Canada is a failed state

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The pipeline is owned by the communist party of China via state owned entreprise and the larger dutch oil company. There's no fucking way either are caving to enviros or indigenous nonsense.

Remember the Dutch oil company in Nigeria? They aren't above ANYTHING. And the CEO of the subsidiary they spun off to shield the mother company is a real prize. He's fresh off several humiliating defeats in court.

We're into third world shit here, and the Canadian government has absolutely no idea how to intervene. The population are stunned. They really expected the government to have some influence over corporate depravity.

They don't, y'all. The RCMP work for the corporations.

(I dunno much about security, but try not to use the name of the oil company. Null is having a hard month.)
Coastal Gaslink is good though, as Australia showed with coal you can push China around by their energy supply. We would just need a government willing to do it. Sell China cheap gas and threaten to cut it off when they misbehave. It works for Russia against Germany.

In enviromental terms, displacing coal with natural gas is not ideal but it's better. A gas pipeline failure might cause some methane emission but it wouldn't pollute the immediate enviroment like bitumen would.
 
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Coastal Gaslink is good though, as Australia showed with coal you can push China around by their energy supply. We would just need a government willing to do it. Sell China cheap gas and threaten to cut it off when they misbehave. It works for Russia against Germany.

In enviromental terms, displacing coal with natural gas is not ideal but it's better. A gas pipeline failure might cause some methane emission but it wouldn't pollute the immediate enviroment like bitumen would.
This is more optimistic than I am. I don't think any level of leadership in Canada has the intellect or courage to stand up to China.

The pipeline is good, but I really wish these companies wouldn't wave the red flag so hard at enviros.
 
Quite a sobering thread. It is sad, Canada was one of the very few countries remaining that I pondered moving to. If not, then what else can you all recommend for an Eastern European like me, who wants to be nowhere near Europe?
Why you don't wanna be in eastern Europe? Where abouts are you?

I'm in Poland and things are pretty good here (yes the government is fucked up a bit and Catholic church needs to die off already) but I've never seen so many expats flocking to Poland, especially Warsaw, Kraków and Wrocław. You go out downtown Warsaw or Krakow and all you hear is different languages, mostly English being spoken.

My relatives recently relocated back to Poland from Canada after living there since the 80s as they couldn't take it anymore. They said Canada they once knew is gone. Their daughter came with them but is going back as she just finished her studies and also doesn't really speak Polish, we were chatting and she was saying things are completely fucked in Toronto and shit is so expensive you really need to make a lot of money to have a middle class standard of living, you can also forget about buying a shitty condo in some somalian ghetto because prices are totally intergalactic.
Anyways, my relatives had to rush and come back in October as they chose not to get vaccinated and in November they wouldnt be able to leave as the government banned the COVID vaccine free people from accessing planes and trains.

Poland is a weird country, has some human rights issues such as abortion ban etc, but that's government and i know this will change. But I can't imagine my country bending over to take a vaccine mandated by the government. Theyd drag these in power out of their homes and beat the shit out of them and posted it on Twitter.
 
Canada is NOT a failed state, you idiot, you clown, you absolute buffoon. It's a failed society and a playground for the ultra rich.

It's the pinnacle of neoliberal political maneuvers, a giant machine to extract money from proles. It has a standing army, federal government and working police apparatus. Nothing here has failed, everything is going according to plan.

The fact anyone lives, or tries to live, in Canada is unfortunate. The country is essentially a giant strainer, millions of third world immigrants get sifted through and sent back, the dollars that fall out the bottom get sent directly to offshore accounts.
 
Why you don't wanna be in eastern Europe? Where abouts are you?

I'm in Poland and things are pretty good here (yes the government is fucked up a bit and Catholic church needs to die off already) but I've never seen so many expats flocking to Poland, especially Warsaw, Kraków and Wrocław. You go out downtown Warsaw or Krakow and all you hear is different languages, mostly English being spoken.

My relatives recently relocated back to Poland from Canada after living there since the 80s as they couldn't take it anymore. They said Canada they once knew is gone. Their daughter came with them but is going back as she just finished her studies and also doesn't really speak Polish, we were chatting and she was saying things are completely fucked in Toronto and shit is so expensive you really need to make a lot of money to have a middle class standard of living, you can also forget about buying a shitty condo in some somalian ghetto because prices are totally intergalactic.
Anyways, my relatives had to rush and come back in October as they chose not to get vaccinated and in November they wouldnt be able to leave as the government banned the COVID vaccine free people from accessing planes and trains.

Poland is a weird country, has some human rights issues such as abortion ban etc, but that's government and i know this will change. But I can't imagine my country bending over to take a vaccine mandated by the government. Theyd drag these in power out of their homes and beat the shit out of them and posted it on Twitter.
I live in Hungary and am (unfortunately) a born Hungarian. I want to be nowhere near any part of Europe because it will be flooded with Muslims, who will not be peacable with non-Muslims once they become the majority, and because its too close to Israel and Saudi Arabia (and their vicinity), where WWIII will be at its worst, and because Europe has descended into apostasy from which it has no intention to turn.
 
@Never Scored Hearing all the crazy news about Toronto made me think I would never again go to Canada--it is good to hear Newfoundland has de facto freedom.

Which other provinces are OK? Is it only Ontario that is pozzed or are most of them that way?
 
@Never Scored Hearing all the crazy news about Toronto made me think I would never again go to Canada--it is good to hear Newfoundland has de facto freedom.

Which other provinces are OK? Is it only Ontario that is pozzed or are most of them that way?
Ontario and BC are the worst. The rest of them are a spectrum.

I've been to Manitoba a few times and really liked it. Canada is much like the US, the big cultural hubs are totally cucked, while the smaller, more rual areas are ususally less cucked. If you only listened to news coming out of LA and New York, you'd have a much worse impression of the US than if you listened to news coming out of say, South Dakota.
 
I live in Hungary and am (unfortunately) a born Hungarian. I want to be nowhere near any part of Europe because it will be flooded with Muslims, who will not be peacable with non-Muslims once they become the majority, and because its too close to Israel and Saudi Arabia (and their vicinity), where WWIII will be at its worst, and because Europe has descended into apostasy from which it has no intention to turn.

Did your mom drop you on your head when you were a baby?

You're from Visehrad . Poland, Hungary, Czechia and Slovakia are pretty much Muslim free.

You wanna move to Canada to escape Muslims? Hahahaha...That's funny since it's full of them and growing.
 
Did your mom drop you on your head when you were a baby?

You're from Visehrad . Poland, Hungary, Czechia and Slovakia are pretty much Muslim free.

You wanna move to Canada to escape Muslims? Hahahaha...That's funny since it's full of them and growing.
As soon as the Muslims eat up all the welfare and surplus resources in Western Europe they will turn eastward. Eastern Europe has been put into a state of terminal social rot by communism and apostasy, the Islamic horde will have an even easier time there than in the west.

And Canada was only 1 out of 4 countries I considered.
 
As soon as the Muslims eat up all the welfare and surplus resources in Western Europe they will turn eastward. Eastern Europe has been put into a state of terminal social rot by communism and apostasy, the Islamic horde will have an even easier time there than in the west.

And Canada was only 1 out of 4 countries I considered.

But there is no welfare in eastern Europe, at least not in Poland. We're also thriving right now, communism ended 30 years ago, nothing is rotting.

Also curious which other 3 countries are on your list. US, Australia and NZ?
 
I just have to know what the other three countries you consider on par with Canada and above Europe are.

But there is no welfare in eastern Europe, at least not in Poland. We're also thriving right now, communism ended 30 years ago, nothing is rotting.

Also curious which other 3 countries are on your list. US, Australia and NZ?
The other three countries I considered are Russia, Chile and Argentina. I know, they are not exactly heaven on Earth with corruption and all that, but all three could grant more effective sanctuary against globohomo and WWIII than anywhere in Europe. Far away from Israel and Saudi, have mountainous terrain, and not as pozzed as the US or Canada.

Australia and NZ are out of the question; they would be just as expensive and difficult to get to as Latin America and are much more pozzed; the USA has the same issues, plus its the no. 1 fren and supporter of Israel, so it would be a high-heat target in the coming chaos.
 
Canada is NOT a failed state, you idiot, you clown, you absolute buffoon. It's a failed society and a playground for the ultra rich.

It's the pinnacle of neoliberal political maneuvers, a giant machine to extract money from proles. It has a standing army, federal government and working police apparatus. Nothing here has failed, everything is going according to plan.

The fact anyone lives, or tries to live, in Canada is unfortunate. The country is essentially a giant strainer, millions of third world immigrants get sifted through and sent back, the dollars that fall out the bottom get sent directly to offshore accounts.

If we rewind to the 1980's when the U.K and the U.S went into neoliberal hyperdrive Canada still flirted with Keynesian style economics that decade enough to stave off the transformation into a capitalist dystopia. Mulroney was conservative (I suppose) but he even was quoted something along the lines of saying he wasn't interested in bringing in a Thatcher-Reagan economic plan. However... however... Canada has caught up in recent times. Now this is where it gets ironic, our **recent** version of neoliberalism makes the U.S and the U.K's look like a trip to the Sunday picnic. Greed runs free in Canada like no other country in the current times. We have the highest level of inequality in all G7 nations.

Sigh, we had so much of a stall. Life was so easy at the beginning of the 2010's. You could buy a house for 200k in the GTA and we had arguably a pretty decent work life balance.
 
I believe that the pendulum could swing hard the other way, but it would be a very, very difficult proposition.

Frankly, I think that English Canada is cucked to hell, but French Canada does seem to be much more aware of what's going on in the world abroad, not afraid to tout it's own national identity, and not afraid to call out the bullshit of other parties.

I don't believe that the bloc would translate well in English Canada, but if you do look at what they have done over the past few years, it is a breath of fresh air. When the NDP said that the RCMP was a racist institution, the bloc had the gall to say "Well, we should investigate that" (and got called racist for it). When other cultures demand their place in Quebecois society, the bloc insists that the French identity be first regardless. When Western Canada kowtows to native issues, the bloc often avoids the cuckhold pageantry out west.

I do believe that Canada has its own national identity, both English and French, but the English identity in Canada has frankly lost its soul and that is what I worry for the most.

Maybe there is a chance that Canada could revive itself, could create a new identity that is uniquely Canadian, but as it is Ontario is largely just an extension of Toronto now, and BC the same for Hongcouver.

As for economics, thats always up for debate. I think that English Canada is fucked, and French Canada does have a chance at remaining something of its own.
TBH, Quebec is still a North American culture, and can't truly escape the orbit of the Neoliberal American Imperial culture. The distance is still decreasing, and no matter how many intellectuals France exchanges with Quebec, the power of America is still reigning supreme.

I.e. their BLM protests, the fact that Montreal is just as cucked as Toronto, the fact that their version of immigration is just a language-flipped version of English Canada (anyone goes as long as they speak French), and the fact that Legault was among the first premiers to cuck and lockdown on the virus despite his initially tough election stances*- beyond the language, it's just the same Internationalism as English Canada, just running as a slightly slower speed.

Keep in mind that nowadays, most Canadian provinces' primary economy activity is with the US, that's how siloed and 'unified' the country is- it has always been vertical cultural extensions of US states to the south (even Quebec to an extent), and there are even ridiculous economic barriers between provinces. The country isn't even energy independent, as no province can agree on expanding pipelines across Canada.

Ultimately Quebec will not leave, as being in Canada is just too comfy (especially with Federal dollars).

* TBH, I think that Quebec's Liberals and its institutions like Hydro Quebec and the CDPQ were responsible for laying down Quebec's economic/budgetary issues and fixing most of them, Legault arrived just as the economy was starting to pick up. Quebec was lucky as it mostly sat out the privatization spree of the 80s and 90s and isn't unwilling to intervene more heavily in its economy (using Federal dollars).

Canada is NOT a failed state, you idiot, you clown, you absolute buffoon. It's a failed society and a playground for the ultra rich.

It's the pinnacle of neoliberal political maneuvers, a giant machine to extract money from proles. It has a standing army, federal government and working police apparatus. Nothing here has failed, everything is going according to plan.

The fact anyone lives, or tries to live, in Canada is unfortunate. The country is essentially a giant strainer, millions of third world immigrants get sifted through and sent back, the dollars that fall out the bottom get sent directly to offshore accounts.
This, IMO- Canada is brand, a holding. That's why you'll always see the Canada logo at the end of every government ad, it's the brand asserting itself. That's why Trudeau Jr. referred to Canada as a post-national country.

Its culture died in the 90s (even the 80s had a distinct awkward yet fuzzy 'Canadiana' culture) and no longer exists. It will not be allowed to fail.

Canadians are the most disgustingly liberal cucks I have ever met. Imagine the naive cuckery of the Scandinavian, crossed with the British reluctance to raise a fuss, with a dash of Frog-flavoured Marxism to round things out and you get the Canadian.
IMO the privatization of the national corporations + culture-building during the 90s-onwards was the groundwork for this decline. Canada is ultimately a case of resting on one's laurels, and switching to the slow lane. It's like getting constantly praised for being the nice guy in high school who didn't get into trouble (avoiding the worst of the 2008 recession), and then slacking off and realizing that your grades aren't high enough to reach uni, and no one in the admissions team cares about being nice.

The fundamental issue is that there is no Texas or Florida in Canada, no powerful conservative province that can act as a counterbalance. So as such, the nation's issues are fundamentally about Ontario vs Quebec. Alberta is rich, no doubt, but it cannot exist as a nation, it lacks the population, and a culture-building period like in the US conservative states. It also lacks a coastline, so it is always either at the mercy of the Americans or reliant on the Federal government to resolve its issues in BC.

As a side note to add about Quebec - Montreal is the only major city with 2010 rent rates. You can find an extremely nice two bedroom apartment for $800 all inclusive. No one wants to learn French though. I also mention renting because any Canadian not born to moderately wealthy parents will never buy a house in their lifetime, let alone qualify for a mortgage or reasonable down payment.
TBH, Montreal has a huge housing glut from when it was Canada's prime metropole. It's a lot denser with its duplexes/triplexes (apartments), and only really started recovering from its 70s-00s slump by the mid-2010s. It's the equivalent of New York being completely affordable for artists during the 80s and 90s because of the huge inventory of pre-war housing and a population below its peak.

It will catch up quickly as other Canadians and hedge funds take notice; language isn't even all that big of an issue there (and even less so than in the 70s-90s). I would actually recommend that people look into property there if possible.
 
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More on immigration:

At this point, I’m not even worried about whites being replaced when just about every other immigrant coworker I have is straight up waiting until the pandemic shit ends to go back home.

When going back to Iraq/India/Lebanon/Syria/Haiti is preferable to living in Canada, that’s a sign of things starting to look bleak to put it lightly.

Even my African coworker is contemplating returning to Ghana because of how backwards Canada is. She said she enjoyed a much higher standard of living in Ghana than here, and that her medical education doesn’t seem to be worth Jack shit with how our hospitals run on unionized nepotism.

There’s also a dude from Hong Kong that lives down the street from me who feels ripped off by the “Canadian dream”.

I now want to know what the statistics on immigrants fleeing from Canada are now. If it’s getting downplayed, it’s probably way worse.

This is info that our own cucked government has admitted to. Goddamn it’s worse than I thought. I guess people don’t want to live in this progressive authoritarian hellhole after all

Coverage from CTV over it

There’s also people straight up saying immigrating to Canada is a net loss for all parties
I honestly think that the pandemic was a huge tipping point for all of this, especially with the stupid hysteria, lockdowns and mandates. I have heard of huge numbers of dual citizens just leaving for indeterminate periods of time along with their spouses and children to avoid the lockdowns and mandates.

Secondly, the fact that skilled immigration is absolutely being wasted because their degrees weren't being recognized, this was an issue being raised going back into the 90s, but I think that the whole bootstraps image + highly visible images of immigrant success was able to smooth over a lot of that. However, this is also an issue with the cartels in Canada (Telecom, Dairy, Doctors, etc.), which almost act as pseudo-Guilds, and their resistance and power means it's very politically expensive to resolve this issue.

Overall, the issue is that it's economically getting harder for all Canadians, and as a result, it's even harder for newer immigrants if they haven't had the time to settle in yet- it's not just an issue that immigrants face. Anyone, Canadian and immigrant alike, who missed the pre-2010 boat and is unable to buy property is NGMI.

So yeah, a lot of post-2000s immigrants are royally getting screwed over. The pandemic was the cherry on this crap cake, and I can understand why many are having second thoughts.

Ironically enough, tons of immigrants go to the US anyways once they get credentialed, opportunity is always better there no matter what.

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I feel like if any country in the Americas is the most likely to go full genuine fascy, it is Canada. Or at least, it’s the country where you’re more likely to see the wrath of the Anglo-Saxons come to fruition outside of BritBong land.

As someone else pointed out in this thread, Canadians are known for being passive aggressive and are slowly losing the passive bit. You’d be hard pressed to find any Canuck who isn’t getting sick of the nonsense that’s being pushed by our pozzed-out government.
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With the inevitable collapse on the way, plus Trudeau becoming increasingly more authoritarian, the truth about the child rape schools coming out and the housing crisis radicalizing even the most hardened white nationalist in Canada, I really don’t see it ending well for leftists here. The fact they have to double down is a symptom that they know they’re losing control.

In public a lot of us act like Pozzed out leafs… but in private, I find most of my white friends are getting more comfortable with saying that maybe we fought the wrong enemies in the 40s, given all the tranny shit that keeps getting pushed in schools.

Oh, and I also was told about a bunch of parents grabbing LGBTPOZA books from elementary school libraries containing soft core pornography and outright burning them. Surprisingly, authorities don’t seem to care and the schools just think the books are lost forever.

That said, I’m not looking forward to the inevitable ideological genocide that the right is sharpening their teeth to commit this time. It’s a necessary evil at this point, but I get the feeling it’s going to get much worse.
Agree with this, there are huge numbers of Canadians who know how crappy the country has become in the last while, but the issue is that the Liberal stranglehold on culture and government is much stronger. On the flipside, this may mean that a truly conservative government can be more far-reaching, states rights are weaker than in the US, and the governments here can very clear pull up some very non-democractic stuff with the notwithstanding clause.

I do think that a lot of the potential leadership material ends up migrating to the US anyways, Canada’s loss.
 
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Here, this is good for illustrative purposes. Look at the legislative buildings in the different provinces. Look at ours compared to the others. It's just stuck out in the woods on some hills. That's the biggest building in Newfoundland and it's in the middle of the only actual city in the province and there's so much open space around it, you could disappear and and never be found while still being within a mile of the provincial legislature. This is why if you put a gun to my head and told me I had to move the the mainland or get shot I'd go, "Just fucking shoot me, dude." Lower density = freedom.
 
All the issues that have been rearing their ugly head over the last couple of decades have hit their boiling point. Inflation is insane, so insane that the cost of living month over month now gets more difficult to maintain. The concept of the middle class died long ago, you are either rich, or poor on government assistance. Immigration is ridiculous, so ridiculous that they will literally just take anyone and their dog in at this point for fake prosperity points. Even though these are the same people that add very little to the economy and just drain the already strained government services. You cannot say what you think, you cannot go into a building without a middle, and you cannot go even on an evening out with out having the violation of personal privacy known as the Vax passes.

Housing prices are some of the highest in the globe at this stage, and more people by the day are losing their collective asses because of the absurd cost of living anymore. All of the jobs have been outsourced to third world shit holes. The ones that are left, barely pay enough for the basic amenities. The taxing has gotten so out of control that you can kiss a good chunk of your pay cheque goodbye off the top.

The only solutions are the same neoliberal dog shit solutions that have never worked but yet you still have the same bugmen advocates still pushing the same dogma, it's a fucking crap shoot really. My advice to anyone thinking of coming here, don't.
Look on the bright side: if they really do replace the police and military with diversity hires and encumber them with red tape, you can just steal what you need to survive and squat in homes owned by foreigners.
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At this point, I’m not even worried about whites being replaced when just about every other immigrant coworker I have is straight up waiting until the pandemic shit ends to go back home.
You think the pandemic will ever end when there are do-nothing bureaucratic jobs to be had from it? It will end only when there is no way for them to enforce it, after the police and military are too degraded to act.

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I feel like if any country in the Americas is the most likely to go full genuine fascy, it is Canada. Or at least, it’s the country where you’re more likely to see the wrath of the Anglo-Saxons come to fruition outside of BritBong land.

As someone else pointed out in this thread, Canadians are known for being passive aggressive and are slowly losing the passive bit. You’d be hard pressed to find any Canuck who isn’t getting sick of the nonsense that’s being pushed by our pozzed-out government.
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With the inevitable collapse on the way, plus Trudeau becoming increasingly more authoritarian, the truth about the child rape schools coming out and the housing crisis radicalizing even the most hardened white nationalist in Canada, I really don’t see it ending well for leftists here. The fact they have to double down is a symptom that they know they’re losing control.

In public a lot of us act like Pozzed out leafs… but in private, I find most of my white friends are getting more comfortable with saying that maybe we fought the wrong enemies in the 40s, given all the tranny shit that keeps getting pushed in schools.

Oh, and I also was told about a bunch of parents grabbing LGBTPOZA books from elementary school libraries containing soft core pornography and outright burning them. Surprisingly, authorities don’t seem to care and the schools just think the books are lost forever.

That said, I’m not looking forward to the inevitable ideological genocide that the right is sharpening their teeth to commit this time. It’s a necessary evil at this point, but I get the feeling it’s going to get much worse.
If you can't beat the state in a throw down fight, then don't have such a fight. Milk the system. Lie, cheat, and steal if you can get away with it, and if you're not sure test the waters will small stuff.

The government can't function if everyone behaves like Sicilians, so become a spiritual Italian. And constantly harass the government that there's not enough diversity in the government positions that can stop you from doing this. If all the police are gay, women, trans, disabled, brown, and non-Christian then they will be too divided and weak to effectively restrain you.

It's almost like a video game. If a boss is too strong to beat in a fair fight, then blind them. Degrade every aspect of their ability to harm you, from the start with their ability to perceive you all the way to when they would start shooting at you. Every possible way that you can degrade their functioning without getting in trouble should be done, especially if you get woke brownie points for doing it.
 
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