CHAZ/CHOP: Autonomous No Cop Zone and Commune Declared In Seattle - Render unto Warlord Raz what is owed to Warlord Raz

[Judge Dredd]

Actually I had a similar idea. Leave the CHAZ in place so that every Anarcho-Communist can migrate there to be amongst their people, live by their philosophy, and really make a go of it.

Your teenager starts sounding off about communism? Bam, bus ticket to CHAZ. Useless brother in law. Bam, kick him out of a speeding car outside the CHAZ.

Seattle could take the bullet for the nation by creating an open air containment zone/mental asylum.

Revolt in 2100 had a part similar to this (at least in the audiobook version I listened to on YouTube). There is a small nation that is purely ancap where they dump people unhappy with the government. Of course the idealistic PoV character goes on about how he'll buy a plot of land and make his own way in the world. He's mugged almost immediately and thrown in jail.

I'd like to pick a bit of land somewhere. Let's say the US, carve out a few areas each about the size of a couple of cities, declare one commie land, one ancap land, etc. They're effectively their own countries with three rules. They must accept any US citizen that wants to join them, they are to receive no foreign aid, and people that want to rejoin the US can do so at the USAs discretion.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/63/Coat_of_arms_of_the_Soviet_Union_1.svg

I see lefty memes existed in the soviet union too.

I miss when social experiments were some guy punching a bear trap.

What experiment was that? Why was that an experiment?


Was there any maps of CHAZ? I don't mean a drone shot of the roads they claimed, I mean a listing of what was where? It would be interesting to see what the final set up of this little experiment was.

 

[stupidpieceofshit]

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What the fuck is this batshit insanity universe, Mr Leftist Fatass is endorsing Trump.

This really is the Clown World time line.

 

[Pocket Dragoon]

They looked rather intimidating. I know normally they're the butt of the jokes, but these guys were lifting their mountain bikes up effortlessly to use as a shield wall, and I rather suspect you'd stop laughing at them when you're twatted with all the pointy bits that actually are on bikes.

Modern MTB tires are grippy as fuck, too; lock the brakes & bikes together, and you've got a very flexible wall.

Bike frames & wheels also make good standoff shields, a lot less offensive than standard riot shields.

A little OT: When I used to ride AM/downhill, I knew of two guys who used their bikes to fend off very large, pissed off animals until they could access a remedy. Y'all might be surprised how many serious mountainbikers carry guns nowadays; pretty much only those fag hipster singlespeed riders refuse to.

 

[Sped Xing]

All bike riders above the age of 13 are fags. Nobody said fags can't fight.

 

[Pocket Dragoon]

Why did they take his pants?

Considering the level of degeneracy; they checked all his pockets, looking for a stash.

 

[Linako 2.0]

Well that was fun while it lasted, can't wait to see how we'll look back to it by the end of the year.

 

[EmuWarsVeteran]

Styx weighs in on the end of CHAZ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoefy8t0Spo
https://archive.vn/wip/v4LUu
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Is Styx the secret mascot of the farms or something? I remember a kiwi once commented "it's not a real thread until someone posts Styx" and boy were they right. Don't get me wrong I like it. But it feels odd. I hadn't even heard of the guy before the farms.

Supposedly some of the medics have actual training. I don't have any proof of that statement so take that how you will.

By my experience. At best they MIGHT have paid close attention during the first aid training part of their driving licence. Usually its just a buncha uni students from biological fields, not always related to anything medical. Lotsa botanists for some reason.

Honestly either way for first aid having common sense and some very basic concepts is usually enough anyway. You don't need studies to get why Recovery Position is called that way, or that moving the head of someone that might've hit it is stupid, or knowing how to make tourniquets and bandages. If you don't know those you are not a functional human being. But Ancoms aren't exactly functional people with common sense now are they...

Besides, really most "medic" work is just hoarding water bottles for all the fucking heatstrokes and having a phone to call the cops/EMTs if shit goes real. Anyone can do that, and if you're doing things well and cooperating properly it'll be enough. Of course, again, Ancoms. *Sigh* seriously why are these people alive. We humans have sinned by keeping natural selection for performing its most holy of duties. We allowed stupid to live. This is the price to pay!

 

[Wilhelm Bittrich]

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literally the fucking meme

INGSOC would be proud of this idiot.

"The German Nazis and the Russian Communists came very close to us in their methods, but they never had the courage to recognize their own motives. They pretended, perhaps they even believed, that they had seized power unwillingly and for a limited time, and that just round the corner there lay a paradise where human beings would be free and equal. We are not like that. We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means, it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. " O'Brien to Winston Smith - 1984

 

[Iceland Heavy]

Supposedly some of the medics have actual training. I don't have any proof of that statement so take that how you will.

When I took an EMT course it was mostly aspiring firefighter types and PA school students but I remember one guy who was a really woke interesectional type (he was seriously a stereotype to the point the basic male/female anatomy lectures were low key offending him). He didn't last more than a few class sessions before dropping out but I'm certain he'd be an antifa 'medic' now (he still might be for all I know and just exaggerates his qualifications) if he had finished and I'm sure at least some of the antifa 'medics' at least have a certification.

 

[stupidpieceofshit]

At best they MIGHT have paid close attention during the first aid training part of their driving licence.

Does WA even require that? All I could find was for School bus drivers, and I know my state for your normal license doesn't require it.

 

[EmuWarsVeteran]

Does WA even require that? All I could find was for School bus drivers, and I know my state for your normal license doesn't require it.

Here in Spain it does. I thought it was the same way everywhere else. Feels weird they wouldn't include it. But now that you mention it I never really checked so manybe we're just being weird.

 

[stupidpieceofshit]

Here in Spain it does. I thought it was the same way everywhere else. Feels weird they wouldn't include it. But now that you mention it I never really checked so manybe we're just being weird.

I know Germany requires it, but the US I don't think its a requirement in most if any state. Any state with a law that requires people to render aid to some one in distress is basically "You are required to call 911 if it is safe to do so"

antifa 'medic' now

I found the Antifa "medic" training video

(unless its a "woman's" penis)

 

[Pocket Dragoon]

I found the Antifa "medic" training video

Zardoz is definitely an underappreciated sci-fi gem, and an excellent commentary on what happens to cultural elitists who think they can live forever, and lose control of the social experiment that they created.

 

[Without A Gout]

Black Lives Matter

> Two black kids shot by CHAZ security
> In the way that BLM alleges police treat black people
> One of them killed execution-style
> BLM does nothing
> 27 black people killed, over 100 shot in Chicago over past two weekends
> BLM does nothing
> Crime rising exponentially in cities across America
> BLM does nothing

It confirms what I thought: Black Lives Matter doesn't give a fuck about black people.

Black Lives Matter... when there is money to be made.

 

[Ponderous Pillock]

INGSOC would be proud of this idiot.

"The German Nazis and the Russian Communists came very close to us in their methods, but they never had the courage to recognize their own motives. They pretended, perhaps they even believed, that they had seized power unwillingly and for a limited time, and that just round the corner there lay a paradise where human beings would be free and equal. We are not like that. We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means, it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. " O'Brien to Winston Smith - 1984

"Real socialism" always fails when applied to the real world because of human greed. Exactly as the Orwell quote above, people want power, they are greedy, they take over for their own sakes. Socialists cannot square the circle of needing organic management and organic strategic management because the people attracted to it are either petty morons, or utter lunatics waiting for their crumb of power to finally unleash their inner napoleon. You saw that writ large with the Puget Sound Terrorists and their "kinder, community" policing of shooting 16 year olds in the face for joyriding.

It's happened every time even mild attempts of socialism were tried. There's always some tosspot with a chip on his shoulder who beleives in the bullshit because they'll do things differently, only to be useless.

One funny low key thing that happened in 1947, the year before 1984 came out was the UK government nationalising railways. One of the new Transport Commissioners was assigned to the London Midland folks in Derby.

He spent his first meeting with some of the oldest, wisest heads in railwaydom ranting about "The workers finally owning the railways" to a (former) company which boasted numerous worker perks, good housing and even provided prosthetic limbs to any workers hurt in the line of duty as well as still garunteeing their employment until retirement age in lighter duties instead of just getting rid of them as many other industries did.

One of these wiser heads however, knew him, and reportedly responded with "How are you a worker that understands railways? You were a manager in a tinned pea factory."

It'd take the government a further 18 years to actually bring the railways into actual state control, being quietly resisted by the old guard they kept in place due to their experience.

 

[Doug_S1]

Black Lives Matter

> Two black kids shot by CHAZ security
> In the way that BLM alleges police treat black people
> One of them killed execution-style
> BLM does nothing
> 27 black people killed, over 100 shot in Chicago over past two weekends
> BLM does nothing
> Crime rising exponentially in cities across America
> BLM does nothing

It confirms what I thought: Black Lives Matter doesn't give a fuck about black people.

Black Lives Matter... when there is money to be made.

Maybe Black Lives Matter is more of a question than a statement.

 

[EmuWarsVeteran]

I know Germany requires it, but the US I don't think its a requirement in most if any state. Any state with a law that requires people to render aid to some one in distress is basically "You are required to call 911 if it is safe to do so"

I found the Antifa "medic" training video

(unless its a "woman's" penis)

Here the law is a bit odd. Mostly you're just required to call 112 (our 911), and stick around. The rest is just things you can do to help but usually the law assumes if you didn't do anything besides that it's because you weren't sure if you'd cause more harm if you acted so you're off the cuff. Though it is recommended you still put up the fluorescent signs just to avoid further accidents. But the test still accounts for first aid training anyway 'cause... I mean if you're gonna stick around you might as well do something.

I dunno. I guess I am a statist by american standards. But I feel like not having first aid for accidents is just... weird. And while I might see the point in not requiring by law you call 911... I mean seeing an accident and not calling 911 is a massive dick move anyway you should do it without legal requirement.

(For more info: https://www.mundojuridico.info/delito-omision-del-deber-socorro/ )

 

[stupidpieceofshit]

well as still garunteeing their employment until retirement age in lighter duties

Its a socialist's every one's dream company to work for (and well I commend the company for actually looking out for the worker), we need to go back to "The company provides for the worker, and the worker provides for the company" thinking again, instead of just short term finchal goals.

Here the law is a bit odd. Mostly you're just required to call 112 (our 911), and stick around. The rest is just things you can do to help but usually the law assumes if you didn't do anything besides that it's because you weren't sure if you'd cause more harm if you acted so you're off the cuff. Though it is recommended you still put up the fluorescent signs just to avoid further accidents. But the test still accounts for first aid training anyway 'cause... I mean if you're gonna stick around you might as well do something.

I dunno. I guess I am a statist by american standards. But I feel like not having first aid for accidents is just... weird. And while I might see the point in not requiring by law you call 911... I mean seeing an accident and not calling 911 is a massive dick move anyway you should do it without legal requirement.

(For more info: https://www.mundojuridico.info/delito-omision-del-deber-socorro/ )

I think the reason for the US you basically have three types of auto accidents
fender bender - no one requires immediate medical intervention
Bad accident - Oh shit things are bad, but if I move the injured I risk making any possible neck injury worse, best wait for Fire/EMT with the proper training and tools to extract the injured.
Really bad accident - Oh fuck the car is on fire/in danger of catching fire (fuel leak and sparks as an example), better get the poor injured bastard out of the car before he goes up in flames even if it makes a possible neck injury worse.

There are times where it may not be safe to call 911 (e.g. active mugging you are near by and muggers are armed with a gun, they might drag you in to it too), piss poor diving conditions where if you pull over you are at risked of getting hit too, even first aid classes teach you "call 911 first and only render aid if it is safe to do so, it is better for the EMTs to only need to service one person, then two".

 

[LaxerBRO]

"Real socialism" always fails when applied to the real world because of human greed. Exactly as the Orwell quote above, people want power, they are greedy, they take over for their own sakes. Socialists cannot square the circle of needing organic management and organic strategic management because the people attracted to it are either petty morons, or utter lunatics waiting for their crumb of power to finally unleash their inner napoleon. You saw that writ large with the Puget Sound Terrorists and their "kinder, community" policing of shooting 16 year olds in the face for joyriding.

It's happened every time even mild attempts of socialism were tried. There's always some tosspot with a chip on his shoulder who beleives in the bullshit because they'll do things differently, only to be useless.

One funny low key thing that happened in 1947, the year before 1984 came out was the UK government nationalising railways. One of the new Transport Commissioners was assigned to the London Midland folks in Derby.

He spent his first meeting with some of the oldest, wisest heads in railwaydom ranting about "The workers finally owning the railways" to a (former) company which boasted numerous worker perks, good housing and even provided prosthetic limbs to any workers hurt in the line of duty as well as still garunteeing their employment until retirement age in lighter duties instead of just getting rid of them as many other industries did.

One of these wiser heads however, knew him, and reportedly responded with "How are you a worker that understands railways? You were a manager in a tinned pea factory."

It'd take the government a further 18 years to actually bring the railways into actual state control, being quietly resisted by the old guard they kept in place due to their experience.

Sounds like the 20th Century Motor Company

 

[EmuWarsVeteran]

Its a socialist's every one's dream company to work for (and well I commend the company for actually looking out for the worker), we need to go back to "The company provides for the worker, and the worker provides for the company" thinking again, instead of just short term finchal goals.


I think the reason for the US you basically have three types of auto accidents
fender bender - no one requires immediate medical intervention
Bad accident - Oh shit things are bad, but if I move the injured I risk making any possible neck injury worse, best wait for Fire/EMT with the proper training and tools to extract the injured.
Really bad accident - Oh fuck the car is on fire/in danger of catching fire (fuel leak and sparks as an example), better get the poor injured bastard out of the car before he goes up in flames even if it makes a possible neck injury worse.

There are times where it may not be safe to call 911 (e.g. active mugging you are near by and muggers are armed with a gun, they might drag you in to it too), piss poor diving conditions where if you pull over you are at risked of getting hit too, even first aid classes teach you "call 911 first and only render aid if it is safe to do so, it is better for the EMTs to only need to service one person, then two".

All that is the same here. Law specifically states you're not forced to do shit if it'd be risky to yourself for that reason. They do also teach you to specifically go raise the signs before giving aid to the person, 'cause often times what happens is if you prioritize helping some idiot who wasn't paying attention runs you over too... it seriously happened way too often before they formalized that into the training.