Carson King / CallMeCarson / CallMeCarsonYT - Minecraft YouTuber, trades nudes with underage fans

[Dendrocnide]

When I first heard about this controversy, I thought it was a hoax, but looking further into it, this Carson guy is really fucked up.

I'm on the edge of my seat waiting for Carson's response honestly. How much worse can it get. Even though, this will take months [or even more than a year] to actually see anything come out of it, shit hasn't happened to the Smash Community predators like Cinnpie or other YouTubers in a similar situation.

 

[Doppio Vinegar]

About the pregnancy game, I'll chime in with what I remember about it. I think I've seen it reviewed by some fat neckbeard I randomly stumbled upon, and the game's less about sex and more about the topic of abortion and how the protagonist handles the situation, with two endings being she gets the abortion or not.

I could be wrong, though, and this could be an entirely different game. They looked pretty similar.

I watched a playthrough back in the day by a YouTuber named "Kubz Scouts." You're correct. There's no graphic scenes of rape, it's just a quick explanation of what led up to it and then it gets into the actual game. You have to convince the girl to either get an abortion or keep the baby, and at the very end, it pulls a twist and she'll do the exact opposite of whatever you encouraged her to do.

That said, there's only two endings, so the only reason I could see there being 100 hours invested in that game is if, like someone said earlier in the thread, he replaced the game's files with an emulator as a gag on his friends. Not even the most sexually deviant maniac would choose to spend 100 hours on a visual novel with no visual depictions of rape, pregnancy, or the ilk. (If I remember correctly, there aren't even any portraits of characters, just shadows.)

 

[Bad Egg]

The fact that no one knows what the severity of shit is in the situation really shows how much places like twitter have ruined the impact of the terms pedophile and grooming. 17/19 isn't pedophilic and him going to someone with clearly sexual intentions in DMs and them giving into it is not grooming. The way the term grooming specifically has been made to feel like a joke is kind of fucked because it downplays real situations where someone was actually groomed.
You can have an uncomfortable or manipulative sexual experience with someone and not have it be grooming. “Grooming is the slow, methodical, and intentional process of manipulating a person to a point where they can be victimized,” which doesn't sound like what's happening here.

It's hinted that there's more behind the curtains than what has been unveiled so far of the situation and yet from most of the shit we have seen evidence of it hasn't seemed too bad besides some generic young n new to e-fame creepiness and less than savory reactions from those who have seen more than what we have. But no one is focusing on the latter part's implications, making it seem like a big joke. Especially the steam game shit. If you look at stuff like his past Minecraft names then him making it seem like he spent forever playing a short weird creepy game just to be edgy seems like it'd be in character for how he acted before he got 'big'.
People should be waiting for more info but people have brainworms. Shouldn't their crowd have learned after the Slazo incident?

 

[Dave.]

The fact that no one knows what the severity of shit is in the situation really shows how much places like twitter have ruined the impact of the terms pedophile and grooming. 17/19 isn't pedophilic and him going to someone with clearly sexual intentions in DMs and them giving into it is not grooming. The way the term grooming specifically has been made to feel like a joke is kind of fucked because it downplays real situations where someone was actually groomed.
You can have an uncomfortable or manipulative sexual experience with someone and not have it be grooming. “Grooming is the slow, methodical, and intentional process of manipulating a person to a point where they can be victimized,” which doesn't sound like what's happening here.

It's hinted that there's more behind the curtains than what has been unveiled so far of the situation and yet from most of the shit we have seen evidence of it hasn't seemed too bad besides some generic young n new to e-fame creepiness and less than savory reactions from those who have seen more than what we have. But no one is focusing on the latter part's implications, making it seem like a big joke. Especially the steam game shit. If you look at stuff like his past Minecraft names then him making it seem like he spent forever playing a short weird creepy game just to be edgy seems like it'd be in character for how he acted before he got 'big'.
People should be waiting for more info but people have brainworms. Shouldn't their crowd have learned after the Slazo incident?

This whole situation kind of got me thinking; when is the cut off age for not just consent, but responsibility? Granted I'm a male so I don't know nor can I comment on what goes through a women's mind, but at 16 going on 17 I had a good feeling that there's something off about a grown up acting strange around me. At what point do we hold 'victims' in this situation accountable to their actions as well when they've been given many opportunities to walk away or report someone? I know this sounds super insensitive, but there's a point where severity and action are two separate things and we can't let people just bank on the latter to get their way. (Not implying that this woman did that, but she was, in my opinion, old enough to know that behavior was not okay)

 

[Bad Egg]

This whole situation kind of got me thinking; when is the cut off age for not just consent, but responsibility? Granted I'm a male so I don't know nor can I comment on what goes through a women's mind, but at 16 going on 17 I had a good feeling that there's something off about a grown up acting strange around me. At what point do we hold 'victims' in this situation accountable to their actions as well when they've been given many opportunities to walk away or report someone? I know this sounds super insensitive, but there's a point where severity and action are two separate things and we can't let people just bank on the latter to get their way. (Not implying that this woman did that, but she was, in my opinion, old enough to know that behavior was not okay)

it depends on the person and situation i think. If it's something mutual or that they enjoyed at the time but deeply regret later because it was something unsavory, that's on them unfortunately and they have to live with it. But there are more severe situations, like actual grooming, which takes time and can shatter a person when it gets bad due to trust. Chances are, if there isn't long-term logs or whatever it's more of a bad past sexual experience that they think is grooming or something. It's unfortunately a slippery slope though and there's always faked proof.

 

[Purin Chan]

Thank you sincerely for being a ray of sanity and decency in a thread full of people just trying to excuse a celebrity for doing something they'd condemn in a heartbeat if he was less popular.

No they wouldn't, the only people in this thread who are saying that Carson abused his power are saying so not because of the age difference, but because he's a famous guy exchanging nudes with a fan.
If Carson was less famous or not famous at all nobody would care whether or not he sexted someone two years younger than him as a 19 year old.

 

[Sanshain]

No they wouldn't, the only people in this thread who are saying that Carson abused his power are saying so not because of the age difference, but because he's a famous guy exchanging nudes with a fan.
If Carson was less famous or not famous at all nobody would care whether or not he sexted someone two years younger than him as a 19 year old.

Which just makes it even sadder that some people view this kind of behavior as normal or acceptable. Disgusting.

 

[Purin Chan]

Which just makes it even sadder that some people view this kind of behavior as normal or acceptable. Disgusting.

How exactly is a 19 year old being with a 17 year old disgusting in any way? I can see why someone would view the celebrity-fan dynamic as an abuse of power but if Carson wasn't famous then there would be no problem with an age difference like that.

 

[Overcooked Raccoon]

With the advent of streamers,youtubers, and online celebs rising I expect this to be seen as much more of the norm. They're already used to online activity so going into DM's with fans is just natural to them. People get horny, people want to get off, and sadly they think with their dick over using their brain ignoring the consequences.

Fact is with Cancel Culture still being weaponized, big creators like Carson have a double edged sword. They can and will be called out for this shit, but will also have their own "stans" to defend them and it'll be clashing until it dies out whether that be through the truth or people losing interest. Which sadly will just be forgotten (in the best case for him)except by the scorned fans while they continue to be successful if they survive the movement and will be kept on record for forums here to give people a reminder that they did some shady shit.

Bottom line is this shit is happening way more often than expected and I think a big part of that now is honestly Covid. People being glued to their homes for quarantine, and staying away from people in general lets their minds wander and look into things they normally wouldn't care about prior. More online exposure for streamers and creators leads to things like this, people wanting to cancel others or just gaping for attention.

 

[Vaping Autist]

Lol pandemic, lol internet celebrity, lol cancel for fame

 

[Sanshain]

How exactly is a 19 year old being with a 17 year old disgusting in any way? I can see why someone would view the celebrity-fan dynamic as an abuse of power but if Carson wasn't famous then there would be no problem with an age difference like that.

One is a minor, one is not. It's that simple. Why is this even a question?

 

[Purin Chan]

One is a minor, one is not. It's that simple. Why is this even a question?

Because it's not as black and white as you're making it out be considering they're two years apart. Carson would be as much of stupid teenager at the time as Sam was.
Honestly, this whole drama is kinda blown out of proportion and really shows that people need to go outside more.

 

[Sanshain]

Because it's not as black and white as you're making it out be considering they're two years apart. Carson would be as much of stupid teenager at the time as Sam was.
Honestly, this whole drama is kinda blown out of proportion and really shows that people need to go outside more.

No, it's black and white. You don't just 'accidentally' engage in sexual behavior with a minor. Carson had every opportunity not to do what he did, but chose to do it anyway. In this day and age especially, there is zero excuse for deliberately engaging in erotic conversation or other sexual activities with a minor. Stick your ass on a crappy dating app, advertise yourself as single on social media, walk around with a sign stating your sexual preferences in public, you'll find somebody your own age eventually. You don't go after a child unless you want to, and when you do, you're telling the world that you don't care about decency, you just care about taking something society has forbidden you.

If he had simply had a friendship with her and waited until she was of age to engage in romantic behavior, cool. But this wasn't the case. He knowingly and intentionally sought the sexual attention of a minor. It's not up for debate. He admitted it. Fuck everyone who thinks this was in any way acceptable. You disgust me.

 

[Max Doof]

This whole situation kind of got me thinking; when is the cut off age for not just consent, but responsibility? Granted I'm a male so I don't know nor can I comment on what goes through a women's mind, but at 16 going on 17 I had a good feeling that there's something off about a grown up acting strange around me. At what point do we hold 'victims' in this situation accountable to their actions as well when they've been given many opportunities to walk away or report someone? I know this sounds super insensitive, but there's a point where severity and action are two separate things and we can't let people just bank on the latter to get their way. (Not implying that this woman did that, but she was, in my opinion, old enough to know that behavior was not okay)

A question scholars have asked for years.

 

[MeltyTW]

People should be waiting for more info but people have brainworms. Shouldn't their crowd have learned after the Slazo incident?

Theyre of the same ilk that think you can change cultures in the current year overnight by yelling at it instead of negotiating with it and leading it, theyll keep calling anyone in any sexual situation they dont like a pedophile groomer rapist terrorist until the mythical time when society caves into their demands.

No, it's black and white. You don't just 'accidentally' engage in sexual behavior with a minor.

Thats why its so common many states have laws specifically addressing small age gaps of less than 3-4 years. Aoc of 18 is a good barrier to protect people from unbalanced and harmful relationships imo and i dislike any place having it lower than that but grabbing pitchforks and pulling the pedo card because a 19 year old wanted a bootycall from someone who would have been a sophomore when they were a senior is retarded. i mean what? if he wants sex before midnight his birthday hes golden but a minute later hes a child molester?

 

[Autism Harbinger]

Yeah, it's black and white. He is guilty of nothing when it comes to sexting. Such small gap is within law. He could go and have sex with her just fine.
The only issue potentially would be her nudes, but that's stretching it.
CP is prosecuted to protect actual children from being abused, not thirsty teenagers sending their nudes.

 

[Sanshain]

Thats why its so common many states have laws specifically addressing small age gaps of less than 3-4 years. Aoc of 18 is a good barrier to protect people from unbalanced and harmful relationships imo and i dislike any place having it lower than that but grabbing pitchforks and pulling the pedo card because a 19 year old wanted a bootycall from someone who would have been a sophomore when they were a senior is retarded. i mean what? if he wants sex before midnight his birthday hes golden but a minute later hes a child molester?

We've had this argument on the farms well over a thousand times before. It's a slippery slope. Society has agreed on that number collectively, and you can't question it because the moment you make any exception for any reason no matter how seemingly justified, you open the floodgates for every vile, filthy degenerate to cling onto the precedent you just set and bawl about how their case is totally the same as the one guy you let off the hook. Maybe you could run a set of hyper-detailed and advanced behavioral experiments to conclusively prove that X percentage of 17-year-olds are mentally mature enough to consent to sex with an adult, but it still wouldn't matter, because that isn't what the argument is actually about.

Carson was aware of all this. Nobody in today's society with the slightest amount of critical thinking ability is unaware of this principle. If you lack the self control to avoid this very, very, very well signposted and adequately fenced off forbidden fruit, you don't deserve to be given the benefit of the doubt.

 

[Clean your doorknobs]

I'm on the edge of my seat waiting for Carson's response honestly. How much worse can it get. Even though, this will take months [or even more than a year] to actually see anything come out of it, shit hasn't happened to the Smash Community predators like Cinnpie or other YouTubers in a similar situation.

Judging by his silence, I’d say he’s dead or checked into a psych ward.

 

[Purin Chan]

No, it's black and white. You don't just 'accidentally' engage in sexual behavior with a minor. Carson had every opportunity not to do what he did, but chose to do it anyway. In this day and age especially, there is zero excuse for deliberately engaging in erotic conversation or other sexual activities with a minor. Stick your ass on a crappy dating app, advertise yourself as single on social media, walk around with a sign stating your sexual preferences in public, you'll find somebody your own age eventually. You don't go after a child unless you want to, and when you do, you're telling the world that you don't care about decency, you just care about taking something society has forbidden you.

If he had simply had a friendship with her and waited until she was of age to engage in romantic behavior, cool. But this wasn't the case. He knowingly and intentionally sought the sexual attention of a minor. It's not up for debate. He admitted it. Fuck everyone who thinks this was in any way acceptable. You disgust me.

We've had this argument on the farms well over a thousand times before. It's a slippery slope. Society has agreed on that number collectively, and you can't question it because the moment you make any exception for any reason no matter how seemingly justified, you open the floodgates for every vile, filthy degenerate to cling onto the precedent you just set and bawl about how their case is totally the same as the one guy you let off the hook. Maybe you could run a set of hyper-detailed and advanced behavioral experiments to conclusively prove that X percentage of 17-year-olds are mentally mature enough to consent to sex with an adult, but it still wouldn't matter, because that isn't what the argument is actually about.

Carson was aware of all this. Nobody in today's society with the slightest amount of critical thinking ability is unaware of this principle. If you lack the self control to avoid this very, very, very well signposted and adequately fenced off forbidden fruit, you don't deserve to be given the benefit of the doubt.

Thank god reactionary people like you don't make the laws otherwise we'd be arresting 18 year olds for being intimate with their 17 year old partner (and other complete nothing burger situations).

 

[Serbian Peacekeepers]

Judging by his silence, I’d say he’s dead or checked into a psych ward.

He said in the leaked discord stuff that he already had response planned , he's probably waiting for more voices on his side to break through prior to making a statement