Canada is a failed state

[TurdFondler]

Those kinds of scams only work if your home currency and standard of living are dog shit. I've met migrants who were stoked at the idea of earning any Canadian dollars, 3 years of that income would set them up back home. If you come from a moderately developed country or are expecting a big lifestyle upgrade you're going to be disappointed.

 

[Anti-Intellectual]

If you leaf’s need a white pill, then I’m happy to report that my city showed support for the Truckers Convoy, with restaurants offering discounts to anyone who shows support on it via Social media.

Most of the folks also are seeing through any media attempts to either spin it as a right wing thing or as an environmental protest against bad roads.

Let’s see how it goes. For once, I am starting to feel some optimism about this country

I'm holding some cautious optimism for it so far. Trudeau is a stubborn idiot and will hold out as long as he can, this initiative must put serious pressure on him and everyone around him for it to work.

 

[TurdFondler]

Has this been posted here?

r/india - I regret coming to go to Canada and it's only been a month since I stepped foot here (The reality of going to Canada as a student)

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Pajeet btfo

 

[Sweetpeaa]

Modern Canada is an example of free market capitalism unrestricted but without wages or the innovation to survive within the system.

Americans 'love' the free market but would they love it if they made nearly half of what they currently make? would they stand behind it even with houses in the smallest-middle of nowhere towns far from major cities going into the millions? What about if they tried to start a company and the profits were absolutely meager? (most business owners make PEANUTS in Canada). There is a reason why Canada can't produce a Jeff Bezo's.

Canada has transformed itself into truly one of the worst countries in the world. I say that without hyberbole. Average citizens will have the utmost worst quality of life here than any country in the G7. Most adults eat less than one FUCKING meal a day because they can't afford groceries even full time employed. People with children skip entire days without food so their kids can eat. Unlike America there is no ''food stamps'' either. So many people are upgrading their degrees and taking out loans so they can move to the U.S.

 

[Ser Prize]

Has this been posted here?

r/india - I regret coming to go to Canada and it's only been a month since I stepped foot here (The reality of going to Canada as a student)

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Pajeet btfo

"Oh no I came to this country to nickle and dime it and am suffering from other immigrants doing the same! How ever could I see this happening!"

Modern Canada is an example of free market capitalism unrestricted but without wages or the innovation to survive within the system.

What the fuck are you talking about? Canada isn't free market at all.

 

[Sweetpeaa]

"Oh no I came to this country to nickle and dime it and am suffering from other immigrants doing the same! How ever could I see this happening!"


What the fuck are you talking about? Canada isn't free market at all.

It certainly is.

 

[Ser Prize]

It certainly is.

No it isn't, not at all. There's so many regulations that force smaller companies out of competing it's insane.

 

[Anonymus Fluhre]

My oldest has a class called "Steam" instead of just "Stem". They just had to showhorn arts into tech class. I'm serious. My kids are fucking based and obsessed with machinery anyway, so they'll be fine, but lol.

We started homeschooling our kids this year until we move. Currently public schools can't teach children and there's a high chance that the school will close down because current bullshit. Children also don't get to play or even just socialize. Next year they should be in a private school so I shouldn't have to deal with too much crap. Sadly, my taxes still have to be used to pay off the useless public school system and there's no deductions or exemptions for putting children through private schooling.

At least I've noticed between a 12% to even 45% increase in their grades.

 

[DiscoRodeo]

I remember seeing this video with this feisty Indian immigrant woman who was telling the truth about the lives of foreign workers in Canada. She was working for a temp agency that mainly used Indians and she explained it was at a basic level a slavery scheme. She said there is little to no opportunity to move ahead.

It basically is. I remember working in operations and finding out that this was the hiring scheme for one of the companies I worked at, that contractually these 'student-employees' had to be open to a 24 hour shift schedule and this was signed because they often needed work to remain in Canada when not in school. You had people sign up, when they were to return to school there was constructive dismisal where their shifts were switched to overnight, but guess what? These pajeets still kept on with the job and school.

It wasn't slave labor, but its highly exploitative. Shifts could be switched in the middle of the week, you could go from a morning shift to an overnight one, work itself was incredibly dysfunctional in treatment, there was no job security or longevity because this was all contractual and renewed after 3 months continuously, etc.

I call them temp agencies, but they're anything but. Most of the major financial institutions are using them (especially in Insurance) and for the entry level or more basic clerical work, they almost always hire exclusively through an outside agency practicing in this.

I feel bad for the Indians, but can't forget the actual Canadians as well, who are stuck in the midst of this and wondering about what the fuck happened to labor standards or getting a food in the door.

 

[InteracialBowelSyndrome]

Wonder if one of his wife's boyfriends gave it to him. Eat shit, Prime Minister Castro.

PM Trudeau in isolation after COVID-19 exposure

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau says he will be isolating for five days, after being exposed to someone who has tested positive for COVID-19. Trudeau said in a tweet Thursday morning that he learned about the exposure Wednesday night.

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[Jarolleon]

This is what really disappoints me the most, in all honesty.

Power leveling a little bit, but as I'm no longer in said province- Ontario was basically full of this. It seems like the majority of clerical jobs or basic IT jobs either contract through temp agencies now, or are heading towards that. These agencies aren't technically "temp labor", in that bigger corporations tend to hire people for 3 - 6 month contracts at a time continuously. It prevents someone from getting tenure, your contract can simply not be renewed if the labor market worsens, etc.

Whats happening within this is a majority of people winding up in these jobs are students from overseas, who are willing to put up with "your shifts are what we say they are, you have no job security, and you will be making minimum or basically minimum".

Almost every tech or clerical job I've worked in has a permanent cycling in and out of students from India now. Thats also the ones who can get a clerical job, or, as you say, they wind up working for minimum at a restaurant, but on call to have their shift switched to any time in a 24 hour cycle.

It's really disheartening in a sense, as I can sympathize, but this system really cannot sustain itself, is pretty predatory, and I don't see things turning out very well for Canadian citizens as a whole who want something more than contract work like this. I genuinely think it is evident that the current generation's standard of living is taking a hike in comparison to the previous one's.

So we're basically converting our reputation into money to save the boomers, hoping that they'll die off before we run out of ignorant third-worlders to scam work out of?

Edit: Canada runs off the same business model as Blizzard Entertainment c. 2018 ?

 

[SevenEightNine]

So we're basically converting our reputation into money to save the boomers, hoping that they'll die off before we run out of ignorant third-worlders to scam work out of?

yes. That's the entire business ethos in Canada. It's short sighted and visionless, and depressing AF. Our Universities couldn't survive on domestic student populations, not even close. Domestic students are minorities in the useful programs. Canada's research funding is abysmal compared to the US or other G7 heavy hitters.

Our leadership don't believe in a future, so we don't have one. We are being turned into a farm for slave labor, to be exploited by whatever conglomerate puppeteers the politicians of the day.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

So we're basically converting our reputation into money to save the boomers, hoping that they'll die off before we run out of ignorant third-worlders to scam work out of?

Edit: Canada runs off the same business model as Blizzard Entertainment c. 2018 ?

"Save the boomers"....I got the feeling then Canada isn't the only country trying to save the boomers. I suspect a similar thing in the UK, France and parts of the United States.

 

[DiscoRodeo]

So we're basically converting our reputation into money to save the boomers, hoping that they'll die off before we run out of ignorant third-worlders to scam work out of?

Edit: Canada runs off the same business model as Blizzard Entertainment c. 2018 ?

I used to think I was tinfoil about this, but now, I'm not really sure.

Years ago, when pressed on retiring boomers and population replacement, I came to the thought that because of declining birth rates and a number of other complex issues that are debatable (increased diversification and specialization of labor, and further from that wealth being more and more stratified/concentrated, basic industrial jobs being shipped, etc) Western countries had to generate tax revenue in the future to support the retirement of boomers, so they were importing cheap labor from abroad, while also trying to be on the beneficial side of the global brain drain.

Moved to Europe awhile back, not going to highlight where, but political parties are entirely open about this where I currently live. I have actually heard left wing politicians talking about this on the news. "The importation of immigrants will replace our declining birth rate! That needed tax revenue will be generated by Indian doctors, Chinese entrepreneurs who want to move here, etc, because we can't be bothered to invest in our own youth!"

I genuinely believe that Canada is basically following suite here. I think that theres a ticking time bomb with boomers retirement, and trying to ensure that pensions will have people paying them further down the line is a huge concern. Its almost like Western economies are turning into big ponzi schemes, in a way.

It's a lot easier for companies to hire someone from the developing world with an already existing skillset, than it is to train their own next generation. Companies don't train people internally all that much any more. Your skillset is something that you are expected to come with. I think that, as a result of this, we definitely see companies simply importing more labor rather than developing it locally. I also think that the government knows this, and is complicit in making the process easier, because they just want a cut of the profit pie and likely need it as well.

 

[Jarolleon]

I used to think I was tinfoil about this, but now, I'm not really sure.

Years ago, when pressed on retiring boomers and population replacement, I came to the thought that because of declining birth rates and a number of other complex issues that are debatable (increased diversification and specialization of labor, and further from that wealth being more and more stratified/concentrated, basic industrial jobs being shipped, etc) Western countries had to generate tax revenue in the future to support the retirement of boomers, so they were importing cheap labor from abroad, while also trying to be on the beneficial side of the global brain drain.

Moved to Europe awhile back, not going to highlight where, but political parties are entirely open about this where I currently live. I have actually heard left wing politicians talking about this on the news. "The importation of immigrants will replace our declining birth rate! That needed tax revenue will be generated by Indian doctors, Chinese entrepreneurs who want to move here, etc, because we can't be bothered to invest in our own youth!"

I genuinely believe that Canada is basically following suite here. I think that theres a ticking time bomb with boomers retirement, and trying to ensure that pensions will have people paying them further down the line is a huge concern. Its almost like Western economies are turning into big ponzi schemes, in a way.

It's a lot easier for companies to hire someone from the developing world with an already existing skillset, than it is to train their own next generation. Companies don't train people internally all that much any more. Your skillset is something that you are expected to come with. I think that, as a result of this, we definitely see companies simply importing more labor rather than developing it locally. I also think that the government knows this, and is complicit in making the process easier, because they just want a cut of the profit pie and likely need it as well.

I wonder if this will get so bad that large numbers of youth will move to third world countries so they can get start their careers there as expats, so they'll have the skills to get a decent job in the first world by age 30. Thus in the "global village", countries become like neighborhoods, where your nationality depends on your ability to make money. In such a scenario it would be considered cruel to have a child in a first world country, because unless he is exceptionally gifted you're setting him up for a massive drop in quality of life when he comes of age, or at best to flounder around wasting daddy's money.

 

[DiscoRodeo]

I wonder if this will get so bad that large numbers of youth will move to third world countries so they can get their feet in the door there as expats, so they'll have the skills to get a decent job in the first world by age 30. Thus in the "global village", countries become like neighborhoods, where your nationality depends on your ability to make money. In such a scenario it would be considered cruel to have a child in a first world country, because unless he is exceptionally gifted you're setting him up for a massive drop in quality of life when he comes of age.

Ive seen people heading to the third world, but I don't think so to be honest.

I think that Canada is having its own brain drain, where the smart people either leave for the US if theyre able, or wind up abroad in other developed nations where, they may not be making bank, but there are still mid skill level jobs available.

I genuinely think that there are going to be major problems with this in the next 20 years, where once the state has failed an entire generation by selling out the nation to globohomo, the smart canadians will either already be living abroad and not interested in returning to whatever state the nation is in 20 years, or otherwise are going to still be in Canada, but just not interested in anything that props up said government.

 

[Leaf Wage Slave]

I genuinely think that there are going to be major problems with this in the next 20 years, where once the state has failed an entire generation by selling out the nation to globohomo, the smart canadians will either already be living abroad and not interested in returning to whatever state the nation is in 20 years, or otherwise are going to still be in Canada, but just not interested in anything that props up said government.

Full disclosure, the only reasons I stay in this frozen hellhole of a country are that I have a fairly small group of irl friends, and that I'll likely never be able to afford to move. Canada, by and large, is FUBAR. I figure it's only a matter of time before someone, eventually, does something stupid enough that the "Western Canada fucking leaves" meme actually happens - and honestly, I'd be all for it.

 

[MrJokerRager]

Watching this speech by Bret Hart is just topkek like praising gun control and shit lol.

 

[TurdFondler]

The brain drain started in the 90s and never stopped. The dotcom bubble was the beginning. Even IRL anyone I know with a globally in demand skillset has moved to the USA.

Canada will keep replacing native talent with 2nd world talent looking for a quality of life upgrade. We have a long ways to go until the country isn't attractive to chinks, slavs and pajeets. Any place you can afford a car and have some semblance of a 5 day work week is enticing to these people.

I don't know if I've posted it upthread but god damn do I hate working with contract workers. It's like groundhog day. Every few weeks you revisit the same issues because the office has changed again and no one knows anything.

 

[Lord Xenu]

The brain drain started in the 90s and never stopped. The dotcom bubble was the beginning.

It started long before this. My personal theory is Canada's actual decline began with the Avro Arrow.

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