Canada is a failed state

The Canadian boomer TDS psyoprotests were all renamed to fucking 'No Tyrants'

We are genuinely the most pathetic 🤡 country imaginable
Why do we always have to end up going to the most gay & lame outcome as possible at every turn leafbros (:_(
 
WanderingWalker said:
The Canadian boomer TDS psyoprotests were all renamed to fucking 'No Tyrants'

We are genuinely the most pathetic 🤡 country imaginable
Why do we always have to end up going to the most gay & lame outcome as possible at every turn leafbros (:_(
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I remember at the last "no kings protest" I told boomers that canada actually has a king, much to their chagrin.
 
WanderingWalker said:
No Tyrants
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Canadians seriously have nothing better to do but protest a president in a country they supposedly want nothing to do with. All of this bullshit about Canadian-made and elbows up and meanwhile they still expect to be taken seriously when protesting against something that has NOTHING TO DO WITH US. I hope Trump nukes us all in response, it's what we deserve at this rate.
 
Anyone been paying any attention to the NDP leadership race? Probably not, since it doesn't seem like leftists tend to hang around here and most of us likely just see them as an extension of the LPC after the last decade of Jangmeet Singh rubber stamping every single thing Trudeau did. Though greatly diminished from the Jack Layton days, the NDP still, technically plays kingmaker in the HoC and could force an election if they wanted to. It's hard to see how any new leader would deviate from "extracting" "concessions" from the LPC.

Well there's this guy, Yves Engler, running.
Yves Engler (born 1979)<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yves_Engler#cite_note-1"><span>[</span>1<span>]</span></a> is a Canadian writer, political activist, and critic of Canadian foreign policy based in Montreal. In addition to twelve published books, Engler's writings have appeared in alternative press and in mainstream publications such as The Globe and Mail, Toronto Star, Ottawa Citizen, and Ecologist. Engler has announced his candidacy in the 2026 federal NDP leadership election, but he is not an officially recognized candidate as of October 2025.

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Without looking up the rest of the candidates, he is certain to be the most extreme out of all of them. The policies he wants to implement as PM are on his website, some of which include:
  • Seizing and nationalizing all: banks, telecommunications companies, energy companies, farms, grocery stores and automobile factories.
  • Phasing out oil and gas and moving to green energy like wind, solar, tidal, geothermal (banning nuclear power at the same time ofc).
  • National rent freeze; seizing REITs and turning them into cooperative housing projects.
  • "abolishing" college/university tuitions and student debt.
  • Completely privatize all healthcare and have three year parental leave periods
  • Publicly owned e-bike and car sharing programs
  • Increase funding for CBC, news media, arts, libraries
  • Creating worker assemblies for "workplace democracy"
While these are all things you will commonly hear from the left and the NDP, Engler is not exactly welcome in polite society. His activism, usually in support of Palestine and against Israel, has generally involved him crashing political speeches and conferences, screaming obscenities at certain people and videotaping it while he gets thrown out of the building. He has recently been charged with obstruction and harassment. Yves has also alienated himself from other leftists amid accusations of antisemitism by using terms like "Jewish supremacism" in his crusade against Israel. He's written on it himself here.

While he probably will never make it to the official leadership race, I predict the party will likely invoke its "we don't like you" clause to keep him from finishing the NDP off in spectacular fashion. But if that somehow doesn't happen, I actually wish Yves luck in winning. He knows he will never have to actually implement his insane list of policies, but theoretically if he did win he could introduce some much needed instability into federal politics. He doesn't seem like the type of guy who be happy propping the LPC for dentalcare or 3 dollar daycare.

I also want to post about this other candidate who popped up on my feed recently, Rob Ashton.

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While Engler comes from the more lunatic street activist type of leftist, Rob seems to be playing the role of wholesome blue collar guy looking to get the NDP back it's CCF/CLC roots and away from the bourgeois champagne socialism it's know for today. He is a long time union longshoreman out of BC and president of the ILWU.

I really just wanted to say this guy gives me the weirdest vibes. Being a working man, of course you will never catch him in a suit, but his clothes always seem to either brand new clean or he gets his t-shirts ironed or pressed. He speaks in a very monotone fashion and doesn't invoke any passion, he seems very lifeless.

He posted this hilariously bad take on class analysis, where his definition of the working class not only includes people who work but also people who don't work along with the usual list of suspects like indigenous people, LGBTQ123+++MAP, and marginalized people who don't look like old white guys like him.

Canadian soylent drinker and bugman journalist, David Muscrop, gave him a piece in Jacobin this week. I'll pick out a couple parts here to illustrate why this guy just feels like the fakest and gayest man alive:

I talk to workers almost every day, whether they’re members of my union, members of other unions, or workers that have yet to find a home in a union. And I’ve had those hard shop floor and water cooler conversations about not being able to afford food or housing for their families.

Take my youngest daughter. When I told her I was going to run for the NDP, she said, “You have to help out young people.” I asked what she meant and she said, “I can’t afford to move out of the house. It’s impossible.”
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Woah wait what do you mean "help out the young people"? Are houses that expensive right now? Of course, I'm sure he hasn't been oblivious to this fact up until the year 2025 when he's decided to run for federal leadership, however in typical boomer fashion the state of the country for young people comes as an afterthought ignited by his daughter, that lives at home with him. Lol.

When I talk about the working class, I talk about people who are not the rich and powerful. The working class are people who go to work every day as well as people who want to work but can’t find stable jobs or who have been pushed out of the workforce. This includes people who are marginalized, Indigenous people, LGBTQ+ members.

If you wake up in the morning and you don’t jump in a car that’s worth a million bucks, if your title isn’t CEO or CFO or something like that, you’re a member of the working class. If you’re a small business owner, you’re working class. That’s how I envision the working class. It’s an all-encompassing term that covers every rank-and-file Canadian.
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Again with this everyone is the working class except for maybe like ten individuals.

When the party made the supply and confidence deal with the Liberals, we got three big wins for Canadians: Pharmacare, dental care, and anti-scab legislation. But we lost the election. Those were NDP ideas, ideas we’d been pushing for decades. And when they finally happened, the Liberals ate our lunch — they took all the credit.
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Decades of deindustrialization have hit workers hard, particularly in cities and regions such as Hamilton, Windsor, and northern Vancouver Island. The NDP has, perhaps not surprisingly, sometimes lost support in these places while opposing certain extractive projects. How do you propose to rebuild Canada’s industrial base and create value-added jobs?
Rob Ashton
We’ve been told it’s “cheaper” overseas — but that’s just code for paying workers less while CEOs take more. The fix is power: workers need a real seat in the boardroom, not just at the bargaining table.

We can change regulations to make sure Canadian companies and workers benefit. Ships operating in Canadian waterways should be built in Canadian shipyards, houses and hospitals should use Canadian materials, and mines here should purchase Canadian-made equipment.

If we rebuild our industries with workers at the table, we’ll create good jobs that last and an economy built by workers, for workers.
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You don’t seem burdened by the brushed aluminum phoniness of media training. It’s easy to find clips of you talking about eating the rich and class war. You say you’ll speak the way you do at work — with color. Is that a deliberate choice? Did you ever consider giving into the Ottawa speak–style of talking about politics?
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My hope is the damn is going to finally break on this type of shit for these people. With the post-covid influx of eleventy-billion immigrants injected into the country, the Mr. Rob "Workingman" Ashtons of the left aren't going to be able to talk about "ANTI-SCAB LEGISLATION" or "THE CEOS" or "EAT THE RICH" without normies immediately coming to mind of the biggest scab program the modern world has ever seen and how it very obviously helps the rich over everyone else.
 
WanderingWalker said:
The Canadian boomer TDS psyoprotests were all renamed to fucking 'No Tyrants'

We are genuinely the most pathetic 🤡 country imaginable
Why do we always have to end up going to the most gay & lame outcome as possible at every turn leafbros (:_(
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And I thought the Hawaii TDS protests being renamed to "No Dictators" was pathetic enough.
 
Honestly, it makes sense that Canadians care so much about winning in sports, more than the quality of their actual country. Authoritarian countries historically care more about sporting events like the Olympics than normal countries due because they view it as a sign of national strength, especially if they beat a rival nation. Countries that had this view includes but are not limited to, nazi germany, the soviet union, yugoslavia, communist china, and of course, liberal canada.
paddy_wagon said:
While these are all things you will commonly hear from the left and the NDP, Engler is not exactly welcome in polite society. His activism, usually in support of Palestine and against Israel, has generally involved him crashing political speeches and conferences, screaming obscenities at certain people and videotaping it while he gets thrown out of the building. He has recently been charged with obstruction and harassment. Yves has also alienated himself from other leftists amid accusations of antisemitism by using terms like "Jewish supremacism" in his crusade against Israel. He's written on it himself here.
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while it's definitely unlikely Engler will win the leadership race, it's not impossible. In fact, smaller federal parties/regional branches are probably easier to be taken over by radicals. For example, fascists took over ontario's social credit party in the 1970s https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Credit_Party_of_Ontario#Fascist_takeover_and_split
 
The Cum Beast said:
Honestly, it makes sense that Canadians care so much about winning in sports, more than the quality of their actual country. Authoritarian countries historically care more about sporting events like the Olympics than normal countries due because they view it as a sign of national strength, especially if they beat a rival nation. Countries that had this view includes but are not limited to, nazi germany, the soviet union, yugoslavia, communist china, and of course, liberal canada.

while it's definitely unlikely Engler will win the leadership race, it's not impossible. In fact, smaller federal parties/regional branches are probably easier to be taken over by radicals. For example, fascists took over ontario's social credit party in the 1970s https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Credit_Party_of_Ontario#Fascist_takeover_and_split
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Yep. Canada was not even a blip in sports for a very long time. Then, suddenly, they started pouring money into sporting programs. Don't get me wrong; it did get results, but at the cost of actual national unity. It's kind of like in Britain right now, where you are only allowed to have national identity during sporting events.
 
The Cum Beast said:
while it's definitely unlikely Engler will win the leadership race
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Incredibly unlikely IMO. A lot of people might not want to hear this, but it has to be said: nobody will vote for a bald man. If he was serious about politics and he wasn't just a virtue signalling social retard with Oppositional Defiance Disorder, he'd have the common sense and decency to wear a toupée.
 
Betonhaus said:
nothing better to do but protest a president in a country they supposedly want nothing to do with. All of this bullshit about Canadian-made and elbows up and meanwhile they still expect to be taken seriously when protesting against something that has NOTHING TO DO WITH US. I hope Trump nukes us all in response, it's what we deserve at this rate.
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harbringer883 said:
I dont acknowledge the jewish royals.
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I only recognize the line of Edward VIII (too bad the roastie he married didn't pump out any children)
 
Yves Engler is a (literal) communist crank and he will destroy the NDP so completely, you'll end up confusing Jagmeet with Tommy Douglas. Easiest fucking dunk for the Tories and LPC ever. I would say he has no chance in hell of being party leader but they DID select Jagmeet, so you never know.

Rob Ashford is your standard boomer DA UNION guy who's trying to get more support for DA UNION from people that are normally opposed, eg. small business owners. Unfortunately for Rob it's a bit too late to try the WE'RE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER ploy in such a fractured, fractious country. He's correct that small business owners have more in common with lumberjacks and waiters than with our oligarch class, but they have nothing in common with the grievance-mongering crew, most of whom are tax leeches. A Canadian worker also has nothing in common with a TFW jeet who lives in a one-house slum and sends half his paycheck out of the country.
 
paddy_wagon said:
Well there's this guy, Yves Engler, running.
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This guy is a wild man. A life long loser with just enough money to stay afloat. A man with pretensions to academia, and being an intellectual. 12 books published by a terrible socialist Nova Scotian publisher and you no doubt can count all the copies sold on a single hand. The write up for Yves Engler has this quote from the Globe and Mail “Yves became a foreign-policy expert by working as a night doorman in Montreal." They try to play this quote off as he is an iconoclast, but it's a damning inditement of the man. He's done nothing, accomplished nothing. He bloviates for hundreds of pages on topics he knows nothing about.

I hope he wins.
 
OutInTheRain said:
This guy is a wild man. A life long loser with just enough money to stay afloat. A man with pretensions to academia, and being an intellectual. 12 books published by a terrible socialist Nova Scotian publisher and you no doubt can count all the copies sold on a single hand. The write up for Yves Engler has this quote from the Globe and Mail “Yves became a foreign-policy expert by working as a night doorman in Montreal." They try to play this quote off as he is an iconoclast, but it's a damning inditement of the man. He's done nothing, accomplished nothing. He bloviates for hundreds of pages on topics he knows nothing about.

I hope he wins.
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The best thing about him winning would be that it will continue the vote split on the left, should he win.
 
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