Casey Chen / Lumin City - “fursuiter” and “videomaker” banned from every furry event across several states for constant autistic stalking

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New text-wall by Lumin where he shills his content. The two links at the end are his rant videos, and the image I cropped out was the thumbnail to the video since it's just his thumbnail with Ron DeSantis and the giant-boob horse fursuit.
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New video as well: (direct link)
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(original video was 1080p, had to mirror this at 720p to fit KF filesize restrictions)

Worth mentioning that Lumin sounds even more muffled than he did in the other videos, though this time it's because he decided to record himself wearing his fursuit head. It just strikes me as odd because most of the video, he's not even on camera.
00:00 “I’ve worn this Fursuit multiple times for the past two weeks. It’s the best Fursuit I’ve ever gotten, but you shouldn’t commission them.”
00:13 Spending a solid minute talking about his fursona and color choices. There’s nothing particularly interesting in this part, he just says he chose a Husky and the green color scheme but doesn’t elaborate on why.
01:15 shit-talks his first choice of artist to make a ref-sheet for him because they weren’t taking commissions at the time. He commissioned someone else off Patreon around December 2022.
01:40 Complained that the tail on the ref sheet obscured part of the design, but didn’t bother bringing this complaint up with the artist.
01:54 Explaining what fursuits are for a solid 30 seconds.
02:25 Found a maker willing to stick within his $2500 budget. Namedrops them and rambles on about every tiny detail about his suit most people probably won’t be interested in, like the color of the interior fleece and how the tongue is removable.
3:37 Maker offered to let Lumin pay in installments (common for most fursuit makers taking on commissions) but Lumin paid in full. Then he rambles about how he measured himself for the suit’s dimensions and accidentally cut up a t-shirt he liked for an entire minute and a half.
05:00 Lumin’s stalking accusations happened in October 2023, at which point the fursuit head was almost done. The maker decided that given the amount of time and money that was already invested, they’d finish the suit but keep Lumin out of their fursuiting chat. Lumin whines that the maker didn’t reach out to him before he was removed.
05:27 “They refused to uphold their six-month repair warranty and shunned me in response. I feel they’ve lied to my face for two months after the ban to use my platform to get a good review out of me.”
05:44 “I’ve since distanced myself from [the maker].” My dude, you name-dropped them about 15 times in the video and shilled them several times, that is the complete opposite of distancing yourself.
05:57 Still got the fursuit regardless, said it was exactly as described, then rambled about how the paws were hard to put on without help. He does include a brief sped-up video of himself putting on the suit, but he blurred out his face.
06:45 Reading random statistics about fursuits for an entire minute
07:42 Ends the video by shilling one of his older videos
A lot of this video is spent talking less about himself, and more about random statistics and facts about fursuits. If this guy's videos are supposed to appeal to furries, does he expect that his audience doesn't know what a fursuit or a reference sheet is? I feel like he could have chopped out a solid 4-5 minutes of this 8-minute video and it still would have had the same impact.

Lumin also seems fixated on the fact that the fursuit maker tried their best to wash their hand of the situation after the stalking accusations became public and won't talk with him anymore. It seems odd he's complaining about it this much when you consider that he got the suit that he paid for, he’s listed zero complaints about the actual suit, and as far as I know, he was only explicitly denied two things: access to the fursuit maker’s chat, and an agreement the maker would do free repairs if he managed to damage it in the first six months he received it.
 
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Given that Lumin is supposedly living at home at the moment, it's kind of surprising to see he managed to get kicked from a "family business". I think it's also worth noting that he didn't specify what the business was, so part of me is wondering if his parents didn't just set him up with some sort of menial work and paid him for it. Either Lumin managed to fuck up remedial tasks enough that they thought he was too much of a liability, or they told him to get an actual job instead of making youtube videos. Honestly, I'm not sure which story is funnier to me.

Anyway, a new video just dropped where he rants about Odin Wolf getting banned off YouTube. He's been pushing these out way faster than I expected, as when I first made the OP, it had been 4+ months between his last couple of videos.
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(original video) I have a local mirror of the video, but I'm having trouble getting it to upload so I'll edit it in here later. Here's the invidious mirror for now:

For those who don't read other AC threads, I'm also the one who wrote up the OP for the Odin Wolf thread, and if you haven't read that, you probably should. I'm mentioning this because since I've personally done prior research on this drama, I'd like to think that I already have a pretty good handle on what happened, and went into this expecting Lumin would be dishonest over what led to the ban. For those who are not familiar with Odin or his ban, check that OP I just linked, but the tldr is that in late 2023, his secondary channel was banned for constantly uploading videos that were too sexual for YouTube. He then made a vlog on his main channel whining about the ban, which resulted in his main channel being banned for "ban evasion". When he appealed to YouTube, he was denied and the ban reason was revised to "sexual content".

With all that out of the way, here's my usual summary and personal thoughts:
00:00 The video starts by discussing Odin's personal history, acknowledging that he was previously recognized for sharing explicit content before transitioning to vlogs. Lumin contends that Odin created his secondary Nido channel in 2020 in response to criticism about uploading adult content under the same name as his main audience. However, SocialBlade indicates that the Nido account has been active since 2018. Odin addressed the adult content issue in a 2018 vlog, disavowing what he got into at the time, but immediately continued uploading suggestive content on the Nido channel.
01:03 Talking about the Nido ban. Tries to argue that the Nido Flow videos weren’t inappropriate because there technically wasn’t any IRL nudity in them. Doesn’t make any mention of Nido’s videos involving sex toys or suggestive thumbnails. As a reminder, here’s an archived copy of Nido’s YT page pre-ban. Lumin is seriously trying to argue there was nothing wrong with these videos:
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01:30 “It’s not if clear YouTube specifically targeted Nido Flow for being an LGBTQ+ Furry” I mean I’m pretty sure they banned him because he was repeatedly uploading videos where he holding up furry dildos in the thumbnails. But no, it must be because he was a gay furry, only explanation.
01:45 Whining about how Odin’s main channel was banned first for “ban evasion”, then for “sexual content”. Then reads off his SocialBlade stats for a while.
02:40 “This isn’t the first time YouTube has targeted Furry Creators.” He gives zero other examples.
02:58 Immediate segway into the drama over SSSniperwolf showing up outside of Jacksfilms house to intimidate him. Rambles for an entire minute and doesn’t relate this to Odin in any way.
03:45 “I’ve been a target of YouTube’s biased moderation policies. In 2022 I got a Community Guidelines warning for an NSFW link in the description of a private video meant as a citation.” That’s not a biased moderation, that’s you getting in trouble for your own poor judgment.
04:02 Rambling about YouTube adpocalypse and random YouTube statistics. I’m pretty sure he’s reading off someone else’s article for this part.
06:08 Brings up one of Odin’s videos getting DMCA’d by an artist for using their art without permission. Shoves all of the blame on the artist for having a problem with their art being stolen.
06:23 Furries only get bullied because of that CSI episode in the 2000’s
06:42 Blames the 2014 MFF chlorine attack on anti-LGBTQ+ hate. No idea what this has to do with Odin getting banned from YouTube.
07:33 “I like many others want to prove that Furry YouTube isn’t dead, but merely hibernating.” He then claims that furries on YouTube are prosecuted people without a shred of irony.
07:49 “This is why I started my channel in May 2021. I’m planning to make the same impact as the first big Furry YouTubers did six years ago.”

Knowing Lumin, I went into the video expecting he'd blame something on "lgbtq hate", derail into a few completely unrelated incidents that have nothing to do with Odin, then insert himself into the drama somehow. Turns out... I was mostly correct.
After watching several of his videos now, Lumin seems to have a recurring issue where he’ll try to drum up sympathy by bringing up an unfortunate incident, but then not bother to connect it to whatever he’s talking about. The most impressive part is that this time, he’s also trying to shrug off responsibility for something he did himself, which in this case was posting NSFW links in the description of a video (which earned him a community strike).

Also, Lumin's claims about being persecuted are genuinely funny to me. He doesn’t seem to grasp that unlike actual minorities who are born into a certain ethnicity they had no control over, furries enter into this stuff willingly and of their own volition.


EDIT/UPDATE: Just so I avoid double-posting: lol at the feedback
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Lumin is blatantly lying about there not being any proof that Odin interacted with borderline child porn on IB (inkbunny). I already put the very thorough document in Odin's OP, but I'm going to link to it right here. And here's the archive of Odin's Twitter where he outright admitted he was looking it up, while we're at it.
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New text wall from Lumin just dropped as well. Notably, he reveals an unspecified convention pre-banned him, but confusingly states he can still attend. So I guess he got banned from just their chat? Based on talking about how the chairman resigned recently, Lumin might be talking about Garden State Fur the Weekend. I just wrote up a post about it here in the Convention Drama thread.
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This is the only comment. The guy's grammar is horrible but he makes a good point:
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This guy has one of the worse cases of mushmouth I've ever heard. Slow the fuck down and actually enunciate your words instead of breathlessly droning into the mic, my ninja.
The most impressive and weirdest part about his narration is that while he's damn near impossible to understand when he's talking, he somehow simultaneously has the perfect inflexion for YouTube to generate nearly flawless auto-generated subtitles. I've never seen anything like it before.
 
Lumin's currently gravedancing on Ruben Sim getting banned from Twitter. The cope from Lumin on this one is insane, he's literally just calling everyone nazis.

Nothing I could say would make this cope any funnier, so I'll shut up and let you guys read this one without my commentary:
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Ruben Sim has been banned from Twitter, a rarity on the platform overrun by fascists since Elon Musk’s hostile takeover of the platform. They’re a controversial Roblox YouTuber best known for criticizing Roblox’s lack of moderation against NSFW on their platform. However, they’re also known for advocating for the genocide of Furries and stereotyping the fandom as “z**philes”, “gr**mers”, and “p*rn addicts”.

I strongly condemn Ruben Sim’s fascist rhetoric and gross overgeneralization of the Fandom. However, their work exposing Roblox’s lack of moderation on their platform filled with mostly kids under 13 shouldn’t be ignored. I hope Ruben Sim sees this as a wake-up call. They should drop their bigotry against Furries to focus on going after the true enemy of Roblox as a company for their failure to protect children on their platform.

For more info on Ruben Sim: (KF mirror of video)
 
Lumin's currently gravedancing on Ruben Sim getting banned from Twitter. The cope from Lumin on this one is insane, he's literally just calling everyone nazis.

Nothing I could say would make this cope any funnier, so I'll shut up and let you guys read this one without my commentary:
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Ruben Sim has been banned from Twitter, a rarity on the platform overrun by fascists since Elon Musk’s hostile takeover of the platform. They’re a controversial Roblox YouTuber best known for criticizing Roblox’s lack of moderation against NSFW on their platform. However, they’re also known for advocating for the genocide of Furries and stereotyping the fandom as “z**philes”, “gr**mers”, and “p*rn addicts”.

I strongly condemn Ruben Sim’s fascist rhetoric and gross overgeneralization of the Fandom. However, their work exposing Roblox’s lack of moderation on their platform filled with mostly kids under 13 shouldn’t be ignored. I hope Ruben Sim sees this as a wake-up call. They should drop their bigotry against Furries to focus on going after the true enemy of Roblox as a company for their failure to protect children on their platform.

For more info on Ruben Sim: (KF mirror of video)
"YOU AREN'T SUPPOSED TO POINT OUT ALL THE HORRIFIC DEGENERACY IN THE FURRY FANDOM BECAUSE... ERM... BECAUSE IT'S GENOCIDAL FASCIST RHETORIC, OKAY!?"
What an absolute lunatic.
 
Lumin declares someone is doing "unauthorized" interviews at Anthro New England and everyone should distance themselves.
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So Lumin has a problem with people running around and interviewing people without press badges. I'm sure Lumin would never do something like that himself, oh wait:

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(I'm not bothering to archive this video, it's just Lumin walking around asking easy questions to random people at a pride festival.

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Did Lumin get banned? I Guess we'll find out for sure in a day or two.
 
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Hey, yall I just wanted to spill some tea in regards to Lumin. (For the sake of privacy I am keeping everyone evolved besides Lumin anonymous)
So for context, I'm someone who isn't a furry but I've been joining local discord servers within my region to find a community in which I can participate. I joined a furry-related discord server that hosted in-person events where around my area and the server had Lumin City in it (at the time I had no idea who he was or what drama he was in)
and based on the several in-person interactions I've had with him in these events he has Chris-Chan levels of autism. The dude is completely oblivious to basic social awareness. Being around him was so uncomfortable and awkward and many attendees to these events got the same vibes. But we didn't want to say anything because we knew he was autistic and gave him the benefit of the doubt. But with each event, we grew tired of him to the point a lot of local attendees stopped going due to his presence.
There was one specific event I attended that broke the camel's back for me. It was when we had a board game event at our local nerd-related shop that hosted a room for board games. The room was very tight and compacted, with 3 board game tables. And Lumin being the autist he is, brought his fursuit with him. Whenever the group made jokes he would laugh really like to the point he was yelling, making the other board game groups visually frustrated with our group. It didn't help that for the entire night he was wearing his furtail and it kept touching the members of the group next to us that were playing their own game. Everyone in the room gave Lumin the fish eye and everyone was visibly uncomfortable.
But the straw that broke the camel's back for everyone else on the server was when he flat-out made a racist remark towards members on the server who are POC.
You can tell in these screenshots how completely oblivious he is to basic social interactions. The server owner officially banned him from the server around early January when newly joined members began pinging Lumin with that exposed video about him on YouTube. Lumin tried to threaten anyone who questioned him with a lawsuit. But when we continued pressuring him about it he tried asking the server owner to ban anyone who brought it up. Because according to him they were allegations and this was harassment.
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While he is gone from the server, many folks on the server went to Anthro-Con New England and they've been talking about how Lumin has been stirring up drama. A member in our group shares a room with Lumin cause the room was cheap and he is venting how he regrets doing it. Lumin ate all of his pre-made food without asking him and he also took a shit on the bed.
The con staff officially banned him from stepping foot on convention grounds. He was forced to stay in his hotel room for the entire event due to harassing random people including interviewers. And I heard something about Tripp filing a restraining order on Lumin.
Tripp made a tweet about it here: https://twitter.com/TrippWahDog/status/1736123393135517775
 
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Hello there, @LAnonymouseP, and thank you for taking the time to come to the Farms and check out the thread. I appreciate you sharing your take on what happened because I would love more first-hand information to flesh out the thread more. You're also more than welcome to DM me on here in case you have more you'd like to share but don't want to post publicly.

It was when we had a board game event at our local nerd-related shop that hosted a room for board games. The room was very tight and compacted, with 3 board game tables. And Lumin being the autist he is, brought his fursuit with him. Whenever the group made jokes he would laugh really like to the point he was yelling, making the other board game groups visually frustrated with our group. It didn't help that for the entire night he was wearing his furtail and it kept touching the members of the group next to us that were playing their own game.
Lumin uploaded this photo of himself to FurTrack where it seems like everyone else is visibly ignoring him at what appears to be a card/board game shop. Could you confirm if this photo was taken at one of these meets?
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The server owner officially banned him from the server around early January when newly joined members began pinging Lumin with that exposed video about him on YouTube.
Are you referring to this video that was made by NovelyJpg? It's one of the only videos I see on YouTube talking critically about him, but I hadn't initially put it in the OP mostly due to it being a retread of what I already wrote.


A member in our group shares a room with Lumin cause the room was cheap and he is venting how he regrets doing it. Lumin ate all of his pre-made food without asking him and he also took a shit on the bed.
What do you MEAN HE TOOK A SHIT ON THE BED??? If that's even remotely true, that's both hilarious and horrifying. Do you have anything further on this you could share, like chat logs or such?

The con staff officially banned him from stepping foot on convention grounds. He was forced to stay in his hotel room for the entire event due to harassing random people including interviewers.
I've heard two different stories floating around as to why he was banned. One suggests he was harassing people doing interviews (which is very obvious by the random creepshot he posted to his youtube community) and I heard he did something to Tripp that resulted in him contacting security on Lumin. It's probably a little of both, but is there any more information you could share regarding what he said/did to the interviewers?
 
Lumin declares someone is doing "unauthorized" interviews at Anthro New England and everyone should distance themselves.
Nigga should be a DELONG Fiber Optic HDMI Cable 40ft Long HDMI Cable Support 4K UHD 60Hz at 18Gbps Ultra high Speed,Suitable for HDTV/TVBOX/Gaming Box/Projector/Nintendo Switch 12m cable the way he's projecting his paranoia on twitter.

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Holy shit that's the fucking board game event.
Lumin didn't even ask anyone in the event to post that stuff without our consent. Please whatever y'all do maintain the members of the server private. We didn't consent to being posted on Furtrack.

Lumin took a shit on the bed? I wasn’t expecting him to do a bluefolf, but shit & furniggers go together like shit and flies
I'd have to say allegedly. I wasn't in the event so it's hear or say. Don' take it as gospel.
 
Turns out that Lumin got banned from Anthro New England for stalking. lmao. :story:

Tripp just tweeted this video explaining what happened from his point of view:

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00:02 “Let's just say Lumin city is fucking unhinged, and I mean UNHINGED, so by the time this video is up I will have gone to my local police precinct and filed for a harassment/stalking charge during ANE”

00:51 He elaborates on what happened. According to Tripp, after the fursuit parade, he was chatting with some friends in the resting area post-parade. At some point, Lumin walked up behind him and stared at him for a good 20-30 seconds. He then made some weird hand motion to get Tripp's attention, shoved a piece of mangled paper in Tripp’s hands, then sprinted the fuck away.

02:25 The letter was shoddily wrapped up in another layer of paper and tape as some sort of shitty attempt at an envelope.

03:08 A friend of Tripp’s witnesses this and asks him what happened. Tripp says he’s unsure what he was handed and doesn’t know if it’s safe to open, so he decides to take the letter to Con Ops. He asks them to open the letter for him because he’s concerned it may be laced with something.

04:25 Cop Ops put on gloves and cut open the letter. It’s safe, but it’s revealed to be an extremely shitty Cease and Desist order written by Lumin.

05:06 The letter has no legal bearing, it’s not notarized, doesn’t cite any actual laws, and Lumin signed it with his fucking fursona name.

05:59 Tripp reads off the letter and emphasizes that this has no bearing on any actual legal laws. Here’s the letter itself:
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08:48 Con Ops laughed their ass off at how fucking stupid Lumin and the letter were, said they were revoking his badge for harassment and stalking, and Lumin is no longer welcome on hotel property.

10:04 “By the time you see this video, this letter has been given to the police, and are most likely investigating this whole thing at this point. I will be pressing charges against Lumin City.”

10:38 “This situation is just bizarre. I've never been involved in a situation where someone hands me a fake cease and desist letter and claim it as a legit document” [...] “The fact they handed this to me and thought I would take this seriously is actually shocking. Anyway, enjoy your ban from every single con Lumin, and I hope I never see your face ever again.”


I would just like to say that I've documented furry drama on KF on and off since early 2020, and I can say without any shred of doubt that this is THE MOST exceptionally autistic way I've ever seen someone get banned from a convention.


EDIT: Someone found the template Lumin made this letter with. It's literally the first Google result for "defamation of character cease and desist template"
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