US Can Dems Save Themselves by Spending $20M on ‘Speaking With American Men’? - Democrats spend 20 million in order to not learn the lesson that they need to drop the idpol stuff

In the aftermath of Donald Trump’s morbidly authoritarian return to the White House, several members of the Democratic Party elite have been pitching plans and multimillion-dollar ideas for how to win back young male voters, many of whom spurned Democrats last fall.

One of these proposals, “Speaking With American Men: A Strategic Plan,” went viral after receiving a brief shout-out in The New York Times on Sunday. Described as a $20 million effort to “study the syntax, language and content that gains attention and virality” in male-dominated spaces online (such as video games), the “SAM” fundraising pitch was roasted by everyone from left-wing podcasters to Kamala Harris 2024 operatives to Joe Biden’s former Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg, who discussed the proposal with The Bulwark.

After days of watching derisive comments pile up online and on TV (including on Fox News), and joking among ourselves about starting a competing “Speaking to Dudes” plan for only $19 million (codename: “STD”), Rolling Stone decided to get to the bottom of questions that until now remained publicly unanswered, including: Who or what is “SAM,” and who is actually running this thing?

Our reporting soon led us to the names of two Democratic Party heavy hitters running the “SAM Project,” as well as to some of the national party’s stalwarts who offered preemptive, hefty derision toward the new effort.

Certain details of this project had been circulating in Democratic circles for weeks. One Democrat who received the fundraising prospectus says that they saw it, skimmed it, then closed it immediately because what they had seen seemed so “fucking stupid.”

Still, we wanted to see for ourselves, so we reached out to the two key figures behind the SAM Project to learn more about it and review its much-discussed fundraising prospectus (embedded below). The group also shared with us its 31-page presentation titled “How to Stop Losing the Culture Wars — and Win Back Men.”

“Speaking With American Men” is being led by Ilyse Hogue, the former president of the abortion rights group NARAL Pro-Choice America, and John Della Volpe, director of polling at the Harvard Kennedy School’s Institute of Politics and an adviser to Biden’s 2020 campaign. The project’s fundraising pitch lists former Rep. Colin Allred (D-Texas), a one-time NFL player who lost a Senate race to Ted Cruz last year, as part of the SAM Project team.

In a joint interview today with Rolling Stone, Della Volpe and Hogue wanted to clarify a few things. (Yes, they have seen the mean social media posts.)

For one thing, they stress that the $20 million they set out to raise is for a two-year budget, which would be dedicated to not just research, but also for outreach, organizing efforts, and communications. The group intends to study and engage niche communities popular with young men of different races and backgrounds, including in forums and spaces focused on video games, cryptocurrencies, fitness, and DIY videos.

The point of the project, they explain, is to listen to “a cohort of young people who don’t feel like the Democratic Party hears them or cares about them,” as Della Volpe puts it. He says Democrats’ failure in 2024 was about “over relying on analytics and not listening to people,” and that the Harris campaign did “something that no other [Democratic] campaign this century has done, which is to not optimize young people.”

Hogue and Della Volpe both sought to warn Democrats last year about their growing problems with men, particularly younger men. Hogue wrote several pieces for The Bulwark last year about Trump’s appeals to young men and Democrats’ “male voter problem.” Della Volpe wrote an op-ed for the Times about how Trump was successfully “exploiting the fears and insecurities of young men.”

Their SAM Project is not just a fundraising pitch — it’s happening. Without saying how much money they’ve raised, Hogue confirms they’ve received “initial investment in the work that we’re doing and a lot of interest, honestly, in the research that is coming out of it.” Over the past two months, Della Volpe’s research firm conducted 30 focus groups among men ages 18-29.

“This level of listening is something that these young men have expressed explicitly that they have been waiting for for a long time,” says Hogue, adding that “$20 million seems like actually a drop in the bucket when you think about what is being spent over … a two-year cycle on speaking to voters. It actually feels pretty modest when you think about by how much we lost this group and how much we have to make up ground.”

The SAM Project says it is being fiscally sponsored by Democracy Matters, a Washington-based nonprofit with ties to David Brock’s liberal American Bridge network.

While some of the planks in the SAM Project documents risk coming off as ham-fisted (“Develop, disseminate, and test high-quality, meme-friendly content”), the group aspires to engage with real problems, such as how the right radicalizes men via online platforms — “utilizing the algorithms to cycle them into a right-wing funnel.”

It also highlights key financial concerns that young men face in today’s society: “job security, home ownership, wage growth, and affordable education/trade programs.” The prospectus seeks to “highlight the ways in which billionaire-backed culture war distractions serve as a smokescreen to divert attention from economic inequality, stagnating wages, and corporate exploitation.”

The SAM Project’s presentation notes that young men recognize that “institutions have failed them.” They feel “let down by politics, education, law enforcement, and labor systems.” They “don’t believe Democrats fight for them, but many don’t think Republicans care either.” And they have “learned to expect neglect, not support.”

The presentation says that “economic insecurity cuts across income and identity,” and young men are “overwhelmed by the cost of living, the instability of work, and the distance between what was promised and what’s real.”

On the other hand, the SAM Project’s financial solutions, as described in the fundraising prospectus, seem fairly small ball: “expanded child tax credits, homebuyer incentives, and workforce training.” Democrats’ 2024 platform, which failed to drive necessary support among young men, already contained references to such items. (The SAM Project team advises developing “specific language” to frame these policies “as a path to economic empowerment rather than government dependency,” which almost sounds like a conservative talking point.)

Asked about the fact that Democrats had already pitched similar ideas during the Harris campaign, Hogue says it’s impossible for the party to “build trust” around their economic policies “if you’re not in the spaces [where] people are debating them far in advance of the election, and the Democrats were completely absent from those spaces.”

Hogue says there are areas where many young men agree with Democrats, such as on social issues, as well as on economic policies, but the latter are “not being emphasized.” She explains that “unless the Democrats are saying these are top priorities because they affect young men, which they really were not, then that’s not going to resonate as much as it could.”

The SAM Project presentation indicates that many young men view Democrats as weak — and “want leadership that signals strength, clarity, and follow-through — especially in a world that feels unstable and demanding.” The document says there appears to be some level of “generational tolerance for authoritarian tendencies,” relating in part to institutions that aren’t working for them.

Hogue says that, in their research so far, what they’ve been hearing from people is that “‘Democrats don’t care about us, [and] even if they did care about us, they’re weak. They can’t get anything done. And that is an issue — that is a gap, a chasm, that needs to be addressed.”

The presentation quotes a Hispanic man from a rural background saying of Trump: “I think he has that strong man, you know, vibe that definitely a lot of guys, you know, like or relate to. I think people view him as, you know, kinda tearing down the structures that maybe they feel haven’t helped them.”

The duo fronting SAM are acutely aware that they have, even at this early stage, their fair share of intra-party critics who appear far from being won over. Several of these SAM Project skeptics are not mincing words, either.

“I think both Ilyse and John are smart, talented operatives who have very good intentions. I think broadly, writ large — and this is hardly unique to Ilyse and John — it is beyond embarrassing that in the year 2025, the Democratic Party wants to spend tens of millions of dollars to figure out how to talk to half of the population. It really isn’t that hard,” says Ammar Moussa, formerly the rapid response director for Harris’ 2024 campaign. “This really isn’t rocket science. We’re treating young men and working-class voters like they’re foreign aliens who just visited Earth who are speaking a different language. And to some degree, we are [speaking a different language], for a multitude of reasons — mostly because the Democratic Party is staffed with operatives who no longer reflect what the electorate looks like anymore. And that’s a problem.”

But, Moussa adds: “This isn’t a zoo!”

The Democrat who received the SAM Project’s prospectus, and who requested anonymity, says: “What pissed me off is that we’re doing all this research trying to find out the right combination of words to try to get them to like us, rather than understanding what their struggles and dreams are, and what they want out of life, and meeting them there.” This person also argues that multimillion-dollar fundraising efforts such as this run the risk of siphoning “money from organizations actually doing the work.”

One other Democratic recipient of the fundraising document says the pitch — particularly things like the use of word “syntax” — made the project read as broadly “condescending” to young American men. The price tag of $20 million also seemed “way too expensive,” this source says, referring to the idea of conducting a “safari-type study” of young male voters “as if they are a different species” as “insulting … why do this?”

But Hogue and Della Volpe contend that the issue is that there simply aren’t enough effective messengers or committed Democrats actually doing the work in these spaces, and that any liberal consultants or Democratic officials saying otherwise are fooling themselves.

In Hogue’s view: “‘Syntax’ is obviously sort of an academic word, but the way that breaks down for me is, when I, in the summer of 2024, was saying, ‘Hey guys, we have a problem. Trump just did a town hall on Kick with Adin Ross,’ and Democratic operatives were saying to me, ‘I don’t understand a single word you’re saying,’ that is a problem. When I wrote a piece earlier that year about the intentionality of RFK Jr. doing his failed presidential launch, bench-pressing shirtless in jeans, which was a direct line to the red-pill fitness channels, online Democratic operatives looked at me and said, ‘I’ve never heard of red-pill fitness.’ So they are free to suggest that the focus on language is a problem, but they don’t understand the language that people are speaking in the spaces where they are absent.”

“The solution is not wordsmithing our way to better slogans,” says Della Volpe, arguing that he and critics of the SAM Project likely “feel the same way around understanding values and experiences. There’s a misrepresentation, I think, of what the project is about.”

Here’s the SAM prospectus. See for yourself what all the hullabaloo was about:

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/25955887-sam-plan/#document/p1

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They don’t even know what men are. They and the society they created made this entire new type of man that didn’t used to exist - the Reddit/soy type life form. It’s not really a man, it might be shaped like one but it has all the worst bits of female personality baked in, like bitchiness, Treachery and cunning. They removed the better bits of the male personality and left in the sex obsession, and the desire to get their way but using the female type of control to get it rather than the male way.
That’s the kind of men they’ll talk to. They don’t want to talk to any icky plumbers or bin men or roughnecks.
Anyway men, you’re not doing manliness right, don’t you know? Your concerns are invalid and you should be right on board with our agenda. But since you aren’t we are here to lecture you a bit harder, er I mean listen to you
 
PSA: some scrotes on the online say the dem Expert On Men is a lesbian. She isn't. [A]

No amount of money can convince them that communism is gay and that Americans are not on board.
Communism is anti-gay, we imprisoned fags for five years and put loud dykes in asylums for two. It is however un-American, you people are culturally unfit for Communism.
 
Why would most men vote for someone who hates them simply for having a dick and balls? Dems want to "redefine masculinity ". Do they really think that is what men want? By trying to change their nature? Not to mention Dems want to let anyone in without a background check and gives kids sex changes. I do hope they find a fun way to waste that $20 million.
 
This is who the Dems are going to use to win back chuds, Olivia Julianna
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Here's her political talking points, where she tries to convince men to support abortion or else you have to support the woman or the child
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Is so fucking Joever
I just love how they keep assuming that raising the minimum wage would help men, even though most men don’t make minimum wage and most women want a man who makes six figures a year.

Matt Walsh actually did a response to this, and as much of a boomer con he is, he actually hit the nail on the head. She’s projecting her beliefs onto men she may or may not have met.

 
We really need to spend millions of dollars to consider not telling men they're the source of American society's woes by virtue of their sex/gender while paying more attention to their concerns? The dismantling of multi-tiered justice systems à la DEI would make them slightly more receptive to whatever message Democrats are trying to put forth.
that's not what it's about lol
they're not considering any new policy, all they want to do with this project is figure out new and improved propaganda methods to make people accept their old policy
 
Certain details of this project had been circulating in Democratic circles for weeks. One Democrat who received the fundraising prospectus says that they saw it, skimmed it, then closed it immediately because what they had seen seemed so “fucking stupid.”
Yeah, talking to arguable the most important demo of all is stupid.
This is why you morons lost everything.
“Speaking With American Men” is being led by Ilyse Hogue, the former president of the abortion rights group NARAL Pro-Choice America, and John Della Volpe, director of polling at the Harvard Kennedy School’s Institute of Politics and an adviser to Biden’s 2020 campaign.
I don't trust these people but let's see....
The group intends to study and engage niche communities popular with young men of different races and backgrounds, including in forums and spaces focused on video games, cryptocurrencies, fitness, and DIY videos.
Well, at least these people want to actually go to where men are and find out what they're about.
Most Dems just call them sexist and move on.
The point of the project, they explain, is to listen to “a cohort of young people who don’t feel like the Democratic Party hears them or cares about them,”
Because it doesn't care and everyone knows.
He says Democrats’ failure in 2024 was about “over relying on analytics and not listening to people,” and that the Harris campaign did “something that no other [Democratic] campaign this century has done, which is to not optimize young people.”
Seems to make sense so far.
Over the past two months, Della Volpe’s research firm conducted 30 focus groups among men ages 18-29.
I bet that's more than the Harris campaign did during the entire election cycle.
While some of the planks in the SAM Project documents risk coming off as ham-fisted (“Develop, disseminate, and test high-quality, meme-friendly content”), the group aspires to engage with real problems, such as how the right radicalizes men via online platforms — “utilizing the algorithms to cycle them into a right-wing funnel.”
Ham-fisted according to which people?
The ones who went all in on supporting troons and illegals?
It also highlights key financial concerns that young men face in today’s society: “job security, home ownership, wage growth, and affordable education/trade programs.”
That too but if there is a culture of "men are useless and need to fuck off", men won't have all these things, even if they can get them.
If they don't feel appreciated and they don't think they will ever have a family, these financial incentives mean nothing because men can live for very little and be fine.
The prospectus seeks to “highlight the ways in which billionaire-backed culture war distractions serve as a smokescreen to divert attention from economic inequality, stagnating wages, and corporate exploitation.”
LOL look at this bitch trying to get Dems to stop engaging in identity politics.
Good luck with that.
Hogue says there are areas where many young men agree with Democrats, such as on social issues, as well as on economic policies, but the latter are “not being emphasized.” She explains that “unless the Democrats are saying these are top priorities because they affect young men, which they really were not, then that’s not going to resonate as much as it could.”
Yeah, this is an issue with Dems since 2015.
They focus on skin color and shit instead of on real issues.
Hogue says that, in their research so far, what they’ve been hearing from people is that “‘Democrats don’t care about us, [and] even if they did care about us, they’re weak. They can’t get anything done. And that is an issue — that is a gap, a chasm, that needs to be addressed.”
Are those men wrong?
the Democratic Party wants to spend tens of millions of dollars to figure out how to talk to half of the population. It really isn’t that hard,” says Ammar Moussa, formerly the rapid response director for Harris’ 2024 campaign.
Oh yeah it's so fucking easy.... bitch, you were a higher up in the worst fucking US political campaign in my lifetime.
Why didn't you do it if it was so easy?
“This really isn’t rocket science. We’re treating young men and working-class voters like they’re foreign aliens who just visited Earth who are speaking a different language.
No, you are the aliens.
People look at Dems and see weirdos across the board who are concerned with trans representation instead of actual issues.
The price tag of $20 million also seemed “way too expensive,” this source says, referring to the idea of conducting a “safari-type study” of young male voters “as if they are a different species” as “insulting … why do this?”
Why do this?
Because you need to do this or else you will never win elections again.
 
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I just love how they keep assuming that raising the minimum wage would help men, even though most men don’t make minimum wage and most women want a man who makes six figures a year.

Matt Walsh actually did a response to this, and as much of a boomer con he is, he actually hit the nail on the head. She’s projecting her beliefs onto men she may or may not have met.

Why is she so fat? Absurd anyone like this gets listened to about anything. Can't stop stuffing her face but we trust her to have the discipline to research a topic or do a job? I think not
 
Moving back to the policy of liberal universalism that they succeeded with under Clinton and Obama would probably be a good tactical move for the dems. They used to have this "we're all in this together, a rising tide lifts all boats" attitude. They abandoned it for a zero sum game of identity group against identity group, and that has alienated a lot of people. The smart thing to do would be to go back to the old strategy
The problem is they've ripped the mask off. People are going to see a pivot back to common sense middle of the road politics for what it is: a cynical attempt to get their vote.
 
If you have to ask, no. Democrats when talking to men sound like aliens trying to be humans. Remember when they treated Walz as a "masculine candidate" and kept saying how Walz knows how to talk to men? Man didn't even know simple football terms, and came across more like a mockery. There's no one from the Democrats who don't sound like HR ladies. Even if they renounce their wokeness, anyone can pull up an ad from years ago and destroy a campaign. If you are considering the fat Illinois governor as a "good" candidate when Illinois loses population every year or Walz, it's a sign you should start the party allover
 
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