Canada is a failed state

[SilentDuck]

I'm going to be 30 this year and live with my mom still. My mom who can't walk unassisted and can barely do basic tasks now. I'm pretty sure I'll see her die in the next ten years because her health just gets worse and worse and nobody can really tell why.
My sister is a raging tranny who no longer has any semblance of the girl I used to know in her. All she is now is roid rage, depression and droning on about the "LGBT mafia".
My country is falling apart and I don't see myself ever having land or vehicle. Never raising a family even though I keep looking.

All the positive things from my childhood and early 20's are gone. The town I live in is basically unrecognizable. All the places I used to go are closed. All the hobbies I used to do no longer have a scene here. Most of my friends have moved away.

I don't know why I'm writing this out. I wonder if any of you poor fucking fellow Canadians can relate. Everything that was once good in this country seems gone. I hate it. I hate it so much.

We are living in times of a massive and silent upheaval and changes especially for anyone living in the first world. The changes are not due to the tried and true reasons (ie, war, famine, deadly pestillence, etc) The reason is the egregious and continuing levels of wealth concentration that haven't existed since the days of the Pyramids.

Most people aren't going to do anything other than copious amounts of substances and thumping their genitals like simians. They are also going to keep a lot of their hardships and pain to themselves like they are embarrassed, that is the product of the neo-feudal globalist brainwashing now mixed into the background of culture. Globalists in general would prefer you keep it all to yourselves, and nowhere is that clearer than Canada.

 

[Jetpack Himmler]

We are living in times of a massive and silent upheaval and changes especially for anyone living in the first world. The changes are not due to the tried and true reasons (ie, war, famine, deadly pestillence, etc) The reason is the egregious and continuing levels of wealth concentration that haven't existed since the days of the Pyramids.

Most people aren't going to do anything other than copious amounts of substances and thumping their genitals like simians. They are also going to keep a lot of their hardships and pain to themselves like they are embarrassed, that is the product of the neo-feudal globalist brainwashing now mixed into the background of culture. Globalists in general would prefer you keep it all to yourselves, and nowhere is that clearer than Canada.

I thought that this would be pertinent to the discussion:

A recent Leger poll has 67% of Canadians agreeing that Canada is broken

While I do agree that Canadians have a tendency to suck up and take up it their rectum, even Leafs have their limits. The Freedom Convoy was one such manifestation of the growing discontent, which the government dismissed and then attempted to suppress with the invocation of the Emergency Act rather than actually address the underlying issues. Of course, the dimwits in Ottawa believe that the issue has been dealt with once the cleared out the protesters and continue on with business as usual. That is only to be expected as Ottawa is a government town that has only the most tenuous of connections to the realities of the world outside city limits.

 

[Kiwisee]

I thought that this would be pertinent to the discussion:

A recent Leger poll has 67% of Canadians agreeing that Canada is broken

While I do agree that Canadians have a tendency to suck up and take up it their rectum, even Leafs have their limits. The Freedom Convoy was one such manifestation of the growing discontent, which the government dismissed and then attempted to suppress with the invocation of the Emergency Act rather than actually address the underlying issues. Of course, the dimwits in Ottawa believe that the issue has been dealt with once the cleared out the protesters and continue on with business as usual. That is only to be expected as Ottawa is a government town that has only the most tenuous of connections to the realities of the world outside city limits.

The fact that Trudeau overreacted to the convoy is pretty telling. It single handedly destroyed the illusion that the Canadian government is beloved by their people, and that we all love Trudeau.

Truth is, everyone except for the Tru-anons (my favorite term for Trudeau supporters) actually like him. It’s been eight years since Harper was voted out, which is technically two terms worth of having power. Which means, he can’t blame Harper any longer without coming off as an out of touch idiot.

The cost of living has quadrupled under Trudeau. Homelessness has gotten much worse in my county since 2015. Most people can’t afford to own a home, and quickly are finding themselves unable to rent as well unless they get sub let or be roommates with sketchy people.

We’re a low trust society occupied by the some of the most passive aggressive people out there.

I have a gut feeling that shits going to hit the fan real soon in Canada. There’s a lot of tension in the air, not helped by this incompetent, divisive government. If the LPC doesn’t oust Trudeau and Freeland soon, I believe it’ll backfire on the government.

I hope Alberta sticks to their promise of separating from this hell forsaken client state; even if it means that they’ll have to take the Northwest Territories with them just to avoid becoming landlocked. Wexit just might be the only way to preserve what’s left of what used to make Canada an okay country.

 

[OutInTheRain]

The fact that Trudeau overreacted to the convoy is pretty telling. It single handedly destroyed the illusion that the Canadian government is beloved by their people, and that we all love Trudeau.

It also didn't help that when he finally got pulled out the hole they were hiding him, he looked puffy and disheveled from being rage drunk all weekend.

I have a gut feeling that shits going to hit the fan real soon in Canada. There’s a lot of tension in the air, not helped by this incompetent, divisive government. If the LPC doesn’t oust Trudeau and Freeland soon, I believe it’ll backfire on the government.

His cabinet is made of bootlickers, as he has ousted anyone with a strong personality or competence. Garneau is on the back bench and I imagine he is seething over it. As well look at the turnover in cabinet ministers. He was almost at a complete turnover by 2019, which is unheard of. I imagine the backbenchers aren't staging a caucus revolt because they know the party is going to go in the dumpster for a generation at this point. Once Trust-fund Trudy is gone, it's going to take a long time to remove the stench of him from the party.

I will give the current Libs this. By cudgeling people with "current year" BS, they pulled the teeth out of the NDP, the Greens and the BQ. They can't go after Trudeau for the retarded shit, because their insane base loves it. If O'Toole would have went on the attack, he would have motivated people to vote for him. He pissed away an easily winnable election.

I hope Alberta sticks to their promise of separating from this hell forsaken client state; even if it means that they’ll have to take the Northwest Territories with them just to avoid becoming landlocked. Wexit just might be the only way to preserve what’s left of what used to make Canada an okay country.

The NWT might as well be landlocked with it's lack of ports, infrastructure and 8 months of ice. Better option is to withdraw completely, let the locals die off now that free money isn't coming in and then re-occupy the territory.

 

[Ser Prize]

We are living in times of a massive and silent upheaval and changes especially for anyone living in the first world. The changes are not due to the tried and true reasons (ie, war, famine, deadly pestillence, etc) The reason is the egregious and continuing levels of wealth concentration that haven't existed since the days of the Pyramids.

Most people aren't going to do anything other than copious amounts of substances and thumping their genitals like simians. They are also going to keep a lot of their hardships and pain to themselves like they are embarrassed, that is the product of the neo-feudal globalist brainwashing now mixed into the background of culture. Globalists in general would prefer you keep it all to yourselves, and nowhere is that clearer than Canada.

It is embarrassing to admit you've failed. But I remember that over half of millenials still live with their folks and am reassured, somewhat, that it isn't just a failing of me personally. Something has clearly gone very very wrong and the only question now is: what to do?

Saw this post and really, how many people do you know with similar problems? Why is it so damn common these days? It can't have always been this way everywhere.

 

[InteracialBowelSyndrome]

It is embarrassing to admit you've failed. But I remember that over half of millenials still live with their folks and am reassured, somewhat, that it isn't just a failing of me personally. Something has clearly gone very very wrong and the only question now is: what to do?
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Saw this post and really, how many people do you know with similar problems? Why is it so damn common these days? It can't have always been this way everywhere.

If those wagies-turned-anhero at least take out a few politicians before they go, then they might be remembered for doing something good. Most peope agree that the KillDozer guy was an asshole, but they hate the system more than they hate some random jerk, so he's been immortalized. If some leftist NEET "Redacts" a Liberal MP I'd anonymously donate to their family, and I shouldn't have to state how much I don't like leftists.

Make the Elite Scared Again. (In Minecraft, of course, for our lovely glowie observers.)

 

[DiscoRodeo]

I'm going to be 30 this year and live with my mom still. My mom who can't walk unassisted and can barely do basic tasks now. I'm pretty sure I'll see her die in the next ten years because her health just gets worse and worse and nobody can really tell why.
My sister is a raging tranny who no longer has any semblance of the girl I used to know in her. All she is now is roid rage, depression and droning on about the "LGBT mafia".
My country is falling apart and I don't see myself ever having land or vehicle. Never raising a family even though I keep looking.

All the positive things from my childhood and early 20's are gone. The town I live in is basically unrecognizable. All the places I used to go are closed. All the hobbies I used to do no longer have a scene here. Most of my friends have moved away.

I don't know why I'm writing this out. I wonder if any of you poor fucking fellow Canadians can relate. Everything that was once good in this country seems gone. I hate it. I hate it so much.

I can relate- youd be surprised at who can. Same age bracket, same fears about parents and being on our own and having to be brave, in a brave new world.

I have a gut feeling that shits going to hit the fan real soon in Canada. There’s a lot of tension in the air, not helped by this incompetent, divisive government. If the LPC doesn’t oust Trudeau and Freeland soon, I believe it’ll backfire on the government.

This is what gives me some hope; but if its a major systemic change, shits going to get worse, the change itself is going to be hell to go through, and then maybe therell be light at the other end of the tunnel.

The trajectory that we're currently on though is not good. Lived around the world and while other places have major problems, Canada is one of the few (maybe SK or Japan included) that has such a sense of doomerism about it.

We'll probably see some sort of collapse in my generation. You could say "well, well just have to go for a welfare state with so many people in the dire straits", but then you add in the cost of elderly healthcare, euthanizing them, etc and I really think were going to be the Argentina of the north.

Always (when you have the chance), get out when its good- because it gets worse every year.

 

[Never Scored]

It's really fucking wild how much of what you guys are saying varies depending on where you are in the country geographically. I'm in my late 30s and almost everyone I know in their 30s owns a house.

However, over the last couple years prices are nudging up and the rental market has gotten fucked up. People from Vancouver and Toronto who can never afford a house where they live fly in and scoop up a $300,000 house, fly back to where they came from and turn the house they just bought into a rental or Air BNB. If the provincial government cared they'd put the kibosh on that kind of thing though an out of province ownership tax or something. But of course they don't so they won't.

 

[SilentDuck]

I thought that this would be pertinent to the discussion:

A recent Leger poll has 67% of Canadians agreeing that Canada is broken

While I do agree that Canadians have a tendency to suck up and take up it their rectum, even Leafs have their limits. The Freedom Convoy was one such manifestation of the growing discontent, which the government dismissed and then attempted to suppress with the invocation of the Emergency Act rather than actually address the underlying issues. Of course, the dimwits in Ottawa believe that the issue has been dealt with once the cleared out the protesters and continue on with business as usual. That is only to be expected as Ottawa is a government town that has only the most tenuous of connections to the realities of the world outside city limits.

Hard to even get a read on the true scope of public sentiment. Because of who is running the polling and media you can't trust data unless its about people's personal pocket books and prospects. Everyone is currently in agreement there might be a huge problem. But when you delve into who is to blame, there are significant numbers of Canadians even willing to blame Russia for uncontrolled domestically caused inflation. A perennial housing crisis, gleefully designed by local, provincial and a liberal federal government as having somehow originated from Moscow - but not Beijing.

Aside from kiwifarms I haven't heard much support or people even wiling to understand the trucker dilemma in legal or political terms. Most people wanted the police to brutalize the truckers and do it fasterer. Lock them up and throw away the key kind of statements. Couldn't give a fuck about the government seizing private property without judicial review and a dubious legal reasoning reserved for actual war and counter-terrorism. CCP overnight, no one cared because there are claims that honkers were being impolite and insubordinate to petty tyranny which somehow turned into real tyranny over a mere matter of days. You can slow boil Canadians and then keep slow boiling them, is what the government has learned.

I hope Alberta sticks to their promise of separating from this hell forsaken client state; even if it means that they’ll have to take the Northwest Territories with them just to avoid becoming landlocked. Wexit just might be the only way to preserve what’s left of what used to make Canada an okay country.

I would like to to see the showdown between Alberta and Ottawa in my lifetime. Whatever this tension erupts into, the outcome of the emergency act inquiry is going to be some kind of flashpoint. Either Trudeau and his government gets humiliated (by the liberal judge running it?, lol) or it's the standard Ottawa whitewash where the federal government and its judicial toadies decree that the federal government can do no wrong irrelevant of facts or optics. The CBC and Toronto Star damage control opeds can make it all palletable to a disturbing percentage of the population - but none of which resides in the West.

 

[Lupin The Turd]

I'm 25 so I have to ask, what the fuck was Canadian culture? I can't say I feel like I've truly experienced it. It can't simply be more than slop like Hockey, Tim Hortons and poutine right?

 

[Never Scored]

I'm 25 so I have to ask, what the fuck was Canadian culture? I can't say I feel like I've truly experienced it. It can't simply be more than slop like Hockey, Tim Hortons and poutine right?

I don't think Canada ever had a big unified cultural identity. I think it's more geographical regions with their own unique cultural identities. Most of the Canadian stereotypes you see in popular media like Bob and Doug McKenzie were just a representation of pre mass immigration Ontario.

 

[Ookoo Squad]

I'm 25 so I have to ask, what the fuck was Canadian culture? I can't say I feel like I've truly experienced it. It can't simply be more than slop like Hockey, Tim Hortons and poutine right?

>hockey
>slop
Unironically though: being a kid playing ball hockey on the street with your friends in the cul-de-sac. Outdoor shinny, helmetless, in tuques and sweaters, followed by a beer (illegally) in the dressing room. Everyone's white, even in the big city. It's something I'd taken for granted when I was younger. I'd guess that a lot of guys under 30 have probably never experienced it though, so I can almost understand why it seems like a cheesy meme now. Like something made up in a Tim's commercial.

Anyway, speaking of 'failed state'. Nothing says 'decline' like refusal to recognise a problem. Nothing says 'total failure' like actively celebrating problems and trying to shut down anyone who brings them up. Thanks, Torstar. Yeah, I've been to East Hastings, and it's a wretched hive of filth, squalor and despair which gives the original L.A. Skid Row a run for its money. Imagine being the kind of Toronto shitlib who sits in xir million-dollar glass shoebox in the sky and writes this, just to spite PP.

They're getting rightfully roasted in the comments. How long until tweet replies need to be approved?

Oh, and a final mindfuck? Vancouver 116 years ago, including Hastings Street:

 

[OutInTheRain]

I'm 25 so I have to ask, what the fuck was Canadian culture? I can't say I feel like I've truly experienced it. It can't simply be more than slop like Hockey, Tim Hortons and poutine right?

Rural and blue collar mostly. But there is a lot of regionalism as well. The maritimes are different from the prairies, which is different from Ontario, etc. As mass media has taken over more and more of our lives, it morphed Canadian culture to just "Not America." The mass immigration has accelerated that sentiment as ethnic ghettos continue to grow, and Canadian tv is always just kind of bad.

 

[Local Fed]

I don't think Canada ever had a big unified cultural identity. I think it's more geographical regions with their own unique cultural identities. Most of the Canadian stereotypes you see in popular media like Bob and Doug McKenzie were just a representation of pre mass immigration Ontario.

I'd agree with this. Canada used to, at least to me, feel like it was several regions of small towns in a way; the East coast being its own thing, the prairie provinces being theirs, Quebec being this weird French outlier but with a notable dash of the East coast stuff, British Columbia being kind of like a more relaxed PNW, etc.

The stereotypes applying to Canada as a whole like certain bits of slang never made sense to me in regards to people (mostly Americans who've never even left America) thinking it's widespread to pronounce "About" as "Aboot" or whatever (realistically you're way more likely to hear it pronounced as "Aboat" if anything.) I've never actually heard anyone in Canada refer to someone as a "Hoser" except to play up a Canadian stereotype that they don't even exercise themselves in day-to-day life.

The general culture of being pretty easy going and non-confrontational were/are generally on point though, and I definitely think that there was (and still is) a strong condescension towards our southern neighbours that's baked into the fabric of Canadian society; although I think it's changed in the recent decade to more of a genuine snooty attitude than the more friendly way it was.

Hockey always was definitely a big thing, much like baseball and football have been in the States, but even that feels like it's fading somewhat as an identity as young people care less and less about sports (for a myriad of reasons) and the general immigrant population doesn't give a shit about hockey, and Canadian culture is hardly pushing for newcomers to adhere to cultural assimilation unless it's to virtue signal.

Even Canadian media feels kind of like a zombie version of itself. It was always mostly shit, don't get me wrong, but the occasional attempt at "Canadiana" or whatever one might call it feels incredibly foreign when I see it.

 

[SilentDuck]

The general culture of being pretty easy going and non-confrontational were/are generally on point though, and I definitely think that there was (and still is) a strong condescension towards our southern neighbours that's baked into the fabric of Canadian society; although I think it's changed in the recent decade to more of a genuine snooty attitude than the more friendly way it was.

80s/90s suburban childhood was in ways quite similar to American upbringing because the era was largely defined by media and consumption. Everyone saw the first affirmative action crew blow up the Challenger. Everyone saw the wall fall and everyone saw the CIA's good friend Saddam became badman Saddam. Everyone more or less consumed the same products and TV/movies from the same corporations.

I've seen the Canadian expat community pendulum swing every which way now. Either the days of saying you should escape Trump era America (orange man bad), escape Europe (cost+ European style opportunity), escape China (HK crackdown era) and laying low in Canada until the pandemic blew over. Now its escaping Canada not for advancement but due to costs and it not being Canada anymore. A lot of Canadians are shocked to learn the outside world isn't universally friendly to people showing up in their country and will not roll out the red carpet for outsiders. They actually treat immigrants like a threat to their own well being, livelyhoods and culture. Imagine that.

 

[OutInTheRain]

A lot of Canadians are shocked to learn the outside world isn't universally friendly to people showing up in their country and will not roll out the red carpet for outsiders. They actually treat immigrants like a threat to their own well being, livelyhoods and culture. Imagine that.

A lot of Canadians are shocked that one, on the internet Leafs are generally despised, and two in real life that most people don't enjoy Canadian's smug high mindedness. No one appreciates listening to a newcomer lecture them on everything they are doing wrong, and why they should be more like the country they fled....Ironic I know...

 

[Local Fed]

A lot of Canadians are shocked to learn the outside world isn't universally friendly to people showing up in their country and will not roll out the red carpet for outsiders. They actually treat immigrants like a threat to their own well being, livelyhoods and culture. Imagine that.

Personally this doesn't sound too surprising, both that many Canadians are surprised by this and also that many other peoples of the world have the attitude that they do (one that I wish that the average Canadian and the European diaspora would share.)

I've long thought that a lot of the smug attitude found here is because relatively speaking we have a lot of protection in various forms via bordering the US from the north. We have the world's biggest military right below us who would protect us not just out of altruism but out of their own self-interest. Until relatively recently in the nation's history we didn't have to worry much about waves of unwanted immigration (and what we do have has largely been forced upon us by bureaucrats and the short-sighted.) Even so much of our (and the world at large) healthcare is someone reliant on the massive R&D that takes place in the US. I think that the relatively safety in Canada has left many to kind of underappreciate or flat out be left ignorant of the uniqueness of our situation on the map both in our relationship first and foremost with the US and the world at large (this can be shown quite well with politicians like Trudeau and many of the most vocal politically inclined Canadians online.)

This isn't to fellate the US or anything as I think there are plenty of massive retards there too (which is why I resent what @OutInTheRain says above me, but not because it's untrue of course,) but I can understand why some of them don't hold a very good opinion of Canada, much like a Texan has a good reason to want California to slide into the ocean.

 

[SilentDuck]

I've long thought that a lot of the smug attitude found here is because relatively speaking we have a lot of protection in various forms via bordering the US from the north. We have the world's biggest military right below us who would protect us not just out of altruism but out of their own self-interest. Until relatively recently in the nation's history we didn't have to worry much about waves of unwanted immigration (and what we do have has largely been forced upon us by bureaucrats and the short-sighted.) Even so much of our (and the world at large) healthcare is someone reliant on the massive R&D that takes place in the US. I think that the relatively safety in Canada has left many to kind of underappreciate or flat out be left ignorant of the uniqueness of our situation on the map both in our relationship first and foremost with the US and the world at large (this can be shown quite well with politicians like Trudeau and many of the most vocal politically inclined Canadians online.)

I wouldn't be totally confident on US protection. For one thing that's never actually been put to the test. The Trump presidency should have been a kick in the ass to Canada on issues like trade and emergencies that Canada can easily be on its own depending on American political whims.

The seething butthurt by Doug Ford over unfulfilled PPE deals with America at the start of the pandemic. I would have hoped even the average Laurentian genius saw that and could extrapolate - if there's a ever a defense problem, say, state of the art Russian aircraft crossing the arctic circle or Russian subs in the water not particularly interested in hearing about Canada's claims to the north. What happens if the pentagon says 'lol, get fucked hosers' ? I'd look to America's post-WW2 relationships in Europe and the Middle East to see what happens to the places they actually do come to help (starting with Ukraine).

 

[Local Fed]

I wouldn't be totally confident on US protection. For one thing that's never actually been put to the test. The Trump presidency should have been a kick in the ass to Canada on issues like trade and emergencies that Canada can easily be on its own depending on American political whims.

While this is true, I think that everyone knows that there's the big snarling dog in the back yard and it's one of the reasons why it hasn't been put to the test to see if it'll actually go for the throat of a trespasser. The other big reason is there's no reason for many many to go after us when we're already giving ourselves away.

Regarding American political whims, I think there's a strong level of comfort among most Canadians (the political class in particular) that America's leadership will continue to treat us like their 52nd state (with the bonus being they don't need to send us billions in arms every year.) Even amongst many of the types who think that because of Trump that America was about to turn into "The 4th Reich: We're So Fucking Back" edition, I think that they think that the status quo is kind of going to be back especially after how Trudeau got in line when Biden got on the phone regarding the trucker protests.

 

[OutInTheRain]

I wouldn't be totally confident on US protection. For one thing that's never actually been put to the test. The Trump presidency should have been a kick in the ass to Canada on issues like trade and emergencies that Canada can easily be on its own depending on American political whims.

I agree with you on trade, America will always prioritize itself first, as they should, Canadian's shouldn't rely on American economic altruism, nor should they expect it. We got bulled over during the new NAFTA negotiations. The US establishment losing patience with the Canadian government and nearly freezing us out entirely. Since the initial free trade deal in '88 we have intermingled our economies more and more. The idea being that manufacturers could take advantage of a weak Canadian dollar, to save on parts and labour. Of course with Mexico and later even the southern US being opened up for manufacturing, most of that went south, much like the American northeast. Right now, Canada's biggest selling point to the US, is that it is a stable first world country right next door, that can handle advanced engineering, such as aerospace.

On defence and most foreign policy issues we are beholden to the US. The three main deviations to this being Cuba, Vietnam and the Iraq War. Vietnam and Iraq were a combination of the military couldn't support, and the possibility of the removal of a government had they decided to. Canada and Cuba's relationship provided a backdoor for diplomats to meet. On Defence itself, NORAD is the most notable intermingling of the Canadian and US militaries. Outlining the creation and protection of Fortress North America. Which is why the F35 purchase was always a given. I also imagine the American's threatened all the parts manufacturing that was happening in Canada related to the aircraft. It all shows how deeply entangled the Canadian and American security states are.

We've had a few incidents where the US has growled at us over the military. One of the lesser known is in I think 1970 when the government decided to get rid of the RCN, in which we were told in explicit terms, that we would have a Navy, or the US would give us a navy and make us pay for the privilege. As you all know, we still have a Navy. The most notable is in 1963 with the Bomarc missile crisis, and the proposal to have nuclear warheads on the missiles. Which saw Kennedy send his election team up to help Pearson defeat Diefenbaker. Which resulted in Pearson allowing the Canadian Bomarcs to have nuclear warheads.