Canada is a failed state

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

Two of Canada's three largest political parties have a "We're not America" stance. Literally anything they can do to distinguish Canada from the US, no matter how retarded it gets, will be a victory in their eyes.

I remember growing up and hearing how the "US is a melting pot, and Canada is a "mosaic" or a "salad" of different cultures. People from around the world went to the US to become Americans. People around the world didn't come to Canada to become Canadian, nor did the Canadian government want them to be Canadian, they were encouraged to keep their cultural and ethnic identity.

And now we have entire chunks of Canada resembling India, China, and Middle Eastern shitholes. But at least we're not forcing them to become Canadian.

Back in January I went to a local legion event for Robbie Burns night and it felt like Old Canada. All White people of Scottish and Irish descent.

That is what Canada is supposed to be (plus the French and the Germans and Ukrainians on the Prairies (Steppe))

I do agree immigration is too much but canada has a birth rate of 1.43 with muslims and indians factored in if you dont want to have immigrants in your country you need to have more kids or else you will need immigrants to keep your country running

This is the chicken or question

If we had less Pajeets people would be having more kids. Maybe pay mothers to have kids instead of paying CCB to every Pajeetess who brings over her shitfruit.

Also what’s so bad about not having constant growth as in GDP line must always go up by 10% a year? Fuck your small GDP.

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

This is the chicken or question

If we had less Pajeets people would be having more kids. Maybe pay mothers to have kids instead of paying CCB to every Pajeetess who brings over her shitfruit.

Also what’s so bad about not having constant growth as in GDP line must always go up by 10% a year? Fuck your small GDP.

The entire notion of industrialization is less human, more output.

If the government gave a shit about their people, inflation would be a perpetual deflation and strengthening of the dollar while economy STILL grows.

 

[Never Scored]

at least the indians are working and highly educated its not like canada imported 10 million illiterate tribals

Canada already has too many degree holders outside of healthcare. We need carpenters and nurses and the government is bringing in petroleum and electrical engineers who end up working at Burger King because we already have enough of those. It's asinine.

 

[Stanley Ipkiss]

I don't know why the christ anyone shops at Loblaws at this point. I'm in a smallish town and I have a decent mix of chains (Wal-Mart, Loblaws, Empire), discount stores that sell some grocery items and smaller local stores. I assume with most places have at least a similar amount of choice. Loblaws prices for a lot of items aren't even cheaper than the smaller mom and pop stores anymore due to the amount of gouging they've been doing since inflation gave them an excuse to jack up prices on many items. Stores like Dollarama also have a decent selection of canned and dry goods, spices and baking supplies these days and are a lot cheaper than Loblaws. Honestly, fuck Loblaws.

Can confirm. Snuck a look at the display on one of those price guns the employees use and they show cost, price and profit margin for whatever you scan. Some of the margins are absurd, even for the stuff on promotion.

Im curious why dont europeans and canadians have more kids. Young people are needed to keep an economy running but people dont want to sacrifice standard of living. So instead they bring in indians and arabs to work.

Its only pajeets and third worlders who will continue to have kids even when living in squalor, like that Nigerian woman bringing her 10 year old here to live in a one bedroom apartment.

Correction: 13 yo daughter to share a bedroom with her in a 3 bedroom-1 bath house along with 8 other people. Yeah I don't blame anyone for wanting not to "sacrifice their standard of living" in this way and subject kids to it.

Many Canadians understand that children should not be brought up under such conditions and so would rather be financially stable before thinking of having kids.
Problem is that goal was achievable by the age of 24 some time ago, whereas now it's looking unlikely for a number of 35 year olds even.

If young people are needed to keep an economy running, what does it say about the economy of a country when native young people can't find jobs because they're being scooped up by foreigners who will work for much less? That they need to create more young people to make the situation worse? The "low birth rate" arguments don't make any sense in the case of Canada.

 

[MajinGoku]

Canada already has too many degree holders outside of healthcare. We need carpenters and nurses and the government is bringing in petroleum and electrical engineers who end up working at Burger King because we already have enough of those. It's asinine.

Im curious why dont europeans and canadians have more kids. Young people are needed to keep an economy running but people dont want to sacrifice standard of living. So instead they bring in indians and arabs to work.

 

[Never Scored]

Im curious why dont europeans and canadians have more kids.

I have several children. Don't ask me.

Young people are needed to keep an economy running but people dont want to sacrifice standard of living. So instead they bring in indians and arabs to work.

We need nurses and doctors to look after old people. We need tradesmen to build houses.

A lot of minimum wage jobs such as checkout counters are at the point where they can easily be automated away and that's what would be happening to low-skill jobs nobody wants to in a properly functioning economy. Shunting electrical engineers we don't need behind the counter at McDonald's is retarded. We are doing that because capital investment in Canada is incredibly low, and it's easier and cheaper for franchisee owners to petition the government to bring in more brown people to work those jobs than it is to do the proper thing and invest in automating them away.

It is not possible for the population to grow into infinity, so if the economy is built on the assumption that the population will grow into infinity, the economy is built on bullshit.

 

[DiscoRodeo]

Two of Canada's three largest political parties have a "We're not America" stance. Literally anything they can do to distinguish Canada from the US, no matter how retarded it gets, will be a victory in their eyes.

I remember growing up and hearing how the "US is a melting pot, and Canada is a "mosaic" or a "salad" of different cultures. People from around the world went to the US to become Americans. People around the world didn't come to Canada to become Canadian, nor did the Canadian government want them to be Canadian, they were encouraged to keep their cultural and ethnic identity.

And now we have entire chunks of Canada resembling India, China, and Middle Eastern shitholes. But at least we're not forcing them to become Canadian.

Ill say it again- the melting pot is so much better.

Used to hear rap songs about people 'burning' in the melting pot, etc.

And while the melting pot isn't as successful in the US any longer (many US states are more multicultural)- the ideal end point, as you say, is they are American first, and only keep the trappings or fringes of their motherlands culture.

Maybe they have some ethnic food at home, maybe someone wears a tartan on certain days of the year, etc.

Really though, you have this, and you have other cultures that melt easier into the melting pot. But yeah, god forbid you don't even try to melt people into the melting pot at all, and you wind up where we are today.

Also what’s so bad about not having constant growth as in GDP line must always go up by 10% a year? Fuck your small GDP.

Its taxes. Pensions must be sustained, government must have its revenue, etc.

Im curious why dont europeans and canadians have more kids. Young people are needed to keep an economy running but people dont want to sacrifice standard of living. So instead they bring in indians and arabs to work.

Current generations are severely delayed, people cant afford to buy homes, dont have decent jobs, aren't stable, etc. A large chunk of people are still working McJobs in minimum wage positions, or as someone pointed out, are former middle class and now living in an apartment unit with 10 Pajeets in the others.

Its only pajeets and third worlders who will continue to have kids even when living in squalor, like that Nigerian woman bringing her 10 year old here to live in a one bedroom apartment.

You can say just have kids anyways?! But its like, how are you supposed to have kids if your job is at Dollarama or the LCBO, etc, let alone get married, have a house, etc?

 

[MajinGoku]

if canada isnt a melting pot of people what is it?

 

[Baraka Obama]

Im curious why dont europeans and canadians have more kids. Young people are needed to keep an economy running but people dont want to sacrifice standard of living. So instead they bring in indians and arabs to work.

In yesteryear there used to be a real problem of unwed teenage mothers. Government response was insane levels of propaganda -- contraceptives sure but also basically scaring teens into believing their lives will be ruined if they have a child. That propoganda was very effective and you see a lot of people believing you need to have all ducks lined up before having kids; great job paying well, career well established, detached house, never want to have fun ever again, etc etc.

Trouble is by the time you get there and you're into your 30s fertility plummets and birth carries a lot of risk for mothers. Even for parents that get everything ready they may end up doing invitro and having maybe one.

That and the propaganda causing many to just decide not to have children at all.

Anecdotal but most of the Indians I know came here in their late-20s / early-30s and are like completely incapable of dating / marrying before you know fertility drops off a cliff.

 

[Leaf Wage Slave Jr]

if canada isnt a melting pot of people what is it?

A borderline failed state - and the borderline is mostly a matter of "when will the ponzi scheme that is our economy fall to shit like all ponzi schemes tend to do." Hence the thread.

We import these people not because we need skilled workers - the jobs just don't exist up here, especially when you can go to America for significantly better wages in non-Monopoly money - but to try and prop up the various government services (ex. Pension) via having more people to tax, but no one apparently twigged that bringing in this many people that fast would just strain those services even more that they already were due to them bringing relatives that get all the benefits without ever having paid into the system.

At this point, anyone who's stuck here should stock up on popcorn and see how quickly the rats flee once the gibs inevitably run dry.

 

[MajinGoku]

Is there any chance of canada becoming unfucked. Also if the situation is this bad where people cant afford shit then why is trudeau still in power

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

Canada already has too many degree holders outside of healthcare. We need carpenters and nurses and the government is bringing in petroleum and electrical engineers who end up working at Burger King because we already have enough of those. It's asinine.

To be fair I wouldn’t trust a Pajeet carpenter

 

[DiscoRodeo]

In yesteryear there used to be a real problem of unwed teenage mothers. Government response was insane levels of propaganda -- contraceptives sure but also basically scaring teens into believing their lives will be ruined if they have a child. That propoganda was very effective and you see a lot of people believing you need to have all ducks lined up before having kids; great job paying well, career well established, detached house, never want to have fun ever again, etc etc.

Trouble is by the time you get there and you're into your 30s fertility plummets and birth carries a lot of risk for mothers. Even for parents that get everything ready they may end up doing invitro and having maybe one.

That and the propaganda causing many to just decide not to have children at all.

Anecdotal but most of the Indians I know came here in their late-20s / early-30s and are like completely incapable of dating / marrying before you know fertility drops off a cliff.

Ill go on the inverse and say that you don't honestly need to have all your ducks lined up for kids, and call it irresponsible, but many are fine without having all their ducks lined up;

Some former teens I knew in the 2000s who had kids right after high school are doing fine enough, and their kids are as well. In some ways, I actually envy their irresponsibility, because they were irresponsible at just the right time, when the economy was okay, when they could get boomer parents to help if they needed, when there were more jobs and careers, etc (unironically, some of them did better jumping straight into the workforce, then people who spend half a decade in college/university and went into debt).

But the crisis we're going through today is on an entirely different scale. Like I would not have a kid if I had to share a three bedroom house with 8 pajeets.

Thats the current reality. I know some people having kids while living in their parents basements now, but its like- such a nightmaric situation. Let alone how do you even find a mate and get married in that situation?

But if you want to know why many are delaying getting married, or having kids- arguably I think this has a huge impact on said situation.

Is there any chance of canada becoming unfucked

In the short term, no.

In the long term, it would require all the jeets to leave, but even then the damage is already done. Suppose all the jeets leave in 10 years and people are in their 40s now. What are they supposed to do? Save to buy a house then, start a career then?

Nah.

Most smart people are out of this country, unironically- or finding other ways to survive and pay less taxes and quiet quitting the national agenda.

The country as a whole is fucked. Maybe internal migration is the solution and some areas or towns that are more stable, but unironically, smug shitliberalism did this country in.

Its actually a shame. Canada in the 2000s was pretty racially harmonious when immigration was minimal and controlled. All it took was shitlibs deciding that they wanted to import the entire third world (especially the indians) to make the entire country justifiably racist.

But even then, I have no faith in shitlibs who cheered on things like the vax mandate or importing the third world initially, who are 'repentant' now and want to take zero responsibility for their proclivity to groupthink, which seems to be far too many Canadians

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

Im curious why dont europeans and canadians have more kids. Young people are needed to keep an economy running but people dont want to sacrifice standard of living. So instead they bring in indians and arabs to work.

Canadians are willing to sacrifice standard of living to have kids. We just aren’t willing to be crammed into houses or neighbourhoods with Pajeet rapists.

 

[Baraka Obama]

Ill go on the inverse and say that you don't honestly need to have all your ducks lined up for kids, and call it irresponsible, but many are fine without having all their ducks lined up;

But the crisis we're going through today is on an entirely different scale. Like I would not have a kid if I had to share a three bedroom house with 8 pajeets.

Thats the current reality. I know some people having kids while living in their parents basements, but its like- such a nightmaric situation. Let alone how do you even find a mate and get married in that situation?

I explained why birth rates are low.

I can't explain why anyone would want to live in Toronto.

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

if canada isnt a melting pot of people what is it?

It's a fucking balkanization of ethnic groups. That's how Canada is set up right now. In times of hardship, civil war is inevitable. I pray thay it comes so that pajeets get destroyed. Brampton, Surrey, winnipeg, all the diploma mill colleges. Literal nukes. No exceptions.

 

[MajinGoku]

It's a fucking balkanization of ethnic groups. That's how Canada is set up right now. In times of hardship, civil war is inevitable. I pray thay it comes so that pajeets get destroyed. Brampton, Surrey, winnipeg, all the diploma mill colleges. Literal nukes. No exceptions.

do you think trudeau will be reelected

 

[Baraka Obama]

It's a fucking balkanization of ethnic groups. That's how Canada is set up right now. In times of hardship, civil war is inevitable. I pray thay it comes so that pajeets get destroyed. Brampton, Surrey, winnipeg, all the diploma mill colleges. Literal nukes. No exceptions.

It's worse than that, the balkans at Yugoslavia's end could mostly be split up into states on ethno-religious lines with some cross migration but not a ton. How do that with Surrey BC and Brampton?

 

[Lord Xenu]

Im curious why dont europeans and canadians have more kids.

Even if I agreed that this was a problem (I do not) immigration is only a temporary solution. Statistically, the next generation of immigrants have the exact same low birthrates. Are we supposed to have infinite immigration until eventually the only people left in Canada are Indians? We need infinite immigrants to support those aging immigrants who didn't have kids either?
This one fact proves that the problem is systemic. I'd liken it to how animals will not have as many offspring in a bad season, one without enough food to sustain them. Rabbits are like this, they have boom cycles every few years.
Or it's like when you have an aquarium thats too small, the fish will only grow to a certain size, and they will eat most of their offspring. If you put them in a larger aquarium the problem is solved. The economy, taxation and housing are the aquarium in this context.

 

[Clusterfuckk2]

Canada is considered a ‘cultural mosaic’
Where everyone is free to celebrate their own identity and push that on native Canadians. According to Castro Jr and his stepfather before him; Canada has no culture so we need infinite niggers to give us some.