Bob Chipman / Robert Lewis Chipman / MovieBob / Game OverThinker - "Coastal Elite Thinker" who wants conservatives, Christians and manual workers eradicated. Universally ignorant; cannot tell reality from sci-fi. Sore loser with short fuse. Odious Disney shill. Tranny chaser and general creep. Fat and diabetic.

[King Dead]

17Feb#09
Someone discovers that Paul Verhoeven doesn't do things by the book. Bobby and Arkle are outraged for some reason.

The other issue with Starship Troopers (beyond what @Mr Processor said about it ruining any serious adaptation attempts forever) is that Verhoeven's satirical portrayal of the human government and military really only made them look absolutely correct, not to mention looking cool while doing so. The bugs were viciously slaughtering any humans they came across and there was no reasoning to be done with them, I say kill 'em all! You could use that as a "haha dumb audience don't get satire hurr" gotcha, but personally, I find that it misses the mark.

There's also the fact that the original script actually had nothing to do with the novel, but when they found out they could get the rights to something with a recognizable name, they just changed around a couple character names and claimed it was "based on" it.

17Feb#14

Republicans don't like Romney. He's always been a Democrat-lite, so if he actually switched parties, it would be the most predictable thing. As always, Bob acts like a prognosticator over the easiest shit.

17Feb#15
Self-driving cars.

Bob, people have been wondering where their jet packs were since before you were born. Lose me with this "Golden Age of PROMISES" shit. The fact that he includes fucking Nintendo in his list of the wonders of technology really shows how broken his brain is.

And those techbros you bitch about are the sole reason you actually have any amount of notoriety. Without them, you'd have no place to post your inane simplistic movie reviews because Lord knows you'd never actually hold a movie critic's job, nor would you have anywhere to scream into the void about everything that pisses you off so you'd have to settle for bitching at the bar to whoever would listen (until you got thrown out again). And even if all the resources that went into the development of the internet had been redirected into jet packs and moon bases and you got that future you EARNED, you'd never get to use them because you're too fucking fat.

 

[REGENDarySumanai]

And those techbros you bitch about are the sole reason you actually have any amount of notoriety

He would call the department of defense and CERN tech bros because they were responsible for the Internet and world wide web, respectively.

 

[Mr Processor]

The other issue with Starship Troopers (beyond what @Mr Processor said about it ruining any serious adaptation attempts forever) is that Verhoeven's satirical portrayal of the human government and military really only made them look absolutely correct, not to mention looking cool while doing so. The bugs were viciously slaughtering any humans they came across and there was no reasoning to be done with them, I say kill 'em all! You could use that as a "haha dumb audience don't get satire hurr" gotcha, but personally, I find that it misses the mark.

I don't think the so-called satire in Starship Troopers is as simple as twitter lefties would have you believe. The humans are charismatic and likeable. They're also tough as nails and people tend to admire that. (Sort of like everyone loves the drill sergeant in Full Metal Jacket.) The bugs are hideous monsters that suck out people's brains. I think we're all supposed to cheer when Doogie Howser says that the brain bug is afraid and that that's what Verhoeven actually intended.

I think it's easy if you compare it to Robocop. Robocop does the same thing with OCP who are not really the villains of the movie. The old man and that one black Smithers guy are likeable characters. OCP creates cool technology. The bad corporate guys get their comeuppance, and we don't tend to blame the old man or OCP for their behavior (after all Robocop is also part of OCP). Robocop 2, which was not Verhoeven, strays a little bit from the first movie's formula by making the old man more explicitly villainous. He's still likeable though.

So what was Verhoeven trying to say with these movies? Well, you'd have to ask him. But whatever he was trying to say, I think he just made fun science fiction movies with some unsettling undertones but where the audience can easily decide who they like and who they don't. Anyway, just reminiscing about these old movies makes me nostalgic. Big, fun, R-Rated blockbusters made with adults in mind. Whatever happened to them?

 

[Flexo]

So what was Verhoeven trying to say with these movies? Well, you'd have to ask him. But whatever he was trying to say, I think he just made fun science fiction movies with some unsettling undertones but where the audience can easily decide who they like and who they don't. Anyway, just reminiscing about these old movies makes me nostalgic. Big, fun, R-Rated blockbusters made with adults in mind. Whatever happened to them?

At the risk of derailing, know the phrase, "the left can't meme"? Well... I think a parallel to it is "the left can't satire" (or parody but we can quibble over definitions).

I mean remember when Velma came out and it was so bad, folks thought it was a right-wing attempt to parody and mock liberals? Or how religious folks are depicted in... any Stephen King work? Even though it's pretty much not like any religious person anybody has ever encountered? (remember the Christian from the Mist that was all about human sacrifice?)

I think Veerhoeven INTENDED satire, but he's bad at it - hence why his stuff often backfires.

 

[Gaear Grimsrud]

Wasn't Bob talking about how Madame Web looks good because he thinks it's a throwback to sexy 90's movies, or something?

Well, I've seen the movie, and there's absolutely nothing sexy in it. It's the same flavor of general sexlessness that most of these movies have.

 

[TowinKarz]

I think Veerhoeven INTENDED satire, but he's bad at it - hence why his stuff often backfires.

I agree ...... going back to Troopers, the scene where the one recruit in boot camp gets impaled through the hand when he asks why learning to fight with knives is important if they can just push a button and launch a nuke? With the sadistic drill instructor telling him "How you gonna launch a nuke if your hand is disabled?" or somesuch?

I think he intended everyone to put the back of their palms against their foreheads and collapse onto the nearest fainting couch from the sheer brutality of that.

Instead, it became the most-liked scene amongst my circle of friends, probably others too, many of whom were in the military and thought the whole sequence was hilarious, and that the DI's logic was perfectly solid.

I too think he wanted it to be a condemnation of militarism, but, he was so ham-fisted with the implementation that the over-the-top depiction of it became humorous and ultimately glamorous.

And, being in a time when he couldn't go on social media and tell the fans they were stupid and wrong? He had to just sit there as the praise came in for his "gritty realism" and "grim pragmatism" and say "yes, yes, I meant that all along!" while he stewed inside that we were all too dumb to "get it" , the REAL message was supposed to be "The Army SUCKS!" .

Same with Robobcop, I think he wanted to satirize American consumerism and scold a populace who'll elect tough-on-crime leaders even if they're corrupt as Hell because they'd rather see criminals filled full of holes than face the fact their car only gets 9 mpg because the company who built it also owns all the oil wells.....

He wanted you to think "Boy, I really screw myself when I trust corporations and their propaganda!"

But instead? He created a folk hero for people sick of high crime and ineffective civic leadership in the real world, much like today.

 

[IAmNotAlpharius]

Wasn't Bob talking about how Madame Web looks good because he thinks it's a throwback to sexy 90's movies, or something?

Well, I've seen the movie, and there's absolutely nothing sexy in it. It's the same flavor of general sexlessness that most of these movies have.

It’s funny how the actresses choose to wear sexy clothes when they’re on the red carpet and promoting the film. Maybe that’s what he’s thinking about.

 

[Imposteroak]

I agree ...... going back to Troopers, the scene where the one recruit in boot camp gets impaled through the hand when he asks why learning to fight with knives is important if they can just push a button and launch a nuke? With the sadistic drill instructor telling him "How you gonna launch a nuke if your hand is disabled?" or somesuch?

God it's been a while since I read the novel, but IIRC there is a huge part in it talking about how putting actual soldiers on the ground isn't really necessary and the rationale for doing so anyway was some sorta psychological thing. Again its been a while and the novel is dense, at least it was for a younger imposter.

Idk what the directors original intentions were, but I still think the movie is fun, and even revisiting it as an adult the heavy handed satire always felt intentional. The original novel had a lot going on and you could have probably made a few movies out of individual parts of it if you wanted. I think a direct adaptation would be difficult without making it a tv series and even then it might not hold the general audiences attention.

 

[TowinKarz]

God it's been a while since I read the novel, but IIRC there is a huge part in it talking about how putting actual soldiers on the ground isn't really necessary and the rationale for doing so anyway was some sorta psychological thing. Again its been a while and the novel is dense, at least it was for a younger imposter.

Idk what the directors original intentions were, but I still think the movie is fun, and even revisiting it as an adult the heavy handed satire always felt intentional. The original novel had a lot going on and you could have probably made a few movies out of individual parts of it if you wanted. I think a direct adaptation would be difficult without making it a tv series and even then it might not hold the general audiences attention.

It helps immensely that it was made during an era where CGI was a lot better and used a lot more sparingly and WITH actual practical effects and full-scale props to sell it. The scene where the bugs overrun the MI's outpost is still believable.

Modern CGI doesn't even hold up on first viewing due to its rushed and sloppy rendering AND being used as the focus for both scene and story.

 

[Mr Processor]

I agree ...... going back to Troopers, the scene where the one recruit in boot camp gets impaled through the hand when he asks why learning to fight with knives is important if they can just push a button and launch a nuke? With the sadistic drill instructor telling him "How you gonna launch a nuke if your hand is disabled?" or somesuch?

I love that man.

Or how religious folks are depicted in... any Stephen King work? Even though it's pretty much not like any religious person anybody has ever encountered? (remember the Christian from the Mist that was all about human sacrifice?)

That character has shown up in Japanese homages to The Mist, she certainly made an impression. I always liked Carrie White's Mom from Carrie as an example of that type.

 

[Mola Ram]

At the risk of derailing, know the phrase, "the left can't meme"? Well... I think a parallel to it is "the left can't satire" (or parody but we can quibble over definitions).

I mean remember when Velma came out and it was so bad, folks thought it was a right-wing attempt to parody and mock liberals? Or how religious folks are depicted in... any Stephen King work? Even though it's pretty much not like any religious person anybody has ever encountered? (remember the Christian from the Mist that was all about human sacrifice?)

I think Veerhoeven INTENDED satire, but he's bad at it - hence why his stuff often backfires.

Somewhat OT, but I've been following the shitstorm on Twitter concerning Starship Troopers -- I'm mutuals with the guy who unwittingly unleashed it, and who Bob sneered at -- and I have to say it's deeply weird how Bob is not alone. Lefty film Twitter and its hangers on got ahold of that thread, and they went absolutely berserk. They really, really do not like it when you challenge their view of the film not only as satire but as successful, brilliant satire. The initial thread didn't even claim it wasn't satire, just that it was poorly executed and ended up proving the points it was trying to mock. Bob's reaction is absolutely standard, and, for a wonder, less vituperative than many people who decided to shit on this guy.

I have no idea why folks on his side of the aisle have such an emotional attachment to an almost 30 year old movie that wasn't all that great in the first place.

 

[TowinKarz]

I have no idea why folks on his side of the aisle have such an emotional attachment to an almost 30 year old movie that wasn't all that great in the first place.

Like GamerGate , the progressive narrative must prevail over facts.

The late 90's is when the "temperature" of Hollywood really started shifting leftwards towards where is today, (just where MovieBob likes it) and any war film thus HAD to be satire about how stupid the whole concept of conflict and roughnecked men who intended to win it were. You'd have to be a NAZI to make a war film with a POSITIVE message in it!

Sure, we can except Saving Private Ryan, can't really call Spielberg a Nazi, but, we'll really tweak his nose at the Oscars when we give HIM Best Director, but give Best Picture to Shakespeare in Love, he he he! Silly boy! You can't give top honors to a film about WAR!

So that's why it's so darn important to them, they have to justify the hard left their industry took that led it to the wasteland it became as Not Their Fault (tm) they were Brilliant All Along (tm) and the current sad state of the silver screen is just small minded trolls who can't understand the nuance of cinema and it allllllllllllllllll started back with Starship Troopers where the chuds STILL don't get what a GENIUS piece of satire it is and think it's a pro-military piece, pshaw!

 

[Mr Processor]

Somewhat OT, but I've been following the shitstorm on Twitter concerning Starship Troopers -- I'm mutuals with the guy who unwittingly unleashed it, and who Bob sneered at -- and I have to say it's deeply weird how Bob is not alone. Lefty film Twitter and its hangers on got ahold of that thread, and they went absolutely berserk. They really, really do not like it when you challenge their view of the film not only as satire but as successful, brilliant satire. The initial thread didn't even claim it wasn't satire, just that it was poorly executed and ended up proving the points it was trying to mock. Bob's reaction is absolutely standard, and, for a wonder, less vituperative than many people who decided to shit on this guy.

I have no idea why folks on his side of the aisle have such an emotional attachment to an almost 30 year old movie that wasn't all that great in the first place.

I can understand why people like it, but not if those same people think it's some devastating satire of the military industrial complex. It just isn't. If that was Verhoeven's intention, he failed. I imagine it could be used as a recruitment film for the modern armed forces. Bob hates the average soldier, but still thinks we need to bomb Russia into the stone age.

 

[JayHarrison]

[2024.02.17-01] Someone whose life doesn't matter imagines what Bobby's obit will be like.

@TheNewEbb forgot to include "Bob Chipman, better known as 'Moviebob', was a Hitlerian sociopath..." Otherwise... no inaccuracies detected in @TheNewEbb's posts.

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[2024.02.17-02] James Gunn fired an Egyptian actor, allegedly because the actor doesn't kiss the ((())). Archive of Salon article. Archive of the IGN article Gunn linked in his tweet.

Here's that James Gunn boot you ordered, Bob.

17Feb#03

And here's that second boot you ordered to go, Bob.

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[2024.02.17-04] You'll be hearing X-men and the comic's supposed celebration of sexual degeneracy for quite a while...

Might as well retitle the franchise as Ex-Men. [rimshot]

[2024.02.17-08]

And how many of the X-Men actually are fruits? Asking for a friend?

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[2024.02.17-12]

Indeed, why not listen to Bob Chipman salivating over how hot Kristen Stewart is in jockstraps?

Moviebob's ideal woman has me be like:

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[2024.02.17-14]

So Mitt Romney would rather have the 80-year-old, child-sniffing PedoPete who's been running America into the ground since January 20, 2021?

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[2024.02.17-15] Self-driving cars.

If Moviebob were a sales rep for (_insert_brand_here_), I'd stop buying anything thing sold and/or deistributed by (_intet_same_brand_here_).

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[2024.02.17-16] Bobby gets touchy about the Marshmallow Test again.

Given that Moviebob frequently cries out "you're not a person", Bob shoud be treated in kind...

 

[Knyttet]

Bob: ”I want my Star Trek/Jetsons/WALL-E future where the machines do everything for me and I can just sit in a high tech bean bag chair and consoom endless content!”

Ok! Here’s a car that drives itself! Here’s a computer that paints, writes music and creates videos! Here’s a device that fits in the palm of your hand containing all human knowledge and every piece of media ever created!

Bob: *autistic screeching*

I really don’t get this man. Isn’t this EXACTLY what he wanted??

 

[Koby_Fish]

And, being in a time when he couldn't go on social media and tell the fans they were stupid and wrong? He had to just sit there as the praise came in for his "gritty realism" and "grim pragmatism" and say "yes, yes, I meant that all along!" while he stewed inside that we were all too dumb to "get it" , the REAL message was supposed to be "The Army SUCKS!" .

I can't remember, does Bob worship Verhoeven? Because if he does, this fucking tracks. You've heard of "Moviebob or Nazi", now get ready for "Moviebob or Paul Verhoeven".

I have no idea why folks on his side of the aisle have such an emotional attachment to an almost 30 year old movie that wasn't all that great in the first place.

Probably because way on back in 1997, Siskel & Ebert, Moviebob's heroes, declared that Starship Troopers is a "sly satire" as if it's some brilliant political satire. Of course Bob sucking Verhoeven's dick is some Emperor Has No Clothes shit going on here.

And how many of the X-Men actually are fruits? Asking for a friend?

"Duh, they're dressed like fruits at the pride parade so OF COURSE they're fruits, Friendo!" - Bob, probably.
Last I heard, Colossus was gay (in the comics, a long ass time ago, the late 90s if I'm not remembering incorrectly); not sure about anyone else.

Bob: ”I want my Star Trek/Jetsons/WALL-E future where the machines do everything for me and I can just sit in a high tech bean bag chair and consoom endless content!”

Ok! Here’s a car that drives itself! Here’s a computer that paints, writes music and creates videos! Here’s a device that fits in the palm of your hand containing all human knowledge and every piece of media ever created!

Bob: *autistic screeching*

I really don’t get this man. Isn’t this EXACTLY what he wanted??

because the one offering Self-Driving "exploding" cars is Elmo Muskrat, who had a divorce and hates his troon kid apparently and has money from apartheid emeralds, or so Bob thinks.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

Moviebob's ideal woman has me be like:

Let's be fair, at this point any woman is Bob's ideal woman. He's still a virgin at just shy of 43, and the longer you go without pussy, the easier it is to convince yourself that a four is an eight. Though for Bob a two is a ten for him. And a twenty if she's up for kissing another girl.

Bob: ”I want my Star Trek/Jetsons/WALL-E future where the machines do everything for me and I can just sit in a high tech bean bag chair and consoom endless content!”

Ok! Here’s a car that drives itself! Here’s a computer that paints, writes music and creates videos! Here’s a device that fits in the palm of your hand containing all human knowledge and every piece of media ever created!

Bob: *autistic screeching*

I really don’t get this man. Isn’t this EXACTLY what he wanted??

The wrong people are making it happen. He was pissed off that Trump was putting together Space Force, which is something he's been screeching for for decades, simply because Trump was the one who was doing it. Also, he hates AI art/animation because it means anyone can be an artist and he stops being special because he sees himself as one, and artists should be an elite class in his mind.

I have to wonder, considering his anger recently about broken promises, if his hatred for Elon is more about Space X not living up to the hype? Much like Kevin Smith and Zack Snyder, whenever someone Bob admires falters, he gets an irrational hatred for them. Elon did what he set out to do, made space missions cheaper and got more companies working on it. But the problem is he also promised Martian cities by 2030, and now we've realized that that's infeasible. But Bob doesn't understand that, so he assumes Elon is just being a lazy shit and wasting all of Space X's money on the twitter purchase because it's easier for him to accept that than admit that space travel is a bigger hassle than it's worth.

 

[TowinKarz]

I really don’t get this man. Isn’t this EXACTLY what he wanted??

No, the idiots and chuds didn't die out FIRST.

Remember, just like @ArthurMorgan says, Bobby doesn't want the superior future half as much as he wants those who haven't "earned" it to die before they can benefit.

 

[Imposteroak]

I really don’t get this man. Isn’t this EXACTLY what he wanted??

Bob is pretty inconsistent in his world views as a whole, but he does have this recurring fantasy about his star trek future where scientists (but not the douchey tech bro kind) and the "creative class" rule all of civilization as benevolent despots of some sort. Its what he sees the superior future as.
Ai has very much threatened the creative class part of it, so he is throwing a tantrum.
He has even sorta alluded to this in some tweets in the last month when he brought up that in perfect world all these ai dude bros would be slaves under said creative class. It's another poorly thought out fantasy that is not gonna happen for bobert.
No clue where he gets the idea that a creative class would rule over much of anything, since I don't think there is any historical precedent for such. Since its robert though I think I've already put more thought into it than he has.

 

[Positron]

I can't remember, does Bob worship Verhoeven? Because if he does, this fucking tracks. You've heard of "Moviebob or Nazi", now get ready for "Moviebob or Paul Verhoeven".

No. Bobby reviewed Elle and of course Benedetta, but he doesn't seem to care about Verhoeven much otherwise. He barely talks about Robocop and never about Basic Instinct at all -- which is unexpected, considering Sharon Stone's character sounds like the woman in his fantasies.

18Feb#01

Beats me.

18Feb#02
As the scandal about the Egyptian actor transpired, James Gunn's PR team has been busy phoning journoroaches.

As Discussing Film does not link to an article, here is an archive of Vulture. Gunn claims he fired the Egyptian before the latter talked to Piers Morgan about Palestine. This presumably makes Gunn a good goy, I mean good guy. BTW the actor was also made to announce on Youtube how he is a huge fan of James Gunn.

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18Feb#05
Twitter-man talks X-men.

"No message". I presume a pubic intellectual like Bobby has heard about "The medium is the message"?

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18Feb#09
Knock-off Daredevil with rat ears.


18Feb#10

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18Feb#11

18Feb#12



According to Google, Stuckmann caused a fervor when he announced he refused to review Madame Web. Curious that there was no fervor when Bobby refused to review Morbius and some Fantastic Beasts film.

18Feb#13
Lon Harris vents at some critics that are not Chris Stuckmann. Bobby excuses Stuckmann because he thinks Stuckmann is above harassing some poor, poor film maker. Bobby also tells us he has been approached by agents, but he turned them down in order to keep his conscience clean.


18Feb#14

"We don't need your help", then don't go crying on Twitter when you lose your job.

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18Feb#15
Peter Coffin is grudge-wanking at Breadtube guy again.


18Feb#16
A "right-wing subhumanoid" gets demonetized by Youtube. Bobby cannot be happier.


18Feb#17

Sounds like Wdwpro doesn't like sexual degeneracy and twerking. Just a specimen that fails to evolve.

18Feb#18
Even better news for Bobby: Youtube demonetizes a video by Sora, OpenAI's video-generation algorithm.

Does Bobby think Sora relies on Youtube money to survive? Rhetorical question.

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18Feb#19

18Feb#20
Yet another game in which tits fight tits.


18Feb#21
Captain N won.


BTW I saw this thing today. Year Of The Dragon Bowser: