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Just in case anyone gets confused by this: DSA here means Downtown Seattle Association, not the organization of seditious communists that shares the same acronym.
CHAZ/CHOP: Autonomous No Cop Zone and Commune Declared In Seattle - Render unto Warlord Raz what is owed to Warlord Raz
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Just in case anyone gets confused by this: DSA here means Downtown Seattle Association, not the organization of seditious communists that shares the same acronym.
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They literally don't. They can just hang up on you without any legal consequences whatsoever.
There is case after case affirming this concept.
etc. etc. etc.The Police are Not Required to Protect You — Barnes Law
To Protect and to Serve” – the ubiquitous creed emblazoned across millions of police cars throughout Los Angeles and indeed the United States. This motto is consistent with the common belief that police officers as well as other law enforcement officers are here to protect us.www.barneslawllp.com
You know. Laws like this one are near unthinkable here in europe. Fuck I have searched high and low for any spanish equivalent, didn't find any. But even if there were... If a cop here deserts duty that's Prevaricacion. I have heard of a few times where they've been condemned for it. Hell right now we got an open case against the Mosso's chief for that going on. So it sure as shit ain't aplicable. And to me the idea that someone can be getting pummeled, and have a policeman right besides them, and the cop does nothing? That's just straight up alien lingo. Every time I see this quirk of american law I just... That's just wrong. I don't mean you're wrong I mean whoever drafted that law was wrong about life itself. It's unnatural.
You know what I noticed? That Jayden bitch got the same eyes and facial structure as Amy from Amy's Baking Company.
Same energy too.
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Once more proving these fucks live in their own world now.They're not bending the knee - this was their plan from before.
Considering this is the brainchild of Mosqueda and Sawant, it will obviously not reach actual small business. It will instead be siphoned off to different "organisations" who will put it in their coffers, fund more and more terrorism and only be dolled out to those who confirm their political bias.
Expedia seems like they're onboard, but it also sounds like they're not onboard.
The DSA is not on board, which is positive - “We continue to believe taxing jobs is bad public policy, and it’s especially ill-advised as we enter what is likely a deep recession and an unprecedented rise in unemployment,"
In regards to taxing Amazon - "Under that proposal, officials estimated the city could bring in about $500 million each year to go toward affordable housing and other issues."
Other issues means more graffiti, more "community right think patrols" and more "recovery" if their pet chimps freak out again.
Regardless, the comments areencouraging and would give a good cross section of "silent" Seattle...
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"I don't understand why people are hesitant to abolish the police."
"What is your plan?"
"We don't have one."
Mother fuckers. These people are terrorists instead of citizens. You can't negotiate or compromise with them.
Also that guardian appears to be a literal clown.
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Yeah that's the favourite tactic of commies since Marx himself. They detect an issue people actually have, latch onto it, and just when you're thinking "oh hey they're totally right I wonder what solution they're gonna propose." They just give you no real solution and instead claim for absolute lunacy and power vacuum while ranting about empty words and vague concepts. And it's like:
Never mind then. It can be so much worse if this guys get to power...
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almost sounds like north korea
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I have to disagree. Even North Korea wouldn't tolerate this shit for more than two fucking seconds before Chonma-Ho tanks started rolling through the crowds.
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I didn't know there were
Police in America are just government employees, not an arm of the military. People say things like "they abandoned their post!" And "they disobeyed a direct order!" Because they watch too much TV. You're allowed to quit your job or tell your boss where to stick it any time you want, at least in America. They're free to fire you if they don't like it.
Police do not exist to be action heroes. Traffic tickets are just slips of paper that say you're accused of something, and here are your rights. Arresting someone is not a punishment-- it's taking you to a court so they can decide if you need to be punished.
America is historically less paternalistic than Europe, and we believe in separation of powers. That's why the Marxists and the Authoritarian Right have teamed up to import docile, obedient slave-citizens from shitholes in South America and Africa.
All that said, if a cop decides to act like an action hero, he gsts praised, at least if it works. This is what your European brain is having trouble with-- we don't, yet, have laws telling us we must do good things. American law is "do whatever you want, as long as it's not these things." You can see that right down to the language of the Constitution. It's "these rights must not be infringed," not "these rights must be upheld." That may seem like the same result on the surface, but it's not. "I tried" is only an excuse for failing a positive goal.
Police in America are just government employees, not an arm of the military. People say things like "they abandoned their post!" And "they disobeyed a direct order!" Because they watch too much TV. You're allowed to quit your job or tell your boss where to stick it any time you want, at least in America. They're free to fire you if they don't like it.
Police do not exist to be action heroes. Traffic tickets are just slips of paper that say you're accused of something, and here are your rights. Arresting someone is not a punishment-- it's taking you to a court so they can decide if you need to be punished.
America is historically less paternalistic than Europe, and we believe in separation of powers. That's why the Marxists and the Authoritarian Right have teamed up to import docile, obedient slave-citizens from shitholes in South America and Africa.
All that said, if a cop decides to act like an action hero, he gsts praised, at least if it works. This is what your European brain is having trouble with-- we don't, yet, have laws telling us we must do good things. American law is "do whatever you want, as long as it's not these things." You can see that right down to the language of the Constitution. It's "these rights must not be infringed," not "these rights must be upheld." That may seem like the same result on the surface, but it's not. "I tried" is only an excuse for failing a positive goal.
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I'm getting fairly annoyed at how hard you're shilling Spain. Your country has had 25% unemployment for the last 10 years, is constantly at risk of losing its wealthiest province, and has it's own movement of virtue signallers erasing your recent history, plus actual communists in the form of Podemos are currently in power. When British retirees stop resettling in Andalusia y'all are truly fucked
EDIT: Well, I'm apparently retarded because I quoted the wrong person. Sorry @heathercho .
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This is because the US is based in English Common Law, which had its initial derivatives from the Magna Carta, which mostly sums up "The King is not allowed to do X" against his barons. This steadily trickled down into history and more and more groups over the centuries hence, and most law offices even have a copy of it hanging up on a wall somewhere.
Huge huge portions of the way the british did things actually remained behind in the US for much of its early formation. (Which at one point included an elected King as opposed to the President)
only really getting light influence from the French. Both settings would later allow German immigrants to move and settle under the less repressive lawmaking found themselves able to do shit they weren't allowed to in the Homeland.
The majority of Europe is now based on Napoleonic Law, and I think a large large portion of our UK justice system being so fucked up and cucked is because we've spent 40 years importing this vile method of lawmaking and incorporating it onto our books. Hence why people are eagerly looking towards burning as much EU imported shite as humanly possible from next year, and why the EU is desperately trying to make us keep a "level playing field" because we might just fuck off completely in rights and economics.
We only get away with it business wise because theres enough bankers and business based money men about to stop it, even then, the corporatists tend to try and push for more EU/Napoleonic Shite because it lessens the chance of upstarts taking their place.
Napoleonic Law is "You are not permitted to do x unless expressly said so".
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Did any of them actually run to get a medic or did they just stand there waving their arms screaming "medic" until the message got to where it was needed?
Do the medics have a phone number?
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They're not bending the knee - this was their plan from before.
Considering this is the brainchild of Mosqueda and Sawant, it will obviously not reach actual small business. It will instead be siphoned off to different "organisations" who will put it in their coffers, fund more and more terrorism and only be dolled out to those who confirm their political bias.
Expedia seems like they're onboard, but it also sounds like they're not onboard.
The DSA is not on board, which is positive - “We continue to believe taxing jobs is bad public policy, and it’s especially ill-advised as we enter what is likely a deep recession and an unprecedented rise in unemployment,"
In regards to taxing Amazon - "Under that proposal, officials estimated the city could bring in about $500 million each year to go toward affordable housing and other issues."
Other issues means more graffiti, more "community right think patrols" and more "recovery" if their pet chimps freak out again.
Regardless, the comments are
How is Amazons HQ2 doing by the way?
I'm pretty sure everyone of these "big businesses" or single individuals they want to tax will just move out of Seattle for a few miles and Seattles will become an even bigger laughing stock as it already is. Can we actually have a lolcow thread about a city and/or its council? Asking for friend.
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I know you meant it as a good thing. But it's really not. Seems you just found the formula to opress the population freely. Rest of the planet is of the opinion that rights, indeed, shouldn't be infringed. If you keep the government from infringing on them but allow corporations to do so, you're just outsourcing tyranny! Fuck me that explains quite a bit about how much this situation sucks. I mean I am the first to openly criticize the level of overreach some laws cause. But if your government doesn't defend your rights and your cops don't protect the population, then it seems to me your entire system is a giant fucking paper tiger uphold by sheer good will and happy thoughts. And it seems the Atlanta situation proves you just ran out of happy thoughts.
Fuck and here I thought Sanchez's negotiation tactics were retarded. Turns out the entire political system of the USA is based on them. Jesus fucking christ almighty.
Well you're gonna keep getting annoyed I can tell you that for a fact. Though if you check the wuhan thread you'll see I am more than able to criticize Spain, and have described its politics as "a circus", which I definitely still think. God our congress is full of potatoes. But Podemos isn't in power, only part of the coalition. And taking into account they defended the right to bear arms and have been doing a better job of protecting the free market than your federal ass I'm gonna say if they're comies what the hell does that make you. Though they have gone full femenazi multiple times, as I mentioned in the past. I do hate those virtue signalers from Vox and the PP. But thankfuly we have managed to fuck them over repeatedly and keep rescuing fragments of our history. Just a week ago another mass grave was finally reopened and we started giving proper burial to its occupants. We have literally never risked loosing Barcelona for real, and I have explained why multiple times, and also it's just the 2nd richest province, richest is madrid. And I am the first to laugh my ass off at the fact that the spanish economy has never not been depressed so I won't say anything about that one. Fuck it's the reason I'm having to migrate, can't find a fucking job here. Point is. I have talked shit of spain in the past, quite a bit, but I will absolutely keep using it as a point of comparison when aplicable because comparisons are good for analysis, and I will keep shilling because fuck me you're in the shitter. I mean shit's going bad here I'm the first to point it out but whenever I look outside... It's like the LEAST bad here. Which is also why eurofag retirees will never stop coming. Fuck would you really rather spend your retired years in cultural enrichment town? Hand grenade central? Merkel's tyranny? France? We got good climate, hospitals and food, and low criminality. We're basically the best place to retire and we fucking know it.
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Good idea, fund new affordable housing so the peaceful protestors have more to torch.
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If Spains not trying to erase its history why are they exhuming Francos remains, removing his monuments repeatedly, etc. etc.? As for supporting gun rights, good on them, but you cant deny that podemos are radical marxists aiming to overthrow the monarchy, and how exactly do they protect the free market?
Believe it or not most of the US is actually in decent shape protests wise. Outside of large urban areas, it's mostly calmost even in the rural black belt. Give it a matter of time for there to be full cultural enrichment, as your virtue signalling government is assisting with migrant importing NGOs and your cities become increasingly culturally enriched. you already had two serious terror incidents in both of your biggest cities, and Sanchez seems more like Dago Trudeau every day.
In the meantime, we can join in the community of friendship and brotherhood as we watch Seattle go up it's own asshole.
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"You seem to think it's a good thing that your government isn't your Daddy, but my Daddy lets me play with choo choo trains!"
This is why immigration is bad. Too many bottoms trying to move in.
This is why immigration is bad. Too many bottoms trying to move in.
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1-They didn't destroy the monuments. Only moved them to museums. And only 5 of them. The equestrian statues. And that wasn't Podemos, actually that entire process ended in 2010, Podemos didn't even exist until 2 years later. And actually it hasn't been Podemos trying to edit the history books, but the other side to hide what Franco did. Podemos actually is lobying for the civil war and regime to be included MORE in the books, since nowadays it's left to the last year of highschool and not technically mandatory, due to the old laws by the PP. As for the exhumating, that also wasn't Podemos, it was the PSOE, and I personally disagree with having done it (I see no point). But just so you get the full story, back when they passed Historical Memory law the PP agreed to empty the tombs and let republicans bury their dead so they could get some shit, I don't remember what it had to do with EU bullshit. Point is they did not specify correctly, which resulted in the law technically stating the Valle de Los Caidos, which technically does count as a mass grave, should be reopened too. At first the left let it go but after the PP spent the next years using legal trickery to keep the mass graves closed and keep fucking over the republicans the PSOE decided to be ultra pety and apply the law as written to exhumate franco just because they were feeling vindictive. It was a retarded move but the monument itself wasn't damaged at all so it's hardly "erasing history." Just pointless clownworld.
As for the free market. They lowered small business taxes, even pardoned them altogether for two months now, and applied the ERTE to finance businesses during the closing by the pandemic. Yeah that's right, ir was Podemos pushing for the tax pardoning. The right wing actually opposed it and indeed raised taxes last time they were in power. And it's far from the only tax podemos has pushed to lower since they're part of the government. In fact since the last time the right wing has been in power spain has lowered its taxes considerably.
And also as for the migrants. Fun fact. Yes we help those NGOs. And yet spain has a significantly lower percentage of migrants than the rest of western europe. And indeed a significantly lower percentage than years ago. And believe it or not, it is thanks to those same NGOs. How?
Well before we tried to fight migrants directly. But europe kept fucking with us and forcing us to take them in. So some lawyers had a great idea: since europe has banned us from sending them back home, but hasn't closed frontiers with us... what if we just ship them to france? And so basically that's what happened. Rajoi in what is basically the only good thing he did made a deal with the lawyers and NGOs, and basically got our immigration processing to, ejem, "find them a new home" in a country with a better economy than us out of charity (and absolutely nothing more than charity I assure you), france after noticing what was going on actually at one point tried sending them back to spain and we took them to EU court and got them fucked. Which is why France started copying us and sending them to britain and germany, which is why now britain hates france. Yeah that's right, we caused Brexit. And we're damned happy. We'll be happy to fuck over the NGOs and stop them as soon as the EU lets us just send people back home like we were doing before. Only reason we support them is they're better at taking migrants out than they are at bringing them in!
As for sanchez. Yeah he's an asshole. I hate the guy. Always have. But he's also worthless 'cause his coalition got him grabbed by the balls so he rules about as much as the king. Which is nothing. Fuck even during the pandemic the one time he tried to go full tyrant and forced a measure via ministry without congress aproval Podemos and the PNV betrayed him and sent him to deal with congress. That's the beautiful thing of spanish politics. They're so busy fighting each other they have no time to come fuck us. It's horrifying, but effective!
I must say I am glad to hear rural america isn't yet full cuck. But I will point the issues in the system, just like I am happy to point the ones in the spanish one.
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Your "issues with the (US) system" boil down to "they're not authoritarian cucks like my failed state which has to beg for tourist dollars to have any economy at all."
It doesn't really matter if they're are cavalry-style leather boots with spurs, or plant-based sustainable fair trade crocs. It's the licking of footwear that I object to, from antifa to stormfront.
It doesn't really matter if they're are cavalry-style leather boots with spurs, or plant-based sustainable fair trade crocs. It's the licking of footwear that I object to, from antifa to stormfront.
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And that's a strawman. I got multiple issues with the US. Mostly related to the two party system, but here's my biggest issue with the US: If your government isn't willing to defend your rights. THEN YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS.
Check the segment about the NGOs on my prior message. Technically Spain can't officially send migrants away. It just so happens than NGOs can aid migrants get from spain to the rest of europe. Spain wanted less migrants, so it aided NGOs which ship migrants to the rest of europe. So what is keeping your government from doing the same trickery to erase your rights?
The US government isn't able to infringe on your rights. But there's nothing to keep corporations and NGOs from doing so. So let's say the government wanted to silence freedom of speech. All it would need is to get an NGO to persecute people for it instead of doing it directly... You know. Literally what they are doing right now. WITH THE ADL. WHICH IS LITERALLY AN NGO WHOSE MAIN PURPOSE IS TO PERSECUTE PEOPLE TO ERASE THEIR FREEDOM OF SPEECH.
And also if your cops don't defend you. What's the point of cops?! If a cop can see you getting robbed and say "I ain't gotta deal with that." WHY HAVE COPS AT ALL?! I don't expect policement to be action heroes, but fuck me they open carry for a reason. It seems your legislators were so busy with making sure your cops wouldn't harm people they forgot about making sure they could ever stop people from being harmed! The fact that in the case of the train two cops saw one man be brutaly assaulted by a knife wielding druggie, and did nothing, is simply abhorrent. This is not being authoritarian. Is having a use.
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Is this why the French have such a massive boner for paperwork?