Cartoon Industry thread - Showcasing the Spergery of the Animation Industry

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In what day and age does any white person say or think natives are "extinct" and only from "ancient history"?
These strawmen are so incredibly wrong that it just feels like they're making up an issue, like if you had a kids show episode dedicated to people who hate people with outie belly-buttons for some reason.
 
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Not this niggas again. Fucking Big Indian shills...

Funny how most Native American mascots are stripped and the other mascots are intact. As my father says about Big Indian; they kick off the Native and keep the land, be it literally or metaphorically.


Nevermind that the BIGGER issues for most Natives in alcoholism, tribe corruption, missing people, etc. Nope, we gotta stop the sports teams from using a mascot that was based on a real Native or was meant to honor them. Ffs I hate Big Indian, it's one of my biggest MATI fixations so sorry for rambling. Its ALWAYS the whitest leftist niggers that speak for grown ass people too, and unironically think all Natives are retarded (Okay, alot are, but that's besides the point)

I like redskin culture yet I fucking hate how its babied and put on a pedestal when they're just as shitty as any other race. They've got bigger problems than art for a sports team that was originally meant to honor them.
 
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Part of me wonders if this has to do with how hard it is to get into the animation industry in the modern age. It makes me think of high-level careers like soccer, ballet, or the orchestra; if your parents didn't get you into it as a toddler, you won't get to be involved in higher grade levels, so you won't get scouted for college, and won't be able to go pro as an adult.
Professional animation seems like one of those kind of careers; you have to have connections, money, and a portfolio all by the time you're 17 and graduate high school, or you're never going to go to one of the big schools, so you'll never work at a big studio, never work on a big project, and never get to become a showrunner yourself.
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To expand on this, the Old Masters like da Vinci and Michaelangelo got to be Masters because they were sent off to artliers (basically Fine Artist Trade School) as early as age 7. Being an artist used to be seen as not only a legit career path, but a skill one had to hone early on to being That Good by the time you were 20.

So yeah, there's definitely some truth to the idea you have to start drawing right out of diapers if you want to Make It.

As for nepotism, I was floored when I found out Claire Hummel's dad worked in animation. Like, no wonder you got such a head start in the industry!
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Kari Kamiya said:
Even if Pan Pizza manages to get Loki IRL finished and picked up, it's still not going to be a good show.
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Nigga had a golden opportunity to have shit ready for the adult swim pitch, Loki IRL is never getting picked up EVER! His videos are highly polished and probably still the best cartoon videos on YouTube but the guy is a total sperg and will never get his shit together to even make a proper pilot episode. He is kind of a sleeper lolcow if you never watched the podcast or knew the lore, I never heard his voice unedited until I recently saw the room tour he did about 10 years ago, he was 25 at the time of that video and his voice is so spergy. He heavily edits his voice in his main channel videos to get rid of the autism inflection and sperg accent of his voice. Also, his wife is a unironic pooner that chopped her tits off so he's sort of gay married now. I highly recommend people watch both the rebel taxi room tour video and the Adult Swim pitch he did during the lockdowns, pure unrestrained autism.
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Who is the target audience of shows like this?
 
Chromeo said:
Part of me wonders if this has to do with how hard it is to get into the animation industry in the modern age. It makes me think of high-level careers like soccer, ballet, or the orchestra; if your parents didn't get you into it as a toddler, you won't get to be involved in higher grade levels, so you won't get scouted for college, and won't be able to go pro as an adult. You basically have to have (your age)+1 years of experience in things like soccer if you ever want the chance to become a professional, and you can't stop even for a minute or someone else will take your place and leave you behind.
Professional animation seems like one of those kind of careers; you have to have connections, money, and a portfolio all by the time you're 17 and graduate high school, or you're never going to go to one of the big schools, so you'll never work at a big studio, never work on a big project, and never get to become a showrunner yourself.
Not to say of course that's the ONLY way to get into any of those professions, there have been outliers, but they're outliers for a reason. So the industry ends up with people who had connections, money, and a portfolio good enough for a big school by the time they were 17, which creates an incestuous pool of people who only care about becoming animators and never did anything else because if they stopped to do anything else, they wouldn't get to become an animator.
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The arts are expensive now.

Music, art, sports, they all cost money now. If you're an average working shmoe living in Nowhere, TX you can't expect your kids to become talented stars by just playing the family piano or throwing a pigskin around the backyard. No, you gotta get lessons. And lessons cost money. Everyone else is training their asses off, so your kids have to as well or else forget about it. Gone are the days when you can be a star just by believing in yourself and trying really hard.

It sucks but that's just the reality of today.
 
KuwabaraTheMan said:
Music, art, sports, they all cost money now. If you're an average working shmoe living in Nowhere, TX you can't expect your kids to become talented stars by just playing the family piano or throwing a pigskin around the backyard. No, you gotta get lessons. And lessons cost money. Everyone else is training their asses off, so your kids have to as well or else forget about it. Gone are the days when you can be a star just by believing in yourself and trying really hard.
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Damn shame, because they may have technical proficiency, but it lacks *soul*.

Many of the movers and shakers of the past—from any discipline— where often not classically trained, or if they were, it was incomplete, and the gaps filled in with self teaching, unconventional learning methods, workarounds to compensate for lack of certain skills, tools, etc.

The arts are poorer for it.
 
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