Science Calling sickos "sickos" stigmatizes sickos - CNN objects to calling the sicko a sicko

Trump's language on school shooter's mental health could be harmful, experts say
Story highlights

• President Trump called the Parkland high school shooter a "sicko"
• Studies show that most people with mental illness are more likely to be victims, not perpetrators

(CNN)In a tweet Thursday, President Donald Trump described someone who would shoot up a school as a "savage sicko." At CNN's town hall on the Parkland, Florida, school shootings on Wednesday, NRA spokeswoman Dana Loesch described the gunman as "an insane monster" who is "nuts" and crazy." And at a White House briefing Thursday, the President again used the term "sicko."

The shooter, Nikolas Cruz, struggled with depression, attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder and autism, according to a 2016 Florida Department of Children and Families report. But having a mental health diagnosis does not mean he would become violent, many experts say. And although Trump has said he wants to focus on mental health to stop school shootings, calling Cruz a "sicko" doesn't help, those experts claim.

"When it comes to mental health, language really matters. This is not about being politically correct. It's about wanting to do everything we can to encourage people to get health treatment that works," said Ron Honberg, senior policy adviser with the National Alliance on Mental Illness.

Getting treatment is a challenge for the majority of people. Though 25% of the world's population has at one time experienced a mental or behavioral disorder, the

World Health Organization
says, only 44% of adults with diagnosable mental health problems and less than 20% of children and adolescents get the needed treatment, according to

MentalHealth.gov.
Studies have shown that people do not get help, in part, due to the stigma.


"Hearing language like this is a punch to the gut, particularly if we have a goal as a nation to increase access to mental health care," Honberg said. "This is about the worst thing you can do."

MentalHealth.gov, a federal website, cautions against using stigmatizing labels like "crazy."

"How helpful is calling a black person the n-word? Not only is it disrespectful, it fans racism," said Pat Corrigan, a distinguished professor of psychology at the Illinois Institute of Technology who manages the National Consortium on Stigma and Empowerment.

"Using such language when it comes to people with mental illness is the height of disrespect and the height of ignorance, as it reduces some hugely complex person down to a diagnosis."

Corrigan also points out that it's wrong for a politician to use someone like Cruz -- or Sandy Hook shooter Adam Lanza or any other school shooters -- to imply that someone with a mental illness diagnosis is more likely to be dangerous or violent.

"You have these people living on the streets, and I can say in many cases throughout the country, they are very dangerous and shouldn't be there," Trump said Thursday.

But studies show otherwise. The greater majority of people with a mental illness will never be violent, research has found; in fact, people with mental illness are much more likely to be victims of violence.

"Countless studies have shown that if you were going to predict who is most likely to be violent, mental illness falls way down the list. Age, gender, ethnicity is a much greater factor, and we wouldn't lock people up based on these qualities," Corrigan said.

One of the solutions, Trump suggests, is to institutionalize more people with mental illness.


"Part of the problem is, we used to have mental institutions, and I said this yesterday, we had a mental institution where you take a sicko, like this guy, he was a sick guy, so many signs, and you bring him to a mental health institution," he said. "We've got to get them out of our communities."

Evidence shows the contrary, however. Locking up people with mental illness for a long time is counterproductive, studies have found. "The best care is not locking someone away in a hospital. It's done in the community, where you can have treatment that will help you get back to school or to work," Corrigan said.

The American Psychological Association cautions that it is important to keep gun policy and mental health policy in distinct categories.

"Science shows the most consistent and powerful predictor of future violence is a history of violent behavior, not a diagnosable -- or diagnosed -- mental illness. The mental health needs of the country are separate from the issue of mass shootings," association CEO Arthur C. Evans Jr. said.

"People with mental illness account for a very small portion of incidents involving gun violence, and research has shown that individuals with mental illness are no more likely to become violent than individuals without mental illness," he said. "Involuntarily committing people with mental illness will not address our public health crisis of gun violence."

Violent murders by people with a mental diagnosis did not go up when large institutions in the United States and the UK were closed, said Diana Rose, a professor of user-led research who studies mental health at King's College London. "You cannot solve the problem by locking people up. It is just nonsense, and it destroys lives and is a deep form of social control, rather than provide people the support they need."

Rose said that calling the shooter a "sicko" is "insulting" and "mean-minded." She added that "it is almost impossible to predict, even if someone has a diagnosis, if they are going to be a risk" for violence.

"Evidence shows you would have to lock up thousands and thousands of people to prevent a very rare crime," Rose said. "It's a completely ridiculous solution."

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[Pickle Inspector]

This article is re’tarded and the author is a sicko.

I think I found a picture of the author:

 

[CWCissey]

I'm OK with this.

I always preferred calling people deviants anyway.

 

[RG 448]

Get fucked, CNN.

 

[DICKPICSRUS]

This article makes me sick, "people with mental illness are more likely to be victims" is bs. Nobody is saying that mentally ill fucks are always the perp, but the majority of school shootings are carried by people less than sane. Examples:
Columbine shooters: Antisocial personality and psychopathy
VA Tech
Sandy Hook
Northern Illnois
For non-school shootings:
Giffords shooting: Paranoid Schizophrenia
Aurora Shooting
What do all these shootings have in common? Mentally ill people. That's why we call those shooters "insane."
Also I feel the need to point out:

Professional my ass.

There is also the
San Ysidro McDonald's massacre

On July 15, 1984, three days before the shooting, Huberty commented to his wife, Etna, that he suspected he might have a mental problem.[1] Two days later, on July 17, he called a mental health clinic, requesting an appointment. Leaving his contact details with the receptionist, he was assured the clinic would return his call within hours. According to his wife, he sat quietly beside the telephone for several hours, awaiting the return call, before abruptly walking out of the family home and riding to an unknown destination on his motorcycle. Unbeknownst to Huberty, the receptionist had misspelled his name as "Shouberty". His polite demeanor conveyed no sense of immediate urgency to the operator; therefore, the call was logged as a "non-crisis" inquiry, to be handled within 48 hours.[2]

 

[Duke Nukem]

Another day, another attempt to shove a new, sinister strain of political correctness upon an unsuspecting populace.

 

[From The Uncanny Valley]

Horrifyingly, when I was in high school, our student council twice a year would hold a "Stop the Stigma" week which was not only all about this bullshit but subtly dropped hints that it was okay for the mentally ill to not get treatment by saying "mental illness is okay, it's part of who you are". All attempts to talk sense into anyone were met with being called a bigot.

~therapy is violence~

 

[Doc Cassidy]

If the mentally ill aren't any more likely to be violent then wouldn't preventing them from buying guns be a violation of their civil rights?

 

[Alec Benson Leary]

Is it really offensive to the poor shooter who may have been mentally ill? Was Trump not compassionate enough to his plight?

What was feminism's response when people suggested Elliott Rodger was mentally ill again?

 

[Gay Kenshiro]

Right, because everyone knows shooting random people is an action associated with someone in their right state of mind and capable of thinking things through, not obviously mentally fucked crazies who get stopped by shatter proof windows.

 

[Duke Nukem]

Is it really offensive to the poor shooter who may have been mentally ill? Was Trump not compassionate enough to his plight?

What was feminism's response when people suggested Elliott Rodger was mentally ill again?

1. Trump could never satisfy his detractors if he went full vegan, sold all his assets, gave away his every dollar to leftard causes, and converted to Islam when he was done making himself destitute.

2. REEEEEEE PATRIARCHY REEEEEEEE

 

[Feline Darkmage]

You can't offend someone who's dead, so call them a fucking "sicko".

"Sicko" is some weakass shit to say though. I'm surprise Trump didn't just blast him with, "Window-licking Hillary voter" or something tbh.

For once I agree with Donald Trump, but the thing is, the guy who did it is such a piece of shit that he doesn't deserve anything but the obligatory prejorative label of "sicko". He's scum and doesn't deserve to be anything but a passing memory. He died as he lived - an inconsequential fuck-up that should be forgotten by the public. What we should remember are the victims, not the trash that killed them.

Nikolas Jacob Cruz was apprehended alive and is currently in the slow slog through the court system being held without bail.

 

[Trilby]

Nikolas Jacob Cruz was apprehended alive and is currently in the slow slog through the court system being held without bail.

Hopefully a life without parole sentence is in the near future.

 

[TowinKarz]

There's an anti trump angle to everything, the questuon is, should you really use it?

 

[polonium]

Only nignogs and registered democrats can be mentally ill when they murder people. Regular white folk are just bad.

CNN have gone so far "full retard" that you can be right almost 100% of the time by simply taking the oposite position to whatever they're trying to push.

 

[Wallace]

1. Trump could never satisfy his detractors if he went full vegan, sold all his assets, gave away his every dollar to leftard causes, and converted to Islam when he was done making himself destitute.

2. REEEEEEE PATRIARCHY REEEEEEEE

I'm still waiting for him to tweet "Breathing Makes America Great Again!" and seeing how many people asphyxiate themselves with plastic bags over their heads.

 

[Positron]

What was feminism's response when people suggested Elliott Rodger was mentally ill again?

It is exactly the feminist narrative that Rodger was not mentally ill, just an "average Joe" drunk on misogyny. This way all men are potentially dangerous and all women are perpetually victimized.

I'm still waiting for him to tweet "Breathing Makes America Great Again!" and seeing how many people asphyxiate themselves with plastic bags over their heads.

But...but...ma Paris Agreement!!!

 

[SeaPancake]

Nikolas Jacob Cruz was apprehended alive and is currently in the slow slog through the court system being held without bail.

Fuck, my mistake.

It is exactly the feminist narrative that Rodger was not mentally ill, just an "average Joe" drunk on misogyny. This way all men are potentially dangerous and all women are perpetually victimized.

I just did a quick search about the kid just to refresh my memory and yeah, the kid was most likely someone with autism or *something* that just made him awkward as hell. His inability to learn how to relate to people and the bullying he received, as well as his interest in girls who rebuffed him (he didn't follow the advice of friends on how to approach girls) turned his sorrow into anger.

This isn't to say that every single person will turn out like he did, but there are people who turn that sadness into anger instead of more sadness. Didn't help that he was frequenting those subreddits that were simply cesspools of misogyny and generalization of women and "oh woe is me for not getting a girl and fuck all the whores out there for being in relationships with guys who respect them and don't creep them out."

 

[Xerxes IX]

If mental illness truly wasn't the problem and evil white men with guns were the real problem, why isn't there a mass shooting every day? There are far more white men with guns than people wrong enough in the head to commit mass murder.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

Normal people don't go into a school and kill 17 people for no reason. Even gang members kill people for a reason.

Horrifyingly, when I was in high school, our student council twice a year would hold a "Stop the Stigma" week which was not only all about this bullshit but subtly dropped hints that it was okay for the mentally ill to not get treatment by saying "mental illness is okay, it's part of who you are". All attempts to talk sense into anyone were met with being called a bigot.

During those weeks, were autists and tards allowed free reign to grope people and run around naked without the tard wranglers stopping them?

 

[Dysnomia]

Hey, you call a spade a spade. Unless he's black. Then that's racist.

Censoring language doesn't solve problems. It's just a clear bandaid. You can still see the festering wound underneath. But hey, feelings are spared so it's all good.

Many many people suffer from depression, ADHD and autism and never even think of killing anyone. He's not a sicko because he suffered from those issues. He's a sicko because he murdered 17 people. Some of his victims were only 14 years old. Don't sugar coat it because it's trendy to give autistic behaviors a pass. If anything he makes autistics look bad because of what he did.