Call of Duty Thread - Potential return to form? Or nothing but cope on the horizon? You decide!

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Agent Snigger said:
I have zero clue what BO4 even is honestly, not having a campaign essentially outside of zombies makes it hard for me to put into context with everything else, and even that barely gives you anything to go on
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It's Activision hitting the panic button and shoving a half-baked product out the door because SHG was fucking up everything they touched, while David Vonderhaar was simultaneously crawling up his own asshole and getting far too ambitious while failing to manage a growing company effectively. Don't overthink it.

LightDragonman1 said:
It’s a shame that the fanbase and the Battlefield fanboys turned Infinite Warfare into a laughing stock before it was even released.

I honestly think that it wasn’t all that bad, and heck, a sequel to it probably would do a whole lot better nowadays.
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Timing. Ghosts wasn't well-received, and while people didn't mind Advanced Warfare that much, people still wanted a proper follow-up to the 360-era CODs. So when IW came out, it was the third COD in a row to feature laser guns, exoskeletons, and other nonsense when we just wanted a game with M4s and army men already.
 
The Ugly One said:
it was the third COD in a row to feature laser guns, exoskeletons, and other nonsense when we just wanted a game with M4s and army men already.
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Well, MW2023 and even 2022 weren't received very well, so that isn't a formula for success either.
COD fans are no-skill retards that love complaining, so they deserve what they get: yet another half-finished nu-Black Ops slop and a heaping of more invasive personal privacy breaches and ridiculous microtransactions. BO4 rolls over any nu-COD game after 2019/Cold War and that game only had half a year of support/content since the main team was forced to finish Cold War for SHG halfway into the game's lifecycle. Everything else came from what was already finished and ready to be released or something hap-hazardly thrown together by interns and I still prefer that to the modern COD content.
 
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30+GameOvers said:
Well, MW2023 and even 2022 weren't received very well, so that isn't a formula for success either.
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This is like saying since your week-old cheeseburger made of rotting meat and served on a plate crawling with roaches wasn't well-received by restaurant patrons, this proves that cheeseburgers aren't what the customers want.
 
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30+GameOvers said:
BO3 wasn't about a rise of AI, it was about a rogue CIA experiment gone wrong and becoming sentient. If anything, the theme of BO3 was about transcending humanity via cybernetics, more akin to something like Ghost in the Shell or even something like NGE's LCL/Instrumentality if you take a look at the final level of the game.
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Yeah, I couldn't make any sense of what was happening beyond "machines have turned aware, you're not in control of yourself."

Rudy Coleman said:
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She looks like an android.
 
The Ugly One said:
This is like saying since your week-old cheeseburger made of rotting meat and served on a plate crawling with roaches wasn't well-received by restaurant patrons, this proves that cheeseburgers aren't what the customers want.
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COD players wanted their boots on the ground slop with M4s and Modern Warfare memberberries and they got it. I don't see a problem here
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Treyarch tried something new with BO4, it got universally shit on. Infinite Ward tried something new with Ghosts, it got universally shit on. Sledgehammer tried something new with Advanced Warfare, it got universally shit on. Even MW2019 got shit on for not being the exact same thing as the fans expected, even slight deviations from the formula result in stupid niggers raging at doors of all things 6 years later. COD fans get what they deserve, especially ones still playing this shit willingly.
The Last Stand said:
Yeah, I couldn't make any sense of what was happening beyond "machines have turned aware, you're not in control of yourself."
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There is no story, the whole plot twist is that everything that is happening is one last flash of conscience before your player dies(they actually do get murdered in the very first mission, that is the only mission that takes place in the real world). Even if we take the story at face value, past a certain point your player goes insane and goes on a suicide quest to stop the self aware AI from turning the rest of the world insane(or anyone connected to the DNI anyways), nothing related to the background wars or story development matters. Hardly original, but a breath of fresh air never the less, good message against trans-humanism or more relevant to today, keeping everything connected to the internet at all times and having all your devices auto-update. You never know when you get a bad update you can't opt out of, Deus Ex Human Revolution had a similar premise actually.
 
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30+GameOvers said:
Infinite Ward tried something new with Ghosts, it got universally shit on.
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The writing could've been better with the plot, but I wouldn't call Ghosts bad. I guess because it launched after Black Ops II, people expected more. The upcoming console generation didn't help much either.

30+GameOvers said:
You never know when you get a bad update you can't opt out of, Deus Ex Human Revolution had a similar premise actually.
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I would think when CoD does something "new," it still has to fit in a Call of Duty box. Example: one of the levels in Cold War allows you to walk around a building to obtain a key card. It ends the same way, but you could acquire the key card in more than one way. I think they call it an interactive sim.

Black Ops II tried multiple endings and player choice, but at the end of the day, it still has to confirm to a canon for the Black Ops saga. So now, you have future games retconning Black Ops II to where it almost feels meaningless other than fan service.
 
The Last Stand said:
The writing could've been better with the plot, but I wouldn't call Ghosts bad. I guess because it launched after Black Ops II, people expected more. The upcoming console generation didn't help much either.
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Don't get me wrong, the story and writing in Ghosts was bad, but everything else, including the world they set up, was fantastic. BO2 kiddies didn't like the game because it wasn't BO2.5, simple as. I remember the same complaints from them, word for word aside from the doors, as I've heard from MW2019, some things never change. Even less of a reason to feel any sympathy for them, they're finally getting what they want!(nothing but BO slop until it loses all flavor).
The Last Stand said:
Black Ops II tried multiple endings and player choice, but at the end of the day, it still has to confirm to a canon for the Black Ops saga. So now, you have future games retconning Black Ops II to where it almost feels meaningless other than fan service.
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That's an Activision problem for being so toothless. Nothing stopped them from making Ghosts an alternative universe when Menendez died and we see the aftermath of WW3 from MW3/BO2's ending(which would explain Federation's rise to power much more) but we can't have that, so it's a one-off game nobody remembers. We didn't see a connected multiverse until recently with Warzone, which is a huge wasted opportunity.
 
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Miller said:
Shouldn't SledgeHammer be the studio making a new CoD this year?
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Hopefully after a double whammy of Vanguard and MW2023, they're relegated back to being a support studio. It is telling that the next game didn't come from IW however, I have no clue what on earth they could be planning. If it was as simple as another MW reboot game they would just release it for easy money and then BO7 the year after that.
 
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30+GameOvers said:
Hopefully after a double whammy of Vanguard and MW2023, they're relegated back to being a support studio. It is telling that the next game didn't come from IW however, I have no clue what on earth they could be planning. If it was as simple as another MW reboot game they would just release it for easy money and then BO7 the year after that.
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they have had Treyarch and Infinity Ward do double-duty before, I think part of it is SHG being a bunch of cunts, ideally they would just make the Multiplayer a singular game like Warzone getting a major update every year but there's no way Microsoft is giving up that yearly revenue
 
Sledgehammer should not be allowed anywhere near the campaigns. They suck balls at it. Only one I've liked that they've done was Advanced Warfare, just for the stupidity of Kevin Spacey going nuts and trying to take over the world.

They should be stuck on multiplayer support at most.
 
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