Science Can we have an open debate about IQ, genes, and group differences? - If only null would give us our rainbows back


Ionce spoke to a human geneticist who declared that the notion of intelligence was quite meaningless, so I tried calling him unintelligent. He was annoyed …
– Nobel Prize laureate, Peter Medawar
Of all the endless nature vs nurture arguments, the debate over intelligence and ‘race’ is the most toxic. It also seeps over into wider unease with human genetic research; the fear, for example, that recent advances in ancient human DNA analysis can be used by those with nefarious intentions to resurrect problematic ‘race’ folk theories.

Given this seeming potential for reviving damaging beliefs, some scholars question whether “we would be better off to give up on particular lines of research” in the human sciences, including “the quest to trace patterns of human migration.” Others, meanwhile, argue for “tighter restrictions” on research into cognitive differences between different human populations. That said, the impetus to explore our ancestral evolution and its impacts remains an essential scientific pursuit, as it is at the backbone of research exploring how human differences impact disease and potential targeted cures.

Such arguments about ‘race’, intelligence and possible censorship were of particular concern to US-born and educated New Zealand scientist and intelligence researcher James Flynn, who died in December 2020, aged 86. Flynn was the IQ debate’s great scholarly champion of environment over genes, known for his respectful rebuke of scholars who took a more deterministic view of the complex relationship of intelligence, genes, and the environment.

IQ and tests​

This century-long debate flared in 1969 following the publication of an article in the Harvard Educational Review, in which psychologist Arthur Jensen claimed that observed IQ differences between Blacks and Whites was due mainly to genetics. Jensen further argued for a reset on the poverty reforms that were then rolling out under the Johnson Administration, arguing that compensatory education programs that assumed racial groups were ‘blank slates’ with environment alone the only detriment to equality of performance—Head Start, for example—were destined to fail.

The article caused an uproar that still rages. Jensen, who died in 2012, was widely denounced as a racist, particularly in the popular press and by social scientists. Instead, Jensen’s critics maintained that environmental factors rather than genes passed along in ancestral cohorts almost entirely explained racial disparities in test scores, a radical environmentalist position that few hard scientists hold today.

This was also when the movement to end the use of IQ tests first emerged. Today, persistent differences in SAT or ACT results among races have been cited as a reason to stop using the exam in college admissions. Last May, many University of California colleges announced they was scrapping its SAT or ACT requirement, as have many other American universities.

Flynn vs Jensen​

Having migrated to New Zealand in 1963 “to escape the political repression of the McCarthy era”, Flynn, now based at the University of Otago in Dunedin, responded skeptically to Jensen’s claims. And understandably so. For instance, how could Jensen explain away Flynn’s voluminous documentation that IQ scores among racial and ethnic groups world-wide have risen considerably from one generation to the next? In the 20th century, Flynn discovered, the scores of entire countries rose by more than the Black-White disparity in the entire US. How could that be if IQ was genetically ‘fixed’? He summarized much of this research in a ground-breaking response to Jensen published in 1980.

In 1987, in an article in American Psychologist, Jensen praised Flynn’s criticism of his own work:

… I am asked by colleagues, students, and journalists: who, in my opinion, are the most respectable critics of my position on the race-IQ issue? The name James R. Flynn is by far the first that comes to mind. His book, Race, IQ and Jensen (1980), is a distinguished contribution to the literature on this topic, and, among the critiques I have seen of my position, is virtually in a class by itself for objectivity, thoroughness, and scholarly integrity.
In a study released in 2006, Flynn and a co-author, William Dickens, concluded that Black Americans had gained as many as seven IQ points on Whites since the early 1970s and into the 1990s, a finding that is hard to explain if intelligence is genetically fixed. The theory that Flynn developed was dubbed “The Flynn Effect” by scholars Richard Hernnstein and Charles Murray, co-authors of The Bell Curve: Intelligence and class structure in American life, the 1994 tome that faced similar harsh criticism as Jensen’s earlier expressed views.

In the decades since, numerous explanations of the Flynn effect have been proposed, as well as some skepticism about what has driven it and its implications. For example, there is intense debate about whether the rise in IQ scores corresponds to a rise in general intelligence or only a rise in special skills related to taking IQ tests, as schools have been turned into test-taking hot houses, in part because teacher salaries and administrative jobs are often tied to raising test scores.

Others argue that the Flynn Effect’s observed gains in IQ over time are unrelated to ‘g’ (also known as ‘general intelligence’) that many psychometricians believe is a fairly unchangeable mental capacity. (‘g’-scores are used in many professions to predict performance; e.g., the US military and even the National Football League, with its Wonderlic test, utilize g-weighted tests in their evaluations).

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In parallel with the measured gains in IQ scores, long-term declines have been found for “mental speed, digit span backwards, the use of difficult words, and color acuity, all of which are related to intelligence.” More recently, the Flynn effect appears to be fading, as the IQ measure distance between some populations and others has grown. Research suggests that there is now a decline in IQ scores, in Norway, Denmark, Australia, Britain, the Netherlands, Sweden, Finland, France and German-speaking countries, a development which appears to have started in the 1990s. The Flynn effect appeared to have most influenced people born during the mid-1970s (co-incidentally a period of dramatic social transformation on racial issues), and has significantly declined ever since.

Flynn himself relished the debates that his research had stimulated. A life-long social democrat, he was outspoken in defence of free speech, including the right — indeed, the desirability — of open and honest debate on possible group differences in intelligence.

And this willingness to engage with those holding different opinions readily explains the reaction to news of Flynn’s death by his peers. Cognitive psychologist Steven Pinker, a sharp critic of ‘blank slate’ post-modernist critical theory, immediately expressed sadness at the passing of a “defender of Enlightenment ideals”. Of particular note was the response of The Bell Curve co-author and conservative political scientist Charles Murray:

By America’s current standards of academic discourse, Jim Flynn and I should have been at each other’s throats,” Murray said. “We did in fact have different perspectives, though more nuanced than most people thought.
But those differences hadn’t the slightest effect on Jim’s collegiality toward me or any of the people with whom he disagreed. … How else are you going to learn, Jim thought, except by engaging with people who see things differently? … Jim represented what a scholar is supposed to be—open, curious, passionate about his beliefs but without either self-righteousness or rancor, determined above all else to get it right.

Unfortunately, while scholars are supposed to be open and curious, much of the passion and argument over ‘race’ and IQ has been self-righteous and rancorous. As Flynn himself readily acknowledged, those least open to discussion and most ready to censor opposing opinions, frequently came from his own leftist end of the political spectrum.

These were the ones, he argued, “who boycott debate” and “put their money on indoctrination and intimidation”, thereby “forfeit[ing] a chance to persuade”. (Here, Flynn’s position reflects characterizations of critical theory proponents that conservatives see as promoters of ‘cancel culture’.)

How to argue with a racist​

In his recent bestselling book, How to Argue With a Racist, geneticist Adam Rutherford emphasises the need “to equip [people] with the scientific tools necessary to tackle questions on race, genes and ancestry” and “to provide a foundation to contest racism that appears to be grounded in science”.

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Jim Flynn, too, had long pointed to this danger — that without an understanding of the scientific arguments, “humane-egalitarian” idealists would flounder against informed and articulate racists.

Censoring debate about the subject would then be doubly counter-productive, further removing the knowledge needed to challenge genuinely racist arguments or, more importantly, the political conclusions that arise from racist misinterpretations of human biological research. That’s the thrust of the argument made in GLP founder’s Jon Entine controversial but critically-praised book, 2000 Taboo: Why Black Athletes Dominate Sports and Why We are Afraid to Talk About Them, in which he wrote:

Although discussing racial differences is likely to provoke strong reactions, on balance and in proper context strong emotions are healthy. …
The “why” of human differences–black/white, male/female, Italian/Irish, between Slavic ethnic groups or one African tribe and another–is likely to remain only crudely measurable. Race–marked by skin color, ethnicity, and geography–is a fuzzy concept. …The challenge is in whether we can conduct the debate so that human diversity might be cause for celebration of our individuality rather than fanning distrust.
In one of his last essays on this topic, Flynn re-emphasised what “Those who want to forbid discussion and scientific investigation ignore”, for instance, the ability to defend your position with facts “rather than just right opinion” and the opportunity to hone your argument by having its weaknesses revealed. “[T]ruth gains vitality from being challenged rather than being an unquestioned inheritance,” he argued.

To kill an idea is to forfeit all rewards that may flow from reaction to that idea. If I had not read about [research into group differences], with its emphasis on IQ and the general intelligence factor, I would never have documented massive IQ gain over time, or urged a revolution in the theory of intelligence, or connected cognitive gains and moral gains …
In contrast to Flynn, those who argue against open discussion of contentious science fear it will breathe new life into socially harmful ideas, akin to publicising the details of how to build “massively destructive bombs” or to create “deadly viruses”. And on their side of the argument is the undeniable fact that past beliefs about racial superiority/inferiority caused incalculable harm.

Nevertheless, the analogy with socially destructive bombs and viruses implies that everyone, regardless of existing political beliefs or values, would suffer through public debate of sensitive issues. Yet is this really the case? If, for example, evidence of genetic differences between racial populations was more widely discussed, would this inevitably lead more people to become racists? We believe not; the egalitarian moral belief that people should be treated equally is not dependent on people actually being equal in all respects.

Of course, given the odious history of twisted interpretations of Darwinian theories of ‘race’, some form of use or abuse analysis of proposed research is warranted. As part of this, though, the detrimental consequences of creating taboos on discussion must also be taken into account (for instance, conceding the argument to racist ideologues who may present themselves as simply telling the unpalatable ‘truth’ that others are too scared to discuss).

In the absence of a scientifically accurate account of racial diversity, we cannot adequately challenge pseudo-scientific racist arguments. In addition, avoiding discussion of human biological diversity may limit our understanding of the genetic basis of disease and hamper medical research that could improve peoples’ lives.

Genes do not determine values or identity​

The problem here is egalitarians tying their political values to actual facts about human biology; the mistaken belief that moral equality is dependent on all people being biologically or psychologically the same. Yet as Pinker argued in The Blank Slate: The modern denial of human nature, when scientific evidence appears to conflict with political values, “people are tempted to suppress the facts and to clamp down on debate … leav[ing] us unequipped to deal with just those problems for which new facts and analyses are most needed”.screen shot at am

Geneticist David Reich has made much the same point about those who decry genetic research into human diversity as inherently racist. The “well-meaning people” who deny likely genetic differences between different human populations, Reich suggested, “are digging themselves into an indefensible position, one that will not survive the onslaught of science”.

And Flynn too emphasises where attempts at censorship miss their mark: “Suppressing free inquiry is by its nature an expressive of contempt for truth by power. The truth can never be racist.”

With regard to intelligence research, far from being ‘massively destructive’, such studies could, in future, prove hugely beneficial, especially in education. Without a clear understanding of human cognitive development, and how it is determined by both genes and environment, we are hamstrung in our attempts to improve an existing education system that persistently frustrates so many. Indeed, by ignoring the biological side of the interplay between genes and environment, we may be simply setting up many young people to fail, generation after generation. Those promoting practical uses of “personal genomics,” for instance, see the potential for tailoring education to reflect the needs and the abilities of individual learners, rather than forcing all learners into a one-size-fits-all system.

As for Flynn, he admitted to having “no illusions … that the debate over race and IQ will end.

And I do not deny that it could have social and political consequences. Perhaps someday we will conclude that a portion of the present gap will prove to be genetic in origin. I do not want to sugar the pill but will only say I am not too alarmed.
Yet even if the “worst case scenario” of ineluctable differences in cognitive ability proved to be the case (which is far from certain), this does not destroy the humane-egalitarian desire to create a better future society. After all, if everyone had a decent standard of living, much of the heat linking biology with racial inequality would fade — a point Flynn illustrated with joking reference to his own Irish ancestry:

Assume that the lower job profile of Irish Americans compared to Chinese Americans is due in part to genes: I do not know one Irishman who cares (the English would be a different matter).
For the first time in history science, promises a glimpse of how the world’s different populations — popularly and simplistically called races — have evolved. Going forward, the tsunami of information genetic research is now unlocking will revolutionize medicine, as we develop targeted, personalized response to diseases based on individual and group inheritance. Research on the brain is just part of that mostly-promising and optimistic enterprise.

In his reflections on Human Diversity, a book that came out shortly before Flynn’s death, Charles Murray pointedly suggested that many of those most opposed to research on the brain and IQ mistakenly equate human intelligence with human worth. That’s understandable. With these caveats in mind, it is perhaps fitting here to leave the last word to Murray, Flynn’s supposed great adversary: in losing Jim Flynn, he says, “We have lost an exemplar”.
 
There's no actual debate to be had on the question of 'Are there group differences'. Because the answer is yes, and yes they are significant, and yes they track for life outcome, and socioeconomic success, and criminality. Intelligence and its links are old and pretty well understood.

The real shit we should be looking at are things like in group preferences, agreeableness, disgust reactions and other such things that we're not sure are heavily heritable. They're far more important than 'Yes, retards shouldn't be rocket scientists'; but until we acknowledge that retards exist, and race exists, and they matter; we can't actually get anything done on fixing things.
Almost all traits are at least 50% heritable with most of of them being more than that. I'm sure I've read something about agreeableness specifically.

Studying in group prerences is highly antisemitic and racist so those will not be studied. If you buy the high askhenazi intelligence numbers their overrepresentation in some areas leave in group preference as the only reasonable explanation and since almost all other traits are at least 50% heritable i have no doubt of the outcoume if such things were studied.

I did read about some computer modeling where some guy had simple modeled organisms where there were altruistic and in group ones. Even with in group preference at low values after introducing something like a few percent ingroup organisms to the altruistic ones they were the majority every time after a 100 generations. The altruistic orgsnisms had no way of detecting or punishing the in group ones. Funnily enough we're legaly and culturally prohibited from doing that so the model is amusingly accurate in that aspect.

My memory is hazy so I might over or understate the numbers i mention above.
 
Almost all traits are at least 50% heritable with most of of them being more than that. I'm sure I've read something about agreeableness specifically.

Studying in group prerences is highly antisemitic and racist so those will not be studied. If you buy the high askhenazi intelligence numbers their overrepresentation in some areas leave in group preference as the only reasonable explanation and since almost all other traits are at least 50% heritable i have no doubt of the outcoume if such things were studied.

I did read about some computer modeling where some guy had simple modeled organisms where there were altruistic and in group ones. Even with in group preference at low values after introducing something like a few percent ingroup organisms to the altruistic ones they were the majority every time after a 100 generations. The altruistic orgsnisms had no way of detecting or punishing the in group ones. Funnily enough we're legaly and culturally prohibited from doing that so the model is amusingly accurate in that aspect.

My memory is hazy so I might over or understate the numbers i mention above.
This is almost certainly not what you're talking about, but still relevant:
 
This is almost certainly not what you're talking about, but still relevant:
You're right, this was from the biodiversity crowd back when there were still blogs. But it's the same kind of prisoners dilemma + scarse resources + generations and comparing populations after n generations.

You could probably bowdlerize it by calling it animals or aliens in simulations and get away with it.

Studying it for real will require some kind of collapse or revolution of current academia.
 
I personally don't give a shit if the male mean is 101 and the female mean is 99. I see sexists argue "LOL, women are dumb and need to go make me a sammich" and that's just tardery.

I'm also a believer that the curve for males is flatter and has longer tails than the curve for women. So yeah, you have more men who are hyper-geniuses.

I think the things that get missed are male culture and male autism.

Men are more likely to form cliques around shared interests, and the culture of "Git gud, scrub" is pervasive within these groups. Women can be viciously competitive within their interest groups, but men are usually more good-natured and team oriented.

Men are also more likely to be complete autists. Women don't do things like trainspotting, and shit like making model planes or rockets isn't exclusively male, but when women do it, it's not an all-consuming interest.

Looping back around to IQ in general, I've heard tell that the correlation between IQ and life skills is not uniform between the races. I'd argue that's true for the sexes, too. I've seen it said that a white man with an 85 IQ is hard pressed to tie his own shoes, but a black man with an 85 IQ can be a productive member of society with no obvious deficits. Men of every IQ seem to have more problems with basic life skills than most women do. Some of the smartest men I've ever met were basically incapable of handling things like food preparation or keeping their living space reasonably tidy. Whereas I've known some really stupid women who could run a household with 5 kids like it was nothing.

People are interesting.
 
Men are more likely to form cliques around shared interests, and the culture of "Git gud, scrub" is pervasive within these groups. Women can be viciously competitive within their interest groups, but men are usually more good-natured and team oriented.
I've noticed for awhile that an extremely high number of new businesses, especially in tech, follow the blueprint of "two guys decided to start something together."

Sometimes you will see one guy, rarely a husband and wife or lone woman, and rarely two women, and when it's two women the chances are high they are sisters or bff's and the odds are damn near 99% the business has something to do with food, children, or women's clothing. But silicon valley and various colleges are absolutely pumping out this "two guys in a garage had an idea" business model for all sorts of things.
Clearly there's something about men working together I just don't understand. I'm sure somebody will come along with a comment about women not being able to work together, but in my experience that's not the issue, it's more like a lack of drive to really do something.
 
Considering the first thing people think about when talking about race and intelligence is black people, the connection between melanin levels and intelligence is known to everyone and this whole thing is a giant farce.

The only real interesting subject is why the subject is so taboo, for which my guess is that modern society is built on the illusion that you can be anywhere if you work hard enough. Having the knowledge that humans start at different starting lines from the get-go breaks that illusion and thus risks society's norms from being upheld (since a good chunk of people will refuse to play an unfair game).

I have yet to see a study that correlates melanin and intelligence.
 
Just about every study that compares Europe to Africa in terms of economics and education will highly suggest there is an anti-correlation

Economic and educational differentials don't prove correlation. If that were the case, the average income of everyone outside of Europe and North America would be proof that the bulk of the world are retards.
 
Economic and educational differentials don't prove correlation. If that were the case, the average income of everyone outside of Europe and North America would be proof that the bulk of the world are retards.
They kinda do though, as countries are dominated by their majority ethnic groups and if those groups are intelligent then the country will invest in education, which will lead to a good economy (otherwise the country is dependent on manual labour and exploitation). If anything this gives a better sign of intelligence than any study that handpicks its targets to get their desired outcome.
 
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Also this classic comic from our favorite mineral chucker.
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The thing is, if a few scientists nutted up and acknowledged a difference and the idea caught on, I guaran-damn-tee that many people would get royally fucked because of affirmative action type bullshit. Places would have lower standards for certain races or only allow so many of others in the name of making things "fair" (yes I know this already happens but it'd get a hundred times worse). When I was in university my professors by and large just refused to discuss it, but "genetics are slightly different between groups except for brains which are 110% identical" is just a polite fiction that you go along with so the people financing your research don't pull their money. I think most people, even the ones who deny it the loudest, privately know there almost has to be some sort of slight difference.
Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying drive me crazy with their dancing around this issue. They're evolutionary biologists, but their official stance on evolution above the neck is basically, "high intelligence would be a benefit no matter what environment you evolved in anywhere on the planet, and so evolutionary intelligence gaps between ethnic groups would be illogical."

Even as a layman I know that doesn't track. Let's put aside that that's clearly reasoning towards a palatable conclusion. Let's put aside that bigger brains and higher cognition are costly from a calorie requirement/child development standpoint. (And maybe all humans passed that evolutionary hurdle by definition, I don't know... it's not as if African tribes have children that are quicker to get up and walk around post-birth, is it? And are there average calorie intake differences between ethnic groups?) And let's put aside what seems obvious to me, that different environments (with different survival challenges), isolated from one another, would not apply the same level of demand for higher evolved cognitive skills across the board.

Even if you assumed equality in all those things... why would each isolated ethnic group randomly arrive at the same I.Q. average? (Does anything in evolution work like that? I'm genuinely asking.) And wouldn't that have left us with the same basic percentage of autist-level geniuses per ethnic group?

Even if they're being honest and they're correct, the fact that this stuff can't be openly debated makes it so difficult to find the best answers to related questions. I mean, you still have ostensibly intelligent people popularizing the "blacks are on average better athletes because slavery was a form of selection for physical traits" garbage. (Excuse me if I'm skeptical of any theory that feeds right into the "blacks are victims and whites are defined by the evils of slavery" narrative.)

I come bearing chuckles.
Go to 2:30 if the timestamp doesn't work.
LMAO imagine unironically using the term "problematic" in the face of scientific evidence you don't like.
 
The thing that's also hilarious is that no one, not even wikipedia, has any problem with the idea that asians do better on IQ tests than white people do, yet most of the "that's racist" and "culture" arguments get destroyed by that notion. Why would kids who grow up in asian cultures do better on IQ tests (which were designed by white people) if the tests are culturally biased? Why would white "supremacists" insist that asian people have higher IQs?
 
It just annoys me that people who pride themselves on supposed objectivity are clearly so emotionally invested. There are huge gulfs between average IQs of certain groups just like there are with average height, and anyone who isn't in total denial can easily recognize this (without endless studies to "prove" it). It's like the differently shaped bell curve distributions of average IQ between men and women: women's cluster more around the mean, while men's sprawl more toward the extremes, hence there are more male retards but also more male geniuses. Because of this there will never be anything even approaching "egalitarian" outcomes between the genders in elite levels of STEM fields, it's just how it is and I wish idealists would get over it already.
People are just scared that being honest about the differences might lead to increased discrimination or worse, genocide. Openly admitting that we're different while keeping dangerous racists at bay would be a delicate balancing act.
 
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I mean, you still have ostensibly intelligent people popularizing the "blacks are on average better athletes because slavery was a form of selection for physical traits" garbage. (Excuse me if I'm skeptical of any theory that feeds right into the "blacks are victims and whites are defined by the evils of slavery" narrative.)

Slavery was absolutely a form of selection for physical traits.

Per Wikipedia, 15% of slaves died on the boats coming across. It wasn't true on every plantation, but on some plantations, slaves were absolutely bred like farm animals. I've never heard that slaves were exactly starved, but you want female slaves who can eat 1800 calories a day and work all day in the fields and still keep on enough weight to menstruate and have babies. The birth of babies that would grow into strong workers was money in the bank for the masters.

I was reading slave narratives a few months ago and this woman said she was brought into a barn and her master was there with a huge, naked black man she'd never seen before and her master said to her, "Can you handle this big nigger?" and she said she guessed so and her master was like, "Okay, you're married now," and then the master watched while they fucked.

This doesn't mean that blacks are life's victims and white people are the root of all evil. Slavery outside of the US, from everything I hear, made slavery in the US look like a week at Sandals.

However, if slavery was still around today, they'd be selling straws of spooge from Michael Jordan or LeBron James for $100,000 a pop.
 
are there average calorie intake differences between ethnic groups
I don't know about that. But I do remember reading somewhere that dietary requirements can differ. Some populations in India can more efficiently make use of certain fatty acids than eskimos, for example. So the former population can better adapt to a vegetarian diet while the latter is much more dependent on animal fats. And then there's the little tidbit that the lactose intolerant are still the majority of the world.
 
Slavery was absolutely a form of selection for physical traits.

Per Wikipedia, 15% of slaves died on the boats coming across. It wasn't true on every plantation, but on some plantations, slaves were absolutely bred like farm animals. I've never heard that slaves were exactly starved, but you want female slaves who can eat 1800 calories a day and work all day in the fields and still keep on enough weight to menstruate and have babies. The birth of babies that would grow into strong workers was money in the bank for the masters.

I was reading slave narratives a few months ago and this woman said she was brought into a barn and her master was there with a huge, naked black man she'd never seen before and her master said to her, "Can you handle this big nigger?" and she said she guessed so and her master was like, "Okay, you're married now," and then the master watched while they fucked.

This doesn't mean that blacks are life's victims and white people are the root of all evil. Slavery outside of the US, from everything I hear, made slavery in the US look like a week at Sandals.

However, if slavery was still around today, they'd be selling straws of spooge from Michael Jordan or LeBron James for $100,000 a pop.

But we also know slaves were more typically allowed to choose their own husbands/wives as long as their masters agreed to the pairing. I can accept that a few weirdos were playing farmhand eugenics and breeding their slaves like cattle (and probably getting off on it, one suspects), but I don't think that was the norm at all. If you can prove otherwise (with something other than anecdote), great.

And the slaves dying on the way to their destinations would have weeded out the sick, the infirm, and those lacking in nutrition stores, sure, but I don't buy (without substantial evidence) that this explains differences we see in American descendants of slavery. A (often) once-in-a-lifetime traumatic trip that kills off the weak isn't a constant evolutionary pressure on each individual. And regression to the mean is a thing, and traits don't transfer perfectly and predictably from parent to child. I have doubts black chattel slavery was happening long enough to have resulted in the differences we pretend not to notice these days... unless someone can prove to me that slaves were almost exclusively bred into being the way humans created dogs from wolves.

I could be wrong about any of that. But my point was the explanation ticks all the right boxes for a narrative that all the "let's not talk about race and I.Q." people would love. "Even our strengths are the result of the evil white man!" I remain skeptical without hard evidence.
 
Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying drive me crazy with their dancing around this issue. They're evolutionary biologists, but their official stance on evolution above the neck is basically, "high intelligence would be a benefit no matter what environment you evolved in anywhere on the planet, and so evolutionary intelligence gaps between ethnic groups would be illogical."
That's the difference between guys like Bret Weinstein and Steven Pinker (someone correct me if I'm wrong on Pinker) and people like Stefan Molyneux and Jared Taylor. The latter refuse to lie about race and IQ as well as other genetic differences and as a consequence they've been deplatformed and shunned. Taylor was probably always shunned, just for speaking up for the interests of white people.
Studying in group prerences is highly antisemitic and racist so those will not be studied.
Which brings me to another point, which is the observation that whites are the only race that do not seem to have, or aren't allowed to have in-group preference. For any other group it seems natural that they should make ethnic enclaves and give preferential treatment to people of their own race.

I've also been pondering the issue of the chosen people lately and come to the conclusion that I probably do not believe in any great overarching conspiracy that has lead to them being so powerful in industry, media, politics and so on. It seems like they are similar to white people, except they have strong in-group preference. That's how you will get individuals agitating for the interests of their ethnic group without having them be directed by any central agency. If whites do this they are shunned and ostracized.

I think altruism will lead to better outcomes, but only as long as everybody is altruistic. But altruism isn't viewed as generosity by those who have in-group preference, rather it's viewed as weakness. Some small cause for optimism might be that altruism is being slowly eroded in the west, both through forced "diversity" and through people realizing that altruism is a weakness in a multi-ethnic society. The white people who would have in-group preference are as yet too few and dissociated but with time their numbers might grow. I've personally found myself becoming less and less altruistic as time goes by and the number of people I act altruistically towards has gradually shrunk.

Anyway, perhaps I'm going off-topic but I find that there are a lot of factors one need to be realistic about and willing to consider if one ever wants outcomes to improve. Not just genetic differences between ethnic groups but also how ethnic groups interact with one another.

One of the most stark examples of this is how nonchalant many individuals are towards the suffering of people who are not part of their in-group. That explains some of the horrific crimes we see perpetrated against whites by blacks and other minorities. The reverse, whites committing violent crimes against members of other races, is miniscule by comparison.

I don't have any hopes that any of these discussions will become mainstream soon, but at least more and more people may stop giving a damn about what's mainstream as the prevalent views on diversity, equality between the genders, and ethnic differences become ever more ridiculous and impossible to take seriously.
 

Genes do not determine values or identity​

So I can identify as black now?

In his recent bestselling book, How to Argue With a Racist, geneticist Adam Rutherford emphasises the need “to equip [people] with the scientific tools necessary to tackle questions on race, genes and ancestry” and “to provide a foundation to contest racism that appears to be grounded in science”.
So why doesn't the article list at least one of these arguments? Mangoloids are genetically more intelligent than Negroids, every test of intelligence shows this. How does he argue this? Is it one of those, 2+2=5 things?
 
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