Boeing Troubles - One of the world's largest aerospace manufacturers keeps having problems with their planes.

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All that hullabaloo for nothing. Those two astronauts could have been back on Earth now.....
Not sure they would be swayed at all by that, it was a bit nigger rigged indeed and the fact that it made it intact doesn't mean I'd happily take even a 10% chance of dying when I could wait a few months for a 0.001% chance, its not even comparable
 
All that hullabaloo for nothing. Those two astronauts could have been back on Earth now.....
What are the odds that during the communication blackout the ship burned up on re-entry and they had a planned replacement land instead? If it had failed then that would be the end of Boeing so maybe they had a contingency.
 
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737 Max production is now halted.
 
This means the vehicle will orbit the earth a few times as it slows down in the upper atmosphere at its reentry angle.
They don't glide anywhere near that far, for example, this video of the reentry of the Orion capsule lasts for 25 minutes from before reentry to splash-down. Even if we generously assumed Orion's tangential velocity to be 7.8 km/s (LEO orbital velocity) throughout it's whole descent, it wouldn't manage to complete a quarter of an orbit since LEOs have a period of about two hours.
 
Boeing is contracting out a lot of their maintenance jobs without giving their employees any compensation. In fact, if you look at PR statements from Boeing's higher-ups it sounds like they're having money problems. I wouldn't be surprised if the employees are sick of the company they work for continuing to get shit on in the news with these constant PR nightmares.

Also, it's worth noting that Civilian Boeing and Military Boeing are two different animals. Military Boeing is basically set for the next century what with the Air Force pushing the service lives a lot of weapons systems (Globemasters, A10s, F15s, F18s) forward for the next several decades. At least when a crash happens there they have the excuse of "it's a 40-year-old aircraft."
 
Also, it's worth noting that Civilian Boeing and Military Boeing are two different animals. Military Boeing is basically set for the next century what with the Air Force pushing the service lives a lot of weapons systems (Globemasters, A10s, F15s, F18s) forward for the next several decades. At least when a crash happens there they have the excuse of "it's a 40-year-old aircraft."
Millitary Boeing only does maintenance work then? No R&D or improvements?
 
Millitary Boeing only does maintenance work then? No R&D or improvements?
Hell no, if it's a military contract for some sort of fixed wing air vehicle they have some sort of proposal, prototype, whatever on it. they also do, bombs, missiles, helicopters, spy satellites

It's just even if they stopped all R&D theyve already built like half of the united sates military aircraft.
 
LET THE BODIES HIT THE FLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Sept 20 (Reuters) - Boeing (BA.N), opens new tab said on Friday the head of its troubled space and defense unit is leaving the company immediately, in the first management change under new CEO Kelly Ortberg.
Ortberg who took over in August said Ted Colbert would be leaving and Steve Parker, the unit's chief operating officer, would assume Colbert's responsibilities until a replacement is named at a later date.
"At this critical juncture, our priority is to restore the trust of our customers and meet the high standards they expect of us to enable their critical missions around the world," Ortberg wrote in an email to employees. "Working together we can and will improve our performance and ensure we deliver on our commitments."

Boeing's space business has suffered significant setbacks, notably NASA's recent decision to send Boeing's Starliner capsule home without astronauts that followed years of missteps. Starliner has cost Boeing $1.6 billion in overruns since 2016, according to a Reuters analysis of securities filings.
Colbert's departure comes at a time when Boeing has been trying to save cash by announcing furloughs of thousands of white-collar workers amid a strike by more than 32,000 of its workers.

Boeing has also faced significant woes after a new Alaska Airlines 737 MAX 9 in January suffered a mid-air emergency after it was missing four key bolts.
Boeing in July agreed to plead guilty to a criminal fraud conspiracy charge and pay at least $243.6 million after breaching a 2021 deferred prosecution agreement. The government said Boeing knowingly made false representations to the Federal Aviation Administration about key software for the 737 MAX.

The FAA has tightened oversight of Boeing and barred it from expanding production of the MAX beyond 38 planes per month until it makes significant quality and safety improvements.
Parker was brought in to shore up industrial leadership and help fix loss-making programs with a new operating management role just under two years ago. He had previously headed Boeing's bomber and fighter programs as well as its St Louis defense plants.

"Historically, Boeing held a superior reputation for our ability to manage programs, and we need to ensure it remains a key differentiator for us in the future," Ortberg wrote in separate email to employees on Friday.
Ortberg added he had learned "more about the future investments we need to make to be competitive and define our future, as well as about some of the more near-term hurdles engineering faces with first-time quality and execution."

Colbert, who joined Boeing in 2009 after working at Citigroup and Ford Motor, took the reins at Boeing Defense and Space in April 2022 after the prior head of defense was ousted.
Boeing's defense, space and security unit, one of its three main businesses, has lost billions of dollars in 2023 and 2022, which executives attributed in large part to cost overruns on fixed-price contracts.
Such contracts have high margins but leave defense contractors vulnerable to inflationary pressures that have dented U.S. corporate earnings in the last few years.
Boeing has lost more than $2 billion on its delayed program to deliver two heavily retrofitted Boeing 747-8s for use as U.S. presidential aircraft known as Air Force One. The 747-8s are designed to be an airborne White House able to fly in worst-case security scenarios, such as nuclear war.
Boeing's shares closed down about 1% on Friday and have lost about 41% so far this year.
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Reporting by Utkarsh Shetti in Bengaluru, David Shepardson in Washington and Joe Brock in Los Angeles; Editing by Shounak Dasgupta, Marguerita Choy and Shri Navaratnam
Military Boeing is basically set for the next century what with the Air Force pushing the service lives a lot of weapons systems
This is totally wrong. Boeing has gotten turbofucked on fixed priced military contracts so badly that they've public stated they will no longer compete for them.

The whole tanker program is now billions in the hole with billions more to come before its over.

Also the US government is going to be coming down hard on 'unnecessary' weapons systems over the next few years. Turns out you can't just print money to buy things!
 
This is totally wrong. Boeing has gotten turbofucked on fixed priced military contracts so badly that they've public stated they will no longer compete for them.
I refuse to believe that Boeing isn’t at fault here. How can you fuck up a program where you basically just modify AN EXISTING plane?

Fuck Boeing management and fuck Boeing employees.
They turned down an offer that would have given them a TWENTYFIVE percent raise.

Greedy fucks.
 
I refuse to believe that Boeing isn’t at fault here. How can you fuck up a program where you basically just modify AN EXISTING plane?
Boeing got the contract because they bribed the girlboss in charge of appropriations; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darleen_Druyun

I don't think anyone had really analyzed the costs when they put that bid in, it was just a 'get it now fuck airbus lol' thing.
 
I refuse to believe that Boeing isn’t at fault here. How can you fuck up a program where you basically just modify AN EXISTING plane?
Easy 2 step process for Boeing:
  1. every modification requires rework at least twice
  2. still fuck it up
The airframe isn't the issue with the KC-46. Everything they added to make it capable of aerial refueling is turbo-fucked.
 
Also, it's worth noting that Civilian Boeing and Military Boeing are two different animals
No. They are same animal. Just 2 different legs
BDS is the military a division of Boeing
BCA is the civilian division.
There is also a parts and service division.

It's all part of the the same company. Unless Boeing spins off BDS it can still be impacted by massive losses in other divisions. And as noted above BDS is fucking up too.

Boeing is going to end up being the next Chrysler. In the 1960s Chrysler was making everything from cars, trucks (civ and mil), boats, tanks, and missiles. They even made Saturn rockets. Then in just 1 decade it all went to shit. The Space division folded when it's design lost out to what became the Shuttle. And they had to sell off Chrysler Defense in 1982 (which became General Dynamics LS). What remained spent another 20 years dying.
 
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