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So 3 of my uncles have also signed up as petition canvassers, and it’s been so much fun.

My family is very involved in local politics and they volunteer for all kinds of local groups. One uncle buries the locals at the community cemetery, another leads the ag society, just beloved people who just help all over the place and have for generations.

Two of them have rigged up trailers with signs, flags ( and heaters) and are driving all over collecting signatures.

It’s going great in the hinterlands. It’s wild though, the opposition is just emotionally incontinent. When they see the petition volunteers they will scream and insult my sweet uncles, who just smile back and say “ that’s a no then”. These deranged Elbows Up Canadians are constantly trying to get venues to disallow the volunteers.

When Luckaszyk was running his “Forever Canada” petition last year, no one bothered them at all. People see the difference.
Does it still seem like a comfortable level of support, any concerns about getting more then enough signatures in time? I would guess that over half of all needed signatures will have been collected by now, possibly even enough have been collected now.
 
Does it still seem like a comfortable level of support, any concerns about getting more then enough signatures in time? I would guess that over half of all needed signatures will have been collected by now, possibly even enough have been collected now.
Oh I signed a thing saying I wouldn’t give out exact numbers, and I can’t generalize beyond my local area, but we are exceeding our targets. People are fired up and the same people that organize everything are fully on board. We’ve got volunteers dashing all over the place- to people’s houses, scheduling meetings, getting invited to gatherings- I love seeing the energy. Our worst problems are occasionally running out of signature sheets, but we’re getting better at that.

It’s a lot of fun, actually, you can tell who’s winning out here based on the chill friendly party vibes of the volunteers versus the aggressively masked, overly vaccinated shrillness of the opponents. I think it’s a bit of a shock for the CBC watchers out here, who were told all their neighbours agreed with them and there are barely any separatists at all.

This is also a great reminder of the organizing infrastructure that low key keeps rural areas functioning, and as an aside serves to remind the local RCMP of why they don’t need to start shit with the local gun owners. A low-key stacking-up, if you will.
 
Toronto streetcar!
Toronto public transit has been full of junkies shooting up since like 2011 though. The city's always been the biggest shithole in the country outside of Winnipeg.
 
Does it still seem like a comfortable level of support, any concerns about getting more then enough signatures in time? I would guess that over half of all needed signatures will have been collected by now, possibly even enough have been collected now.
Oh I signed a thing saying I wouldn’t give out exact numbers, and I can’t generalize beyond my local area, but we are exceeding our targets. People are fired up and the same people that organize everything are fully on board. We’ve got volunteers dashing all over the place- to people’s houses, scheduling meetings, getting invited to gatherings- I love seeing the energy. Our worst problems are occasionally running out of signature sheets, but we’re getting better at that.

It’s a lot of fun, actually, you can tell who’s winning out here based on the chill friendly party vibes of the volunteers versus the aggressively masked, overly vaccinated shrillness of the opponents. I think it’s a bit of a shock for the CBC watchers out here, who were told all their neighbours agreed with them and there are barely any separatists at all.

This is also a great reminder of the organizing infrastructure that low key keeps rural areas functioning, and as an aside serves to remind the local RCMP of why they don’t need to start shit with the local gun owners. A low-key stacking-up, if you will.
I had a visit from an old friend who lives around Red Deer area, first time I seen him in 15 years. Anyways he's a tradesman and he told me that basically everyone he knows wants to separate. On the way to the airport the cab driver asked him if had signed the petition yet. I guess he felt conflicted not being originally from there, but he said if they do end up separating he would be staying in Alberta. I told him to sign it when he goes back, maybe in the future he can sponsor me as a refugee when the government finds out what I post on the internet.
 
We finally got our first gold medal in the Olympics. Took long enough. If we fail at Hockey it truly is over for us. At least then the government might be forced to actually increase sport expenditure instead of letting the budget get raped by inflation like they have been
 
It’s a lot of fun, actually, you can tell who’s winning out here based on the chill friendly party vibes of the volunteers versus the aggressively masked, overly vaccinated shrillness of the opponents. I think it’s a bit of a shock for the CBC watchers out here, who were told all their neighbours agreed with them and there are barely any separatists at all.
Media reporting (including social) has been hilarious in this regard too. Quite a few Calgarians are apparently shocked at seeing the degree of separatist support in Okotoks and Airdrie (if Calgary Herald/Sun comments are anything to go by), and then you have the Reddit progs in r/Calgary and r/Edmonton dumbfounded how there's lineups at various signing events within their city boundaries. Always fun seeing how these people don't understand a ~30% polled support for independence means you will always come across supporters - that's 1.5 million people after all.

What I hope to see as well is this petition exceed Lukaszuk's collected signature count. If that happens the coping, seething, and mental gymnastics will provide the first sustainable form of renewable energy in western Canada.
 
Media reporting (including social) has been hilarious in this regard too. Quite a few Calgarians are apparently shocked at seeing the degree of separatist support in Okotoks and Airdrie (if Calgary Herald/Sun comments are anything to go by), and then you have the Reddit progs in r/Calgary and r/Edmonton dumbfounded how there's lineups at various signing events within their city boundaries. Always fun seeing how these people don't understand a ~30% polled support for independence means you will always come across supporters - that's 1.5 million people after all.

What I hope to see as well is this petition exceed Lukaszuk's collected signature count. If that happens the coping, seething, and mental gymnastics will provide the first sustainable form of renewable energy in western Canada.
The threshold is 10% of registered voters or 177,732, if polled support is 30% they could easily get triple that - possibly more if the polls are skewed to downplay support, and as awareness spreads and people understand better what separatism looks like they might be more inclined to support it. I would love to see 50% of registered voters as then the actual referendum would be purely ceremonial and the salt would be legendary.
 
Enbridge has come out and publicly said that they will not be building any more pipelines in Canada due to "reasons". IE: the Liberal government has made it impossible to get any completed profitably. Or at all. They have no trust in any Federal agreement nor do they want to invest in a project that could be cancelled at anytime even after completion,

So any dreams of a Liberal supported gas pipeline to the BC ports was exactly that...a dream.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/bus...ridge-ceo-greg-ebel-alberta-pipeline-project/
 
Enbridge has come out and publicly said that they will not be building any more pipelines in Canada due to "reasons". IE: the Liberal government has made it impossible to get any completed profitably. Or at all. They have no trust in any Federal agreement nor do they want to invest in a project that could be cancelled at anytime even after completion,

So any dreams of a Liberal supported gas pipeline to the BC ports was exactly that...a dream.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/bus...ridge-ceo-greg-ebel-alberta-pipeline-project/
frankly i'm surprised anyone seriously thought it would happen. how many times has a major pipeline been cancelled? And with BC just giving land and towns to the natives who would ever make such a large investment over land that could be stolen returned after they spent so much money on it?
Some AI generated facts:
Enbridge CEO Greg Ebel has stated the company will not take on the development risk of a proposed new oil pipeline from Alberta to British Columbia’s West Coast, despite being asked by the Alberta government to provide technical and regulatory expertise.

Ebel cited the cancellation of the Northern Gateway pipeline in 2016—after Enbridge invested approximately $600 million—as a key reason. He described the experience as having the "rug pulled out from underneath us," emphasizing that the company is unwilling to absorb the financial and political uncertainty that could derail a major infrastructure project before final approval.

While Enbridge is open to assuming construction risk once a project receives full regulatory approval, it will not fund or lead the development phase due to the high risk of delays, regulatory hurdles, and shifting political landscapes.

The company remains focused on other growth opportunities, including $14 billion in projects completed in 2025 and expected final investment decisions on $10–20 billion in new projects over the next 24 months, such as pipeline expansions, natural gas infrastructure, and renewable energy for data centres.
The Northern Gateway pipeline was officially cancelled in November 2016 by the federal government under Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, following a series of legal and political developments.

  • In June 2016, the Federal Court of Appeal overturned the project’s approval, ruling that the federal government had failed to conduct adequate consultation with Indigenous communities affected by the pipeline.
  • The court’s decision required a re-do of Indigenous consultations, which would have taken only four months to complete.
  • Despite this, the Trudeau government announced in November 2016 that it would not proceed with the project, declaring it “not in the public interest,” even though over 80% of Indigenous groups along the route supported it.
  • The cancellation came after the government had already imposed a moratorium on crude oil tanker traffic along British Columbia’s northern coast in 2015, effectively making the project unviable.
  • Enbridge, the project’s proponent, had spent over $500 million on regulatory and planning processes, and later received a $14.7 million refund of regulatory fees paid to the National Energy Board.
The decision was criticized by many Indigenous leaders and economic advocates, who viewed it as a political move rather than a decision based on regulatory or environmental grounds. The project, which aimed to transport 525,000 barrels per day of diluted bitumen from Alberta to Kitimat, B.C., for export to Asian markets, remains cancelled and has not been revived, despite renewed interest in 2025 due to U.S. tariff threats. Enbridge has not expressed interest in reviving the project.
 
Enbridge has come out and publicly said that they will not be building any more pipelines in Canada due to "reasons". IE: the Liberal government has made it impossible to get any completed profitably. Or at all. They have no trust in any Federal agreement nor do they want to invest in a project that could be cancelled at anytime even after completion,

So any dreams of a Liberal supported gas pipeline to the BC ports was exactly that...a dream.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/bus...ridge-ceo-greg-ebel-alberta-pipeline-project/
On the bright side, there goes Chinese interest in Canada, and any possible future where the US has to Monroe doctrine Canada.
 
On the bright side, there goes Chinese interest in Canada, and any possible future where the US has to Monroe doctrine Canada.
I'd love to be in the room when Carney has to explain to President Xi that he cannot give him Canadian gas because of how inept their government is that businesses simply refuse to trust that they will not cancel very expensive investments. With how China can pull off any major infrastructure project even if means demolishing an entire town they must thing we are a bunch of bumbling idiots.
 
I'd love to be in the room when Carney has to explain to President Xi that he cannot give him Canadian gas because of how inept their government is that businesses simply refuse to trust that they will not cancel very expensive investments. With how China can pull off any major infrastructure project even if means demolishing an entire town they must thing we are a bunch of bumbling idiots.

I also wonder if the opposition protestors to pipelines will actually try to stop the Chinese from building it, as if they were the Hong Kong protestors fighting for their freedom. Or have the activist protestors that try to stop infrastructure projects have also become apathetic?
 
I also wonder if the opposition protestors to pipelines will actually try to stop the Chinese from building it, as if they were the Hong Kong protestors fighting for their freedom. Or have the activist protestors that try to stop infrastructure projects have also become apathetic?
Green movements are always like watermelons. Green on the outside, red on the inside. You will never see any of those types protesting or denouncing the environmental abuses of marxists regimes, only capitalist ones.
 
Green movements are always like watermelons. Green on the outside, red on the inside. You will never see any of those types protesting or denouncing the environmental abuses of marxists regimes, only capitalist ones.
Somehow I don't think they will be properly controlled. The natives will still demand the land and the green activists will still fight it, then go off the rails when the judges don't give them what they want and gum up the works. It'll be hard to do a 180 after setting a precedent that any native could claim the land the pipeline is on by saying their great- great- great- great- great- grandfather once took a crap on that land.
 
I also wonder if the opposition protestors to pipelines will actually try to stop the Chinese from building it, as if they were the Hong Kong protestors fighting for their freedom. Or have the activist protestors that try to stop infrastructure projects have also become apathetic?

If their CCP masters want the pipeline then they will get a pipeline.

Right now it's not part of the plan, it was after all just a PR stunt to try to de-fang the Alberta Freedom movement, but should their masters want to get gas to the coast the Feds will make it happen.

Remember that bill that Carney passed that allows Ottawa to override any local or provincial rules to complete a project that was deem "nationally important"? There was a reason that it was passed so fast. All these new laws have a purpose and when you add them all up it's pretty damn clear what the future holds.

For fucks sake everyone has already forgotten the bill the Liberals passed to make government minister above the law. It's like it never happened to most folks, this is why I despair. Mere moments after a big event everyone forgets and goes back to business as usual. Our Ministers are not beholdn to our laws and people are like...yah and? So what? They've always been like that now it just official. I makes me want to cry and it's why I say Canadians deserve everything coming to them.

If the Liberal elites suddenly want a pipeline from the East to the West coast is will happen quickly and with little trouble. Any chugs getting in the way will get thumped and shit will get done. When their masters call the Liberal's jump and suddenly the RCMP has the ability to arrest protesters and chugs. The law means nothing, they have no ethical standards, they only care about money and power and will do what they need to get both.

Always keep in mind while they act and look stupid they are not. They do plan, they do have an agenda and they will enforce it on you. Just because they look and act like clowns doesn't mean they are. They're carefully setting up Canada for the next stage of government.

Neo-feudalism.
 
Remember that bill that Carney passed that allows Ottawa to override any local or provincial rules to complete a project that was deem "nationally important"? There was a reason that it was passed so fast. All these new laws have a purpose and when you add them all up it's pretty damn clear what the future holds
That thing is a double edged sword. Sure they can force through government projects but they can still cancel them at a whim as they have already threw the legal framework into chaos. The Liberal government simply cannot be trusted and Enbridge will not trust them unless the government pays them in advanced to build the pipeline and Enbridge has some ireon clad guarantees that they won't be left holding the bag again when the government goes "lol nah changed my mind". Temporarily suspending provincial and local laws and rules just means those rules may suddenly reapply at an inconvenient time. What happens when the pipeline is almost complete and the government suddenly decides it's no longer nationally important? Now Enbridge would be stuck resolving the legal quagmire of all those laws and rules that were ignored.

This government has no credibility, and a government with no credibility cannot be trusted with any project that takes more then an election cycle to complete.
 
I also wonder if the opposition protestors to pipelines will actually try to stop the Chinese from building it, as if they were the Hong Kong protestors fighting for their freedom. Or have the activist protestors that try to stop infrastructure projects have also become apathetic?
Nope, a large amount of Canadian loves and I mean LOVES China and the CCP, especially leftist types. I've seen clips of Canadians who get mad whenever someone criticizes or makes fun of the CCP. Like I could easily tell by their expression and tone that they genuinely took the criticism towards the Chinese government personally. The CCP probably has more support in Canada than in China itself at this point.
If their CCP masters want the pipeline then they will get a pipeline.
If that happens, I don't know what's sadder, Canada only getting a Pacific pipeline because our chink masters demanded it, or the CCP having to rely on the Canadian government.
I'd love to be in the room when Carney has to explain to President Xi that he cannot give him Canadian gas because of how inept their government is that businesses simply refuse to trust that they will not cancel very expensive investments. With how China can pull off any major infrastructure project even if means demolishing an entire town they must thing we are a bunch of bumbling idiots.
China will definitely get buyer's remorse if they end up desperate enough to rely on Canada.
 
If the Liberal elites suddenly want a pipeline from the East to the West coast is will happen quickly and with little trouble. Any chugs getting in the way will get thumped and shit will get done. When their masters call the Liberal's jump and suddenly the RCMP has the ability to arrest protesters and chugs. The law means nothing, they have no ethical standards, they only care about money and power and will do what they need to get both.

Always keep in mind while they act and look stupid they are not. They do plan, they do have an agenda and they will enforce it on you. Just because they look and act like clowns doesn't mean they are. They're carefully setting up Canada for the next stage of government.

Neo-feudalism.
Libniggers really think their technocratic overlords wont turn the security apparatus that they have used against the right for the past 15 years on them in the blink of an eye. I personally cant wait for them to find out.
 
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