Bob Chipman / Robert Lewis Chipman / MovieBob / Game OverThinker - "Coastal Elite Thinker" who wants conservatives, Christians and manual workers eradicated. Universally ignorant; cannot tell reality from sci-fi. Sore loser with short fuse. Odious Disney shill. Tranny chaser and general creep. Fat and diabetic.

I will admit I actually agree with Robert's words, even though we all know he violates the spirit of them all the time.

Yeah, the funny thing is, in principle, I somewhat agree more with Robert than I would with stuff like what that Geek and Gamers guy says, or the Heels vs Babyface.

Look, I'm not a fan of being a dismissive cunt, and if I thought the last Star Wars movies sucked, don't give me the "it's just a childrens movies about Space Wizards", fuck off with the smug act.

Said that, I think it is still important to keep perspective, If you genuinely thinks movies are ruined because they now have a bunch of autistics lesbians on capeshit movies, then you gotta watch other stuff. We live in a golden age of accessibility, it ain't hard to find good new movies out there, not to mention discover some overlooked gems of the past.

And look, I'm not a complete retard, I get there is a reason on why guys like Mauler and Nerderotic just talk about capeshit stuff, it is what pays the bills, nothing wrong to give their audience what they want, and right now the fun thing to do is to make fun of Disney. The word "grift" gets passed around too much these days, but I don't think it quites aplies here, and if so, I mean, I don't mind the hustle, if you make your bread by bitching about Captain Marvel, vaya con Dios, you make that cash.

But that does't mean I agree or like when a guy starts screaming in his bedroom filled with action figures about how Disney doesn't respect the character of Luke Skywalker. Personally, this is my main grievance about the whole thing, the amount of reverence and importance people give to this pop-culture trash, because my general reaction is just "fine, I'll just watch something else".

So I somewhat agree with Robert when he says "these things don't really matter". Problem with Robert is though, he is only dismissive when it suits him and whatever political bullshit is doing the rounds on social media or when the numbers and public reaction don't quite back his position.

Just take the way he talks about the new Captain Marvel flick, which seems to be heading for a flop, now he has a 1001 reasons on why that doesn't matter, why it isn't making the same numbers, and why just the chuds care about Box Office, while being insufferably smug about it "why do you care about it, are you a Disney stock holder? :smug: ".

But I remember when the first Captain Marvel did about a billion back when the MCU was hot shit, yeah, Robert was shouting that over the roof tops to own the chuds. Way to talk with both sides of the mouth Robert, just be carefull to not injure yourself doing the gymnastics.
 
So I somewhat agree with Robert when he says "these things don't really matter".
I somewhat disagree, Politics is downriver of Culture. The stories we tell do have an impact. now will The Marvels matter long term? Probably not because it is terrible and everyone will forget it exists, However Black Hipop Culture has 100% ruined generations of Black people, arguably on purpose. I think the Simpsons also did a massive amount of Damage to Nuclear Power as a concept just by hammering people repeatedly with the stereotype of Mr Burns and the Three Eyed fish.
 
It's hilarious that he retweeted this after years of using the box office of Marvel movies as "proof" of how "important" they are.
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Said that, I think it is still important to keep perspective, If you genuinely thinks movies are ruined because they now have a bunch of autistics lesbians on capeshit movies, then you gotta watch other stuff. We live in a golden age of accessibility, it ain't hard to find good new movies out there, not to mention discover some overlooked gems of the past.
As ever with these things there's "reality" and then there's the "meme version" of things. For example, I remember in one of his MATI episodes (from this year), NULL talks about a discussion he had with YMS and how the latter said he didn't like Critical Drinker for various things, like never reviewing foreign films.

This video is a year old and has 1.3 mil views.

Yes even Chris Gore talked about it.

It becomes a kind of feedback cycle where when they do talk about non-capeshit movies, nobody reacts or replies to it so nobody notices it, thus only encouraging the interpretation that capeshit is all they talk about...

I mean for the month of October, MauLer and his crew did a watch along and discussion of the ENTIRE Saw franchise.

And look, I'm not a complete retard, I get there is a reason on why guys like Mauler and Nerderotic just talk about capeshit stuff, it is what pays the bills, nothing wrong to give their audience what they want, and right now the fun thing to do is to make fun of Disney. The word "grift" gets passed around too much these days, but I don't think it quites aplies here, and if so, I mean, I don't mind the hustle, if you make your bread by bitching about Captain Marvel, vaya con Dios, you make that cash.

But that does't mean I agree or like when a guy starts screaming in his bedroom filled with action figures about how Disney doesn't respect the character of Luke Skywalker. Personally, this is my main grievance about the whole thing, the amount of reverence and importance people give to this pop-culture trash, because my general reaction is just "fine, I'll just watch something else".
I mean... that's kind of like saying, "oh who cares if one of my oldest and closest friends gets murdered? I'll go hang out with other people?"

Yeah it's not an exact analogy but there's a reason the saying goes, "you can't make new old friends." A property that has impacted you when you were young and been there through your formative years can't just be replaced on a whim. You can find new loves but they're not going to be "20-year" loves off the bat.

And yeah, "it's all capeshit" or "space wizards for children" but what else do people have? Do they have some ancient faith stretching back centuries they can rely on for consistency in life and guidance through chaos? Some - but for the wider populace that's been taken away. What about a nation they can be a part of? History? Culture itself?

Oh wait, this is the culture of the people and what are they going to fall back on now that this has been taken away? As a friend of mine once said: humans have levels of communication just like there's levels of programming. From Assembly Language on up to Lisp and beyond. For humans culture is a part of the advance, highest level of communication to pass really complex ideas between each other in as fast a manner as possible. It's easier to say "boy who cried wolf" than to recite the entire story each and every time you want someone to grasp the idea. So wrecking culture has consequences because the less people can communicate, the more likely violence becomes a solution to problems.
 
It's hilarious that he retweeted this after years of using the box office of Marvel movies as "proof" of how "important" they are.
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I think we can all name at least one kino movie that came out and didn't do well at the box office because it wasn't promoted worth a fuck, it debuted in like ten theaters, or it was just too dense for the average 105 IQ moviegoer to really get their heads around. Using that argument for your little indie darling that wasn't meant to appeal to general audiences anyway is fine, but for fuck's sake this is Marvel we're talking about. The franchise that intentionally washed out any subtlety or depth to appeal to the widest swath of people it possibly could. When you're doing everything you possibly can to appease the middle and you still can't get butts in seats, that's a very ill omen for you.

I also believe Disney had a very skewed perspective on just how popular Captain Marvel actually is since they did basically everything they could to place their thumbs on the scales. They shoehorned her into Endgame/Infinity War at the last minute and released her movie right off the heels of the post-Endgame hype, when you could have released Abortion Man in theaters and it still would have turned a profit just as long as Iron Man or the Hulk made a 3 second cameo. With superhero fatigue now really starting to set in, I think Disney's going to be in for a rude awakening when they realize most people don't really know who the fuck Captain Marvel is and grrl power will only carry them so far.
 
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Playing around with AI art and I put this together with the following prompt for EFAP, "morbidly obese bald Magneto with a goatee and wearing sunglasses yelling into his iphone"

This is as close as I got.
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Here's another one:
morbidly obese bald loser with a goatee and wearing sunglasses and dressed like Super Mario yelling into his iphone in his basement
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Are you guys feeding moviebob's picture into the prompts? If not it's absolutely fantastic that the AI gets it so close to moviebob's likeness it's almost uncanny. And yet it still gives him six fingers on his hand.
LOL who did they have working on the AI? Andrew Dobson?
 
On Friday Night Tights they made fun of Blob's attack on Alan Ng since they have Chris Gore on a lot from Film Threat, it's at 2:54:00. It's about 2 minutes, they make fun of him being fat, his bad movie opinions, and his mountain dew chicken and compare him to Boogie:

MovieBob is an angry sack of shit, but the comparison to Boogie is uncalled for in my opinion. Bob hasn't dumped $200k on prostitutes.
 
MovieBob is an angry sack of shit, but the comparison to Boogie is uncalled for in my opinion. Bob hasn't dumped $200k on prostitutes.
Only because he couldn't afford to.

If prostitution was legal in Mass, would we live in a world where Bob was more or less of an insufferable cunt? On one hand, he'd finally get laid and might be less pissed off at the world, plus he'd tweet less as he spends his hours playing with tits instead. On the other, he would genuinely believe these women like him, much like the Hooters waitresses he tips to be nice to him, and would probably use that as another excuse to be shitty to people because he's so much better than them.

Of course this assumes that Bob could actually afford even a ten minute session.
 
As a friend of mine once said: humans have levels of communication just like there's levels of programming. From Assembly Language on up to Lisp and beyond. For humans culture is a part of the advance, highest level of communication to pass really complex ideas between each other in as fast a manner as possible... So wrecking culture has consequences because the less people can communicate, the more likely violence becomes a solution to problems.
This is the intellectual side of culure; there is also an emotional side. Much as we love to throw the term "manchildten" around, and while fanboyish adorations for consoomables is embarrassing at the age of 40, it remains true that Star Wars, Batman, and Mario have bestowed fond memories for many children, and the evocations of these is like a talisman to a carefree, unsullied time. That's why people have such an outsized reaction when their favourite consoom are repurposed for newfangled political ideologies.
 
Only because he couldn't afford to.

If prostitution was legal in Mass, would we live in a world where Bob was more or less of an insufferable cunt? On one hand, he'd finally get laid and might be less pissed off at the world, plus he'd tweet less as he spends his hours playing with tits instead. On the other, he would genuinely believe these women like him, much like the Hooters waitresses he tips to be nice to him, and would probably use that as another excuse to be shitty to people because he's so much better than them.

Of course this assumes that Bob could actually afford even a ten minute session.

Bob can't afford whores, legal or otherwise (though there are some truly hideous illegal hookers out there even Bob could afford, I doubt he knows where to find them). But I venture that legal whores would present a bigger obstacle, because legal ones tend to have a rigorous screening process and can turn a customer down for any reason, including being a sweat-soaked giant canned ham.
 
This is the intellectual side of culure; there is also an emotional side. Much as we love to throw the term "manchildten" around, and while fanboyish adorations for consoomables is embarrassing at the age of 40, it remains true that Star Wars, Batman, and Mario have bestowed fond memories for many children, and the evocations of these is like a talisman to a carefree, unsullied time. That's why people have such an outsized reaction when their favourite consoom are repurposed for newfangled political ideologies.
To borrow from a greentext that I can't fucking find, the idea here is to make sure no culture survives between generations, and what little culture does survive is easily malleable to whatever message they need to push at the moment. Much of this work happens naturally as culture inevitably evolves, but every now and again you come across something so cherished and beloved that you can't just call it racist and problematic and make it quietly go away. In instances such as this, the strategy becomes to pour as much bullshit content into the gap so the weight of the originals becomes watered down. You can show your kids the original trilogy all you want, the magic is going to be diminished when they're shoving a new film into your kids' faces where Jay'quaza the Chaotic Neutral Jedi/Sith hybrid is fighting against an army of cloned Anakin Skywalkers, and their final duel involves force throwing planets at each other. Lest you think I'm being schizophrenic, think back to how much of the sequel trilogy is "this classic Star Wars concept but BIGGER and TOUGHER". Death Star? Hell nah nigga that shit's corny as hell we have an entire DEATH PLANET that EATS SUNS and DESTROYS FIVE PLANETS AT ONCE. Luke Skywalker takes 25 minutes of grimacing to move his lightsaber 5 feet out of lightly packed snow? Surprise surprise bigots, Rey can now handily beat trained force users in 1x1 lightsaber combat because she sometimes used a quarterstaff to defend herself on her home planet.

This is why journoscum clings so The Last Jedi so hard, because it unapologetically laid out their game plan in plain English and people fucking rejected it. You can't get much more on the nose than having a character say the line "Let the past die, kill it if you have to".
 
To borrow from a greentext that I can't fucking find, the idea here is to make sure no culture survives between generations, and what little culture does survive is easily malleable to whatever message they need to push at the moment. Much of this work happens naturally as culture inevitably evolves, but every now and again you come across something so cherished and beloved that you can't just call it racist and problematic and make it quietly go away.
This. And i think @Positron was hitting on it too. I may not have a scientific study to back me up but I think just looking at something like oral traditions which were all humans had for thousands and thousands of years. As a young meatbag a human would have grown up listening to stories that told them who they were and where they were from and what they needed to be when they got older. Then when they grew up and had tiny meatbags of their own, they would repeat these stories to them and in the process each generation was linked back to those that came before and forward to those coming after them.

As civilization has developed, the stories and preserving methods may have changed, but not the process nor the need people have to fit themselves within larger tapestry that makes sense of the world. The younger the generation, the less they have of these old things to fill that need. That's why some of these reactions are so visceral. Because even if they don't realize it, these folk have already lost so much, they're losing what remaining threads they have left.

I finally found the RPG pundit post that helped crystalize all this for me.
Something happened to me last night, I had a kind of realization. It suddenly hit me WHY that is.​
It's because Harry Potter is literally all they collectively know.​
Schools don't teach history anymore.​
They no longer teach the canon of Western literature.​
They certainly don't teach the Bible.​
So Millennials literally have no points of common reference. It's not that they all just want to look like complete morons by infantilizing their political metaphor to the level of a children's book, it's that they have no other choice.​
They're literally bereft of the allegorical language of the West. I'm sure there's some Harry Potter monster analogy I could use to explain it to them, how it's like monsters have come along and literally stolen their ability to speak, their common language, and their birthright.​
They can no longer express or understand the set of references we have from our past, our most prized stories, and our culture's religious quotations. They can't do Shakespeare, Milton, or even Mark Twain because they've never learned any of these while they were being taught Indonesian multicultural dancing and given participation awards. They don't know what happened at Hastings in 1066, at Runnymede in 1215, or even at Sarajevo in 28th June 1914, because they were being given feminist diversity training instead of learning the history of their civilization. They certainly don't know what "the least of these" refers to or where it comes from, as a recent event with a White House staffer proved.​
They've lost the entire allegorical language of the West. They might speak English, but they don't speak Western. To them, it's like a foreign, dead, alien language. A set of stories they do not know.​
And that, more than anything else, has led me to fear for the first time that our civilization is truly doomed. People who don't have symbols aren't really human. The leftist Millennials, though really almost all millennials (save those very few who got exceptional educations from non-private sources), have no symbolic language worth having, just the tribal grunts of a child's fairy tale.​
 
You're making the wildly optimistic assumption Bob lasts for a ten minute session, including foreplay
I assume Bob getting a ten minute session WOULD be him spending $200k on a prostitute.

You know he'd have her cosplay as Peach. (And then cancel the session because she got something wrong with the outfit.) No refunds.
 
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