Bob Chipman / Robert Lewis Chipman / MovieBob / Game OverThinker - "Coastal Elite Thinker" who wants conservatives, Christians and manual workers eradicated. Universally ignorant; cannot tell reality from sci-fi. Sore loser with short fuse. Odious Disney shill. Tranny chaser and general creep. Fat and diabetic.

[Ralph Barnhardt]

11Jan#22
Bobby learns from watching foreign movies that sometimes a translator has got to be a traitor.

Brother Alpha's example is stupid. Such jokes belongs to highly cultural-bound texts that it is untranslatable, be it by human or machine. This is like trying to translate Joyce's Finnegeans Wake to Japanese, or Apollinaire to German. It can be "done" but nobody will be happy with the results.

Vent time.

What an embarrassing way to force yourself into a conversation and to attempt to prove yourself as some kind of expert.

"I wasn't even in the double digits of age in the 80's. I watched a lot of Godzilla back then and anime from the 60's AND 70's before I was even 10 BUSTER! I was in the trenches before you were swimming in your dad's ballsack so let me tell you what's what!"

This is like saying I went to New York City in 1999 so I have a better understanding of 9/11 than most. Reminder that Bob, by his own admission in his shitty memoir, does not even remember where his Nintendo Entertainment System, the grey box that defined 30+ years of his life, came from. There is no possible way that he was even remotely cognizant of any translation issues or drama until his short stint in community college and was introduced to the internet in the 2000's. He did not have some sort of great awakening in the 90's when Dragon Ball Z was bought out by Funimation and all of the VAs changed like he alludes to. The Woody Allen bit is so, to reuse this term, pants shitting stupid to beggars belief. What the great cinephile, pop culture critic, Wikipedia looker upper Bob "The Moviebob" Chipman is referring to is a 1966 movie called What's Up, Tiger Lilly. It was Woody Allen's first film except it's not actually his. What Woody did was take a 1965 Japanese spy movie, ripped out the original soundtrack, completely redubbed the movie, gave it a completely new story that was very silly, and included The Lovin Spoonful because the movie would not be what it is without it's theme Pow. I've watched the movie. I love the movie. I own the movie. I struggle to think of a single point in that entire movie where they do a single Engrish joke like greeting someone with "Herro!". But even if I were to grant Bob's premise that there was it would still have nothing to do with translation issues BECAUSE THERE WAS NO TRANSLATION DONE FOR TIGER LILLY. There wasn't even any commentary on a nonexistent issue at the time of it's making. Woody Allen went the lazy way of making a movie by taking someone else's completed work, changing enough of it to make it different, and slapping his name on it. It is mind boggling trying to decode Bob's thought process sometimes and why he inserts things he thinks makes him sound smarter/better.

BUT WAIT! THERE'S MORE!

Immediately after he makes the Tiger Lilly statement he follows up with "Well even if translators don't do their jobs, they still worked really hard guise so they deserve a living wage". Reminder that this was his ONE argument as for why people should be for the writers during their strike this past year and it it still retarded here. I don't remember if it was someone in the writers' strike thread or on twitter but they made the comparison that this kind of mentality is like paying a mechanic who doesn't fix your car, believes that it is their right to make your car run worse, and laugh at you while they do it. Woody Allen making a completely different film out of an already existing film is one thing. Jaime Marchi throwing in GamerGate references, taking on the patriarchy, and inserting her own politics into a show about big tittied, lesbian dragons maids or autistic time travelers is a completely different thing to the point that they're not even remotely comparable.

And to finish it up, this simpleton handwaves away criticism of his precious translators by hanging a lampshade of "Well you're never get a 1-1 translation anyways and anyone who complains is a Nazi". There is nothing I can add to this. He is just silly and fat and ooooooooooooooooooooold.

Bob was 2 in 1982, and yet he will claim to be part of the same generation that was 13 in 1982. No wonder Star Wars made no impression on him, by the time he was old enough the movies were long out of theaters.

But he wasn't 2 in 1982. He wasn't fucking 2. HE WAS FUCKING ONE! HOW IN THE ABSOLUTE HELL DOES HE FUCK UP HIS OWN AGE?! HE WAS BORN FEBURARY 20 1981! THERE WAS A WHOLE MONTH AND A HALF OF 1982 WHERE HE WASN'T EVEN A YEAR OLD HOW IS HE SO BAD AT EVERYTHING?!!?

 

[WelperHelper99]

Immediately after he makes the Tiger Lilly statement he follows up with "Well even if translators don't do their jobs, they still worked really hard guise so they deserve a living wage". Reminder that this was his ONE argument as for why people should be for the writers during their strike this past year and it it still retarded here. I don't remember if it was someone in the writers' strike thread or on twitter but they made the comparison that this kind of mentality is like paying a mechanic who doesn't fix your car, believes that it is their right to make your car run worse, and laugh at you while they do it. Woody Allen making a completely different film out of an already existing film is one thing. Jaime Marchi throwing in GamerGate references, taking on the patriarchy, and inserting her own politics into a show about big tittied, lesbian dragons maids or autistic time travelers is a completely different thing to the point that they're not even remotely comparable.

And to finish it up, this simpleton handwaves away criticism of his precious translators by hanging a lampshade of "Well you're never get a 1-1 translation anyways and anyone who complains is a Nazi". There is nothing I can add to this. He is just silly and fat and ooooooooooooooooooooold

Bob doesn't want correct translations because Japan doesn't comply with his world view. That simple. Making a bastardized product of the original is fine because it's a 'improvement' in his eyes. And it owns the chuds

 

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the only internet guy i know is my boy avgn. i dont know who the fuck is this mattpatt asshole or why his retirement would matter

 

[Mr Processor]

And to finish it up, this simpleton handwaves away criticism of his precious translators by hanging a lampshade of "Well you're never get a 1-1 translation anyways and anyone who complains is a Nazi". There is nothing I can add to this. He is just silly and fat and ooooooooooooooooooooold.

I believe Bob likes the silly, goofy translations that some anime had when he was a kid. For the exact same reason he prefers the campy version of Batman. He has childish tastes and likes things for children, but even worse, unlike some children who like more serious children's entertainment he doesn't like that either. I think with the activist localization of more modern stuff, it's not so much that he likes it as that he doesn't really watch modern anime so he's happy if they own the CHUDs by butchering the translations. Really the Bob formula is if he doesn't personally like any random thing and it gets screwed up for people who do like it, that makes him happy. That really goes for anything, especially entertainment related. It's why he enjoyed the Covid lockdowns so much. Since he has no reason to go outside, doesn't date and doesn't have a physical job to go to he enjoyed other people getting shafted. He just wishes there had been more of it.

 

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Vent time.

you have to remember that robert chipman is a pop culture talking head for necesitty. he is legit retarded, had parents who gave up on him early so he was raised by the tv. dont believe me? just watch his analysis of the producers. thats legit the only video of bobbo retardo i have ever watched and was amazed by 1 his shitty yahtzee impersonation and 2 his mongoloid analysis. robert chipman is a legit imbecil who brain process only manage to conjure what if X but in I. he is a retarded, ugly sack of worthless shit

 

[REGENDarySumanai]

Do your job correctly or don't do it at all. The fact that fansubs are more accurate than official translation is a condemnation.

 

[Mr Processor]

Bob confirmed as retarded child in just one tweet.

 

[An Sionnach Seang]

They bitch at Elons rockets blowing up- but no one dies. It's literally testing. So that they don't blow up Bob. Unlike a sub 100 iq pilot with hundreds of passengers crashing into the tarmac because the computer didn't coddle them the entire way down

it's a good thing Kai Tak airport in Hong Kong no longer exists; it had of the world's most notoriously difficult approaches, which involved getting extremely close to the city (to the point where you could see into people's apartments) and doing a last-second right turn so tight it couldn't be done on instruments alone
imagine the carnage if commercial airlines let diversity hires try something like that

 

[King Dead]

11Jan#09

I watched a video recently on the Marvelization of cinema, and part of it involved the host comparing the LotR trilogy movies to Amazon Prime™ Video™'s The Lord of the Rings™: The Rings of Power™, explaining why the former worked and the latter didn't. He specifically stated that he went back and rewatched the trilogy just to make sure that he wasn't just being blinded by nostalgia, and he confirmed that no, they really are exemplary films, primarily because they were created by a passionate team that gave it their all, and not just as a cynical push for more content for viewers to consoom.

The original Star Wars trilogy still holds up decades later because they're great examples of moviemaking. Hell, even the prequels are okay due to the single creative voice driving them, Lucas pouring everything into the story he wanted to tell. Disney's slop has already aged like milk and has been largely forgotten by the public at large, their idiocy turning a once-lucrative brand into just another source of content for streaming.

In short: Bob, go fuck yourself. Nostalgia isn't always the answer.

11Jan#10
More about that Paki directrix of the next Rey film.

Bobby might have a point: a lot of "documentaries" are pure works of fiction anyway.

The burden of proof lies on the one making the initial argument, which in this case would be Obaid-Chinoy stating that it's time for a female director for Star Wars (namely, her). While I have no doubt that the technical skills can mostly translate from documentary to fiction filmmaking, there's the question of whether it's a good idea to throw someone with little experience in the deep end of a tentpole blockbuster production, especially when it's been years since the last movie and you're trying to get the whole series back on track. Considering the MCU's recent productions, I'd argue that's not a great idea.

11Jan#18

I doubt it. Real humans go on strike, demand DEI quotas, and shit on the audience. Seriously, kill all real humans.

There's also the question of whether you can find the right voice for the project you're working on, and whether they'd be willing to actually do it. The easiest example I can think of, funnily, would be porn. A lot of potential VAs are a bit hesitant to put their voice on a porn animation or game, so you'd probably have to pay more for them to take the position and take longer combing through potential actors, likely settling for whatever you can find. Or you could just use AI, get the exact voice you want, and avoid that hassle altogether.

I do think you should attempt to find a real VA first, but if it's not working out, then AI is a perfectly acceptable substitute.

11Jan#19

Who decides who deserves to get paid? Please help me I'm not a Thinker like you Bobby.

An excellent question, but I think Bobby's second question is more telling of his stance on this matter. "What to do about unjust levels of ACCESS to tools and materials" - he's basically saying that he doesn't want the plebs to be able to use AI to make their projects a reality, and only trusts his corporate overlords to handle them, much as they've been abusing copyright to their advantage for decades. Remember, any time he accuses others of bootlicking, it's just another example of projection.

11Jan#22
Bobby learns from watching foreign movies that sometimes a translator has got to be a traitor.

Brother Alpha's example is stupid. Such jokes belongs to highly cultural-bound texts that it is untranslatable, be it by human or machine. This is like trying to translate Joyce's Finnegeans Wake to Japanese, or Apollinaire to German. It can be "done" but nobody will be happy with the results.

I can't do a reply to this better than @Ralph Barnhardt, but I'll add that anyone who's been a regular viewer of anime and manga is well aware of untranslatable jokes and idioms. That's why translator's notes exist, to help you understand the context that you'd miss by not being a native speaker. Someone complaining about the work involved in that is just a shitty translator; your job is to get as much of the meaning across to your audience as possible, not to replace it with out-of-place localizations or hamfisted political bitching.

 

[JayHarrison]

Trump did a miraculous thing that other people have spent 54 years on yet failed.

God only knows what other miracles awaits us if we give him another 4 years.

Moviebob loves abortion, which is literal eugenics.

Overturning Roe v. Wade was a decision overturning nationwide abortion, leaving the decisions to terminate pregnancies--and, sadly, the babies involved--on a state-by-state basis.

No wonder Moviebob consider Trump to be a racist Nazi. Trump's SCOTUS nominees ruined Roe v. Wade, thus tainting abortion/eugenics on American soil. You call those days on which Moviebob hates the ruining of eugenics "weekdays".

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Thinkers...

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...got the memo that says Affirmative Action is a myth?

When a plane piloted by a proud DEI Black person crashes, there can only be one reason: the collective weight of white privilege of the passengers.

Or a sudden... "malfunction".

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Bobby thinks MatPat is special.

Special-ed? Maybe.

Youtube personalities more famous than he have retired, but only his retirement got people talking.

MatPat hiring Moviebob was the obliteration of all credibility MatPat had remaining.

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1982 - 1981 = 1. Again, Moviebob can't math.

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More about that Paki directrix of the next Rey film.

Bobby might have a point: a lot of "documentaries" are pure works of fiction anyway.

Example of fiction disguised as documentary: Al Gore's An Inconvenient Truth (2006).

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Star Wars Theory has MauLer and The Critical Drinker as guests.

"If you host a racist and a misogynist on your channel", you should fire the dope who invited Moviebob to your program.

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Some people are "grossed out" by Superior Future.

Variety article. I propose the next standard of AI to be called the Carlin Test -- if the purported AI tells you a joke, will you laugh?

I don't disagree: If Carlin ever got wind of what technology would do with his voice, he... would... be... FURIOUS.

A journal's job is to report, not to be a "mouthpiece" of some group.

Positron's wording perfectly summarized why most print newspapers--the New York Times, the Washington Post, et.al.--don't qualify as journalism. They're not calling balls and strikes, they're cheerleaders for the Democratic Party.

This Nicholas Jennings just passed the Carlin Test: only humans can be so ludicrously stupid.

Moviebob has repeatedly passed the Carlin Test with flying colors.

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I doubt it. Real humans go on strike, demand DEI quotas, and shit on the audience. Seriously, kill all real humans.

With this recent talk about artificial intelligence voice-overs replacing flesh-and-bone humans, there's a part of me that would love to see a return to the days of voice synthesis--specifically in the style of Atari's old arcade games (as heard in games like Gauntlet and RoadBlasters, et.al.)

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Never listen to Moviebob about morals.

Who decides who deserves to get paid? Please help me I'm not a Thinker...

™

...like you Bobby.

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If it means a localization more loyal to the source material without injecting completely unnecessary politics (such as one line from the anime Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid*)... then, yes, I'll support AI-based translations.

Why is it "fucked up" for translators to lose their jobs, but not "fucked up" for coal miners to lose theirs?

You wanna know what's really fucked up? Moviebob still having a job and an X-Twitter account despite repeatedly spewing obvious racism, sexism, calls for violence against innocents, calls for genocide, advocacy for bioterrorism...

 

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Bob confirmed as retarded child in just one tweet.

when i was a kid i tought the jedys were jedies, because thats what the movie told me. and the light saber were sabers made of light who cut the bad guys. because i wasnt a fucking mongo

 

[REGENDarySumanai]

Why is it "fucked up" for translators to lose their jobs, but not "fucked up" for coal miners to lose theirs?

Blue collar workers are the butt of jokes from people like Bob. Blue collar workers adapted to robotics, but people like Bob can't adjust to AI. They must cripple it for their safety.

 

[Gaear Grimsrud]

I think Bob hates Critical Drinker because he's far more successful pretending to be a stupid drunken lout, than Bob, who is an authentic stupid drunken lout.

 

[Ralph Barnhardt]

I can't do a reply to this better than @Ralph Barnhardt, but I'll add that anyone who's been a regular viewer of anime and manga is well aware of untranslatable jokes and idioms. That's why translator's notes exist, to help you understand the context that you'd miss by not being a native speaker. Someone complaining about the work involved in that is just a shitty translator; your job is to get as much of the meaning across to your audience as possible, not to replace it with out-of-place localizations or hamfisted political bitching.

We actually talked about something similar a year or two ago in this or the old thread. I think the context was about the Sumerian dog joke. We have our own jokes and references that become a mystery to anyone who has no first hand knowledge of. There are American jokes that Americans will not get if they are 20 and not 30. Case and point.

If you know what this is you know what it is. If you do not know what it is I cannot explain it to you and you will never find it funny. There is too much history for me to explain why 7 lines set up in a quadrant that is a minimalist representation of a woman suffering a miscarriage' is funny.

This one fits a bit better because it actually deals with translation but anyone who doesn't know will just see and hear a robot voice read badly translated lines. You could even show them the music video

and they still won't get it because they weren't there before the word "meme" existed in our current day to day life.

To cut to the chase, trying to get true emotion and feeling across is hard even if you're working with native medium for native speakers. Going to an entirely different language and culture is a horse of different color. Hell, wasn't it Samurai Pizza Cats where most of the jokes had to be rewritten for English because the big bad was a stand in for a local politician? Now imagine that but instead they just make the big bad Trump or Biden. How dated and insufferable would that be if you're on the other side of the aisle or 2 months after whichever is out of office?

 

[Boston Brand]

So with Matt Pat retiring, is this fat fuck finally out of a job?

 

[Toxinophile]

"Like everyone recognizes this [...] It's like the bad boys 2 moment 'Shit just got real.' " ~ Bob
"If Youtubers were a Justice League, we would all be fucked. This is Superman stepping up saying, 'Okay guys, get serious. '" ~ Robert Chipman

Will upload a local Archive once my internet unfucks itself

 

[Bolo_the_Second]

So with Matt Pat retiring, is this fat fuck finally out of a job?

A bit of a strech to say his free-lance gig with the Theorists channels is a "Job", he gets co-write credits on a video every now and then, and most of the time is to wikipedia Marvel capeshit easter egg stuff because MatPat has never even opened a comic book on his his entire life.

Robert will keep getting "work" from the Theorists channels because he is cheap and desperate for validation. Same way Big animation studios pay scraps to out of college twerps for the privilege of having their name on the credits of any dullard show getting crapped out.

Robert's real "job" is the patreon, this is where he gets his income, and that is it.

"Like everyone recognizes this [...] It's like the bad boys 2 moment 'Shit just got real.' " ~ Bob
"If Youtubers were a Justice League, we would all be fucked. This is Superman stepping up saying, 'Okay guys, get serious. '" ~ Robert Chipman

Will upload a local Archive once my internet unfucks itself

And after all this time, and Robert hasn't learned a fucking thing. Of course the fatass doesn't waste time to call MatPat a friend when I don't think I ever heard the guy talk about him, if not from some quick passage, and this insistence Robert has to call mere aquantices "friends" only gives credance to the weird vibe people get from him.

And them more glazing, on how everybody on the theorists channels are amazing talents, blah blah blah, who knew Robert would be so keen on the corpo talk shit when it comes from people who throw him a bone every other month.

But who knows, maybe they are, indeed, besties with Robert. Robert is such a great guy that the people over the "Second Wind" rushed to get back... oh, never mind...

Also, I forgot, but Jesus Christ Robert has the eloquence of a baboon. Every two or three words "uuhhh" and "ahhhn" "soo uhmm" "yeahh, hummm", come the fuck on Robert, oration should be one of your most basic skill set for your "profession".

 

[Ralph Barnhardt]

I recommend everyone check out this MatPat video. Bob does it from his mother's sewing room. Bob does it all with his face showing. Bob uses the same stock, old timey guy reaction images he's been using for a decade.

and it is almost incomprehensible. The first two minutes is just him struggling to explain just how important MatPat is and how no body was really sure if he was retiring until Mat actually said he was. The amount of stumbling and stuttering is impressive. The mic also sounds like the same bit crushed one he used for his videos a decade ago so it's all from the web cam he's using. He couldn't even get his good mic setup going for Mat's dick sucking. After all, MatPat is, and I'm quoting here, "a serious person worth taking seriously as I hope to make that clear momentarily I mean that as a a genuine compliment... a genuine compliment." Uh-Mazing.

"If Youtubers were a Justice League, we would all be fucked. This is Superman stepping up saying, 'Okay guys, get serious. '" ~ Robert Chipman

I watched this whole thing just because of this line. Completely worth it.

And after all this time, and Robert hasn't learned a fucking thing. Of course the fatass doesn't waste time to call MatPat a friend when I don't think I ever heard the guy talk about him, if not from some quick passage, and this insistence Robert has to call mere aquantices "friends" only gives credance to the weird vibe people get from him.

 

[Mola Ram]

Jesus fuck, his head looks like a moldy canned ham.

 

[Ralph Barnhardt]

Jesus fuck, his head looks like a moldy canned ham.

He also looks like he's balding on one side of his head and I don't know how that's possible.