CenturyLink/Qwest/Layer3 blocks Kiwi Farms

[Iwasamwillbe]

I believe that there's something to be said in how I'm still able to access the Kiwi Farms from the USA, but European ISPs are blocking the Kiwi Farms simply because mentally ill and degenerate eunuchs are engaging in criminal extortion rackets against them.

Mainly in that there are still essential freedoms that America has which must be protected at all costs, and that the supposedly "better educated" and "better governed" Europeans are not nearly as free as they might otherwise pretend they are.

 

[thhrang]

Tyranny thrives on lies.

And you can't spell tyranny without tranny.

 

[Dr. Matthew C. Harris]

"first nail is in the coffin for free speech online."
Fucking kek, get off elon's dick dummy. This isn't a violation of muh free speech because the government isn't interfering in your retarded culture war. If you're a pain-in-the-ass customer because every provider you go to gets caught in the crossfire between you and the raging troon mob you've collected like a cloud of locusts, providers have every right to decline to do business with you and you can fuck off to one of their competitors. That's capitalism. The only first amendment issue here is that providers can't and shouldn't be compelled to do business with you.

This is why you're a cow, Josh. I enjoy this site and hope you can keep it up, thanks for that, but unironically crying FrEe SpEeCh is fucking embarrassing. Free speech means free from government censorship. Free speech does not mean consequence-free, and the troons have the same right to free speech you do under US law. You are not entitled to private services when you subject those service providers to high volume troonery. It's no wonder they wouldn't want to do business with you

"Bro it's easy just make your own platform!"
"Bro it's easy just make your own ISP!"

People who say that line clearly just have never been the recipient of an autistically obsessed troon's wrath. You feel like that does not affect you on a personal level, but I hope I'm wrong when I say that one day you might just wake up some some troon knocking on your front door for who knows what random reason, and having no recourse, nobody to even complain to because first they came for us.

Hell, just you saying "troon" on the internet is enough. One of these days you wake up, see that the new, groundbreaking record holder for women's triathlon is none other than Dr. Rachel McKinnon, and you say "that's bullshit" in the vicinity of other troons, get a bunch of likes for it. Guess what? Now your life is fucking over.

 

[Naoto]

I think it will get shit on next if KF and other sites they don't want goes down.

The next websites will be mumsnet and ovarit because they are run and owned by women.

 

[John Ligma]

It was blocked for me all last night and this morning, but it's back up now on Comcast. US West.

 

[Antipathyisbadright]

Sorry if this is late but wanted to say

I’ve been on the site a lot this week and last, (regained my account access finally and have been in heaven) and despite the evil and shit nature of Verizon and Comcast, my phone and my home internet have not had any interruption in loading the farms so far.

Verizon seemed to be throttling after the initial cloudflare drop and stuff for awhile, but it got noticeably better and started loading normally at the end of November finally on Verizon (after multiple complaints to them)
We had AT&T prior to Xfinity/Comcast and AT&T throttled the site to an unusable level. We switched because of that and told them that was why. Fingers crossed Verizon and Xfinity don’t succumb to this massive load of Anal discharge that’s trying to take our beloved gossip site down- if so we’ll be making lots of noise and complaining to the ISP, FCC, phone service provider, and we’ll use vpns and switch providers again if necessary.
Fucking Bullshit. They need to target actual issues not a damn gossip site that just collects and re-posts info people post about themselves into one place and provides a bit of commentary to go alongside, it’s truly a mindfuck.

 

[Staffy]

The next websites will be mumsnet and ovarit because they are run and owned by women.

Yes, the point is though, onionfarms isn't safe either since its branded as an offshoot of kf. The moment a deranged dkf troon sees them they're screwed.

They either have to kowtow by rebranding and stop mocking troons or stay on the down low which is a big oof for what they built their website for. If they fight back, that's based of them.

 

[FILTH Tourist]

It's kind of mind blowing Dong Gone can just ring up executives and go "website mean plz censor" and they fucking do it. I can't get executives at the corpo I work for to respond even if the data center is literally on fire.

How does one achieve this level of power? (preferably without cutting your cock off)

Dong is just following the example of his Chinese ancestors:

• Chinese men used to castrate themselves to get jobs in the imperial court so they can gain influence and power.
• Troons castrate themselves so they can get diversity hired into tech jobs where they can gain influence and power.

 

[Capsaicin Addict]

Nothing is safe if these faggots get their way.

There's a reason Null and the EFF have pointed out the horrendous precedent it sets. It will not fucking stop with KF. Any site that the troonfags take offense to will be targeted.

 

[F13 Key]

I don't know about FOIAing the DHS/FBI to see if they're "targeting" KF through the ISPs. It's pretty obvious #DropKiwiFarms is led by individuals with connections mainly in media and IT, not LE per se. As for the Fedz I am sure they must have a huge dossier on KF by now, but even if they did, what can you do about it? The situation at Twatter is very different from the one at KF and I don't think the two are remotely comparable in any way. Twatter were actively in dialogue with intelligence and granting the FBI/DHS whatever censorship requests they submitted. Twatter were allowing themselves to be manipulated by intel about supposedly impending disinfo campaigns, which made them more willing to grant whatever censorship requests came in from the government. There's always a lot of speculation all over KF about "glowies" being agents provocateurs on this forum, but the fact is that you can't conclusively prove any of that, and even if you did, there isn't much you can do about it to prevent it. I suspect the idea of the Fedz having a huge secret folder on KF that could or couldn't be FOIAed is very sexy to a lot of people, and would make KF seem like a huge deal in a lot of people's minds ("Oh look even the FEDZ are paying attention to KF!") but it's all quite pointless in the end. The government can build themselves an army of paper tigers that the average person is ultimately powerless against.

On the other hand #DropKiwiFarms have implied they'd FOIA the FCC to gain access to any complaints filed against ISPs by KFers in order to doxx KFers using those letters:



Edit: OldManLondre, the Youtuber who has been targeting KFers' crypto addresses to get them shut down, he announced he was going to FOIA the Fedz for any records on KF:

This is highly illustrative of how these people are so unbelievably hypocritical, in addition to being unbelievably fucking stupid.

Rekieta reads the names of people who submitted bullshit ethics complaints about him to the bar: REEEEEEEE DOXING OMG OUR PERSONAL SAFETY
Troons file FOIA requests to the FCC/FTC specifically to get the names of complainants: this "doxing" stuff is pretty okay, actually

The difference here is twofold:

One is troons filing an offensive action report against someone, falsely, to attempt to get him censured by a government agency. And, doing so using a form which specifically stated, "In all cases, we are required to send a copy of the complaint to the complained against lawyer even if we decide not to investigate the complaint."

The other is kiwis filing a defensive action report to a government agency, legally, to complain to it about what we believe to be tier 1 ISPs acting as content regulators in an inappropriate capacity, which it is completely within our legal rights to do. And, it in no way is an action being done offensively to persecute these people somehow, as noxious as they may be.

When filing a report to a government agency, there is no expectation of privacy from the government, and you are informed that the agency may disclose your identity if it's in the public's interest to do so. There is, however, some expectation of privacy from random dipshit looney troons hoping to get a "list of names" to post online everywhere in order to ruin their lives. Thus, from the FTC's FOIA handbook:

Get fucked, niggers.

 

[Iwasamwillbe]

"first nail is in the coffin for free speech online."
Fucking kek, get off elon's dick dummy. This isn't a violation of muh free speech because the government isn't interfering in your retarded culture war. If you're a pain-in-the-ass customer because every provider you go to gets caught in the crossfire between you and the raging troon mob you've collected like a cloud of locusts, providers have every right to decline to do business with you and you can fuck off to one of their competitors. That's capitalism. The only first amendment issue here is that providers can't and shouldn't be compelled to do business with you.

This is why you're a cow, Josh. I enjoy this site and hope you can keep it up, thanks for that, but unironically crying FrEe SpEeCh is fucking embarrassing. Free speech means free from government censorship. Free speech does not mean consequence-free, and the troons have the same right to free speech you do under US law. You are not entitled to private services when you subject those service providers to high volume troonery. It's no wonder they wouldn't want to do business with you

This (bait) argument is a display of a tactic an associate of mine liked to call "forced apathy" or "forced indifference", and anyone who's seen "culture war" arguments has more than likely already seen this thought-terminating cliche before, because it basically boils down to some variation of "why do you care so much, dude" or "it's just X bro, get over it" with maybe some added addendums, like a selectively ultra-libertarian "muh terms of service" or "it's just a business making decisions", or a very much in bad faith "free speech =/= freedom from consequences" or "free speech only applies against government" argument.

This kind of argument tactic is "cute" when you're arguing over something like an established character getting raceswapped in a movie or somesuch, but it is very much not "cute" when it something that could immediately affect the entire global internet writ large.

I'm talking so much at length about this because you're going to see a lot more arguments of this kind in Total Retard War. You will see open communists turn into staunch hyper-libertarians if it means that they might get to see the meanie bad site go down.

 

[Big moth tiddies]

How did you word your complaint? This is actually something they're supposed to handle.

Kept it matter of factly, just stated that a Tier 1 backbone provider was refusing to peer. Gave the IP of the address involved, things of that nature.

Somehow I'm now able to view 103.114.191.1 (Kiwi Farms) on clearnet, and get a tracert to resolve for it through GTT. However 103.114.191.11 (madattheinternet.com) is still blackholed for me. Why allow KF and blackhole MATI? Why allow KF but not just undo the entire subnet? Very strange, but big news that GTT seems to be routing KF again.

Spectrum fag here. As I said earlier they rerouted after I called to complain so I was curious if this would be the case for me.
I don't think this is a Tier 1 doing shenanigans. I think the site might be down or something. I say this because I did a trace and came up with this.

8 44 ms 35 ms 37 ms lag-803.prr02atlnga.netops.charter.com [96.34.3.37]
9 39 ms 46 ms 51 ms ae18.cr2-atl2.ip4.gtt.net [208.116.215.169]
10 47 ms 55 ms 51 ms ae13.cr1-was1.ip4.gtt.net [213.200.115.178]
11 51 ms 49 ms 53 ms 208.116.140.254.galaxy.cosmic.global [208.116.140.254]
12 * * * Request timed out.
13 * * * Request timed out.

And then it just keeps timing out for the remainder of the 30 hops. On top of that, I get a "This site can't be reached, madattheinternet.com took too long to respond." error from Brave instead of the "Page cannot be loaded" which is usually what pops up when you're trying to access a site some overbearing faggot thinks you shouldn't be able to. When I trace using the KF IP, the next and last hop after Cosmic Galaxy is KF itself. That leads me to think something is wrong with the MATI site.

I'm no networking expert though, so know that I may be completely wrong.

 

[Phillip Green]

Is it Christmas miracle time? All day I was only able to access Clearnet over TOR, or VPN to Amsterdam.

Just now, in northwestern USA, Comcast, Verizon Mobile, and NordVPN USA Nodes started working over Clearnet. Not sure if Null engaged in some more magical network shenanigans, or you magnificent retards won a quick victory. But in my neck of the woods we're back.

 

[EndOfTheWorld]

Late AF (slept in) but just wanted to update that I can now access the site again without a VPN in Australia (unlike last night).

 

[Bugged_NPC]

"first nail is in the coffin for free speech online."
Fucking kek, get off elon's dick dummy. This isn't a violation of muh free speech because the government isn't interfering in your retarded culture war. If you're a pain-in-the-ass customer because every provider you go to gets caught in the crossfire between you and the raging troon mob you've collected like a cloud of locusts, providers have every right to decline to do business with you and you can fuck off to one of their competitors. That's capitalism. The only first amendment issue here is that providers can't and shouldn't be compelled to do business with you.

This is why you're a cow, Josh. I enjoy this site and hope you can keep it up, thanks for that, but unironically crying FrEe SpEeCh is fucking embarrassing. Free speech means free from government censorship. Free speech does not mean consequence-free, and the troons have the same right to free speech you do under US law. You are not entitled to private services when you subject those service providers to high volume troonery. It's no wonder they wouldn't want to do business with you

I logged in just to say your take is dumb and you are dumb.

 

[iudex]

When I trace using the KF IP, the next and last hop after Cosmic Galaxy is KF itself. That leads me to think something is wrong with the MATI site.

I'm no networking expert though, so know that I may be completely wrong.

I get the same kind of results for both, except with ip4.gtt.net instead of cosmic. I also thought that maybe MATI is just screwed up somehow, but I can ping it from Hurricane Electric and access it myself if I VPN into Norway. That makes me think there's still ISP tomfuckery happening. But who knows, I'm definitely not a networking expert either. Only thing to do is wait and see tomorrow, maybe it's just down again until Josh has to do something.

 

[Niggerphobe]

As ceo of the anti nigger corp supplies are on their way

 

[Cherry Eyed Hamster]

The next websites will be mumsnet and ovarit because they are run and owned by women.

Mumset gets targeted all the fucking time. I won’t disclose how I know this, but troons absolutely loathe the site. Trust me, if trans people see something they don’t like, they’ll come at it with fire and brimstone.

 

[Ted Kaczynski]

TOTAL RETARD WAR


FIRE UP THE COMPLAINT LINES LADDIES

 

[Naoto]

Mumset gets targeted all the fucking time. I won’t disclose how I know this, but troons absolutely loathe the site. Trust me, if trans people see something they don’t like, they’ll come at with fire and brimstone.

I always said nobody hates women as much as trans"women" hate women.