Canada is a failed state

[SilentDuck]

The social contract has been a theory since the Age of Enlightenment. It has nothing to do with boomers or corporations at all and is a philosophical theory regarding you, a free man, exchanging some liberties, to be cared for by the state.

Our education system is really, really, really sad.

Again, Canada isn't a state. Its a collection of corporate and family interests. You hold no "social contract", with a non-state and paraphrasing antiquity doesn't change that.

Outside of boomer oriented media and Parliament Hill the philosophical edicts of 3-4 centuries ago means absolutely nothing. Means even less in the face of modern day globalism and neo-feudal corporate totalitarianism that does not recognize borders anyway.

Let me know how Canadian RRSP boomers who believed it was an act of morality to direct their entire retirements into enriching these vague interests that rule Canada in an orgy of tax-free enlightenment feel about their current obligations to society. You know, highest public/private debt loads in the history of history. Canadians now the most indebted people in the world. What's the solution? Double immigration and sell off the entire housing stock globally. Sounds good. I hear the CCP is big on social contract theories too.

 

[Epic Fail Man]

ALSO, By far out of all the races I have to deal with in Canada most of the black people I have met have actually all been pretty great. Lot's of really smart people in business and AI and they have some great takes. Which still surprises me. There are definitely some where you can tell just by looking you know. 95% of the time with Indians I want to blow my brains out. Liars, cheats, scammers, losers, pathetic, insanely retarded, basically no English skills at all.

Black people are kind and based in Canada almost every black person I met there have been very pleasent. Hopefully one day all races will come together in Canada and remove pajeets.

 

[Hokuriku]

Sadly, it seems Canadians will rather die than be called racists or transphobic.

Not quite all

 

[Totallyunknown]

Again, Canada isn't a state. Its a collection of corporate and family interests. You hold no "social contract", with a non-state and paraphrasing antiquity doesn't change that.

Outside of boomer oriented media and Parliament Hill the philosophical edicts of 3-4 centuries ago means absolutely nothing. Means even less in the face of modern day globalism and neo-feudal corporate totalitarianism that does not recognize borders anyway.

Let me know how Canadian RRSP boomers who believed it was an act of morality to direct their entire retirements into enriching these vague interests that rule Canada in an orgy of tax-free enlightenment feel about their current obligations to society. You know, highest public/private debt loads in the history of history. Canadians now the most indebted people in the world. What's the solution? Double immigration and sell off the entire housing stock globally. Sounds good. I hear the CCP is big on social contract theories too.

I disagree and think this philosophical theory held ground through the founding of Canada and led to a lot of socialist ideas being implemented that other countries don't have.

I could consider the idea that while this was happening, there were still capitalist interests that could have but went unchecked for a variety of reasons which has led to current day issues.

The boomers are enjoying the fruits of their prior social contract - they were told to work hard, save money, buy housing as an investment etc in a time of economic prosperity and they'd be able to retire on a government pension subsidy and enjoy free health care and whatever else gets the seniors out to vote.

By doing things like mass immigration, underfunding or privatizing health care, secondary education as diploma mills for foreign students, ill-informed law making around drugs and addiction, allowing foreign investors to buy housing in an underbuilt market as well as misdirected spending in the budget overall for the past twenty years breaks that established social contract. Which means an unrest in the population overall which has manifested in things like protests on one level but the shift in tone in news reporting, how the cashier is treated, how much patience a teacher has in school, how many hours a nurse has been forced to work - there is a trickle down of the contract being broken which effects the quality of life for a citizen.

Your rhetoric is kind of a result of the broken contract. Had Canada provided what you believed it would, you'd probably be less likely to jump to hard aggression on any perceived dissenting thought.

This isn't a theory to encompass all problems the country currently faces, just a slice of the problem.

 

[Molesting the Decapitated]

It's not just the GTA, it's the whole province of Ontario. I tried living outside of the GTA in Ontario and the rent is still at least 1,500 for the shittiest smallest studio apartment.

I wonder what the cost of living in like, say, Yellowknife would be... or any city in those awful northern CA provinces that nobody lives in cuz it's way too fucking cold. Canada should be paying you to live there just like the USA does with living in Alaska

 

[Nikes_JustDoIt]

Black people are kind and based in Canada almost every black person I met there have been very pleasent. Hopefully one day all races will come together in Canada and remove pajeets.

The ones I meet in class and at work usually come from the islands or Africa, so they work hard and do not act like American nigger. (It comes later with the kids not wanting to work hard)
Paajeets and middle eastern folks I have witness do not want to understand the new customs and not be able to accept how different country act. (Sounds familiar)

 

[Hokuriku]

I wonder what the cost of living in like, say, Yellowknife would be... or any city in those awful northern CA provinces that nobody lives in cuz it's way too fucking cold. Canada should be paying you to live there just like the USA does with living in Alaska

Jobs up north pay very well but the costs of living are exorbitant because literally everything has to be flown in. Don't know how easy it is to go all in for a few years and save the way you used to be able to do on places like Ft Mac.

 

[BeetleBug242]

Jobs up north pay very well but the costs of living are exorbitant because literally everything has to be flown in. Don't know how easy it is to go all in for a few years and save the way you used to be able to do on places like Ft Mac.

It isn't livable. Not even that far north it's already becoming unlivable fast. It really is going to be a hell of a decade.

 

[Jetpack Himmler]

The ones I meet in class and at work usually come from the islands or Africa, so they work hard and do not act like American nigger. (It comes later with the kids not wanting to work hard)

I had a rather contentious relationship with a roommate of mine from West Africa. She would accuse me of being a racist when I pushed back against her nagging, which I laughed off and proceeded to make a point out of ignoring her. Thankfully she's gone now.

By doing things like mass immigration, underfunding or privatizing health care, secondary education as diploma mills for foreign students, ill-informed law making around drugs and addiction, allowing foreign investors to buy housing in an underbuilt market as well as misdirected spending in the budget overall for the past twenty years breaks that established social contract. Which means an unrest in the population overall which has manifested in things like protests on one level but the shift in tone in news reporting, how the cashier is treated, how much patience a teacher has in school, how many hours a nurse has been forced to work - there is a trickle down of the contract being broken which effects the quality of life for a citizen.

I'm not sure about the shift in tone in news reporting, but you make a compelling argument. Our legacy media is part of the Laurentian establishment and is now partially subsidized by the federal government so they have a vested interest in saying, "This is fine", while the country burns around them. What I do notice is a shift in the political discourse from people like Pierre Poilievre who has made "Canada is broken" a slogan and talking about the glaring issues this country faces. Of course, the TruAnons excoriate him for this and make bullshit claims--including infographs proclaiming "Canada numbah wun!" because it suits their own confirmation bias. They lambast him for "angry politics" but it comes off as confession by projection because they are in complete denial of the breakdown of this contract.

Not that I'm saying that he's a panacea for this country, but he is very much saying what many are thinking. Hell, the non-partisan Parliamentary Budget Officer has out and out said our government is broken and that it's due to nonexistent leadership. I expect another ministry to breakdown, even if the passport backlog has eased (for the moment).

 

[Catler]

I wonder what the cost of living in like, say, Yellowknife would be... or any city in those awful northern CA provinces that nobody lives in cuz it's way too fucking cold. Canada should be paying you to live there just like the USA does with living in Alaska

You do get paid to live there via Northern Allowance. It varies based on the zone/community you are in, but the jobs pay great too.

Just make sure you live in a community connected to the south by road and the prices aren’t that bad.

Northern Canada is fucking awesome and I’m glad people aren’t moving up there en masse and ruining it. May Ontarians remain afraid of the cold forever.

 

[Yttrium]

You do get paid to live there via Northern Allowance. It varies based on the zone/community you are in, but the jobs pay great too.

Just make sure you live in a community connected to the south by road and the prices aren’t that bad.

Northern Canada is fucking awesome and I’m glad people aren’t moving up there en masse and ruining it. May Ontarians remain afraid of the cold forever.

There are also tax break available that you can claim on your taxes only available if you live up north iirc.
I noticed the option when renewing my employment tax agreement in January in preparation for the upcoming tax year.

 

[Molesting the Decapitated]

You do get paid to live there via Northern Allowance. It varies based on the zone/community you are in, but the jobs pay great too.

Just make sure you live in a community connected to the south by road and the prices aren’t that bad.

Northern Canada is fucking awesome and I’m glad people aren’t moving up there en masse and ruining it. May Ontarians remain afraid of the cold forever.

yeh i guess living in Yellowknife wouldn't he too bad... but i've heard Nunavut as a province is so fucking north it has more in common with Greenland than it does what you'd consider what Canada is known for.

id imagine Nunavut is just so desolate and freezing nobody even bothers, like there's only so cold and exiled one can handle before it becomes unlivable and Id imagine that's what people think of that province.

Fun fact: there actually is one band from that province....
one single band called Northern Haze , they're literally known just solely for being from Nunavut

 

[Catler]

yeh i guess living in Yellowknife wouldn't he too bad... but i've heard Nunavut as a province is so fucking north it has more in common with Greenland than it does what you'd consider what Canada is known for.

id imagine Nunavut is just so desolate and freezing nobody even bothers, like there's only so cold and exiled one can handle before it becomes unlivable and Id imagine that's what people think of that province.

Fun fact: there actually is one band from that province....
one single band called Northern Haze , they're literally known just solely for being from Nunavut

Nunavut is one of the last places in this country you truly feel on the edge of a frontier. A lot of it is completely untouched and totally wild even today and the way of life is radically different.

Nunavut can be a completely overwhelming if you’ve never spent some time there, but I’ve yet to meet anyone who actually regretted spending time there.

If it weren’t for internet you’d legitimately feel like you were on some Mars outpost In Iqaluit, much less the smaller communities.

 

[SilentDuck]

I disagree and think this philosophical theory held ground through the founding of Canada and led to a lot of socialist ideas being implemented that other countries don't have.

I could consider the idea that while this was happening, there were still capitalist interests that could have but went unchecked for a variety of reasons which has led to current day issues.

You are talking about colonial interests and those work hand in hand with the Crown. Those are better known as the family and corporate interests that rule Canada of which I happen to refer. They do not exist in the periphery, they run the show and always have.

The King of England is your head of state. Since you like unspoken uncodified social contracts, under Noblesse Oblige, your King is to protect you from the Westons, Irvings, Trudeaus and newly minted Doug Ford type family interests who deal in Dickensien amusement. For them, the highest form of entertainment would be if you were to work all your life to be able to afford to live in a tent city and then starved to death in a gutter. But hey - Canada gets a Tommy Douglas. How's that going?

The boomers are enjoying the fruits of their prior social contract - they were told to work hard, save money, buy housing as an investment etc in a time of economic prosperity and they'd be able to retire on a government pension subsidy and enjoy free health care and whatever else gets the seniors out to vote.

Boomers have enjoyed the fruits of their parent's social contract, their social contract, "my social contract" and yours, and are going to consume that of every subsequent generation yet to be born before they die and then some. Don't take my word for it, the mathematical resources are bottomless just like the public and private debts they continue to make at your expense.

Your rhetoric is kind of a result of the broken contract. Had Canada provided what you believed it would, you'd probably be less likely to jump to hard aggression on any perceived dissenting thought.

I'm not the one posting about being priced out of my own country. If I was the last thing I'd be doing is discussing various philosophical structuralisms and how I hope King Charles the III will honor my unwritten 'social contract' with him. Meanwhile the ruling class states that they plan to grow Canada's population to 100 million people by 2100, and to do so they are importing people who live on dirt floors and use holes in the ground for bathrooms.

Will the precocious clump of ~60 million 'New Canada' minimum wage serfs use their precious free time to pontificate on the European age of enlightenment? Will they engage in all the other inapplicable exercises in intellectual masturbation that has zero impact on the diminishing returns of neo-feudalism they live through every day? Sure. What could be more Canadian then that?

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

My opinion of Canada

Spoiler

 

[Totallyunknown]

I'm not the one posting about being priced out of my own country. If I was the last thing I'd be doing is discussing various philosophical structuralisms and how I hope King Charles the III will honor my unwritten 'social contract' with him. Meanwhile the ruling class states that they plan to grow Canada's population to 100 million people by 2100, and to do so they are importing people who live on dirt floors and use holes in the ground for bathrooms.

Will the precocious clump of ~60 million 'New Canada' minimum wage serfs use their precious free time to pontificate on the European age of enlightenment? Will they engage in all the other inapplicable exercises in intellectual masturbation that has zero impact on the diminishing returns of neo-feudalism they live through every day? Sure. What could be more Canadian then that?

Well part of the social contract was education and that has been slowly ripped to shreds in varying degrees by lack of funding and political meddling from provincial to municipal.

The clump of ~60 million minimum wage workers are minimum wage because the system failed them on multiple fronts. The state cannot provide "good jobs" to uneducated people and expect quality of life to improve. The workers, facing poverty and homelessness, don't have the time to consider what they don't know.

Among many of these workers are people who did protest as they did have the emotional tenacity to make a movement. They lacked cohesive education to do anything politically productive and time has now proven that to be true. There's a very high probability that if some or even many workers rose to protest to be politically productive, they also would lack cohesive education to make necessary change happen.

More so, education doesn't happen over night and we are losing multiple generations. There will always be and always have been people who want to undermine an established social contract for greed and power so I don't argue whether established powers purposefully destroyed these things in order to keep people dumb and docile. They probably did. But the population on average does not have the intellect to understand this and will instead continue to erupt in small pockets of fed up workers, most likely unionized and they will never be fighting to better quality of life for all, but for themselves.

You can tell people all day everyday that they're fucked but if they don't speak the language, they'll never get it. It's just, "why's lettuce and milk so expensive?", "how come my doctor only does virtual care?", "why don't I feel safe in my neighborhood?" - you can explain in detail with articles and citations and government documents to tell them exactly what's happening and it's just blank stares until they ask yet again, "why does it cost so much?"

Theres no intellectual masturbation. There's no intellect at all. It's almost a social experiment and anthropological study on how quickly you can kill a western first world society by withholding education.

 

[Sqwe-wi_Farmer]

The CRA is probably gonna strike this April which will throw the government into turmoil that their purse strings get slightly pinched. But they'll like outsource the accounting to some terrible bad actors like China.

 

[Ser Prize]

You are talking about colonial interests and those work hand in hand with the Crown. Those are better known as the family and corporate interests that rule Canada of which I happen to refer. They do not exist in the periphery, they run the show and always have.

The King of England is your head of state. Since you like unspoken uncodified social contracts, under Noblesse Oblige, your King is to protect you from the Westons, Irvings, Trudeaus and newly minted Doug Ford type family interests who deal in Dickensien amusement. For them, the highest form of entertainment would be if you were to work all your life to be able to afford to live in a tent city and then starved to death in a gutter. But hey - Canada gets a Tommy Douglas. How's that going?



Boomers have enjoyed the fruits of their parent's social contract, their social contract, "my social contract" and yours, and are going to consume that of every subsequent generation yet to be born before they die and then some. Don't take my word for it, the mathematical resources are bottomless just like the public and private debts they continue to make at your expense.



I'm not the one posting about being priced out of my own country. If I was the last thing I'd be doing is discussing various philosophical structuralisms and how I hope King Charles the III will honor my unwritten 'social contract' with him. Meanwhile the ruling class states that they plan to grow Canada's population to 100 million people by 2100, and to do so they are importing people who live on dirt floors and use holes in the ground for bathrooms.

Will the precocious clump of ~60 million 'New Canada' minimum wage serfs use their precious free time to pontificate on the European age of enlightenment? Will they engage in all the other inapplicable exercises in intellectual masturbation that has zero impact on the diminishing returns of neo-feudalism they live through every day? Sure. What could be more Canadian then that?

What, you don't think 80-IQ third worlders will magically espouse the virtues of enlightenment and the purpose of government between shitting in holes and gang raping women who dared walk alone at night? What are, a bigot?

 

[Jetpack Himmler]

You can tell people all day everyday that they're fucked but if they don't speak the language, they'll never get it. It's just, "why's lettuce and milk so expensive?", "how come my doctor only does virtual care?", "why don't I feel safe in my neighborhood?" - you can explain in detail with articles and citations and government documents to tell them exactly what's happening and it's just blank stares until they ask yet again, "why does it cost so much?"

Theres no intellectual masturbation. There's no intellect at all. It's almost a social experiment and anthropological study on how quickly you can kill a western first world society by withholding education.

It astonishes me to see how ignorant and downright stupid my generation of Canadians can be, and I am an older millennial for the record. I once got into a slightly heated debate with my sister's fiancé over the overturning of Roe v Wade, and he ignored every argument I attempted to make using evidence and rationalized his positions because, "muh fellings" so I don't even bother to engage him anymore. He hates the Freedom Convoy and (Alberta premier) for the same tribal reasons. These people lack any sense of skepticism and critical thinking, and I blame it on the degradation of the education system that has prioritized ideology over results over decades. You can partially blame that on teachers' unions becoming a political force as you can see in Ontario, for example.

At least a plurality of Leafs appear to have no grasp of current events or how the system works. Indeed, they assume that a benevolent leftist government and civil service is going to care for them and their loved ones from cradle to grave. They are blissfully unaware that our universal healthcare allows for private delivery via general practitioners, labs, etc. and get riled up at the very suggestion of allowing more private delivery out of fear of instituting "American-style"pay-as-you-go system. Hell, most of them are ignorant of the fact that many European nations have both public and private because of their myopia. Similarly, I read an article in the National Post that most Canadians do not even know what Trudeau's "Just Transition" is and how it can fundamentally transform the country for the worse and damage national unity.

Yet when you bring up these problems, you are treated like the village idiot for not parroting the government line. I have given up on this this group and simply just mock them by speaking to them in a patronizing matter because I find them completely unworthy of respect.'

Odin help us. Who needs to import more idiots from overseas when we have more than enough here?

 

[Hokuriku]

It's almost as if revolving federal policy around satisfying the WEF is completely impractical, whoa.