accidents and negligence.

The ending of One Minute is still some of the most explosive, crazy action I've ever seen on a tv show. I remember watching it the first time and being absolutely fucking floored. Really holds up to this day. It's one of those scenes I wish I could see with fresh eyes today.

 

[CWCissey]

So I was watching Kevin And Perry Go Large tonight. I didn't realise that one of Lydia's early roles involved riding Harry Enfield and getting fingered by Rhys Ifans.

Also this.

 

[Internet War Criminal]

Started episode S03E10, not thinking about anything in particular, and then, I heard a sound for half a second that filled me with dread.

"bzzzzzz"

Aw fuck. It's The Fly. The one blotch on an otherwise perfect season. Holy shit I'm gonna have to fast forward throughout most of it. For some reason I thought it would be next season.

Fuck you, Ryan Johnson.

 

[Seventh Star]

Now, after six seasons of BCS, El Camino and some distance with that review, he comes off a lot more genuine and in over his head while trying to do right by his family... which is probably how it felt like watching the show in the first place.

With each viewing his lies get cringier for sure, and it does annoy me how he treats Jesse like shit. However, his dislike for Grey Matter is even more understandable when I rewatched the library scene. Elliott literally claimed the discoveries Walt had made as his, or at least it was claimed as such. There's no way I would have accepted Gretchen and Elliott's cash either in his situation.

 

[AnOminous]

The ending of One Minute is still some of the most explosive, crazy action I've ever seen on a tv show. I remember watching it the first time and being absolutely fucking floored. Really holds up to this day. It's one of those scenes I wish I could see with fresh eyes today.

And even that had the ridiculousness that Hank would be dead if that idiot hadn't decided he just had to use that badass axe instead of just, you know, shooting Hank.

 

[Internet War Criminal]

With each viewing his lies get cringier for sure,

Dude just can't lie, it's horrible. It's pretty good acting, really.

and it does annoy me how he treats Jesse like shit.

Half the time it's deserved, though. Jesse keeps on doing stupid shit, fucking up, and if it wasn't for Walt intervening many times (getting the RV crushed, covering for him for stealing from Gus, etc...) he would have caused them to get either arrested or just straight up killed.

I mean when is Jesse not fucking up. Tuco is about to snort the tainted meth, but he has to add he throw chili p in it, he manages to get his gun taken from him by the methhead who had robbed his friend, etc.. He's constantly fucking him, and as much as Walt treats him like shit sometimes/often he's also genuinely caring for him, doesn't want him to get the cash while he's on heroin, said covering earlier, killing the two drug dealers... He seems to show even more affection for Jesse than he does his retard son by times.

And even that had the ridiculousness that Hank would be dead if that idiot hadn't decided he just had to use that badass axe instead of just, you know, shooting Hank.

It does make sense, though. Hank killed their cousin, and now he just crushed his brother, possibly to death. 'Muy facile' and picking up an ax is definitely some cartel shit they'd do, the dumb part was not kicking his gun away

 

[UnKillFill]

Hank was literally too stupid to live. He *knew* that Walt was somehow responsible for killing like a dozen criminals in custody in a matter of a few minutes, and yet he didn't even once consider asking for backup while going out to bring him in.

I get that Hank couldn't have possibly guessed that Walt had a group of neo-nazis on speed dial, but he should have at least predicted that Walt had *somebody* who would be backing him up.
If he had been going out for Gus, the same damn thing would have happened. I know that Gus would have just sent other people to take care of it if it was him, but that only makes Hank look even dumber- He couldn't possibly know how egotistical Walt had become by the end of BB that Walt would be stupid enough to go out into the middle of the desert by himself.