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The Nick Jr. reference really kicks it in high gear for me.

Sometimes i wonder how different (better) everything would be, if it wasn't for MLP Friendship is Magic

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That damn cartoon pretty much normalized the idea of 30-year old men obsessing over media meant for kids.

I know it's Spongebob and any resemblance of biological fact went out of the window with the very basic premise of a kitchen sponge being the main character, but the idea of a starfish getting bits lopped off is just... the mind boggles.

Also, it implies there are two more Patricks going around, grown out of his lopped-off moobs. Squidward on suicide watch.

Like a troon version of The Bikini Bottom Horror.
 
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Sometimes i wonder how different (better) everything would be, if it wasn't for MLP Friendship is Magic

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That damn cartoon pretty much normalized the idea of 30-year old men obsessing over media meant for kids.



Like a troon version of The Bikini Bottom Horror.
I call bull shit on those guys not being pedophiles or zoophiles. After all, male feminist cucks are the biggest sexual deviants in existence, no matter how much they deny it.

Also, am I the only one who thinks media marketed to teens, children and toddlers, have THE WORST FANDOMS ever? Even R-rated media nor mature rated media fandoms are not this creepy and toxic. Not anymore anyways.
 
I call bull shit on those guys not being pedophiles or zoophiles. After all, male feminist cucks are the biggest sexual deviants in existence, no matter how much they deny it.

Also, am I the only one who thinks media marketed to teens, children and toddlers, have THE WORST FANDOMS ever? Even R-rated media nor mature rated media fandoms are not this creepy and toxic. Not anymore anyways.
I mean, several of the "Pony YouTubers" where outed as sex pasts. Brony Conventions where infamous for being gatherings of the most autistic (and I mean actually autistic in a medical sense) people imaginable.

Not to mention that the influx of Pont Porn was so huge that furry porn image sites had to pan the upload of it do to just how much they where making.
 
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This is five months ago but I don't think anyone's really pointed it out. See, when I look at those three separate screenshots of three separate cartoons side-by-side, I just feel nothing but apathy and don't give a shit that a lot of cartoons are getting canceled. There's just nothing separating them from each other in terms of look and style. Why should I care when mediocrity gets the boot?
 
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This is five months ago but I don't think anyone's really pointed it out. See, when I look at those three separate screenshots of three separate cartoons side-by-side, I just feel nothing but apathy and don't give a shit that a lot of cartoons are getting canceled. There's just nothing separating them from each other in terms of look and style. Why should I care when mediocrity gets the boot?
To be fair, despite the round art styles, Infinity Train and Close Enough are actually decent shows and shouldn't be categorized with the other slop listed. Infinity Train especially because the characters were surprisingly well written and made the audience empathetic towards them. (Excluding the 4th Season, which was queer bait.)
Crossposting this from the Disney thread.
So they're not even hiding it now?
Like, cool idea execution but that kind of tranny stuff just seems like child abuse to me. Makes me wonder if the kid was out to their parent(s) and they just don't care enough to deal with it, or if s(he) is lying to everyone and hasn't told anyone their true gender. (Which is another level of fucked up.)

Also can we just talk about why there is even a bathroom scene in the first place? Like, hold up; why should this even be a scene? Other than the shemale having a voice crack, what's the point of it? Why do they run away from the, clearly confused, child like they're a perv?? Who is planting these thoughts into this child's head? (That's a rhetorical question.)

Really bad timing to show trannies in sports atm considering all the injuries shemales having been giving biological females.

They might be setting Daphne up to be an antagonist for the early season. Considering that in the trailer a supposed image of her with a younger Velma has her eyes X'd out.
I don't really care enough to watch it when it comes out though. Probably just skim through interesting segments of the show via Utube.
Evil Daphne would be an interesting character; for about 15 seconds.
Fucking called it.
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Dear god this show is gonna be such trash. The New York Comic Con Interview with the creators clearly shows these guys have no idea how to write a good origin story. (What did they do to poor poor Fred!?)

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Not even soyboy faggot Darren Franich could like Velma, holy crap.

The Scooby-Doo magic is how something so bland is also so weird. A doofus, a smarty, two boring beauties, and a talking dog drive to dark places in a bright van. Every week they find out a monster is just some guy scaring people away from his farm/family-run circus/defunct zoo/haunted hat factory. You could say the original series backwashed '60s counterculture into the American gothic tradition, with meddling kids easy-riding around ghastly swamp-water olds. C'mon, though, Hanna-Barbera was just having a laugh on a deadline.

Still, Velma dares to ask a big dumb question: What if the Scooby Gang were meta jerks who wanna bone? "This is my origin story," says Velma (voiced by producer Mindy Kaling) at the start of the HBO Max reboot premiering Jan. 12. The series flashes back to the high school prehistory of "the greatest team of spooky mystery solvers ever," when they variously hated or barely acknowledged each other. It's a prequel that re-casts diversely, re-orients sexually, and over-backstories generally. Should be fun, but it's a self-aware slog. Everyone talks like a TV writer who only knows TV writers. The nonstop references are nonstop ancient: Jill Stein, She's All That, the suspicious assertion that Band Geeks Being Weird equals comedy gold. "This is exactly what happened in my vlog about Lil Wayne!" someone says on TV in 2023. Velma is the new bland, a deconstructed canonical bonanza pulled right off the corporate assembly line. It's so extra it's minus.

At Crystal Cove High School, Daphne (Constance Wu) is a popular mean girl orphan who deals drugs because of a dark family secret. Her boyfriend Fred (Glenn Howerton) personifies mediocre white richness. His mansion holds a dark secret — and he has teeny widdle privates, a subject of much conversation. "Shaggy" has become Norville (Sam Richardson), a school-newspaper striver friendzoned by his beloved Velma. He worries he's a beta male; remember that lame humor concept from 20 years ago?

In my possibly foggy recollection, Velma was the only one mentally equipped to actually solve crimes, unless Scooby pratfalled into the Rillain's Recret Readquarters. (For now, this reboot is dogless.) Now Velma is a misfit searching for her disappeared mother and investigating a maniac cutting girls' heads open. She exemplifies Kaling's brainy-thirsty persona, complaining about the patriarchal male gaze in the same episode where she has to subvert her best instincts to beg attractive classmates to "muster all your sexiness and lure everyone away with a sexy dance!"

A savvy kid investigates strange doings in a shadowtown full of family secrets: Sounds like Riverdale for anyone who doesn't remember Veronica Mars. Hot Archie certainly looms over any mature riff on toddler-safe pop culture. In the eight episodes made available from the 10-part debut season, Velma gradually uncovers serialized clues while teen dramedy swirls around. Her onetime bestie Daphne is her high school nemesis, though their dynamic evolves quickly before fading into the background. Some suspects are too suspicious too early. Velma keeps seeing a demonic hallucination, an enigma so nonsensical the show can only make jokes about its nonsensicality.

Some animated reboots honor their foundation by improving it. Think Netflix's She-Ra and the Princesses of Power, which Tolkienized an '80s toyline tie-in into a glittery cosmo-queer every-genre-ever saga. Velma settles for winky nods. "There's no world where I'm ever solving a mystery in an abandoned amusement park," Daphne promises, while Velma wonders, "Who would ever stop to put on a costume in the middle of a chase?" Cheap shots, but hey, some reboots should dumb-shame their predecessors. (Recall how Sealab 2021 used a forgotten Hanna-Barbera borefest as a toilet bowl for brain-bursting absurdity.) But Velma mostly replaces the old silly sensibility with crass name-droppy pointlessness. Adopted by two moms, Daphne declares she was "baptized on the set of Ellen." A eulogy for the latest attractive victim notes how "she was the rare slut that did not deserve to be murdered." Jesus Christ.

Velma is not white, obvs. Nor is she straight, which caused much excitement online. (A key subplot is a bit deflating on that front, though, less "She-Ra and Catra are dancing!" than "Alex kisses Marissa and Seth.") Obviously, anyone upset about these identity shifts is the worst. But beyond the conceptual wow of half-century-old characters suddenly having definable traits, Velma plays out like any other prequel. Learn the secret origin of Velma's glasses. Learn the secret origin of Why Velma Says "Jinkies!" The few fun ideas get buried under referential shenanigans. Sam Richardson nails sweetheart desperation in Norville, though I'm still unconvinced the Shaggy archetype is anything more than "Scoob!!!" screeched loud. Nasty humor can work even when it's a quarter funny — so god help me, I laughed at Fred inviting a potential romantic conquest to Hand Stuff Point. And Daphne's moms are married cops voiced by Jane Lynch and Wanda Sykes. Why can't that be a show, and not some franchise extension's J-plot?

"Normally origin stories are about tall handsome guys struggling with a burden of being handed even more power," Velma narrates. "And if they are about girls, it's usually like: Hey, what made this hot chick go crazy?" Look, male origins are terrible, end them all. But also, rude to Black Widow, Wonder Woman, Captain Marvel, Rey, and most Catwomen. We're nowhere near origin equity, but it's a mark much missed to say female backstories are only Crazy Hotness. I think the joke's main target is a certain clown princess voiced elsewhere on HBO Max by Kaley Cuoco. Harley Quinn is surely Velma's ultraviolent-femslash touchstone, but that great cartoon is crazy with purpose. Batman drowned a while ago in a molten core of self-serious ponderousness wrapped in a candy shell of male grievance. It means something to re-orbit Gotham around funny bisexual supervillain girlfriends. Whereas you get the feeling Kaling and Velma showrunner Charlie Grandy could've wedged any inoffensive IP into their way-too-late parody of teen dramas. In the words of the philosopher: Ruh-roh.
Grade: C
 
I like how often he feels the need to drop an aside about just how much he agrees with the show's politics while ripping on it, lest his readers think that because he didn't like it he's infected with ~the chud~
 
Special throwback tweets from Twitter that I had saved from almost two years ago:

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To be honest, this user has been proven right. The commercialization of animated movies of today has gone over the top so much, that I can’t even recognize what I’m even watching anymore.
 
Sometimes i wonder how different (better) everything would be, if it wasn't for MLP Friendship is Magic
One complaint of the horsefuckers rings true to me: We live in a society trying to normalize new sexual mutilations, faggotry, and other evils, but the guys who like cute horses are still regarded as the oddballs. People come to the defense of the trannies, and faggotry is considered to be normal nowadays, but the horsefuckers are still fine to mock. Why is that?

My guess is trannies obviously create a lot of spending and die early, which has been discussed to death elsewhere. Horsefuckers, however, have no such spending habits with large multinational corporations and are also yucky men attracted to something feminine, which is verboten nowadays.

Also, on the topic, one good thing to be said about the show is, at the very least, it looked different from most everything else. I remember when every cartoon looked different, but no more.

That damn cartoon pretty much normalized the idea of 30-year old men obsessing over media meant for kids.
Did adults not care for Batman: The Animated Series?

To be honest, this user has been proven right.
The first Wreck-It Ralph was good. I was dragged to the second, and it was a giant advertisement wearing the skin of the first, with some mean-spirited feminist man-hating thrown in for no other reason than to insult the audience.
 
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This is five months ago but I don't think anyone's really pointed it out. See, when I look at those three separate screenshots of three separate cartoons side-by-side, I just feel nothing but apathy and don't give a shit that a lot of cartoons are getting canceled. There's just nothing separating them from each other in terms of look and style. Why should I care when mediocrity gets the boot?
Ironically, old cartoons like Hanna Barbera and even classic WB cartoons had styles where a lot of the work looked visually similar. The difference is they gave a crap about putting out a good product.

Also, Velma is getting shredded online and so is Mindy Kaling and it's awesome.
 
This is because there was never even an attempt to make a serious mature animation. It's something piss easy to reverse, really - just make something more mature that isn't "dude weed politics goofy ahh lmao" for 40 year old soyjaks with 70 year old hairlines.

The problem is how corrupt and nepotistic the entire industry is, and how it's tied in to the acting industry.

Why is anime better? Because in Japan someone figured out you can make a much better looking show if you animated it instead of wasting gazillions on live action and special effects. That's literally all there's to it. Star Trek is considered cringy and naive, particularly the old parts. Now imagine if Star Trek was the same, except animated. No dumbing down, no anything.

There, I gave you a blueprint on how to save Western animation. Godspeed!
 
That damn cartoon pretty much normalized the idea of 30-year old men obsessing over media meant for kids.
It wasn't the cartoon but more specifically the creators attitute acknowledging and pandering directly to bronies that made the cancer grow. They must have seen potential for an untapped market disregarding the enormous liability of whitewashing and empowering a bunch of weird 4chan pedos.

There's a reason Nintendo doesn't ackowledge certain fan communities like the competitive Smash scene, they know how bad an idea it is to validate a bunch of unhinged autistic adult men when they are a family friendly company. The MLP participated and empower that scene and Surprise Pikachu, it was a pandora's box of sexual degeneracy and mental illness all along, who could have predicted it.


Special throwback tweets from Twitter that I had saved from almost two years ago:

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To be honest, this user has been proven right. The commercialization of animated movies of today has gone over the top so much, that I can’t even recognize what I’m even watching anymore.
Its been a thing for much longer. "Nerd culture" is a blight for the human race, but largely is about social media affecting how entertainment is marketed, consumed and talked about.


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This is five months ago but I don't think anyone's really pointed it out. See, when I look at those three separate screenshots of three separate cartoons side-by-side, I just feel nothing but apathy and don't give a shit that a lot of cartoons are getting canceled. There's just nothing separating them from each other in terms of look and style. Why should I care when mediocrity gets the boot?
nepotism has brought stagnation and creative bankruptcy. Its good it all burns down so maybe they realize change and cool new ideas from new people is also the best market decision too.
 
It wasn't the cartoon but more specifically the creators attitute acknowledging and pandering directly to bronies that made the cancer grow. They must have seen potential for an untapped market disregarding the enormous liability of whitewashing and empowering a bunch of weird 4chan pedos.
There's actually a lot of conspiracy theories about Hasbro sabotaging things trying to rid themselves of the basement dweller menace before they eventually caved and decided to milk the neckbeards instead.
Shit like the bizarre circumstances of Lauren Faust's departure and budget cuts to fund the dreaded Equestria Girls.
 
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