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Breadtube, is without a shadow of a doubt another shallow youtube trend like skeptics. My 14+ years of experience with the platform makes me really want to press x to doubt. Identical interchangeable videos and channels like breadtube hardly ever pop up organically. Contra points got a lot of shout outs from the msm and people noticed got jealous and hoped on the trend train. Just having a dumb name like breadtube is indicative of a trend like storytime animators or ani-tubers etc.

I don't think it will ever be as large as the anti sjw vid scene is what I was saying. Anti sjw vids were short and even the non overtly political could find entertainment in them. A lot more clickbaity as well. H3h3 were making them at one point. Pretty sure pewdiepie did too. It wasnt just skeptics.

Skeptics started out as athiest tubers anyway, that's where the title skeptic came from. These people already had a following by making fedora athiest videos. That somehow turned into anti sjw liberalist content. Gamergate infused people like Carl into them.

Anything can be a trend but it doesn't mean it will catch on. Contrapoints is the only relevant one that ppl have heard of and that is solely because shes trans. She was making videos as a dude countering the skeptics and never really caught on until recently. The channel isn't new. His old videos are actually far superior than his content as a woman. He had an actual personality back then and the videos actually had a point. They were far more leftist messaged as well. Now he seems to basically be a liberal after becomming rich. Dunno if that he even fits into the actual meaning of breadtube at this point. Being trans doesn't make one a leftist.

Skeptics were quite numerous and all the big ones have 100k to 1 milli sub channels. There's what? 3 or 4 larger breadtubers?
 
Here is a random sampling of various breadtubers or people popular with the breadtube crowd and their sub counts. I know sub count ain't what it used to be, but it is the quickest metric to look at. Red means banished or controversial, Blue means they were big or known before Breadtube became a thing.
YoutuberCurrent Subs
Thought Slime77.7k
Vaush46.6
Noncompete68.8k
Jack Saint88.3k
Sam Seder718k
The Serfs39.7k
The Young Turks4.56 Mil
Destiny214k
Lindsey Ellis847k
Hbomberguy499k
Pigpuncher14.5k
Faraday Speaks21.7k
Secular Talk758k
Innuendo Studios234k
Contra Points781k
 
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Here is a random sampling of various breadtubers or people popular with the breadtube crowd and their sub counts. I know sub count ain't what it used to be, but it is the quickest metric to look at. Red means banished or controversial, Blue means they were big or known before Breadtube became a thing.
YoutuberCurrent Subs
Thought Slime77.7k
Vaush46.6
Noncompete68.8k
Jack Saint88.3k
Sam Seder718k
The Serfs39.7k
The Young Turks4.56 Mil
Destiny214k
Lindsey Ellis847k
Hbomberguy499k
Pigpuncher14.5k
Faraday Speaks21.7k
Secular Talk758k
Innuendo Studios234k
Contra Points781k
Philosophy Tube also has a sizable sub count of over 500k. Either him or Innuendo Studios are the largest Breadtubers that hadn't accumulated any real audience before hopping on the bandwagon.

Lindsey Ellis and Hbomber I can understand since they're videos aren't just political.
 
@A Humble Ewok TYT and secular talk aren't breadtube. Destiny never was either. Same with Faraday and Sam Seder. Breadtube literally refers to communist/socialist. Not liberal or social democrat. Awful list. You compiled a bunch of liberals.

All the actual communists/socialists who make nothing but political content have no real following. Thought Slime is the largest on that list other than Contra, who seems to no longer even be a leftist.

Putting Destiny in the same category as Non Compete is like putting Liberalist era Sargon in the same category as Mike Enoch. These people are idealogically opposed to one another. Both right wing but have very little in common.
 
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This was the gayest textwall I've ever read in my life.
Let's see what the guy who has a "lizard brain attraction" to Contrapoints is up to now.
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" I can't shake the feeling that it'd be like grooming/indoctrinating her into some sort of cult "
 
@A Humble Ewok TYT and secular talk aren't breadtube. Destiny never was either. Same with Faraday and Sam Seder. Breadtube literally refers to communist/socialist. Not liberal or social democrat. Awful list. You compiled a bunch of liberals.

All the actual communists/socialists who make nothing but political content have no real following.
Learn to actually read reeeetard, I color coated it so people who were already big or tangentially related were marked in blue. As for Faraday, he came in as breadtube's biggest cheerleader.
 
Here is a random sampling of various breadtubers or people popular with the breadtube crowd and their sub counts. I know sub count ain't what it used to be, but it is the quickest metric to look at. Red means banished or controversial, Blue means they were big or known before Breadtube became a thing.
YoutuberCurrent Subs
Thought Slime77.7k
Vaush46.6
Noncompete68.8k
Jack Saint88.3k
Sam Seder718k
The Serfs39.7k
The Young Turks4.56 Mil
Destiny214k
Lindsey Ellis847k
Hbomberguy499k
Pigpuncher14.5k
Faraday Speaks21.7k
Secular Talk758k
Innuendo Studios234k
Contra Points781k
I'd put shaun on that list. Speaking of shaun he uploaded a almost 3 hour vid today. Going over "The bell curve" book. I skimmed through parts of the video its self. Typical shaun vid, his voice is boring and annoying making it pretty insufferable. He doesn't even try to add humor to it to make it intresting. (Not that the jokes would be funny anyways.) Only this time it's 100 times worse cause the vid if 3 fucking hours long. How do people sit through this shit?

 
Learn to actually read reeeetard, I color coated it so people who were already big or tangentially related were marked in blue. As for Faraday, he came in as breadtube's biggest cheerleader.

I read your post, it was dumb. You associated a bunch of people that have nothing to do with breadtube with breadtube at all. Like TYT? Lol seriously? Pretty sure they were sure quick to disavow Hassan once he went full radical commie.

Faraday actually claimed to be deradicalized by Destiny debating the alt right. He now claims to be a liberal. He is not Breadtube. I think he mentioned watching contrapoints as well but other than that he has nothing to do with them. He claims to dislike political radicals, including leftists.
 
I'd put shaun on that list. Speaking of shaun he uploaded a almost 3 hour vid today. Going over "The bell curve" book. I skimmed through parts of the video its self. Typical shaun vid, his voice is boring and annoying making it pretty insufferable. He doesn't even try to add humor to it to make it intresting. (Not that the jokes would be funny anyways.) Only this time it's 100 times worse cause the vid if 3 fucking hours long. How do people sit through this shit?

I'm one minute in and I already want to die.
 
Here is a random sampling of various breadtubers or people popular with the breadtube crowd and their sub counts. I know sub count ain't what it used to be, but it is the quickest metric to look at. Red means banished or controversial, Blue means they were big or known before Breadtube became a thing.
YoutuberCurrent Subs
Thought Slime77.7k
Vaush46.6
Noncompete68.8k
Jack Saint88.3k
Sam Seder718k
The Serfs39.7k
The Young Turks4.56 Mil
Destiny214k
Lindsey Ellis847k
Hbomberguy499k
Pigpuncher14.5k
Faraday Speaks21.7k
Secular Talk758k
Innuendo Studios234k
Contra Points781k

I got a bit bored so i added a new metric to a few of those people
YoutuberCurrent SubsEngaged Subscribers (average of last 6 videos minus High+low deviations and atypical content)
Thought Slime77.7k31%
Vaush46.648%
Noncompete68.8k15%
Jack Saint88.3k109%
Sam Seder718kViewership way to inconsistent to calculate accurately but i would say it between 5-10% when it isn't about Trump
Destiny214kPrimarly a Streamer but 19.5%
Contra Points781k164%

I think this gives a better idea of how each how how things shake out when it comes to the Breadtube sphere. If any one has any question why I left out Large deviation(aka popular videos) feel free to ask. As for the Atypical content I left out any Vlog type videos/Pateron/Channel trailers/ect.This was a down a dirty method because i dont have access to excel right now but i think this will be good enough

This didn't really surprise me the most popular people out side of Contrapoints are the ones who really lean there Brand on pop culture. While the others try to lean on the ideology leading them to being a lot less popular. If you are curious Hbomerguy and Lindsey have similar subscriber engagement as Jack Saint which isn't surpsing because they also lean into pop/nerd culture. Contrapoints isn't surprising because of here media push and that extra 64% of engagement is mostly coming from Reddit/Socail media posts.
 
I read your post, it was dumb. You associated a bunch of people that have nothing to do with breadtube with breadtube at all. Like TYT? Lol seriously? Pretty sure they were sure quick to disavow Hassan once he went full radical commie.
Again, why don't you go back and actually read...
Here is a random sampling of various breadtubers or people popular with the breadtube crowd
Oh wait let me make it clearer for you
Here is a random sampling of various breadtubers or people popular with the breadtube crowd
Since you are exceptional enough, let me make it even MORE clear for you.
Here is a random sampling of various breadtubers or people popular with the breadtube crowd
While I'm aware that the "Bread" in "Breadtube" refers to the anarcho-communist book Conquest of the Bread, it has become a catch-all term for content left of center. Their own website lists "Cult of Dusty" as breadtube certified. Its not a truely well defined thing, much like how the "Skeptics" were a loose knit group of Youtubers, and not skeptics in the actual definition of the term. The spectrum for them [autism joke here] runs from progressive to full on commie. Cenk's video are regularly posted on their subreddit, with his communist nephew considered a breadline staple.

As for Faraday, I can still hear him saying Contra Point's name like a child talking about the girl he has a crush on from school. He had video, that he has now removed, where he specifically thanked Breadtube. Even if he has distanced himself since then (he called himself a moderate on his Killstream appearance), I'd still consider him a name to throw into the spreadsheet, since most his audience came from the breadlines.

By the way is Noncompete's girlfriend trans? Her shoulders are broad and she has a mannish face. I've heard she is Vietnamese, which I find odd, since most Vietnamese living in the west do not take kindly to Communism and Communist. Being trans and wanting a nice boyfriend who will openly date you leaves you to the likes of Noncompete (or whatever the fuck Blair's fiance is).
 
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I'd put shaun on that list. Speaking of shaun he uploaded a almost 3 hour vid today. Going over "The bell curve" book. I skimmed through parts of the video its self. Typical shaun vid, his voice is boring and annoying making it pretty insufferable. He doesn't even try to add humor to it to make it intresting. (Not that the jokes would be funny anyways.) Only this time it's 100 times worse cause the vid if 3 fucking hours long. How do people sit through this shit?

it's a pretty good vid IMO i think you just have a gold fish brain and need constant visual stimulation because apparently "jangling keys in front of my face" is your idea of a good video.
 
This didn't really surprise me the most popular people out side of Contrapoints are the ones who really lean there Brand on pop culture. While the others try to lean on the ideology leading them to being a lot less popular. If you are curious Hbomerguy and Lindsey have similar subscriber engagement as Jack Saint which isn't surpsing because they also lean into pop/nerd culture. Contrapoints isn't surprising because of here media push and that extra 64% of engagement is mostly coming from Reddit/Socail media posts.
Breadtube being Channel Awesome with Victorian wallpaper confirmed.
 
it's a pretty good vid IMO i think you just have a gold fish brain and need constant visual stimulation because apparently "jangling keys in front of my face" is your idea of a good video.
3 hours of him talking with a voice that some how manages to be boring and annyoing at the same doesn't make it good tbh. Also I care less about what ever visuals he uses. His voice is just so uninteresting.
 
This was posted over on the Quinton Reviews thread.
The video itself is a bit long, but actually a pretty good analysis of someone trend hopping and finally crashing and burning into Breadtube. There are plenty of small jabs at, and observations about Breadtube, but I would like to point out a couple quotes that I believe encapsulate the discussion we've been having the last couple of days about breadtubers, trends, and the actual motives behind it all in a pretty eloquent manner, I would like to hilghight two points he makes in particular. The first comes at the 1:19:20 mark and the other at 1:27:45.

1. "In the middle of Quinton's identity crisis, he may have latched onto Breadtube as the antithesis of Doug Walker. The fact of the matter is that Breadtube certainly has a lot in common with Channel Awesome. They've progressed in almost the exact same way, with their videos becoming longer and more theatrical with increased emphasis being put on skits. PhilosophyTube is literally including multiple full length musical numbers in half hour videos. Does that remind you of anyone? This is where things come full circle."

2. "When he steps up to talking about mainstream films, he struggles and resorts to talking about social and political messages to make his interpretations seem meaningful in lieu of a genuine understanding of film. His ability to discuss political issues is just as bad because Quinton is uninformed and narcissistic. He believes himself to be fighting for something and is incapable of having a rational political discussion. That wouldn't necessarily preclude him from talking about politics on youtube, as most of the big Breadtubers are uninformed emotionally unstable narcissists who bullshit their way through 40 minute long videos. But, unlike Quinton, they are willing to put a little effort into the production value into their videos. They don't stare into a camera do one take and edit it together with jumpcuts. Breadtubers throw on the "bisexual lighting" and chuck in jive for the audience that is only there because they have a parasocial relationship with the presenter."

I think he's right on the money, not only about Quinton but most Breadtubers as a whole (especially ones who rely on media) like I said Its 90 minutes long and a bit droning at points, but I'd definitely recommend it if you are interested in Breadtube and have the spare time and patience.

While I'm aware that the "Bread" in "Breadtube" refers to the anarcho-communist book Conquest of the Bread, it has become a catch-all term for content left of center.
I was thinking along these same lines. Breadtube as a whole seems a lot more preoccupied with and interested in gender and identity politics than economics (probably because that stuff is boring and uninteresting compared to constant grandstanding and theatrics over muh feels.) capitalism is usually brought up as a scapegoat for whatever issue they've taken up with society on that particular day. I personally, have always found the reference to the Kropotkin book humorous. Mainly because I'd put money on barely any of them actually reading it, just dittoing the name because Reddit and other YouTubers were doing it. The irony of someone dropping money on physical copies of communist literature (that is available online for free) to use as set dressing to essentially "look the part" and appear well read on the topics gets me every time.

On a final note, what the hell happened to this thread in the last 48 hours? Where did all this white knighting come from? Why are we defending Vaush and Shaun now, and fighting all of the sudden? I don't like Sargon either, but I think there is probably a more appropriate thread for sperging about him.
 
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You wanna have a negative posting only allowed circle jerk? Go read the anti sjw thread if hearing that Vaush won the debate and someone liked one of Seans video actually triggers you. I think Seans boring but hearing that opinion that he is boring over and over again is boring.

I wish pigpunchers fans actually did raid here and stay. Who the fuck wants to read the same stale takes? Pig lovers please come here and tell us why he is great. Sean's video lover stay too.

Hug boxes are corny and boring.
 
You wanna have a negative posting only allowed circle jerk? Go read the anti sjw thread if hearing that Vaush won the debate and someone liked one of Seans video actually triggers you. I think Seans boring but hearing that opinion that he is boring over and over again is boring.

I wish pigpunchers fans actually did raid here and stay. Who the fuck wants to read the same stale takes? Pig lovers please come here and tell us why he is great. Sean's video lover stay too.

Hug boxes are corny and boring.
They are too busy shitposting on D&D and CSPAM about hormones or orange blimps or someother SNCA
 
it's a pretty good vid IMO i think you just have a gold fish brain and need constant visual stimulation because apparently "jangling keys in front of my face" is your idea of a good video.
I didn't watch it because I don't need a 3 hour long college essay to listen to in my day, but I suspect it's going to be about denying racial IQ variance, in which case I fail to see how it can be a good video
 
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