Canada is a failed state

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I’m dismayed that the general public is more upset that the orange man is going to impose tariffs. You should be angry that our federal leadership took their ball home and went on vacation for three months instead of dealing with the issue.

Now you have rumours that there might be a state of emergency declared by the gov on first day back and delaying elections a year? Singh out there saying we need cerb 2.0 asap to help people, fuck that get back to work and pass bills to deal with the border security.

I’m seriously black pilled and appalled by the federal government no matter the leader or party.
 
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Flan Handler said:
Who pays for it? By “pays for it” I mean, who is creating the goods and services that the government can take at gunpoint to give to UBI recipients?
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We gave 20 billion dollars to natives out of thin air. They propose matching tariffs which would increase tax revenue which will already probably be used to bail out big business anyways. Doug Ford found the money out of existing coffers to pay everyone 200$ just to vote for him. The sheer amount of money we waste could easily cover a program that is less than the Covid program since my UBI idea is an UBIS - universal basic income supplement. We already do this for seniors who did not make enough to receive above the poverty line in pensions. We literally fall over ourselves to give money to every single thing but the average Canadian citizen. What if for once just this one time we reinvest the money into all Canadians and not a select group? Because we will absolutely 100% be giving it to a select group of people that is not you or me. The rich always profit during financial crisis such as this.
Flan Handler said:
No offense but on what planet is Jagmeet Singh anyone’s preferred candidate? What exactly are his policies, let alone ones you support? He just seems to go along with whatever will keep him in power five more minutes.
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The planet that supports the concept of the NDP as a party regardless of Jagmeet. He just completely annihilated the concept of that by being so shit and modelling the current era after the Liberals and refusing to do anything helpful.

Lobster Cult High Priest said:
They all derserve the noose.

How hard is it to crack down on the Injun and Sikh gangs smuggling Chink fentanyl across the border into America?

Trump's demands are entirely reasonable if you at least appear to actually listen to him and give a shit
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I was definitely saying a few weeks back that I agreed with Trump's opinion on Canada even if it has under handed motives for Trump as a business person. They are ongoing problems people have been speaking about for almost a decade, Covid just sped up the demise we were heading towards.

I don't want the government to control everything or hand out money. But they will be handing out money. It's happening regardless of feelings. I'd rather advocate for the money they're going to waste without a doubt to be distributed back to the citizen than into corporate projects UNLESS there are complete budgetary plans in place that directs any revenue back to health care and building infrastructure. But there is not so I do not trust the government nor big business and would rather Tom Joe spend 200$ a month on the fentanyl they refuse to police than give 20 billion dollars to TARIFFCAN, the app that tells you what the latest tariffs are and if your industry is included while they hand out free drugs at the safe supply.

It's super fucked up were about to be hit with something that will potentially be more catastrophic than the pandemic and 2008 crash combined and there is no sitting government. They have modeled an example for average citizens to basically ignore what's going on, fingers crossed, hope for the best, it'll work out fine and by March our dollar could be worth 1/4 the USD. This is the most Canadian head in the sand bullshit that we will pay our last 40 million dollars to create a 1:30 Heritage Moment to play on CBC to honor.
 
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Canada is what you get when the ruling class becomes unfathomably inept, corrupt, and ideological that it buys into its own hype so much that it is more willing to burn the nation to ashes than to admit failure. The situation has gotten so dire that I am developing pro-independence/annexation sentiments as an Albertan because I struggle to find a reason why Canada should even exist. Where was this "Team Canada" spirit when Northern Gateway fizzled out because of obstructionism from British Columbia and the foreign-funded environmental lobby? Where was that spirit when we should have invested in building refineries, export terminals, mines, another critical pieces of infrastructure to diversify our markets?

Germany, Japan, and Greece come asking for natural gas (a resource we have in abundance) and what does the dear leader say? There is no business case for exporting it. Meanwhile, he sinks tens of billions into building EV battery plants that are now moving to the United States because of looming tariffs. Trudeau and his cronies made this country utterly dependent on the United States for trade and defense. They are so obsessed with their utopian mirage that their tunnel vision utterly blinds them to the economic and social realities that are obvious to those with two neurons and a functioning synapse.

What do they do now that the Orange Man is threatening us with crippling tariffs? Drag their feet and complain like a teenager after their parent tells them to clean their room. All they have left is jingoism to rally the mouthbreathers around the flag, but honestly, fuck that and fuck the Laurentian Consensus that brought us here.
 
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Flan Handler said:
@Sweetpeaa you really nailed it 😬

2021 seems so quaint. There’s a lot of ruin in a nation, as Adam Smith once said.
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In 2021 I was reading a lot of articles that were conducted through research that talked about Canada having the highest level of poverty in the G7, declining wages and a highly abnormal cost of living. I knew this was all looking abysmal for us. That's pretty much the kiss of death for a country and I saw us becoming a sort of Argentina north. Unfortunately it's true..

We failed. We're done.

This isn't something that's ever going to be fixed. With the amount of foreign cash flow in real estate and the government at every level serving oligarchs this isn't the kind of "mess" that can be cleaned up.

The Canadian dream is to leave.
 
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WatterBottle said:
I’m dismayed that the general public is more upset that the orange man is going to impose tariffs. You should be angry that our federal leadership took their ball home and went on vacation for three months instead of dealing with the issue.

Now you have rumours that there might be a state of emergency declared by the gov on first day back and delaying elections a year? Singh out there saying we need cerb 2.0 asap to help people, fuck that get back to work and pass bills to deal with the border security.

I’m seriously black pilled and appalled by the federal government no matter the leader or party.
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I’m upset the government refuses to listen to trumps reasonable demands of cracking down on fentanyl being shipped across the borders (on the native reservations)

If anything Canada should be joining America with its complaints about Mexico since Canadian manufacturing was also outsourced to Mexico
 
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WatterBottle said:
Now you have rumours that there might be a state of emergency declared by the gov on first day back and delaying elections a year? Singh out there saying we need cerb 2.0 asap to help people, fuck that get back to work and pass bills to deal with the border security
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This exact scenario will guarantee Canada becomes a Zimbabwe esque failed state.
 
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Totallyunknown said:
But there is not so I do not trust the government nor big business and would rather Tom Joe spend 200$ a month on the fentanyl they refuse to police than give 20 billion dollars to TARIFFCAN, the app that tells you what the latest tariffs are and if your industry is included while they hand out free drugs at the safe supply
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Yes they made Canada so unliveable that you can’t live without constant booze from the LCBO and then they hike the prices of the booze (booze is going even higher when they hike the tariffs on Kentucky bourbon)

The Canadian brands of Rye whiskey are all shit and they are trying to tell us it’s compareable to Bourbon

I already purchase Ontario wines because I like supporting local wineries but local whiskies are all shit.
Jetpack Himmler said:
What do they do now that the Orange Man is threatening us with crippling tariffs? Drag their feet and complain like a teenager after their parent tells them to clean their room. All they have left is jingoism to rally the mouthbreathers around the flag, but honestly, fuck that and fuck the Laurentian Consensus that brought us here.
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They don’t even try to negotiate and the hear the man out, they just go straight to rawdogging their own populace by saying we are doing 1 for 1 tariffs
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Undercover RCMP trying to stir the pot?
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Where do I apply for a job because I’m already stirring the pot for free?

I want a job with a good pension plan
Sweetpeaa said:
This isn't something that's ever going to be fixed. With the amount of foreign cash flow in real estate and the government at every level serving oligarchs this isn't the kind of "mess" that can be cleaned up.
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Oh it can be cleaned up but it requires a massive Day of the Rope / Day of the Rake for the Laurentian Elite / Family Compact

If Americans are willing to send me firearms and a Toyota Hiluxe I’ll be willing to get started on this raking operation myself
 
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Totallyunknown said:
I don't want the government to control everything or hand out money. But they will be handing out money.
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Looks like they will.

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Quantitative easing on steroids.
 
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