Canada is a failed state

[The I Scream Man]

Honestly I fuckin love Canada, I've loved Canada ever since I was a kid, you guys are always super nice to me and mine when we cross the border from the Lower 48 to go home and you've never once given me shit about my guns (the ones you found ) or my dogs or anything like that, and you've given my little brother lots of opportunities (he's head coach of a hockey program)

I've been sick to my stomach the last decade or so watching your policies eat away at a great country that shares so much in common with my home state, I hope to god that y'all can right the ship and stop these fuckin horrible leeches from draining away what makes Canada great

 

[Spooky Space Kook]

Trudeau turned Tim Hortons into my least favorite indian restaurant. I hope he gets locked up for all the shady shit he has done, he has destroyed Canada's economy, military, and has robbed millions of Canadian's of their hard earned money. What he did during the chink flu and what happened to those truckers was evil. I hope the CBC get blown out of the water, they truly deserve all the bad things coming to them.

 

[Betonhaus]

I don't really have much hope in an early election. But the Conservatives should do everything in their power to find a way to take Singh's pension away from him

 

[Well Intentioned]

But are the Leaf Conservatives like the Tories in the UK where they're just a slightly less leftist Left party? Or will they actually do these based things?

They're distinctly more towards the right within Canada but would probably still be considered left-wing or like very-center right by American political metrics.

I am 100% convinced Justin will stay as Liberal leader after he loses, maybe not until the next election but definitely for a while

I think this is possible and the reason we're current in this holding pattern is that they're trying to figure out a game plan for leadership of the Liberal party.

Trudeau is likely trying to save his own skin and keep his ass in power and is trying to broker something, while the rest of the party is trying to figure out a way to extricate him. It might just be giving Trudeau a way to go out on 'his terms' while basically being the scapegoat until the party can try to sort itself out.

This is probably going to play out about as well as Paul Martin did as PM (ie, not very well.)

Liberals MPs have the power to bring together their caucus, do a sort of anonymous vote and remove him from power forcefully if he doesn't remove himself. It's a non-confidence in prime ministerial power so to speak, it was introduced in 2015. Will they do that? It's hard to say.

I think the big issue right now is that no one wants to be the leader. Whoever ends up taking the mantle is going to be in a lameduck role. Any bullshit or scandals that leak out are going to be put on their lap, the current state of affairs and voter dissatisfaction is going to transfer to them. There is high potential for the new leader, even if they're interim, to have a worse time of it than Kim Campbell.

 

[Goofy Logic]

Justin's old man Pierre also stubbornly clung to office while extremely unpopular with his own party. He claimed he "Took a long walk in the snow" one night when he decided to resign. Something that a lot of the liberals are telling Justin to do.

There is a bit of irony in how Justin's time in office copied his own father's time in office. We as Canadians certainly doomed ourselves to repeat history.

 

[King Metalia]

Justin's old man Pierre also stubbornly clung to office while extremely unpopular with his own party. He claimed he "Took a long walk in the snow" one night when he decided to resign. Something that a lot of the liberals are telling Justin to do.

There is a bit of irony in how Justin's time in office copied his own father's time in office. We as Canadians certainly doomed ourselves to repeat history.

It's a miracle no one's invaded and conquered Canada yet. Maybe the Indian immigrants will change that.

 

['Ole Dente]

It's a miracle no one's invaded and conquered Canada yet. Maybe the Indian immigrants will change that.

It just wouldn’t make any sense for the United States to lose and have nothing to show for it.

 

[Kulee Baba]

I didn’t bother to save the tweet but it was a post from a Canadian that more or less said “Be careful Americans, several years ago our country was sold on the promise of opening immigration and in return we would get brilliant Indians who would improve the country. We ended up with high unemployment, stiff inflation, and out of control housing prices.”

So tell it to me straight did the USA just get its first legit Pajeet invasion attempt? This one was still just weird how it amounted to a Twitter shitstorm. I’m worried that the goal is to just test the waters waiting to see when to strike.

Whatever it is thank Trudeau you serve as a guide as to what not to do.

 

[Miquella]

Doesn't matter, economic system won't change so immigration will remain because low paid exploited workers are required for your economy to function sorry bout it

 

[BulkForceFive]

Doesn't matter, economic system won't change so immigration will remain because low paid exploited workers are required for your economy to function sorry bout it

Tim Hortons isn't the center of our economy

 

[Space Police]

But are the Leaf Conservatives like the Tories in the UK where they're just a slightly less leftist Left party? Or will they actually do these based things?

Yeah, Canadian conservatives are basically crony capitalists, though recently they've gotten a bit more socially conservative thanks to Jason Kenney importing these culture war issues from the US.

So Canadians are still going to go to the US to get treatment because they can't get an apointment at home. Healthcare is something that I think is something your screwed in some regard with no matter your country.

The Canadian healthcare system is excellent because if you go to an emergency room or you need an operation, you won't get saddled with a bill that will put you in debt for the rest of your life. I'd rather have massive wait times than have private healthcare where the wait times are just as bad but now you're shackled with debt. The real threat of the conservatives is that they want to take this away; some provinces have lost a bunch of walk-in clinics because of conservative premiers forcing this.

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

I don't really have much hope in an early election. But the Conservatives should do everything in their power to find a way to take Singh's pension away from him

Pass some law calling Singh a terrorist for supporting Khalistan separatist groups (do the same with Hindu MPs who support Hindu nationalist groups) then cancel their pensions with no refunds because they are shitskin terrorists. Have an open glass casket for the first Jeet who complains about where White Canadians can have a designated pissing Jeet to piss on.

 

[Lupin The Turd]

Was our healthcare significantly better off before the Jeet Invasion? I've never had any standout medical issues myself to have engaged with it but I don't particularly remember people complaining when I was young unlike say something like gas prices or taxes. It would make sense to me that it would be a better oiled machine when there isn't such an overwhelming amount of biomass flooding it.

 

[Mordecai "3 Finger" Brown]

I'd rather have massive wait times than have private healthcare where the wait times are just as bad but now you're shackled with debt. The real threat of the conservatives is that they want to take this away; some provinces have lost a bunch of walk-in clinics because of conservative premiers forcing this.

Walk-in clinics aren't forced to close because "Conservative" premiers want to expand for-profit healthcare.

Walk-in clinics ARE the "for-profit" healthcare model - ramming through as many patient as possible to squeeze out a few dollars per head while rushing them out and servicing them with the shoddiest, quick-fix, episodic care possible.

This is the anti-thesis to a public universal model that can only keep costs down by rationing, rationing, rationing.

Walk-in clinics, as shady and capitalistic as they are, also represent the pressure relief valve to meet some of the needs that the rest of the managed, shitty family doctor/specialist/ER system can't or won't fulfill.

That's why provincial governments are always trying to quash them - they represent uncapped growth in spending in a system that relies on pretending it's universal but is really about limited budgets and making access difficult.

If Health Ministries actually wanted to expand access to care, they wouldn't cap the number of patients a doc can see in a day or pit urgent care docs and GPs against one another by paying one and denying payment to another when a patient seeks care elsewhere according to their convenience.

 

[Betonhaus]

Was our healthcare significantly better off before the Jeet Invasion? I've never had any standout medical issues myself to have engaged with it but I don't particularly remember people complaining when I was young unlike say something like gas prices or taxes. It would make sense to me that it would be a better oiled machine when there isn't such an overwhelming amount of biomass flooding it.

I do recall Alberta's old health minister was so horrible that the local bakery came out with a cookie called Duckett's Demise which was a huge chocolate caramel cookie that was so sugary and unhealthy. Last i checked they were still selling it.
Turns out he was fired in 2010 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Duckett#Cookie_controversy

 

['Ole Dente]

Was our healthcare significantly better off before the Jeet Invasion? I've never had any standout medical issues myself to have engaged with it but I don't particularly remember people complaining when I was young unlike say something like gas prices or taxes. It would make sense to me that it would be a better oiled machine when there isn't such an overwhelming amount of biomass flooding it.

It’s not really pajeets per se, it’s just the biomass. We don’t have the infrastructure to support Trudeau’s 500,000 per year immigration target. It’s millions of additional people with no goal to comprehensively add doctors to that list so we end up with roughly 250 doctors per 100,000 patients. We don’t have the housing to support them either or the comprehensive job market or retraining facilities to do it. It’s depressing, it’s not as if nobody wants to help Ukrainians fleeing a war or help someone escaping fucking China but we just can’t do it.

 

[Baraka Obama]

Was our healthcare significantly better off before the Jeet Invasion? I've never had any standout medical issues myself to have engaged with it but I don't particularly remember people complaining when I was young unlike say something like gas prices or taxes. It would make sense to me that it would be a better oiled machine when there isn't such an overwhelming amount of biomass flooding it.

It has been horrible my entire life.

I have heard horror stories as a child from relatives and extended family, read them on the CBC news 10 years ago before that became a propaganda outlet, lived a couple issues myself though thankfully no deaths.

You get the worst results when you don't know how to navigate the system. The worst wait times you hear about are people going to the ER at midnight, graveyard shift is minimally staffed, I nearly lost my wife to learn that one.

Walk-in clinics aren't forced to close because "Conservative" premiers want to expand for-profit healthcare.

Walk-in clinics ARE the "for-profit" healthcare model - ramming through as many patient as possible to squeeze out a few dollars per head while rushing them out and servicing them with the shoddiest, quick-fix, episodic care possible.

This is the anti-thesis to a public universal model that can only keep costs down by rationing, rationing, rationing.

Walk-in clinics, as shady and capitalistic as they are, also represent the pressure relief valve to meet some of the needs that the rest of the managed, shitty family doctor/specialist/ER system can't or won't fulfill.

That's why provincial governments are always trying to quash them - they represent uncapped growth in spending in a system that relies on pretending it's universal but is really about limited budgets and making access difficult.

If Health Ministries actually wanted to expand access to care, they wouldn't cap the number of patients a doc can see in a day or pit urgent care docs and GPs against one another by paying one and denying payment to another when a patient seeks care elsewhere according to their convenience.

All doctors operate for profit. We do not have public medicine, we have public health insurance.

I used to look at the NHS as a model for what we should do with healthcare but that seems to be falling apart at the seams too.

EDIT:

I wanted to add a few areas that I really believe have gotten and are getting worse:

1. There is an influx of 3rd world doctors who are appallingly bad at their job. The worst offenders seem to all come from Nigeria.
2. There is a massive shortage of family doctors and the lag to find any after you move or your doctor retires is way beyond unacceptable, seems this is a countrywide issue but it is extremely bad in Quebec and shockingly, retardedly bad in the maritimes. This is made worse by the above and walk-in clinics being flooded with retarded 3rd worlders.
3. Visiting a children's hospital for emergency care went from a rough day to completely unusable due to the volume of retarded 3rd worlders taking their kids there every time they get the sniffles. I personally resolved this by taking my kids to the best normal hospital in the area for ER visits.

 

[BeetleBug242]

like banning HRT for kids, stopping all immigration, ejecting all the fucking pajeets back to their shit-stain country, fixing all the homosexual fag shit that Trudeau injected into everything, ect. All the good stuff the Conservative party has been planning to do for over a decade.

Yeah none of that’s actually going to happen, sorry goys

 

[Brutality]

like banning HRT for kids, stopping all immigration, ejecting all the fucking pajeets back to their shit-stain country, fixing all the homosexual fag shit that Trudeau injected into everything, ect. All the good stuff the Conservative party has been planning to do for over a decade.

The only one of these i can see happening realistically is Banning HRT for kids. Poilievre won't touch the remigration issue as people in key roles in the Conservative Party are jeets. The fag shit is probably here to stay as well as the deputy Leader of the party is a Gay Jewish Woman. No seriously

They'll be better than the boy king for sure, but that's a low bar

 

[Scale Smerch]

No, they're considerably more right leaning but I think they do maintain things like not banning abortion and keeping the medicare system we have. Other than that, they want to defund federal funding of federal media, they want to disperse gun buy backs and gun bans while strengthening your rights to own a gun, throwing out drug decriminalization, getting rid of kids using HRT, completely defunding universities that unconstitutionally block any free speech, leaving the internet fucking alone in terms of censorship and letting police handle things like that, things like that. I think the party leader is "technically" what you'd consider to be a Libertarian.

The only one of these i can see happening realistically is Banning HRT for kids. Poilievre won't touch the remigration issue as people in key roles in the Conservative Party are jeets. The fag shit is probably here to stay as well as the deputy Leader of the party is a Gay Jewish Woman. No seriously

The only tangible things I expect Poilievre to do are roll back all the recent gun restrictions (been explicitly promised in private to gun owner groups, at least in my neck of the woods), scrap the carbon tax, and potentially cut the dental and childcare programs recently implemented.

Immigration? Housing? Zilch and nada will be done outside of some hemming and hawing over tying municipal funding to housing starts and dabbling with the recent TFA, foreign student, and PM limits the Libs introduced (without ever significantly cutting or eliminating them). It won't be the Cons who fix this problem - they are part of the problem.