Canada is a failed state

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i've been wondering about this for awhile but is it because they were school bullies that were never stopped so they always think themselves more superior to others while trying to "fit in" to the current in thing to get the higher moral ground and get that same school bully status?
Maybe a little too far fetched.
People like JT and the Communist excuse me Liberal Party are just power hungry and they love being mad with power and will do anything and everything to hold onto it even at the cost of the country itself.
 
Breaking news!

Trudeau is appointing a special rapporteur to investigate and make recommendations on Chinese election interference!

Place your bets! How many Liberal campaigns and how much money have they donated to the Liberal Party?
Reality is if your voted in and there is proof of interference you should be fired and your party deemed traitor for letting it happen. It's simple. But we live in cuckada so none of that will happen.
 
The Liberal party are dancing around and celebrating about their Volkswagen deal https://www.ft.com/content/5f78ea02-6ec2-4413-8d77-1565d1c17b38.

I don't know about you but isn't it obvious why they pick Canada? It's not a surprise at all. A lot of American companies use Canada as an outsourcing country like they do with India and China. They love setting up offices in Canada so they don't have to pay people American wages or have to cover insurance.

It is of no surprise that a German company is catching on and realizing why Canada is a popular country to outsource low Canadian wage workers.
 
Breaking news! The special rapporteur has been selected.

Former Governor General David Johnson.

Also current member of the Trudeau Foundation. Also close friends with the Trudeaus. Also getting government money for his charity.




 
Breaking news! The special rapporteur has been selected.

Former Governor General David Johnson.

Also current member of the Trudeau Foundation. Also close friends with the Trudeaus. Also getting government money for his charity.
I'm a cynical bastard so I have an inkling that this was a calculated move on Trudeau's part because his only two skills are campaigning and driving wedge politics for partisan gain. Naturally, the Conservatives will protest for the above reasons while the LPC base will "REEEEEE!" on about how David Johnson was a Harper appointee while ignoring the apparent conflict of interest. Oh, I imagine that DJ might at least attempt to be impartial, but that it beside the point. It is the very perception that a conflict of interest undermines his position because his personal connections to the Trudeau family and the Pierre Trudeau Foundation will bring his findings into question.

Moreover, the very reason why this position even exists is because the LPC is stalling and obstructing to bury this scandal like they have with the others. Look at Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs. The Liberals are filibustering to keep Katie Telford from testifying. Retard supreme and MP for Kingston, Mark Gerretsen, claims that there is--and I paraphrase--"nothing to see here folks!" Marky, Marky, Marky... you dumb little shit. People with nothing to hide don't act this way; the Liberal government cooperate with Parliament if they are innocent of any wrongdoing. Any resistance only serves to make them appear more suspicious.

What I find more distressing is that the Liberal response will only make the CCP more brazen in its attempts to interfere in future elections because they know that our Laurentian elites will thwart any effort to stop it. They already built police stations on our sovereign soil to intimidate ex-pats and Chinese-Canadian citizens without so much as a protest. Xi Jinping gave PMJT a tongue-lashing when Sock Boy had the audacity to "confront" him the issue; PMJT slinked away in shame shortly thereafter. Seriously. Some Canadians have to be the dumbest knuckle-draggers to even defend this shit and I even question this country's right to exist.
 
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This is fucking infuriating to read. At this point, it’s a government sponsored invasion and no Canadian is going to do anything about it.

I hate Trudeau and the Laurentian elite with every fiber of my being.
 
This is fucking infuriating to read. At this point, it’s a government sponsored invasion and no Canadian is going to do anything about it.

I hate Trudeau and the Laurentian elite with every fiber of my being.
Oh, this won't come to haunt us like the 2008 sub-prime mortgage collapse, nosiree. Trudeau, the Laurentian class, and their supporters are not just out of touch, they are outright psychotic and a threat to the rest of the populace. It is quite evident in the Liberals' foreign policy due to their delusions of being a middle-class power, if such a thing actually exists. There is the myth that Canada is a nation of peacekeepers when the country has not taken any significant missions in nearly thirty years, aside from sending a token force of 18 personnel to Mali in 2018. I only remember hearing it from the Andrew Lawton Show, but Canada withdrew a few years later despite UN requests to extend the mission.

Our current Minister of Foreign affairs, Melanie Jolie, stated that Canada's place was to "facilitate discussions", which I assume is to act as a mediator. The problem with that assumption is that the rest of the world DOESN'T want our help. Justin apparently tried to insert himself in a dispute between the EU and UK over Northern Ireland, but neither party would have it. He wanted to be seen as the dean of the G7, but let's face it Canada has the smallest economy of the group and I doubt that he or his cronies have ANY pull over the other members. Canada lacks the population, military, and economy to throw its weight around on the world stage. What we do have is the second-largest land area on the planet and a wealth of natural resources that we can leverage for influence, but Trudeau and his Liberals refuse to because of his monomaniacal obsession with the "Green Economy".

When Germany and Japan come cap in hand for liquified natural gas, he declares that "there is no business case for it" and proceeds to lecture both on how the world needs to decarbonize. (Not that we even have the capacity to export it, mind you.) Germany makes a deal with Qatar months later while the federal government essentially bribes Volkswagen to build a battery factory here. Got to love that corporate welfare, eh?

Let us not forget that Trudeau ran a campaign on being more transparent than the previous Harper government in 2015, but the fact is that his government is the most opaque one the country has ever had. ATIP requests can take months to process--if at all--and there is a high probability that the government will redact the documents. We have seen them abuse cabinet and solicitor privilege at various committees and the POEC to avoid giving the general public an explanation for their actions. When all else fails, Justin will prorogue parliament, though he and the other opposition parties screamed bloody murder when Harper did it.

What truly disturbs me about this squalid state of affairs is how so many Canadians tolerate it. Part of it may be that Canadians have always been more deferential to authority compared to Americans. Not so much towards the government, which could be (theoretically) any party, but our institutions such as the civil service, media, and academia, which all slanted in one direction. The trouble now is that with the advent of social media we have seen the zombification of the populace that surrendered any shred of rationality. I see it to some extent with Pierre Poilievre because of his social media presence and the zealotry of the PPC, but it is painfully evident with the most ardent Liberal voter. They lack any capacity for critcal thought and will accept anything the institutions AKA the Laurentian elite say as the gospel truth. They won't actually listen to you. At best they will take snippets of what you say and warp them to suit their narrative, or outright slander you.

They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity and they won't stop--ever--until your life is utterly ruined for having the audacity to oppose them.

Odin, almighty. We truly live in a cursed timeline.
 
Oh, this won't come to haunt us like the 2008 sub-prime mortgage collapse, nosiree. Trudeau, the Laurentian class, and their supporters are not just out of touch, they are outright psychotic and a threat to the rest of the populace. It is quite evident in the Liberals' foreign policy due to their delusions of being a middle-class power, if such a thing actually exists. There is the myth that Canada is a nation of peacekeepers when the country has not taken any significant missions in nearly thirty years, aside from sending a token force of 18 personnel to Mali in 2018. I only remember hearing it from the Andrew Lawton Show, but Canada withdrew a few years later despite UN requests to extend the mission.
Canada has been slipping in international relevance for years. We've rapidly become an intellectual, cultural and economic backwater. Especially in the last 30 years, and it's accelerated during the Trudeau era. We don't make anything anymore, and our tax scheme is so dysfunctional that it is nearly impossible to start a business. Our tech sector is just a playground for trustfund babies to waste money, and rarely drives any innovation. You see how other world leaders treat Trudeau, constantly getting snubbed and outright disrespected. Something you never ever saw with previous PM's. We were barely involved, by our own choice in the new NAFTA negotiations, and the US and Mexico barely noticed. We were an afterthought in what was once considered a cornerstone of our trade policy.

Peacekeeping has always been a meme. The Liberal's have always despised the military, and the very idea of it. Trudeau senior used peace keeping as a way to generate good press for himself. Dump a few thousand soldiers in the Golan heights and then jerk off about it in the media. Those missions were cheap, and never really accomplished anything. We saw the lie of it in Somalia and Yugoslavia back in the 90's and Afghanistan finally killed it for good. There is a book called "Who Killed the Canadian Forces?" that goes into great detail about this.
 
Gun control didn't work in Fairview Mall, a shopping center in Toronto, from what I read on that article.


One person is dead and two others are injured after a "very brazen daytime shooting" in a parking garage at Fairview Mall on Monday, Toronto police say.

Duty Insp. Mike Hayles, spokesperson for the Toronto Police Service, said officers were called to the mall shortly after 4 p.m. for a report of a shooting. The scene is a large commercial plaza at 1800 Sheppard Avenue East, he said.

All three victims suffered gunshot wounds.

Police responded with Toronto paramedics, and when they arrived, they found two men in their 20s suffering from gunshot wounds on the main floor of a parking structure on the north side of the plaza.

Paramedics tended to the victims and took the pair to a local hospital, where they are receiving medical treatment. One victim has life-threatening injuries, while the other has non-life-threatening injuries.
 
Gun control didn't work in Fairview Mall, a shopping center in Toronto, from what I read on that article.
The only thing that'll help is more gun control!
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This is fucking infuriating to read. At this point, it’s a government sponsored invasion and no Canadian is going to do anything about it.

I hate Trudeau and the Laurentian elite with every fiber of my being.
What, you don't like sub 90 IQ foreigners settling your country while you can't afford to own land, vehicle or family? What are you, a racist?
 
Canada’s Population Grows by Over 1 Million for First Time

Canada’s population grew 2.7% in 2022, the fastest expansion among advanced economies and on par with many African nations.

The country added a record 1,050,110 people over a one-year period to Jan. 1, bringing the total population to 39,566,248, Statistics Canada reported Wednesday in Ottawa. International migration accounted for 95.9% of the growth — a testament to Canada’s decision to counter the economic drag of an aging populace by throwing its doors open to newcomers.

It marks the first time the northern nation grew by more than a million people in a year, while its industrial peers try different ways to address demographic challenges, including raising the retirement age. If this population growth rate is sustained, the statistics agency said Canada would double in size in about 26 years.

The record-setting expansion is the result of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s plan to add about half a million new permanent residents annually. The government has consistently raised its immigration target to grow the workforce and boost economic output, but that also threatens to worsen shortages of housing and health-care workers.

Still, recent polling by Nanos Research Group for Bloomberg News shows 52% of respondents say Trudeau’s plan will have a positive impact on Canada’s economy. That compares with 38% who see the increase as a negative.

Doug Ford, premier of Canada’s most populous province, hailed the stream of new arrivals that brought Ontario’s population to 15.4 million. But he cautioned there is work to be done to accommodate them.

“Stats Canada comes out and they said last year 450,000 people landed here in Ontario, calling this home,” Ford told reporters in the Toronto suburb of Oakville after the data was released. “That’s why we need the schools, hospitals and bridges, the infrastructure — and we especially need homes.”

Demand and Consumption

While there is broad public support for the open-door policy, rapid population growth in urban centers has sent rents soaring and forced many people to leave major cities to search for affordable housing elsewhere.

Increasing immigration not only adds to to the labor supply and fills some shortages, it also boosts demand and consumption during a period of low growth because newcomers need basic necessities from housing and food to banking and mobile phones.

Rapid population growth has already given a boost to telecommunications companies. The big three domestic players — Rogers Communications Inc., BCE Inc. and Telus Corp — reported net gains of more than 400,000 new mobile subscribers combined in the fourth quarter alone.

The increase in demand may be part of the reason why Canada’s economy is proving more resilient than expected, with jobs continuing to be added and consumer spending still holding up in the face of the highest interest rates in 15 years. Home prices are also expected to rebound quickly next year as key cities keep seeing a large influx of new population.

If there's any doubt about the real reason these policies exist, they actually say the quiet part out loud in this article.

Rapid population growth has already given a boost to telecommunications companies. The big three domestic players — Rogers Communications Inc., BCE Inc. and Telus Corp — reported net gains of more than 400,000 new mobile subscribers combined in the fourth quarter alone.

Assuming these plans are ~$40-$50 a month, just those 400,000 new plans alone means an extra $200-million a year in the pocket of our corporate overlords. How much do you think Galen Weston is making off all those new customers?
 
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I disagree with the pessimistic attitude towards Canada in this thread, I'm always optimistic, but this is literally too much. In my opinion, if nothing severe changes by 2030, Canada is legitimately lost. And by something severe, I mean WW3 or another great depression. Problem is, I think we have solved the issue of knowledge. One problem the Soviet Union had is that they didn't know what everyone wanted, so central state planning had to guess how many shoes were going to be needed by the people. They would make a certain number of shoes and inevitably more/less shoes would be bought and the state had to eat the losses OR people didn't get all the shoes they needed. Amazon digitally tracks every buy and sell order. They have unprecedented down to the minute knowledge of the market. While amazon alone doesn't comprise the entirety of the economy, everything is tracked digitally now, so all information is available to any company on-demand. This is why I don't think the economy is going to collapse anytime soon. WW3 will make the brown masses leave Canada, and basically every other western country, because they have no loyalty to these states. They'll probably draft dodge and go back to their own countries.

The Hispanic invasion of America is also worrying. 200k border encounters a month is nothing to sneeze at, and you have to factor in that these are just the people they're catching, so it's not everyone. America and Canada are a bit different. It looks like the Hispanics are actually colonizing America in the sense that they are beginning to move to rural areas. In Canada, they all go to metropolitan areas. Not to say that some aren't leaking into the countryside, but few compared to America. I think that the Hispanics settling in America are more permanent while the Asian hordes in Canada are more rootless and international; they'll be more willing to move. Thoughts?
 
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I disagree with the pessimistic attitude towards Canada in this thread, I'm always optimistic, but this is literally too much. In my opinion, if nothing severe changes by 2030, Canada is legitimately lost. And by something severe, I mean WW3 or another great depression. Problem is, I think we have solved the issue of knowledge. One problem the Soviet Union had is that they didn't know what everyone wanted, so central state planning had to guess how many shoes were going to be needed by the people. They would make a certain number of shoes and inevitably more/less shoes would be bought and the state had to eat the losses OR people didn't get all the shoes they needed. Amazon digitally tracks every buy and sell order. They have unprecedented down to the minute knowledge of the market. While amazon alone doesn't comprise the entirety of the economy, everything is tracked digitally now, so all information is available to any company on-demand. This is why I don't think the economy is going to collapse anytime soon. WW3 will make the brown masses leave Canada, and basically every other western country, because they have no loyalty to these states. They'll probably draft dodge and go back to their own countries.

The Hispanic invasion of America is also worrying. 200k border encounters a month is nothing to sneeze at, and you have to factor in that these are just the people they're catching, so it's not everyone. America and Canada are a bit different. It looks like the Hispanics are actually colonizing America in the sense that they are beginning to move to rural areas. In Canada, they all go to metropolitan areas. Not to say that some aren't leaking into the countryside, but few compared to America. I think that the Hispanics settling in America are more permanent while the Asian hordes in Canada are more rootless and international; they'll be more willing to move. Thoughts?


World War 3 wouldn't change anything except dump millions upon millions of legal and illegal refugees in Canada and "situational immigration" in numbers far greater than present day mass immigration. Think tens of millions of people. No matter the ruling party, Canada's oligarchs will be the first to welcome and call 'dibs' and offer incentives before any other nation can.

In order for Canada to be unappealing to these hypothetical groups there would need to be open public hostility, mass wartime conscription and interment of certain cultural groups as there was in WW2. Even then, Canada is just too lazy, dopey and divided to be able to accomplish or enforce anything.

US immigration is an interesting comparison, in that the legal immigration rate in Canada is 9-10x higher per capita to the US legal rate (not even including perpetual temporary workers and PR). J6 dudes were erecting gallows at the thought of the same thing in their country. Canadians, in the best case scenario honk horns.

I would consider reality and the mind of the "average" Canadian before considering optimism.
 
World War 3 wouldn't change anything except dump millions upon millions of legal and illegal refugees in Canada and "situational immigration" in numbers far greater than present day mass immigration. Think tens of millions of people. No matter the ruling party, Canada's oligarchs will be the first to welcome and call 'dibs' and offer incentives before any other nation can.
WW3 would probably be the axis of evil (Iran, China, Russia and allies) vs NATO without Turkey. The reason I say without Turkey is that Turkey and America are engaged in a proxy war in Syria. I don't care what anyone says, allies just don't go to war with each other. Turkey is not America's ally in NATO, they'll betray NATO the second a war actually happens. This is not unprecedented, Italy did the same in WW1. Important to say also that India and Pakistan won't fight because India is carving its own path. India's close partnership with Russia means that they'd avoid being in a hostile alliance against Russia. With the supposed battlefronts in mind, where would these refugees come from? Most likely Eastern Europe and the Middle East. I don't think you thought this through very much.

In the case of nuclear war, it won't be as severe as everyone imagines it'll be. Not to say that it won't be catastrophic, but that it won't destroy the entire world. As a very rough estimate, you'd need to kill at least 1/3rd of a country's population with nuclear strikes before it ceases to function and cannot reconstitute itself. We probably wouldn't reach that point anyways. If Russia nukes an American fleet in the Mediterranean, America won't respond by dumping its nuclear arsenal on the Russian population, it'll probably escalate bit by bit. And if nuclear armageddon does happen it'll set back the northern hemisphere 2000 years. At that point, we'd have much more serious things to worry about than mass immigration.​
In order for Canada to be unappealing to these hypothetical groups there would need to be open public hostility, mass wartime conscription and interment of certain cultural groups as there was in WW2.
Mass conscription would be enough. People hate the military. Recruiting numbers are at an all time low for all western countries. The difference is that 1st and 2nd gen immigrants will have a lot easier of a time leaving than Whites. If America does end up at war with China and Russia, you better believe that we'll be on the same side throwing our young men into the meat grinder.
Even then, Canada is just too lazy, dopey and divided to be able to accomplish or enforce anything.
I believe in elite theory. The will of a country is not the "will of its people," if that even exists. The elites in Canada are very well organized and capable. We can tell that they're capable from what they're able to do, namely bringing in 1 million people in 2022, crushing the largest protest movement in history, the anti-lockdown protests, AND having one of the best propaganda apparatuses in history. The elite theorist, Gaetano Mosca, correctly stated that a history of a country is the history of its elites. Everywhere the masses are passive and feminine. Even if the average Canadian is exceptionally weak willed, which isn't true, it doesn't matter. There are no divides in Canada because there are no divides in its elite. If there were divides you'd see serious political violence. If WW3 does happen, Trudeau and his cabinet are fully capable of implementing mass conscription and every other wartime measure. It's important to recognize that if our elites weren't capable they wouldn't be in power.​
US immigration is an interesting comparison, in that the legal immigration rate in Canada is 9-10x higher per capita to the US legal rate (not even including perpetual temporary workers and PR). J6 dudes were erecting gallows at the thought of the same thing in their country. Canadians, in the best case scenario honk horns.
Jan 6 was a part of the stop the steal protests. That was over the freest and fairest election ever in world history (not stolen), not over mass immigration. I remember this very well because I was a Nick Fuentes fan at the time (I'm not anymore, fuck him), every month after the election thousands of people would gather at state capitals and demand a recount. There were also two 1 million MAGA marches, each brought ~400k people to Washington DC. At no point during any of these protests was the focus on mass immigration, they didn't care. They were protesting for Donald Trump who said at the 2019 state of the union, and I quote: "Legal immigrants enrich our nation and strengthen our society in countless ways, I want people to come into our country in the largest numbers ever, but they have to come in legally.” Trump supporters didn't care about mass legal immigration at all, they just wanted to save daddy Trump.

Also, what's the difference between erecting gallows and honking horns? IM NOT ADVOCATING FOR VIOLENCE, HOWEVER, Americans have the 2a. I've spoken to Russian nationalists and they tell me that America's blessed to have guns because in Russia their gun rights are garbage. If you think the election was stolen (which it wasn't and there's no reason to do violence over it) and we're actually run by creepy pedophile Joe Xiden, who allegedly gang raped a little kid on Epstein's island with Bill Clinton and Justin Trudeau, when are you going to use guns? In 2 more weeks? Erecting gallows and honking horns are ultimately the same, they're both meaningless gestures because conservatives are retards.​
 
With the supposed battlefronts in mind, where would these refugees come from? Most likely Eastern Europe and the Middle East. I don't think you thought this through very much.

India and China are the #1 and #2 group of immigrants to Canada. They already have preferential immigration treatment as well as family and cultural institutions present in Canada. These nations have a combined population of ~2.8 billion people losing say, 10-20 million+ to Canada is just a rounding error. The battlefronts, very unlikely to involve Canadian land are irrelevant because from a world war comes starvation, loss of personal safety and poverty whether you were previously well to do or not. Canada is an ideal place to flee to for these 2 nations. India itself has a number of military conflicts it would love to start. Some nuclear. People in these countries aren't dumb like Canadians they aren't going to just sit around and wait to do nothing and then proclaim its too late to do anything and then decide they should do nothing.

You could also add in the Philippines (pop 113 million), who fill the #3 spot in immigration to Canada. If WW3 starts with Taiwan then this whole island, integral to any US naval blockade strategy and its many US bases and CIA resorts within China's striking distance will be interested in relocating.
 
India and China are the #1 and #2 group of immigrants to Canada. They already have preferential immigration treatment as well as family and cultural institutions present in Canada. These nations have a combined population of ~2.8 billion people losing say, 10-20 million+ to Canada is just a rounding error. The battlefronts, very unlikely to involve Canadian land are irrelevant because from a world war comes starvation, loss of personal safety and poverty whether you were previously well to do or not. Canada is an ideal place to flee to for these 2 nations. India itself has a number of military conflicts it would love to start. Some nuclear. People in these countries aren't dumb like Canadians they aren't going to just sit around and wait to do nothing and then proclaim its too late to do anything and then decide they should do nothing.

You could also add in the Philippines (pop 113 million), who fill the #3 spot in immigration to Canada. If WW3 starts with Taiwan then this whole island, integral to any US naval blockade strategy and its many US bases and CIA resorts within China's striking distance will be interested in relocating.
Why will India go to war? Where are these conflicts and why does India want to start them? How will starting these conflicts affect India's relation with its key partners? How would a nuclear war benefit India? How will millions of people cross the Pacific if it becomes a warzone? Why would Canada let in millions of Chinese if they'd be at war with China? If Canada does let in millions of Chinese spies, would the USA even tolerate that? Why would Canada be an ideal place to flea if it's a country at war with conscription?

I think you're just dumb. Your entire thought process lacks rigour. I win this conversation. I win another debate on the Internet. I'm always fucking right. You know, it's difficult being me, being one of the most intelligent people on the kiwi farms. I'd say about 90% of the user base on the kiwi farms, there's only 10% who are a bit more intelligent than me.
 
No need to guess the tru-anons will dislike that article.

March 25, 2023

Gun Control in Canada​

By Hank Vanderbeek


We’re coming after your AR-15s, said Beto O'Rourke when running for POTUS in 2019. But in February, O'Rourke moderated that warning with: "I’m not interested in taking anything from anyone. What I want to make sure that what we do is defend the Second Amendment. I want to make sure that we protect our fellow Texans far better than we’re doing right now."
Why did O’Rourke back down? Because in Texas, no gun-hating political aspirant has much chance of ever winning political office. More importantly, the Second Amendment says Americans have a right to own guns. So, unless O’Rourke can somehow arrange to have the Second Amendment removed from the Constitution, Americans may own, buy, sell, or transfer a gun.
It’s a different story in Canada. Canada has no law specific to gun ownership. All Canada must do to ban guns is to invoke an Order in Council (OC). One such OC, effective in October last year, froze the movement of handguns. Canadian citizens cannot now buy, sell, or transfer handguns within Canada, nor bring them into the country. Eventually guns in Canada will be extinct with this rule.
The reason Justin Trudeau gave Canadian citizens for the gun freeze were the same reasons leftist Americans give time and again. He said, “Canadians have the right to feel safe in their homes, in their schools and in their places of worship. With handgun violence increasing across Canada, it is our duty to take urgent action to remove these deadly weapons from our communities. Today, we're keeping more guns out of our communities and keeping our kids safe.”
Liken Trudeau’s statement to banning all safe drivers from the highways and allowing only drunk drivers to drive, because taking guns away from lawabiding citizens leaves the lawbreakers with guns.
 
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Has Pierre Poilievre promised to rescind the handgun transfer freeze and other Trudeau-era firearms restrictions? If so, there's at least some small hope on the horizon on that particular issue. I still wouldn't vote for the Conservative Party candidate in my riding, but the People's Party candidate on account of immigration, but you know...
 
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