Biting the hand that feeds - A brief history of the Kiwi Farms and why A&T is the redheaded stepchild of the site.

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Either I'm old or the kids these days don't understand you don't say shit online that you don't wan to go back to the FBI/DHS or any other LEO. Death threats are pointless on the internet, the sheer amount of effort to hunt folks down to do them harm is beyond 99.999999% of this and most user online user forums.

I firmly believe that any level of common sense is required to post here and Internet Time Outs need to be a thing as people who can't moderate themselves need someone to moderate life for them, they need to get banned(temp to perm).


As for anyone who thinks they can run this type of site and not have to deal with a flood of lawsuits, spurious emails from lolcows, DDOS attacks, and a brazillion other issues stemming from Anonymous Entitled Assholes on the Internet. Good fucking luck. Take the following sites as examples of what hoops you need to go through to 'survive' online: stormfront, kiwifarms, infowars, encyclopedia dramatic, 8CHAN, etc. Go research all their history and see what they've done.

Trying to host this type of site on discord? HAHAHAHAHA you dumb fucks will get FBI visits inside of week as soon as your shit channels gets leaked. AND IT ALWAYS GETS LEAKED.

Darkweb? Gimme a break, no. TOR? Been compromised for years. Self-hosting? You got thousands to throw at a site a month? Got a lawyer on retainer? Get one. Ask them how much they cost.

Face it, ole Dear Feeder has to go through allot to keep this shitshow running and it's a nightmare and he does it because he wants to. Once he decides to fuck off and say "This shit isn't worth it" the site comes down and we all scatter like poo in a fan.

Bless all your hearts if you can do it.
 
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My sole contribution to this amazing thread:

Y'know, I keep seeing a lot of claims how A&N and Happenings are metastasizing like cancers and taking over the rest of the website, eventually only to "subvert" and kill it, yet I never see any evidence to that effect. You would think people in a site that's partly based on archiving everything would have the presence of mind to at least screencap and/or provide links to the A&N and Happenings Politisperg Complex "infecting" otherwise "pure" apolitical threads and boards, but yet the evidence never seems to be forthright.

In my experience, every thread and subforum is mostly its own thing. Political discussions are generally relegated to primarily political topics, or for topics that will almost inevitably touch upon politics for one reason or another regardless.

If someone is fedposting/glowposting or making terroristic threats, report them (or if you're staff, ban them). If the feds come knocking, the staff can give their IP address to them. This is a material solution to a material problem. Anything beyond this is just disingenuous whining about immaterial abstractions. The people who want to fedpost, would fedpost regardless of wherever they are in the forums anyway, and would fedpost regardless of even which forum they are in, so it's not some A&N/Happenings thing either.
 
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The politispergs
by Joshua Moon
Everything is discussed openly in kiwifarms and every kiwi claims the right to have an opinion on any and all questions. One is Catholic, the other Protestant, one an employee, the other an employer, a capitalist, a socialist, a democrat, an aristocrat. There is nothing dishonorable about choosing one side or the other of a question. Discussions happen in public and where matters are unclear or confused one settles it by argument and counter argument. But there is one problem that is not discussed publicly, one that it is delicate even to mention: the politispergsish question. It is taboo in our republic.

The politispergs is immunized against all dangers: one may call him a scoundrel, parasite, swindler, profiteer, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But call him a politispergs and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: “I’ve been found out.”

One cannot defend himself against the politispergs. He attacks with lightning speed from his position of safety and uses his abilities to crush any attempt at defense.

Quickly he turns the attacker’s charges back on him and the attacker becomes the liar, the troublemaker, the terrorist. Nothing could be more mistaken than to defend oneself. That is just what the politispergs wants. He can invent a new lie every day for the enemy to respond to, and the result is that the enemy spends so much time defending himself that he has no time to do what the politispergs really fears: to attack. The accused has become the accuser, and loudly he shoves the accuser into the dock. So it always was in the past when a person or a movement fought the politispergs. That is what would happen to us as well were we not fully aware of his nature, and if we lacked the courage to draw the following radical conclusions:

1. One cannot fight the politispergs by positive means. He is a negative, and this negative must be erased from the kiwi system or he will forever corrupt it.
2. One cannot discuss the politispergsish question with the politispergss. One can hardly prove to a person that one has the duty to render him harmless.
3. One cannot allow the politispergs the same means one would give an honest opponent, for he is no honorable opponent. He will use generosity and nobility only to trap his enemy.
4. The politispergs has nothing to say about kiwi questions. He is a foreigner, an alien, who only enjoys the rights of a guest, rights that he always abuses.
5. The so-called religious morality of the politispergss is no morality at all, rather an encouragement to betrayal. Therefore, they have no claim to protection from the state.
6. The politispergs is not smarter than we are, rather only cleverer and craftier. His system cannot be defeated economically — he follows entirely different moral principles than we do. It can only be broken through political means.
7. A politispergs cannot insult a kiwi. politispergsish slanders are but badges of honor for a kiwi opponent of the politispergss.
8. The more a kiwi person or a kiwi movement opposes the politispergs, the more valuable it is. If someone is attacked by the politispergss, that is a sure sign of his virtue. He who is not persecuted by the politispergss, or who is praised by them, is useless and dangerous.
9. The politispergs evaluates kiwi questions from the politispergsish standpoint. As a result, the opposite of what he says must be true.
10. One must either affirm or reject anti-spergery. He who defends the politispergss harms his own people. One can only be a politispergsish lackey or a politispergsish opponent. Opposing the politispergss is a matter of personal hygiene.
These principles give the anti-politispergsish movement a chance of success. Only such a movement will be taken seriously by the politispergss, only such a movement will be feared by them.

The fact that he shouts and complains about such a movement therefore is only a sign that it is right. We are therefore delighted that we are constantly attacked in the politispergsish gazettes. They may shout about terror. We answer with Mussolini’s familiar words: “Terror? Never! It is social hygiene. We take these individuals out of circulation just as a doctor does to a bacterium.
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Iwasamwillbe said:
My sole contribution to this amazing thread:

Y'know, I keep seeing a lot of claims how A&N and Happenings are metastasizing like cancers and taking over the rest of the website, eventually only to "subvert" and kill it, yet I never see any evidence to that effect. You would think people in a site that's partly based on archiving everything would have the presence of mind to at least screencap and/or provide links to the A&N and Happenings Politisperg Complex "infecting" otherwise "pure" apolitical threads and boards, but yet the evidence never seems to be forthright.

In my experience, every thread and subforum is mostly its own thing. Political discussions are generally relegated to primarily political topics, or for topics that will almost inevitably touch upon politics for one reason or another regardless.

If someone is fedposting/glowposting or making terroristic threats, report them (or if you're staff, ban them). If the feds come knocking, the staff can give their IP address to them. This is a material solution to a material problem. Anything beyond this is just disingenuous whining about immaterial abstractions. The people who want to fedpost, would fedpost regardless of wherever they are in the forums anyway, and would fedpost regardless of even which forum they are in, so it's not some A&N/Happenings thing either.
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At one point there was a site wide announcement about the yaniv board because these people kept coming into it to post about how yaniv is being protected by the jewish world order.

babadook said:
LOL cry more about your safespace
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You people are the ones who are demanding a safe space to cry about niggers and jews and to plan out terrorist attacks.
 
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KingCoelacanth said:
Nice fan fiction, friendo.
I'm surprised how the A&N detractors are the ones who got the feds involved in the first place, yet desperately try to put the blame on everyone but themselves.
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The night sig made his shitpost there was people talking about how they need to riot and start fires, then start killing people when it didnt work and it was met with mass approval.
 
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I like posting in in politisperg section, but as time goes on and more people seem to believe the shit I thought we were just joking about :/ prob should just stick to the cow threads I spose. Not saying some good discussion haven’t taken place there, but fuck literal death threats. Come on niggers you have more sense than that I hoped...
 
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Satan said:
The night sig made his shitpost there was people talking about how they need to riot and start fires, then start killing people when it didnt work and it was met with mass approval.
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Post the "We need an Oklahoma Bombing every year until they're scared of us" screencap you posted elsewhere.
 
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glass_houses said:
Is there anywhere on the internet that is free of the cancer that is murkin politics? Or the insanity that infests it?
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Surprisingly, Cataclysm Dark Days Ahead. Even the troons involved with the game's community mostly stay on task and help contribute more than making an ass of themselves. The zombie game where you can put spaghetti in your pocket, make shopping cart deathmobiles, and become a meth addicted furry somehow attracts productive spergs.

There was some mild drama between the developer of a popular tileset and the more sensitive members of the community over drunkposts. No one seems to care if you continue using his tileset, though.
 
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It's HK-47 said:
All of the other glow-posters got reported and their content was deleted. SIG's never got reported because everyone knew he was just shitposting and didn't mean it; I never even noticed the post or I would have nuked it just to avoid the hassle. There's a palpable sense of irony somewhere in there, like some kind of Boy Who Cried Shitpost.
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Really makes you :thinking: .
 
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