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Vaush sounded maybe a bit louder than usual on his streams, but it doesn’t look intentional. He had mic issues prior to the debate and he tried adjusting during it as well.
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Vaush sounded maybe a bit louder than usual on his streams, but it doesn’t look intentional. He had mic issues prior to the debate and he tried adjusting during it as well.
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Oh I remember this story.
Sargon embarrassed himself after orchestrating some sort of asinine ambush for Jim on another sperg's stream so he could confront him about him making fun of his dumb liberalist society, after which the remainder of his dick riders, SFO being chief among them, spent the next few months picking fights with Jim to selvage their pride because they all live vicariously through Carl. SFO was the most obsessive of the bunch, constantly bringing up Jim at random on his mind numbingly boring streams, teasing a Jim takedown stream for months before finally having is all be dead on arrival (just like sargon's baby) when his incredible black PR tactic was inviting some furry on stream who Jim hasn't talked to in 5 years to tell a couple of boring stories about him that SFO desperately tried to paint as devastating. His big "gotcha's" were that Jim is older than other internet trolls, that his videos don't have enough effort put into them and that he's fucking a hot asian chick who's half his age. He also implicitly threatened to dox him. What followed was Jim laughing at getting video making advice from someone who's second channel has videos with literally zero views and bringing up the fact SFO was once accused of being/pretending to be his lesbian friend to scam girls online into sending him nudes. Jim then agreed to talk to him on stream, only for SFO to makes stupid excuses on why he can't do it (he had to eat dinner for 4 hours), accept the invite and retracts his acceptance several times, go pick a fight with people on /cow/ (a great move considering the last time he tried that they all just laughed at him and instantly doxed his entire family) and then finally agree to go on the killstream and then respond to everything with "Okay" because that's what Jim said he would probably do since SFO's criticism's of him mean nothing to him. Then he lost his composure again hours later and started arguing with people about it again.
To this day SFO still holds a grudge against Jim over this and occasionally brings him up during streams out of nowhere, while Jim probably hasn't given it a second thought. Just a week ago, on one of his godawful podcasts with paste eating friend, SFO brought up Jim getting banned from patreon saying "It's funny because of who it's happening to" (this is also a guy who constantly whines about tech censorship), so he's clearly still mad about it.
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Carl got BTFO.
Vaush said if you want to reduce crime with migrants, stop accepting young men of all types, as they commit the most crime. Carl then replies, well not all men are the same, are they? Or something to that effect.
Carl's earlier position was that he wanted to end all immigration.
Vaush said if you want to reduce crime with migrants, stop accepting young men of all types, as they commit the most crime. Carl then replies, well not all men are the same, are they? Or something to that effect.
Carl's earlier position was that he wanted to end all immigration.
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I'll say again, I think there's something to be said about the type of people that just have to overcorrect for falling into a niche circlejerk on one end of the political spectrum by joining up with another niche circlejerk thats on the other end of the political spectrum
and that something to be said about those types of people is they're directionless, standardless re.tards without an independent bone in their body
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For sure man, I always find it fascinating in these videos whenever someone claims a youtube video changed their entire political view in one video. Like, if that was all it took to change your entire worldview then you probably didn't have much of one, to begin with, or are way too easily influenced by, and at the whims of whoever youtube deems popular and worth recommending to you at any given moment. Very standardless and directionless indeed, entitlement, laziness, and willful ignorance on top of being easily manipulated by confident sweet talkers are all very common traits I've noticed in these political communities. This is essentially Pigpuncher's entire channel identity at this point.
EDIT: Ditto for every single "Contrapoints saved me or is saving the internet" video or post anywhere.
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Hux
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It's not even just YouTube videos that gets to these people, I knew a guy (now admittedly a personal cow of mine) that went from typical /v/ & /pol/ poster/YouTube skeptic watcher ala 2014-15 to full blown furry Anarcho-Syndicalist troon (now NB) Antifa lover after getting henpecked on Tumblr for daring to suggest that maybe chimping out and showing your whole ass shouldn't be the default response to every time some cop somewhere shoots someone.
Point being is that anyone that has to politically overcorrect this fucking much are either being duplicitous snakes or are just that genuinely nucking futs and abnormal
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why did contra leave twitter again
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That's probably why troonery is so ubiquitous and constantly brought up with these guys. There is probably something somewhat comforting to an antisocial jackass no one likes about being able to change any aspect of your caracter at wihm like in a video game. Because to them, life is a game itself.
IIRC: Something about changing her twitter pronouns and shouting out a "TERF" or "TRUSCUM" ( I really hate these dumb titles they give everything.) named Buck Angel.
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Dude had some tranny porn star whos views did not line up with his fan bases views on his channel. So of course they flipped out cause when you gather a hyper sensitive fan base like that, that's the kind of shit they will do.
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Early on in the Vaush/Carl debate they get into a tussle around the appeal to authority fallacy. Vaush saying that its valid if the authority is an appropriate person to appeal to while Carl argues that its doesn't prove an argument. Carl is more correct in this case however.
What Vaush was contending is that the fallacy only applies in the case of appeals to non-authorities, which is true. But Carl's assertion that it doesn't prove an argument is malformed because he should be using the word valid.
And for Vaush to be so fucking cocksure and haughty over what he believed could be proved through a simple google search only for that to show Carl mostly in the fucking right, is embarrassing.
en.wikipedia.org
Hell without even looking at wikipedia we could use a more succinct source.
Literally all Carl had to do to btfo him was use the word valid. This was dumb as fuck, Vaush.
Around 1:15:00 on the Stitch stream for the Vaush/Carl debate, the point about the middle class was brought up. Vaush tried to say that the middle class were essentially petite bourgeoisie and that they were proletarians, but then twenty seconds later would say that they were neither prole or bourgeoisie.
But like, at least according to wikipedia the petite are still bourgeoisie.
en.wikipedia.org
Kind of a couple oofs there, Vaush. Shit like this makes me very skeptical whenever you talk about shit, because this should be super basic.
What Vaush was contending is that the fallacy only applies in the case of appeals to non-authorities, which is true. But Carl's assertion that it doesn't prove an argument is malformed because he should be using the word valid.
And for Vaush to be so fucking cocksure and haughty over what he believed could be proved through a simple google search only for that to show Carl mostly in the fucking right, is embarrassing.
Argument from authority - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
Hell without even looking at wikipedia we could use a more succinct source.
Literally all Carl had to do to btfo him was use the word valid. This was dumb as fuck, Vaush.
Around 1:15:00 on the Stitch stream for the Vaush/Carl debate, the point about the middle class was brought up. Vaush tried to say that the middle class were essentially petite bourgeoisie and that they were proletarians, but then twenty seconds later would say that they were neither prole or bourgeoisie.
But like, at least according to wikipedia the petite are still bourgeoisie.
Petite bourgeoisie - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
Kind of a couple oofs there, Vaush. Shit like this makes me very skeptical whenever you talk about shit, because this should be super basic.
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Early on in the Vaush/Carl debate they get into a tussle around the appeal to authority fallacy. Vaush saying that its valid if the authority is an appropriate person to appeal to while Carl argues that its doesn't prove an argument. Carl is more correct in this case however.
What Vaush was contending is that the fallacy only applies in the case of appeals to non-authorities, which is true. But Carl's assertion that it doesn't prove an argument is malformed because he should be using the word valid.
And for Vaush to be so fucking cocksure and haughty over what he believed could be proved through a simple google search only for that to show Carl mostly in the fucking right, is embarrassing.
Argument from authority - Wikipedia
Hell without even looking at wikipedia we could use a more succinct source.
Literally all Carl had to do to btfo him was use the word valid. This was dumb as fuck, Vaush.
Adam the moderator was even gently prodding him that authorities could be wrong, almost throwing him a rope to save himself from embarrassment. I've seen this get brought up a few times as an insult or a way of dismissing people that are not in the "I fucking love science" crowd, but the truth of the matter is our understanding of pretty much everything is constantly changing, and in fact the concept of "settled science" is actually antithetical to science. Vaush likely appeals to authority alot, but only when the authority itself agrees with him.
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Attention whores generally have no actual ideals, just a desire for attention. So if they do politics, they do it in as extreme and attention getting a way as possible and act like complete fucking assholes about it. That's why so many SJWs are "reformed" edgelords who do the exact same shit they used to do, just with a fig leaf of wokeness.
Hux
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Pretty much this. The guy I was talking about was your prototypical /v/irgin back in the board's heyday, went for the run of the mill ironic God Hates Fags type humor, was super into 2010 era YouTube Skeptic community stuff ala Thunderf00t, mellowed out when it became more fashionable to hate on /v/, declared himself a libertarian, went on Tumblr to reblog cringe culture shit and make fun of SJWs, he finally got dogpiled by them until he became just like them into the no-fun-allowed NB, Poly AnCom-Lite that he is now. He even follows our Shaun here religiously on Twitter
Despite him being a political chameleon for much of his young adult life, the only thing that remained a permanent constant about him was that he was always a disloyal, unlikable shitbag who only cared about his image and literally nothing and no one else
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At the very core of it all, it's all about coattail-riding and self-aggrandizement with people like him and everyone else in Breadtube; that's why I greatly despise these people because you know they have no genuine principles or ethos they have any desire to live by nor do they have any sense of loyalty or trust in others (demonstrated by how none of these people have any genuine friends or loved ones (and don't get me started on how fucked up their relations with what existing family they have must be like)). These people would have just as easily turned out to be the exact same Nazis they claim to hate if they thought there was an equal or greater net benefit for them compared to the current shitty lefty schtick they've decided to run with now
No wonder why these fuckheads gravitate towards politics so damn much, they're all Politician Material with a capital fucking P and M; they have the cretinry and general scumbaggery to match them.
I don't like them not because they're leftists or whatever kind of shit reason like that because in this case, political leaning isn't what it's about. I don't like people like the guy I used as an example and the folks on Breadtube because I don't trust them and they haven't demonstrated to me any reason why I should
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Hit the nail on the head. All the bandwagon jumping and trend chasing are symptomatic of the kind of person who severely feels the need to be validated and have attention and praise constantly heaped upon them without ever having done anything to warrant it.
I have assumed for a while now, it was less political and more a way for people to jumpstart a YouTube and streaming career using politics to attract the built in audience associated with them. That's why I think Vaush has been gradually moving towards gaming streams. He realizes that Breadtubes days are becoming increasingly numbered, consider how many breadtubers will most likely be done in by COPPA. You won't be able to advocate for political violence or whatever reactionary extremists talking points are raking in the views with games or animated characters in the video without explicitly labeling it not for kids, which will mean youtube is probably not going to be recommending it all the time.
It seems the chickens are finally coming home to roost, Vaush at least has seen the writing on the wall and is going to probably distance himself from the movement as a whole once it's time to jump ship for good. I am curious what will become of these guys after this dust settles down. I am also morbidly curious what awful trend will replace Breadtube.
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Even the most obvious examples of "settled science" like the Earth being round refines with time (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geoid).