The most jarring realization for me was reading about what the old "conservatives" did for Canada: Expanded public medicine, opened crown corporations and invested in public works. They were fiscally conservative and had the goal of increasing quality of life for Canadians while enriching government coffers. It would be a radical far left ideology today. Even "socially conscious" shit libs always defer to Public/Private models to make sure there's enough grift.
@jje100010001 the traces of Canadiana are so strange when you find them. A lot of it seems like it's been memory holed because it's white history, but there was a certain charm and aesthetic to it. Nothing will ever be as cozy as watching curling on a tube TV at the legion while wearing a denim jacket and drinking 10c draft.
The most jarring realization for me was reading about what the old "conservatives" did for Canada: Expanded public medicine, opened crown corporations and invested in public works. They were fiscally conservative and had the goal of increasing quality of life for Canadians while enriching government coffers. It would be a radical far left ideology today. Even "socially conscious" shit libs always defer to Public/Private models to make sure there's enough grift.
These are called Red Tories, which I think are unique to Canada. Some of the provincial PC Parties still operate along the same lines, mostly in Atlantic Canada.
Harper & co are Blue Tories which kowtow to Globohomo. Red Toryism seems dead at the national level.
@jje100010001 the traces of Canadiana are so strange when you find them. A lot of it seems like it's been memory holed because it's white history, but there was a certain charm and aesthetic to it. Nothing will ever be as cozy as watching curling on a tube TV at the legion while wearing a denim jacket and drinking 10c draft.
The peak of 80s Canadiana are the NFB cartoons and children's books. A lot of Robert Munsch's stuff captured this feeling, and it has sort of the same feeling as British cartoons during this period like Wallace and Gromitt, embracing the feeling of a frumpy, cozy, and even naive domesticity.
So I'm wanting to visit family in the US for a late Christmas, and after looking at the sheer bullshit to even cross the border, I almost immediately regret my decision. This is fucking ridiculous.
Download ANOTHER fucking app to add all your information, and no doubt it'll be scanning and tracking everything you do, and it's okay, because you didn't HAVE to download it, but because you did, you'll forfeit any sort of privacy from government intrusion.
Every country that drinks the socialist kook aid and gets praised for it as an example of the modek working eventually turns out to be all smoke and mirrors and the consequences are an inescapable death spiral.
Honestly journos deserve beatings. Rebel is just as biased and run by the (((globalists))) as any other outlet. Canadaland was onto something but they're absolutely insufferable.
The only good news source is the The Globe and Mail, and only sometimes.
I've come to the conclusion recently that the issues people like us have with Canada is that we expect it to be a properly functioning nation, when all we have ever been is America's retarded son.
Keeping Canada around gives the US two votes on issues at the UN.
The only good thing about the Chinese taking over this country would be that they would put an end to this tranny and Hebrew nonsense. And hopefully behead our terrorist of a PM while he blubbers "But I let you fuck my wife!"
Ontario and BC are the worst. The rest of them are a spectrum.
I've been to Manitoba a few times and really liked it. Canada is much like the US, the big cultural hubs are totally cucked, while the smaller, more rual areas are ususally less cucked. If you only listened to news coming out of LA and New York, you'd have a much worse impression of the US than if you listened to news coming out of say, South Dakota.
You make great points. In my opinion, while BC can be way too hippy-ish and hypocritical sometimes, at least they tend to lack the fart-sniffing and general arrogance Ontario has. "Canada's natueal governing province, and the center of the country!"
Yeah, enjoy all the fucking homes you can't buy because you voted Liberal and they let corporations and the Chinese buy and hold all the supply. At least you have your Persian restaurant in downtown TO which sells fucking kabobs for $20.
I've come to the conclusion recently that the issues people like us have with Canada is that we expect it to be a properly functioning nation, when all we have ever been is America's retarded son.
I don't know for sure but I think this happened around 1968, or whenever it was Canada let the US get us involved in the Cold War. Before that it really seems Canada's culture was closer to the rest of the commonwealth's.
Honestly journos deserve beatings. Rebel is just as biased and run by the (((globalists))) as any other outlet. Canadaland was onto something but they're absolutely insufferable.
The only good news source is the The Globe and Mail, and only sometimes.
How long before journos from the Globe & Mail, Ottawa Citizen, Vancouver Sun, Montreal Gazette, Montreal La Presse, etc got the same treatment? They're too busy to lick the goverment boots for tax credits and all.
You make great points. In my opinion, while BC can be way too hippy-ish and hypocritical sometimes, at least they tend to lack the fart-sniffing and general arrogance Ontario has. "Canada's natueal governing province, and the center of the country!"
Yeah, enjoy all the fucking homes you can't buy because you voted Liberal and they let corporations and the Chinese buy and hold all the supply. At least you have your Persian restaurant in downtown TO which sells fucking kabobs for $20.
How is BC hippy-ish? most cities there are Chinese resort towns or backwoods bear country full of hosers who vote Conservative. Not really getting the ''hippy'' vibe from there. I have found Vancouver people (just for example) about three times more stuck up than those in Toronto which is hard to out pace as Toronto folks are super nasty and entitled.
BC is known to be full of Asians and hipsters if you're anywhere near the coast. Van Island is pretty much owned by the rich and upper class, if it wasn't bought by Chinese. They also suffer from the same issue as the Atlantic provinces and yet have an entire year to work vs the 6 months before snow freezes everything to the ground. Not only that but there is a SEVERE opioid problem and dozens of tent encampments anywhere near major cities - in fact the homeless will train hop to get to BC because you don't contend with the snow.
If you want to live in the forest with a dirt road that's never maintained 3 hours to the nearest hospital then sure but if you aren't working from home with serious outdoor skills then it's a dumb move. Newfoundland has its own culture that relies upon other Newfies - they're not actually that helpful to those who move there from other parts of the country. In fact they rarely even participate in Atlantic Canada as a whole. It's essentially being from the South and having a New Yorker come visit. The Atlantic is FILLED with several generations of inbred Acadians and it shows.
People consistently underestimate the Canadian wilderness and how harsh it is to live away from the cities and large populations. There's a reason most of us congregated where we did - if the rest of it was truly habitable for the average person, wouldn't we already be there?
I've now heard of multiple people under the age of 30 killing themselves in the past month. No one in that age bracket will ever own a home.
The boomers decided to retire because they were done dealing with Covid and it seems like instead of promoting anyone from within, all of these companies started searching to replace someone with decades of experience by looking for the same qualifications, leaving most recent graduates in the dust while companies complain about a labour shortage.
For the jobs that do hire, you'll be paid $14.35/hr on part time hours with no benefits, no sick days and you'll be required to use your own car and pay for your own gas to run the occasional delivery for the place on top of your regular duties. Or change the diapers of handicapped adults for the same amount. And you'll be required to pay for the police record check and anything else they need from you, despite the common sentiment being that the businesses should foot that bill.
The only thing I hear anyone talk about when I'm in public is the effects of the pandemic on their lives. Whether that be some brainwashed sentiment about vaccines or losing their job or not seeing family for a second year etc. You can turn off the news and social media but you really can't escape it. I have started wondering if the Great Depression actually meant that everyone wants to kill themselves and hates being alive during these down times in history.
I personally live in an unending nervous breakdown and can see every reason why someone would choose not to stick this out to see if the country fixes itself. There is no "good" province - they're all garbage. Alberta lifted restrictions too early and overran their ICUs. Quebec will watch you freeze to death before batting an eyelash. Manitoba is gangs and reserves (sometimes together). Saskatchewan.... there's nothing there. Never in the history of Canada has anyone said we should move there. The land is boring and flat and all you can do is farm. Everywhere else is too cold and too far away.
It's crazy Trudeau gave Nunavut 10$ a day daycare but he will not address the fact they pay $50 for 1L of milk. It's like having Siberia and Texas in the exact same country and trying to lay down the same policies across the board. Second largest country in the world, the provinces are the size of European countries and multiple states combined. Quebec is not wrong- the provinces should be their own countries and we should be a Canadian Union (or for academics, the Canadian Shield) like the EU. Not ... whatever this clusterfuck is that the Queen is somehow responsible for.
I end this with people from the GTA are their own breed of people and I both hate and yet find comfort in the "Toronto mans". For everyone else, think of Drake cloned 500,000 times and that's a large population of the GTA.
People from BC are like ... David Suzuki. Very white bread culture (if not Asian) and honestly, the white people in Canada are the inbred hicks (eta: see the Goler clan) so I try to avoid all-white populations or heavily Asian/white populations.
Jagmeet Singh left the GTA to pander to the woke hipsters in BC despite the NDP having a big Ontario following because of Jack Layton. People in the GTA would only see him as a brown guy with a turban. And I'm not sure it's well known but the blacks and Indians have territory wars in the GTA, so not only do the white people hate them because they're racist, but the blacks don't trust them either, and the Chinese Asians would rather support one of their own.
Newfoundland has its own culture that relies upon other Newfies - they're not actually that helpful to those who move there from other parts of the country.
Oh yeah dude, don't ever move here if you're not from here originally. There's a reason our immigration retention rate is under 50%. If you're not from Newfoundland you'll always be "That guy from the mainland."
You might be OK in like, Downtown St. John's or Centre City, but that's about it. That's where everyone who's not from here lives and they barely go further west than Columbus Drive. That's going to be the future of Newfoundland, an increasingly dense city core in St. John's full of people who aren't Newfies that are doctors and university professors and shit with all the Newfies in the suburbs and rural areas coming in to fix their houses for them and shit.
In fact they rarely even participate in Atlantic Canada as a whole. It's essentially being from the South and having a New Yorker come visit.
A lot of people who aren't at least from Atlantic Canada don't understand how patriotic we are. This guy I know from Nova Scotia brought his wife who was from Ontario here once and she kept talking about Nova Scotia and Newfoundland like it was the same place. I had to surpress an overwhelming urge to slap her. There have been government studies done on this. Here's one from 2013. Newfies sense of belonging in their province is way higher than every other province, even Quebec. It's up around 65%.
Oh yeah dude, don't ever move here if you're not from here originally. There's a reason our immigration retention rate is under 50%. If you're not from Newfoundland you'll always be "That guy from the mainland."
You might be OK in like, Downtown St. John's or Centre City, but that's about it. That's where everyone who's not from here lives and they barely go further west than Columbus Drive. That's going to be the future of Newfoundland, an increasingly dense city core in St. John's full of people who aren't Newfies that are doctors and university professors and shit with all the Newfies in the suburbs and rural areas coming in to fix their houses for them and shit.
I'm a mainland-er with genetic ancestry on the east coast on both sides but nothing from Newfoundland. I grew up around Newfies and spent some time on the East coast.
I can appreciate the beauty and sense of inclusive belonging the Atlantic provinces have - they are all very different and have different ways of life but PEI, NB and NS are very intertwined in travel and trade. Newfies are completely useless to survival when they are all on the same waters as well, but that's not to say they're useless - they are usually the life of a Canadian party and generally good people. They just have no reason to participate or be invited to join besides location.
My family were travellers and ancestry back to the settlers and I've decided the woods of Quebec sounds the best to me. They have a fairly strong resource position and more forward thinking - I like the Quebec politicians, there's this young guy with glasses and a ponytail that continually calls everyone out in the House meetings and has ideals I can relate with. I'm not a heavy Conservative so Alberta wouldn't be for me, the Liberalism of the coastal provinces is very broken, the NDP only serves as a tie breaker with progressive ideas that have no real strategy behind it, much like the other two parties.
The Bloc are really no nonsense and only invested in the interests of the citizens it takes care of because it's obvious they'd otherwise be given the blanket treatment that the entire country receives. At least they can work towards having a say on a more federal level vs being stuck being told what to do by the few in the party that have the opportunity to be apart of parliamentary procedures.
I've never lived in Quebec but I honestly would be okay moving there if the biggest obstacle is learning French. If all I have to do is speak French to be considered a real citizen and not someone who just moved there (as the east coast mostly feels) then that's a pretty fair trade to participate in something I feel slightly better about.
Alas I'm a millennial who owns nothing so I'm probably stuck where I am right now.
@Totallyunknown the fact that the only retailer territories is an actual honest to goodness monopoly makes me angry when I think about it, so I try not to.
Canada's main problem is it doesn't have a real constitution. This is a great argument for why the US had to break away from the UK. It allowed US citizens to get actual enumerated rights that can't be be rescinded by the government on a whim. It's the same problem with Australia, etc.
Canada's main problem is it doesn't have a real constitution. This is a great argument for why the US had to break away from the UK. It allowed US citizens to get actual enumerated rights that can't be be rescinded by the government on a whim. It's the same problem with Australia, etc.
I mean, we technically have one, but we can't actually DO anything with it - thanks to Trudeau Sr, Quebec basically has a veto to any changes we want to make to it because they didn't sign a piece of paper back in the day.
Are Quebecois outside of Montreal accepting of Anglos who move there, if they make an effort to learn French? A lot of Francos I know resent Anglos and have a 150+ year chip on their shoulders.
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