Canada is a failed state

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Besides the jeets and housing bubble. Canada is in a pretty good spot
>Everything is fine if you ignore the things that everyone agrees is turning everything to shit.

That's like saying that there's no inflation because you removed from the calculation every necessary purchase like gas or meat that has skyrocketed in price.
 
Let me explain my reasoning

EU is full steam ahead in supporting ukraine, despite the americans already backing out. This is suicide
America is in a trade war... With china, the country that makes everything. This doesn't make any sense

CANADA
-is geographically distant from any wars
-is following america's lead into backing out of ukraine
-isn't in a trade war with china
-has pretty good relations with china
-supplies America with energy and natural resources (which will be cut off, if America ever tries to annex canada)
(Good luck convincing troops to go to war with canada with all the other present "threats" America is currently facing)
(America would sooner nuke israel, than send troops to annex canada)

Besides the jeets and housing bubble. Canada is in a pretty good spot.
The "every other neoliberal Western state is declining and there's AIDS babies dying in Africa so be grateful to live in Canada" style cope is the worst type of slave cope that for some reason is extremely prevalent amongst Canadians, I think it has to do with the Canadian psychology of having an intense inferiority complex with the US so they always have a relative measure of themselves to others from a position of inferiority and failure.

"Canada is in a pretty good spot" isn't good enough for people that actually respect themselves and want the most out of life, it's a cope for downwardly mobile slaves coping with the decline of their nation. The best example of this is Carney himself. His entire family, his wife, all of his kids, they all live in the US for better opportunities, better healthcare, etc... His most prized boomer nostalgia artifacts he brought out to scam retarded boomer leafs during his campaign, Neil Young and Mike Myers, they also live in the US because there's better opportunity for themselves and their families. Do you think Carney is going to wait for a family doctor in Ottawa for ten years like some kind of third world refugee or peasant Canadian slave? He's only coming back to increase shareholder value for Brookfield and get a fat juicy stock grant after he fucks off back to a country it's actually worth it for a rich person to live in, which sure as fuck isn't Canada.

Focusing on the lower end of citizens, the reason Canada's decline is so palpable amongst normal leafs is because once you get past Canada's objectively terrible economic decline in numbers, Canada's decline is captured in non-quantifiable social decline as a result of mass third world immigration.

If you have been in any large metropolitan area in Canada you can walk around populous areas and not hear a single word of English or French. "Canada is in a pretty good spot", what the FUCK even is Canada? What is the actual point of Canada existing? If Canada is just a box to hold the warm bodies of third worlders in and you accept that definition you are a literal slave and there's no saving you. I have lived in poor areas in the US and be it a poor red state meth shithole or a latino enclave interacting with those people is infinitely more communal and friendly than the hyper-atomized camp of saints Canada's neoliberals are building.
 
All true but I doubt this will occur as Canada Post refuses to take part in the gun confiscation program and RCMP is severely understaffed.

Unless they plan to staff the RCMP with Khalistani terrorists (on a mass scale even more than it already is) this won't happen.

This is especially ironic since Sikhs are conservative when it comes to owning weapons, with all of them carrying Kirpans.
The liberals got very pissed when the conservatives took away the gun registration for unrestricted firearms. So they have been going hard on banning everything. And if you dare try to criticize their plans, you get hit with "Think of the women and children. Don't you want a safer Canada?" , of course the rebuttal is "Well, you brought the crime by accepting all sort of shitty immigrants." but then you are called racist and nazi.

I got my license and bought a semi-auto rifle (restricted rifle)to enjoy some target shooting at a club, I did this a few times a year, just enjoyed being at the range and fiddling with my scope and see how good I was at different ranges, it was a simple hobby.
Two years later, it gets put on a prohibited list, thanks to an idiot in Nova Scotia (i think it was there) , that stole or built a police car, and went on a rampage killing about 18 people (I could be very wrong with this number). Liberals roll out a program to buy back handguns at 300 dollars a piece and rifles at 200 dollars (CDN) a piece. My rifle cost me 1200 dollars, not counting a bag to carry it, trigger lock, lock for the bag, etc.

I miss the hobby so a year later I buy another rifle, this time I make sure it is unrestricted (barrel is 18.5 inch or longer) , built locally in Ontario, uses the AR10 as a base but some parts of AR15. I use it for a few months, then an idiot in Barrie, Ontario, living in a trailer, takes his rifle and starts shooting random people. Couple months go by and my rifle is now part of the new 149 banned rifles.

So now I have 2 paper weight rifles that can't be moved and the liberals never offered me money (peanuts really) to buy them back.

Every time I look at the news, which is like once or twice a month now, there is another shooting in Brampton, Etobicoke or downtown Toronto. Always some niggers or pajeets doing gang related shit. Anything get banned because of their doings? No. Some random Canadian with some mental illness goes off the rails and the rest of the upstanding citizens suffer.

I know Alberta created their own RCMP head, or they were planning too, because of all the ridiculous gun and rifle bans. And this started some new talks about Alberta separating from Canada, that and I believe the Canadian Pension Plan was also a big issue. They wanted to control their own.

I used to go to a couple of canadian rifle forums but I became jaded thanks to how fervently they believed the conservatives would fix the problem next election, and all I can see is a political party that does not care and does not seem to have much teeth.

Now Carney is also thinking of making it mandatory by next year the banning of ICE vehicle sales.

I really hope Alberta separates and I move there.

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Every major party leader has pledged to keep Ukranian Aid at its current levels at least

China has been dog piling on us with the US tariffs. While we may have better relations with them that's mostly because of the notable communist lovers in the Trudeau family (figuratively and literally)

We may supply some northern states with electricity, but if we ever do what Carney or fat retard Doug Ford says and cut it off the first thing they'll do if they don't declare war on us is start localizing their power grid, and any leverage we may have had will be gone.

"Besides the main problems of the country Canada is doing fine." Lmao
Thanks to the AI push, the USA is finally investing in their power grid with new nuclear power plants. God forbid they would improve it for their citizens. Anyways, once the AI bubble pops and there is only a couple of AI companies left who are being subsidized by military and government money, I'm sure the government will use some of the new power plants for local cities and Quebec's economy will dry up.

Unless, the Canadian government makes EV mandatory at gun point, then Ontario and neighboring provinces will subsidize Quebec's way of life.
 
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Canada's got serious problems but everyday I thank God for not making me an Amerimutt.
Visit Niagra, Ontario. Then visit Niagra, New York. It'll tell you all you need to know about the americans
 
Canada's got serious problems but everyday I thank God for not making me an Amerimutt.
Visit Niagra, Ontario. Then visit Niagra, New York. It'll tell you all you need to know about the americans

I've never been to the NY side (although I hear they have a posh casino).

One time in college we took the Greyhound to Niagara Falls, ON on a whim.

The bus depot was way on the civilian side, so we had to hoof it across town to get to Clifton Hill.

All I remember was how sketchy the actual town was when traversing it on foot. And how run down the strip itself was if you walked a block or two off of it.

This was some time ago too, long before Canada became a jeet-conquered shithole.
 
I've never been to the NY side (although I hear they have a posh casino).

One time in college we took the Greyhound to Niagara Falls, ON on a whim.

The bus depot was way on the civilian side, so we had to hoof it across town to get to Clifton Hill.

All I remember was how sketchy the actual town was when traversing it on foot. And how run down the strip itself was if you walked a block or two off of it.

This was some time ago too, long before Canada became a jeet-conquered shithole.
The US side is a couple nice casinos and massive sprawling half abandoned suburbs and city blocks that make Detriot look good. Intense levels of crime and shootings. You will drive by burned out houses and cars and convenince stores with better security than some prisons. Canada side has sone sketchy neighborhoods but nothing out of a war zone.
 
Also the restaurants have weird as fuck hours. The fucking Popeye’s was closed in the middle of the week!

Clifton Hill was one of my first lessons in being gouged (other than movie theaters) and that chain restaurants could have different pricing in tourist traps.

I remember going to TGIF on the strip and being shocked that a burger costed 30 dollars long before Trudeau-flation.
 
The most disturbing truth that has been realized this election is that Canada has become fully "South-Americanized".

There's really two types of contemporary economic leftism, traditional 20th century unions/worker rights/living wage worker-based leftism, and welfaremaxxed failing state money printing bribe ethnic groups to vote for you type leftism. With the total collapse of the NDP it's clear that the productive worker-based style of economic leftism is completely dead in Canada, and even the weak unions that are left shill for mass third world migration to lower their members' wages. Going forward the third world hyperinflationary style of economic leftism will be the norm in Canada. Unions and workers rights will not come back and will be degraded further.

In many areas of Canada you have gone from places that voted NDP for worker/union reasons or Conservative for social reasons, filled with useful blue collar workers that just wanted to be productive, to places that vote for Liberals, all because their economies are so fucked either from government decisions or market failures that they want the government to turn on the money printer to bail them out. All of the natives are like this, all of the maritimes are like this, the cities have high unemployment and are now like this too as well, and every fractured ethnic tribal group the Liberals have imported will be like this. The cost of printing to keep all these groups happy will be immense.

With this type of economic policy, there's little incentive for productive workers to stay in Canada. They will either pay for it through the devaluation of fiat currency, or be taxed to death. And because they get zero quality social services despite paying for the system, only the most loyal slaves will stay. With no increase in productivity, you cannot print your way out of the decline Canada is facing.

This situation has played out before in South America over the last several decades and the results in Canada will be similar.

- The upwardly mobile middle and upper-middle class will leave the country as it declines
- The poors will vote for more largesse from the treasury
- The elite will have to carefully balance ethnic tribalism of the poors as their standard of living declines
- The wealth divide will become even more extreme
- The ruling class will struggle to maintain control of the masses
- The ruling class will keep their assets outside the country
- The judiciary will be increasingly dictatorial and out of touch trying to maintain control, like Brazil
- Increasing political interference from ex-Canadian diaspora, like all the rich Miami latinos that fuck with their "home country" politics. Carney ran his campaign with expats and Democrats from the US.

From here I think the parallels diverge. In countries like Mexico the ruling class has a somewhat tightly run inequality system, where everybody knows where they stand in the order, and the people have a common shared cultural understanding and a long history together. The Laurentians think this system is possible in Canada, but it is not. They have made a catastrophic social leftist calculation that the groups they are importing can live in harmony beneath them.

Canada has opted to import muslims and jeets and the Chinese, the most hyper-tribal groups that exist on Earth. The Laurentians will absolutely lose control and this loss of control will be spectacular, and when this happens they will flee the country too. What will be left is a bombed out poverty zone filled with the worst parasites on Earth with nobody to manage them and a political system of pure Tribal warfare. Instead of getting a United Arab Emirates or a Brazil Canada's elites are going to get a Rhodesia or a South Africa. Perhaps a Cape Town style legacy settlement will remain in Montreal, but that will be it.

It's hilarious that boomers are scared of becoming a 51st state because with all the interference from Democrats they have endorsed what they have is already a second Puerto Rico.
 
It's clear we don't live in the same reality

no amount of reasoning/conjecture will get you guys to think about what I'm saying.

You have a conclusion "Canada is a failed state", and you're working backwards to try to prove it.

I don't particularly care about canada's future. So i'm looking at things from a comparative point of view. and Europe and America have already fallen off the cliff. Canada is still salvageable given the relatively tiny population compared to its land mass.
100 years from now, I think canada will still exist. I'm not too sure about America.

Perhaps it's just the natural life cycle of civilizations? Canada is about 100 years younger than the united states. This might also explain why canada always seems to lag behind the united states by 10-20 years.

When I think about, both Russia and China have already been through a collapse, and have rebuilt themselves from the ground up. I think the united states is due for a collapse soon. I do not know what will emerge.
 
Guys, guys, guys, hear me out!!! What if we gave Jeb Bush Canadian citizenship and made him leader of the Liberal Party?

Imagine the entertainment we would get from Jeb trying negotiate and do trade agreements with Trump.
 
Is there a Canada thread that isn't uh... this depressing? I get that realistically we're in the shitter and the future is bleak - but despair is a sin, y'know? Do we have a thread that's a little more proactive, maybe talks about how to scam Hindus and pit them against Sikhs?
 
use your words and ask questions.
actually try to have a discussion instead of pushing an agenda you clown
you said you are gonna GTFO this thread.

Also, you are so retarded.

Is there a Canada thread that isn't uh... this depressing? I get that realistically we're in the shitter and the future is bleak - but despair is a sin, y'know? Do we have a thread that's a little more proactive, maybe talks about how to scam Hindus and pit them against Sikhs?

They do it to themselves. Why bother. There is more fucking ethnic protest and celebration than "Canadian" celebration.



This is not a country. This is a colony.
 
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