Canada is a failed state

[macrodegenerate]

You can't even hide in the rural areas, once they break into your house, you're house location is catalogued. In boring shitholes like Inuvik and Thompson, Crime is around 10x worse than Detroit, Michigan.

In rural areas in the south and UP MI, reported trespassing and burgleries are extremely low. Incidentally it's not uncommon for drug addicts and people with a history of these crimes to just go missing to be found months or even years later if at all. Local authorities barely even respond to reports of their absence.

It is worth noting that this trend is on the rise in Detroit in which the crime rate has steadily been lowering. Yet there have been increasing reports of roving packs of dogs in certain unpopulated areas near abandoned buildings irregardless of a lack of people feeding them. Dogs which while lacking rabies have a tendency to be aggressive and attack people almost like they have a taste for them.

I think the citizens in these areas have come to understand the role of the police as "the clean up crew", and have decided to react accordingly to people who wrong them in the moment. The police have decided to just accept the consequences of that as it makes their jobs easier. It's the same in Chicago, and why violent crime is so high in comparison to nonviolent crime. Do you think Canadians will adopt this trend?

 

[Ser Prize]

No, it gives you the right to security of the person which justifies self-defense. The Supreme Court ruled in R. v. Hasselwander (1993) there is no constitutional right to firearms ownership in Canada.

Man, I wonder what the people who wrote the charter would think about that.

 

[Clusterfuckk2]

in this shithole country we can ‘technically’ stand our ground however it’s likely that if you had any opportunity at all to retreat or call the police, you will be nailed to the cross for causing death or grievous injury. You are expected to behave in the cucked way Justin prefers and run away like a bitch.

 

[Baraka Obama]

No wonder Canada is the fucking dangerous shithole it is

Which Canada is this? Sounds like a west canada issue. East of Montreal you could strike up a conversation with a rando you met in a rural town and make a friend pretty easily. In most of Southern Ontario let's say excluding Brampton, Scarborough, Hamilton, and London it's very, very safe, not leave your doors unlocked safe but generally you can feel fine letting your guard down.

 

[Never Scored]

My understanding with the self defense thing is you are not allowed to carry a weapon explicitly for self defense and that's what people usually get nailed on.

So like, Let's say someone breaks into your house and you feel they are a threat to your family. So you pick up a bat by the door to chase them away. If that bat is there explicitly to beat someone if they break in, you are fucked. If the bat is there because your kid plays baseball and it just happened to be handy, you're fine. It's an incredibly asinine distinction. This is why pepper spray is sold as dog deterrent in Canada, even though those little keychain sprayers are clearly intended for self defense.

With the reasonable force thing, if you get one or two smacks in with your kid's bat, he runs out of the house and that's the end of it, you're generally fine. If you pursue him, or if he goes down and you keep beating him that is unreasonable force and you'll be fucked in court.

So I dunno, maybe a good idea to store a tool box with a crowbar and a couple hammers under the bed if you're worried. It's easy to justify why it's there, and you could give someone a good whack with a crowbar if they broke in.

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

You can still beat criminals to death.

 

[macrodegenerate]

It's easy to justify why it's there, and you could give someone a good whack with a crowbar if they broke in.

Buddy the impact of a full size iron crowbar swung at full strength is definitely going to injure or kill someone. What are you going to tell the cops when the guy is choking on his own blood after you send a fractured rib into one of his lungs? Because that's what a chest hit will do. You're looking at at least a fracture on a limb, most likely when he guards with an arm. Hit him in the back or neck and it's over. Hit him in the head and the best outcome is he will drop seizing and have brain damage if he wakes up. Fuck dude.

 

[Baraka Obama]

Buddy the impact of a full size iron crowbar swung at full strength is definitely going to injure or kill someone. What are you going to tell the cops when the guy is choking on his own blood after you send a fractured rib into one of his lungs? Because that's what a chest hit will do. You're looking at at least a fracture on a limb, most likely when he guards with an arm. Hit him in the back or neck and it's over. Hit him in the head and the best outcome is he will drop seizing and have brain damage if he wakes up. Fuck dude.

Good?

 

[y a t s]

Which Canada is this? Sounds like a west canada issue. East of Montreal you could strike up a conversation with a rando you met in a rural town and make a friend pretty easily. In most of Southern Ontario let's say excluding Brampton, Scarborough, Hamilton, and London it's very, very safe, not leave your doors unlocked safe but generally you can feel fine letting your guard down.

This is quickly becoming a problem on the east coast as darkies flood in to find housing. I have some family out that way, and their area was always really quiet and relatively safe. Now they also have the problem of niggerians breaking into their cars, not even wearing face coverings to hide from cameras. Apparently someone in their neighborhood got the criminals on footage, and one of the faggots who stole the car literally smiled smugly at the camera. They have the Pajeet menace too, but their crimes are typically different.

We can't have anything nice, because the browns come and take it all every single time without fail.

Buddy the impact of a full size iron crowbar swung at full strength is definitely going to injure or kill someone. What are you going to tell the cops when the guy is choking on his own blood after you send a fractured rib into one of his lungs? Because that's what a chest hit will do. You're looking at at least a fracture on a limb, most likely when he guards with an arm. Hit him in the back or neck and it's over. Hit him in the head and the best outcome is he will drop seizing and have brain damage if he wakes up. Fuck dude.

Yeah, it's easy to underestimate just how heavy an average crowbar is; a lot of people do until they first try to lift one. I keep one in my car to smash ice that piles up around the tires. I'm sure you could easily crack a guy's skull open with one good whack.

 

[Never Scored]

Buddy the impact of a full size iron crowbar swung at full strength is definitely going to injure or kill someone. What are you going to tell the cops when the guy is choking on his own blood after you send a fractured rib into one of his lungs? Because that's what a chest hit will do. You're looking at at least a fracture on a limb, most likely when he guards with an arm. Hit him in the back or neck and it's over. Hit him in the head and the best outcome is he will drop seizing and have brain damage if he wakes up. Fuck dude.

I mean, that's kind of the point? If you're trapped in close quarters with someone who violently broke into your home, you have reason to believe they will harm you or your family, and you grabbed a crowbar that was close by, cracked them in the head and killed them in one swing, you may get charged with manslaughter, but I guarantee you're not getting convicted, even in Canada.

Now if he ran away when he saw the crowbar and you went after him? Different story.

Anyone who disagrees, show me a case where someone got convicted, not charged, but convicted, for hitting someone who broke into their house at night with a tire iron or ball bat or something in self defense.

*Edit* Here's a recent example where an occupant outright stabbed and killed a guy who broke into his house and didn't even end up getting charged.

 

[macrodegenerate]

I mean, that's kind of the point? If you're trapped in close quarters with someone who violently broke into your home, you have reason to believe they will harm you or your family, and you grabbed a crowbar that was close by, cracked them in the head and killed them in one swing, you may get charged with manslaughter, but I guarantee you're not getting convicted, even in Canada.

Now if he ran away when he saw the crowbar and you went after him? Different story.

Anyone who disagrees, show me a case where someone got convicted, not charged, but convicted, for hitting someone who broke into their house at night with a tire iron or ball bat or something in self defense.

*Edit* Here's a recent example where an occupant outright stabbed and killed a guy who broke into his house and didn't even end up getting charged.

I don't understand why the other guy turned himself in. Are Canadians this retarded?

 

[Brutality]

Man, I wonder what the people who wrote the charter would think about that.

Jean Chretien's still alive and he's still 100% behind Justin's dictatorial regime

 

[Clusterfuckk2]

I don't understand why the other guy turned himself in. Are Canadians this retarded?

Yes

 

[Betonhaus]

Jean Chretien's still alive and he's still 100% behind Justin's dictatorial regime

He's probably also in an old folks home where access to information is carefully curated

 

[Mordecai "3 Finger" Brown]

Fucking hate this bullshit healthcare system. It's just endless waitlists.

Of all the patients I ever referred to Psychiatry over the years, I only ever got confirmation that one was ever seen.

It was an older woman who was on an antiquated and difficult to manage depression drug who had failed everything else.

I told her I wouldn't prescribe it & manage it for her, so we had to find her a psychiatrist with expertise who would either take on the responsibility or find an alternative.

I begrudgingly continued to prescribe it and manage the potential ill effects for over a year.

Then one day I got a consult letter back from Psychiatry that they'd assessed her, hadn't changed shit and were discharging her back to my care.

When I all but threatened in my referral note that they'd better take her on or I'd abandon her.

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

He's probably also in an old folks home where access to information is carefully curated

Doesn't have to be carefully curated when most old people can't use computers (in the lobby), TVs in the room play CBC/Global/CTV and Toronto Star / other papers are delivered to the nursing home

 

[Lord of the Large Pants]

I have to go to Toronto on business next month.

Am I going to die?

 

[Prehistoric Jazz]

I have to go to Toronto on business next month.

Am I going to die?

Yes. Statistically speaking, everyone who ever went to Toronto eventually died.

 

[Lord of the Large Pants]

Yes. Statistically speaking, everyone who ever went to Toronto eventually died.

I knew I couldn't trust those syrup chugging bastards.

 

[Alex Hogendorp]

Which Canada is this? Sounds like a west canada issue. East of Montreal you could strike up a conversation with a rando you met in a rural town and make a friend pretty easily. In most of Southern Ontario let's say excluding Brampton, Scarborough, Hamilton, and London it's very, very safe, not leave your doors unlocked safe but generally you can feel fine letting your guard down.

It is a west Canada issue for the most part especially North Canada. I hear Quebec is also really safe as well. The Calgary Metro Area along with the Edmonton Metro Area has some really safe places too. Where I live, it's not too bad. Only experienced property crime once in 2016 and it was really just a stolen piece of Halloween decorations.