Brianna Wu / John Walker Flynt - "Biggest Victim of Gamergate," Failed Game Developer, Failed Congressional Candidate

Sure John, this is cute and funny and not at all stupid or psychopathic.

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Ghostse said:
The Comanches weren't noble, ever.
Before horses came around, they were bark-eating troglodytes who lived in the mountains. The reason they hate the Sioux (and many of the other plains tribes) so much is the Sioux would hunt & kill them (because they would steal things - skins, food, women - when the sioux camped too close to the mountains). The Sioux legends shit on the early comanche as being beneath bears and too stupid to figure out bows on their own - if north america had had non-human primates they would have called them below monkeys. They were pretty much Neanderthals.

For whatever reason, then the comanche encountered horses, they had an almost instinctual connection with the animals. They could break a wild horse in hours, and were able to ride and do things from horse back that no one else could. No longer confined to the mountains they were chased into, they could go out and get revenge on the Sioux. Which they did.

For reason I won't get into, the introduction of the horse made Indians extremely fucked up and violent.

All the plains tribes would torture captives in all sorts of fucked up ways, but the Comanche were especially fucked up in the things they'd do if they decided today was torture captives day.

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I had the impression Sioux were living in South Carolina when the Comanche first emerged from Utah/Colorado and only later got pushed (by that crushing that happens anywhere settler colonies form) out to the Minnesota/Dakotas area. Maybe one of those stories the Sioux made up, like a lot of those origin stories tribes have where they claim they've always been there.

The Comanches were definitely absolute degenerates, though. Extremely violent, sadistic raiders that produced nothing, completely patriarchal (women were chattels to them), slave society, duplicitous in all their dealings. You couldn't treat with Comanches, because they'd violate any treaty immediately. They were a terror to everyone around them and annihilating them was a service to humanity.
 
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AnOminous said:
I love when Kiwis aren't just racist but racist in really detailed ways.
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It's true though. The noble savage thing is complete bullshit and they get beyond butt mad when a white devil that knows their shit pushes their face in it. American Indians are human versions of trash pandas.
 
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Ughubughughughughughghlug said:
I had the impression Sioux were living in South Carolina when the Comanche first emerged from Utah/Colorado and only later got pushed (by that crushing that happens anywhere settler colonies form) out to the Minnesota/Dakotas area. Maybe one of those stories the Sioux made up, like a lot of those origin stories tribes have where they claim they've always been there.

The Comanches were definitely absolute degenerates, though. Extremely violent, sadistic raiders that produced nothing, completely patriarchal (women were chattels to them), slave society, duplicitous in all their dealings. You couldn't treat with Comanches, because they'd violate any treaty immediately. They were a terror to everyone around them and annihilating them was a service to humanity.
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You mean South Dakota? I had to refresh my memory - the Sioux are two cousin-tribes, the Datoka and the Lakota. The Lakota were the western tribe (and dominant today). The Datoka were in Minnesota/Wisconsin and when the French showed up, getting their asses handed to them by the Iroquois. The Lakota were a buffalo tribe, before the discover of the horse, they would follow buffalo migrations on foot for a while, and would trade the meat and hides to their less mobile Dakota cousins.
The *Akota tribes say they are the same people who split, but we really only have their word for that. The plains doesn't preserve corpses well at all, they didn't build any permanent structure, there is no written records, I don't even believe they developed pottery because they'd just trade of it, and they've been fucking each other and everyone else along the middle US and US/Canada border for around for 500 years so genetic analysis is nearly worthless, no matter what anyone fishing for grant funding tells you.

Because no one wrote anything down, its hard to tell how much of the Sioux legends are "first hand", how much is from a tribe absorbed by the Lakota, and - given their level of hate for them - how much is straight propaganda dreamt up later because some elder was buttmad at the Comanche.

You could deal with SOME Comanches, if you proved your strength. The last good governor of New Spain kicked the comaches' asses so hard they had a century of peace and trade.
The problem with making a deal where the Comanche didn't fear you was you made deals with individuals not the band let alone the tribe. If you gave a Comanche warband some blankets (infested with small pox, of course) to not murder your family, the exact same Comanche warriors might come back the next day and murder you and your family because they were riding under a different warleader. Some of the more eastern Comanches were a little more civilized and leadership a lot less fluid, but you could run into the issue where you might make a deal with the local Comanche for peace, but then if a Western band rolled up not only would the locals tell the new arrivals all about your villages but some of them would likely ride out for a share of the plunder.

If you looked tough or proved your strength and you rubbed them the right way, the Comanche would leave you alone or even be friendly.
The Comanche and the Kiowa, for some reason probably because they were both groups of ultraviolent psychopaths, got on famously to the point they would pass through each other's territory and recruited each other for raids. There was a white explorer who would get approached by the local Comanche to ride out on raids with them.

AnOminous said:
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Reality is super racist.
The Plains Indians were products of their environment and the sudden introduction of the horse. European cultures, mainly the British/Irish Celts, also had a period after getting introduced to the horse by the Romans of being incredibly violent and super fucked up with each other. But this 'uwu peaceful wise shamans just living in harmony with nature' shit is utter retarded and pisses me off. Also because it emasculates the Indians.

I mean you have dudes like Joe Medicine Crow who did all the tasks you needed to be a Crow war leader. But instead of hyping that shit and trying to get another guy to complete the trials in Afghanistan, its forgotten and buried so they can play victim and extort the US government.

tl;dr:
> Found nation on continent with high concentration of the most violent, toughest, most war-like human groups ever
> tfw no Apache Rifles
 
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Ghostse said:
Also because it emasculates the Indians.
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That's actually the most repulsive thing about "noble savage" bullshit. It completely denies the agency of non-white people, who often gave as good as they got way back when. They mainly lost because we had better technology, and at least part of that was pure luck and timing.
 
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AnOminous said:
That's actually the most repulsive thing about "noble savage" bullshit. It completely denies the agency of non-white people, who often gave as good as they got way back when.
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Even better, almost every single one of these groups has told them this but they continue listening to the grifters and frauds who promote it because it makes the "activists" feel good about themselves. You hear the same thing from other countries but the state-NGO industrial complex is impervious to it because it means they're useless (or worse) rather than important world savers.

Even most of the actual relevant academic fields are pretty open about this being debunked bullshit, though they may have to tread lightly and use certain wording to be PC/woke, but that's not what people want to hear.
 
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AnOminous said:
That's actually the most repulsive thing about "noble savage" bullshit. It completely denies the agency of non-white people, who often gave as good as they got way back when. They mainly lost because we had better technology, and at least part of that was pure luck and timing.
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That's like the sniveling about using Indian names for military vehicles and weapon systems.

They were the toughest motherfuckers out there. They handed the US military a lot of defeats.

We honor their warrior spirit by naming bad-ass military equipment after them.

Now, their descendants just sit in the casino crying about ebul huwyte man.
 
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White Devil said:
Has John revealed he's a Cherokee princess yet?
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I don't think he can since that clashes with...fuck, I've actually forgotten what bullshit the ghoul claimed as its parentage. Or rather, I've forgotten what actually was claimed vs. what the farms used to joke about being the reality, since we at least know Flynt came from old white money and pissed it all away by being a mentally deranged fuckhead nobody liked at Old Miss.
 
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Optimus Prime said:
I don't think he can since that clashes with...fuck, I've actually forgotten what bullshit the ghoul claimed as its parentage. Or rather, I've forgotten what actually was claimed vs. what the farms used to joke about being the reality, since we at least know Flynt came from old white money and pissed it all away by being a mentally deranged fuckhead nobody liked at Old Miss.
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He can do anything, he's a delusional troon.
 
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