Biting the hand that feeds - A brief history of the Kiwi Farms and why A&T is the redheaded stepchild of the site.

[potato in mah painus]

"
I don't yet know how I want to word this change, but we can start here:
- If you post violent threats, you're gone.
- If you support posting violent threats, you're gone.
- If you think this site has been compromised by a government entity, I encourage you to leave.
"

Realize this Null, on top of the occasional retard this will also protect your site from false flagging as well. I have seen offshoot chans and image boards shut down because people would take advantage of the anything goes rules, and spam threats or CP and then report the image board to the host. Do whatever means necessary to protect the site, the fact you haven't banhammered all of us that hang out in AnH has shown more restraint then some of the other places I have been over the years.

 

[eternal dog mongler]

At this point I've probably seen about every Mad at the Internet and despite the fact Null probably hates me cause I'm very pro-loli,

Christ we're talking about the FBI visiting because people are making death threats towards politicians, don't add another evil on us.

 

[Lame Entropy]

I know this is serious but I do find the idea of some glowie schmuck having to read through the sea of autism to find credible threats amusing.

 

[Love Machine]

For my nigga SIG.

 

[CptnSnshn]

BUT IF THE SALT MINE CLOSES DOWN HOW WILL I SCREAM AT PEOPLE FOR HAVING DIFFERING OPINONS TO ME WHILE ALSO DECRYING ANYONE ELSE WHO DOES THE SAME?

 

[Immortal Technique]

Here we go again. Ya gotta laugh at the reddit and PULL niggers that despise A&N because they don't say the things they want them to say in the threads and wanting it shutdown. They hate is so much they read it excessively. They were forced to click it; just no way they could avoid it. Simple trick: I don't like seeing puppies get raped and killed, so I don't click on sadist zoophile threads. Everyone smart already knows, as he has stated many times, Null will comply with U.S. laws--not because he wants to, but because he has to or face legal consequences for shitposters.

People should be more upset that glowniggers are paid to read these threads and we're out here doing it for free.

 

[drain]

You know guys, before everything went to shit and every place online wasn't a political fuckfest, communities like Kiwi Farms and other niche forums were actually quite peaceful places that managed to stay afloat and out of drama most of time. There were usual autistic slapfights but nothing too much.

Since 2016, being online means you'll inevitably come across some sort of politard who WILL try to suck you into their meaningless political slapfight just because idiots now think their opinions means shit. Mainstream media is saying now that it is ''cool'' to have an opinion and shout it like a retard no matter what. I blame mainly Twitter and Facebook for this, tbh.

And since everyone has a Very Important Thing To Say Online lately, they will do anything to stand their ground and hurt who they think wronged them. So expect even more autistic shit for the next years.

 

[TaimuRadiu]

Hey faggots under US law threatening someone physically is a crime. Saying "The President of the USA is an asshole" is one thing, talking about how you're going to kill him (even if you're saying "in Minecraft") counts as a threat.

 

[Secret Asshole]

I posted this in the thread where Sig got banned, but I'll update it here.

America has the most freeing speech laws in the world. But as with everything, there are limits. And the limits make sense. If you don't agree, you're a stupid faggot who can fuck off. Now, for everyone who wants to stay:

Sig violated the Supreme Court decision which replaced the 'Clear and Present Danger' standard with the 'Imminent lawless action' standard. What is the difference? The imminent threat standard is more specific. Sig violated the imminent threat standard by:

1) He posted he was going to do a violent act at a specific time
2) He posted he was going to do a violent act against a specific group of people
3) He posted he was going to do a violent act against a specific event
4) He posted he was going to do a violent act against a group of people which have already had multiple threats against them

All those meet the criteria for an imminent lawless action. You're a fucking retard for hating Null over this. Sig broke one of the most lenient free speech laws on the Earth, yet drooling retards are criticizing Null over it. Sig couldn't have posted what he did on any fucking country on the face of the planet without getting in trouble.

Honestly, anyone who has a problem with this really can just fuck off. They're just too fucking retarded to post here and are a liability. Any mongolids going "HURR HURURTUR CUCK CUCK CUCK" just go back to fucking 8chan and /pol/ faggot.

 

[Phil Ken Sebben]

The Orchards should be a, pardon the term, "safe space" to laugh at spastics, troons and cows. Let's not devolve into making threats or getting too involved in things like politics. That's just gay and unrealistic.

Leave stuff like that to 4chan.

 

[Fools Idol]

It's got fuck all to do with freezepeach.

A lot of these r/The_Donald, Chan etc... retards have only been active on the Internet for the last ten years or so, power tripping fags swinging the ban hammer around like it's going out of fashion or being a total dick for no reason is very alien to them. The owner is basically God he LETS you use his site, it's not a democracy it's a fucking dictatorship and if you don't like it then you can call him a cock sucker and fuck off.

Something Awful is a perfect example. Lowtax is a complete cuck faggot, but the site is (was) his. If he wanted to fuck the site into the ground and ban all the idiots still using it, then that is (was) his prerogative. But all the mongs that use that site bitched and complained and tried to force him out like they're owed something. Resetera is another example of a site that is shit scared of it's own userbase.

Null is not your friend, he doesn't owe you anything and you don't owe him anything. He's not here to protect you or mollycoddle you when your feelings are hurt. He is just another fag that has carved out a piece of the Internet for himself and he lets you use it. Don't expect him to just take you fucking with him lying down.

 

[Happy Fish]

Free speech = hang X politician, send a message, NIGGERS....

Okay.

Free speech is protecting the speech that is unfavorable. It is important, though, to understand the difference between the rules of a website under these ideals and the rules of a government under these ideals. This isn't an issue of free speech. This is an issue of don't mug Null over SIGSEGV getting in trouble because it isn't his fucking fault, and it isn't reasonable to ask him to be in trouble as well however you feel. Or how I feel for that matter. It has nothing to do with free speech or politics when all is said and done.

 

[beautiful person]

and they are never, NEVER grateful to you for providing this sanctuary

I think this is the biggest thing. A lot of the newer, politically-fixated users are also a lot of the same people telling Null that 230 doesn't matter because Trump do no wrong and fuck Twitter, when Twitter is the exact kind of e-behemoth with the financial power to stave off the kind of shit that will destroy the Farms. They don't care to listen or learn because ultimately this place to them is a disposable vessel for their specific kind of autism.

Why are retards fed-posting their gay edgy fantasies and getting pissed off when Uncle Sam comes knocking?

Because they're retards.

 

[Fromtheblackdepths]

I always knew SIG's departure from this site would end sort of like this. That or he would pull off his mask to reveal he was actually a fed.

 

[Rainbow Frog Army]

Isn't that just history, though? I mean, Bob constantly uses historical references in order to sound smart despite knowing jack shit about the subject in question, and being able to point out why he's wrong re: the Renaissance while not being able to do the same thing for the assassination of Franz Ferdinand seems kind of arbitrary. Maybe a ban on politics from the last 30-40 years might do the trick? Otherwise you'd risk banning discussion of anything vaguely historical on the basis that all of history has been shaped by politics in some way.

That bans discussion of history within the last 30-40 years, though, and some of these cows' knowledge of even what happened an hour ago to them is iffy.

Maybe ban off-topic discussion of politics, with the people in the thread getting to call it when lolcow politics is relevant and it's being hard to tell if somebody's contributing to better understanding of lolcow political herd behavior or just is a stray political lolcow.

 

[drain]

Any mongolids going "HURR HURURTUR CUCK CUCK CUCK" just go back to fucking 8chan and /pol/ faggot.

This type of people would actually be the ones who would get a thread here back in the day. Today they just run free, stinking and shitting up the place.

 

[salvuserit]

FBI is worse than CIA. Those fucking niggers can't tell jokes from truth that's the reason why the country is the way it is. Stupid faggots.

 

[The Last Stand]

Free speech is protecting the speech that is unfavorable. It is important, though, to understand the difference between the rules of a website under these ideals and the rules of a government under these ideals. This isn't an issue of free speech. This is an issue of don't mug Null over SIGSEGV getting in trouble because it isn't his fucking fault, and it isn't reasonable to ask him to be in trouble as well however you feel. Or how I feel for that matter. It has nothing to do with free speech or politics when all is said and done.

When you follow through of what you said with actions of violence, fraud, etc, it's not free speech. The line between those two is getting more and more thin BECAUSE of people like that.

 

[Rainbow Frog Army]

The FBI doesn't care.

Legally in order to be charged with assault the threat has to be direct and actionable. That's true.

But also the FBI likes to prevent crimes before they happen, so wildly frothing about how the [string of words that will attract the wrong sort of attention] is gonna attract the wrong sort of attention.

If you paid attention, I was providing a definition for people who needed to know how to not accidentally get charged with assault/making threats.

The Farms is the type of place that's at least got bots monitoring it. If you don't even want to attract the wrong sort of attention--to have the dim bots' ears perk--then just don't put together strings that'll trigger them. Thanks for providing an example for me to retract.

 

[Happy Fish]

When you follow through of what you said with actions of violence, fraud, etc, it's not free speech. The line between those two is getting more and more thin BECAUSE of people like that.

What did I say exactly that you are referring to? I think I get what you are saying, but I mean you can't just expect only one group of people to conform to a completely unreasonable situation because they are generally more lawful, which, from where I am standing, is exactly what is going on in the world politically.. Moreover, we are talking about an infamous shitposter who didn't even mean what he said. The question is then where does it leave this website and the person that owns it? That has nothing to do with free speech or politics. It has to do with get off poor Null's nuts.