CHAZ/CHOP: Autonomous No Cop Zone and Commune Declared In Seattle - Render unto Warlord Raz what is owed to Warlord Raz

[muh_moobs]

The mayor, the city console, the police chief, and the people who were in CHAZ (who did not have domiciles and businesses before the take over) all have blood on their hands and should answer for their crimes in the court of law specifically the people in CHAZ who were "Security" and those who prevented police and EMS from entering.

No. They all need to be black-bagged in the middle of the night and renditioned to Gitmo for indefinite detention. The establishment and maintaining of the CHAZ was nothing less than domestic terrorism, and the only solution for these people is either to lock them away until the apocalypse or drop them in the Pacific Ocean.

A group of political radicals used both the threat of violence and actual violence to advance their political agenda. People were robbed, raped, and murdered in the name of political change. And the Mayor of Seattle, the Chief of Police of the SPD, city council, and the Governor of the State of Washington all willfully allowed this to happen.

Every. Single. Person. Who had no lawful reason to be in the CHAZ area during the occupation and the already named political officials have sacrificed their right to due process via their overt acts of sedition and treason and must be treated in accordance with those actions.

Failure to do so will only ensure that this continues to happen.

The second US civil war is here. It may not devolve into open combat in the streets, but people need to recognize this for what it is; a guerilla insurgency on the streets of the last nation standing for human liberty and individual freedom.

"When liberty dies in America, there will be no place left." - Ronald Reagan, 40th President of the United States of America.

 

[stupidpieceofshit]

All that is the same here. Law specifically states you're not forced to do shit if it'd be risky to yourself for that reason. They do also teach you to specifically go raise the signs before giving aid to the person, 'cause often times what happens is if you prioritize helping some idiot who wasn't paying attention runs you over too... it seriously happened way too often before they formalized that into the training.

Honestly if an idiot isn't playing attention you could have all the signs up and they would still run you over, at a job I had I worked in a gas station working outside a lot and had on Class 3 high viz jacket + high viz pants (with reflection strips) and I'd almost always get hit all the time.
Fucking idiots. They would even drive their cars over 5ft traffic (taller then their sadans, pickup trucks and lifted Jeeps never did this) cones to get to a pump that was down for service.

 

[Absolutego]

J is tired of being portrayed as a domestic terrorist ya'll

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How appropriate that they film this interview in the other part of the city that the government has abandoned to lawlessness and drug dealing in Westlake Center?

I recognize that fucking plaza, I know where they're sitting, and until the coronavirus came around, it was HERE, and not Capitol Hill, where black Seattleites were shooting each other, or tourists, to get locked up again by the county for a day or so before being let loose.

 

[stupidpieceofshit]

No. They all need to be black-bagged in the middle of the night and renditioned to Gitmo for indefinite detention. The establishment and maintaining of the CHAZ was nothing less than domestic terrorism, and the only solution for these people is either to lock them away until the apocalypse or drop them in the Pacific Ocean.

A group of political radicals used both the threat of violence and actual violence to advance their political agenda. People were robbed, raped, and murdered in the name of political change. And the Mayor of Seattle, the Chief of Police of the SPD, city council, and the Governor of the State of Washington all willfully allowed this to happen.

Every. Single. Person. Who had no lawful reason to be in the CHAZ area during the occupation and the already named political officials have sacrificed their right to due process via their overt acts of sedition and treason and must be treated in accordance with those actions.

Failure to do so will only ensure that this continues to happen.

The second US civil war is here. It may not devolve into open combat in the streets, but people need to recognize this for what it is; a guerilla insurgency on the streets of the last nation standing for human liberty and individual freedom.

"When liberty dies in America, there will be no place left." - Ronald Reagan, 40th President of the United States of America.

I agree with the sentiment, but America is a nation that is to be ruled by law (rational and predictable) not by men (irrational and unpredictable). To deprive these terrorists and traitors of their legal rights is only asking for trouble down the road when it comes to Government expansion. Every American (who doesn't get them selves killed by their own stupidity) is entitled to the right of a trail by jury, that is something that makes America great it is engrained in to our blood, it is something King George deprived our Forefathers of. Only once the court finds them guilty of insurrection (since the US constitution has a high bar for Treason) against the United States should they be black bagged to Gitmo.

 

[Spiteful Crow]

Well... an early morning arrest from Federal Agents pretty much is getting black bagged.

Feds arrest ‘ringleader’ in attack on Andrew Jackson statue by White House

Federal law enforcement officials on Thursday arrested a man in Washington they call a “ringleader” in the recent attempt to destroy the Andrew Jackson statue in Lafayette Square near the White House.

www.foxnews.com

This isn't getting coverage on the mainstream but it just keeps happening! Have you ever wondered if liberals actually realize that the world continues to exist while their eyes are closed?

 

[muh_moobs]

Not sure if the whole video has been posted yet, but this shows the direct aftermath of the shooting.

"That's not a firework"

And that's not a woman.

I agree with the sentiment, but America is a nation that is to be ruled by law (rational and predictable) not by men (irrational and unpredictable). To deprive these terrorists and traitors of their legal rights is only asking for trouble down the road when it comes to Government expansion. Every American (who doesn't get them selves killed by their own stupidity) is entitled to the right of a trail by jury, that is something that makes America great it is engrained in to our blood, it is something King George deprived our Forefathers of. Only once the court finds them guilty of insurrection (since the US constitution has a high bar for Treason) against the United States should they be black bagged to Gitmo.

Fuck 'em. These people declared independence. Their citizenship should be revoked, and with it, their constitutional protections.

"But the UN says it's "illegal" to make someone stateless".

The UN has also filled the human rights tribunal with despots and warlords. Fuck the UN.

Send the FBI for these people, attach the CIA and a team of Deltas to "act in assistance" and dump these people into a 4 x 4 steel box for the rest of their days.

 

[GatorWrasslin]

Fuck 'em. These people declared independence. Their citizenship should be revoked, and with it, their constitutional protections.

Luckily just because you say or do something stupid you don't lose your constitutional rights. Even if you try to wave them or not exert them it doesn't mean they don't exist. Even if you opt to wave your right to remain silent you can still shut the fuck up anytime you want afterwards. Even if you suddenly declare "Im not a citizen and this is my kingdom" doesnt suddenly make it true, even if it seems true because Durkan doesnt send in bike cops in tight shorts immediately to break it up. Its still larping, its still pretend, it still doesnt make them non-citizens or strip them of rights, and wrong-think still isn't a crime. (It's all the other crimes they committed that are crimes.)

 

[stupidpieceofshit]

Fuck 'em. These people declared independence. Their citizenship should be revoked, and with it, their constitutional protections.

"But the UN says it's "illegal" to make someone stateless".

The UN has also filled the human rights tribunal with despots and warlords. Fuck the UN.

Send the FBI for these people, attach the CIA and a team of Deltas to "act in assistance" and dump these people into a 4 x 4 steel box for the rest of their days.

UN in the discussion is irreverent (because in terms of US policy they are irrelevant the US is a P5 member of the Security console which means they can auto veto any resolution that attacks the US), hence why I never said shit about the UN.

Article 2 Section 3 of the US Constitution deals with Treason

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.

The Congress shall have power to declare the punishment of treason, but no attainder of treason shall work corruption of blood, or forfeiture except during the life of the person attainted.

Although yes the protesters (peaceful and non-peaceful) keep citing the Geneva convention (Which wouldn't apply anyways because that is for international warfare, not a civil war), and using termonolgy used in war (e.g. occupation zone) Do we really want to open that can of worms, even more so since only police (civilian law enforcement) has been used to to this point en mass and state activated national guard (not federally activated national guard), it is hard to call it "levying war".

Yes I agree they are traitors to the Union but the rule of law must be followed, if the rule of law is not, it only gives the government more ability to call people who just simply disagree with the State on some law or policy to call them traitor and Gitmo them. This is not a good thing, What if a Commie becomes president, do we want them to use the same excuse Trump would use to Gitmo people in CHAZ, even if its actual peaceful protest? (not occupy zones, not throwing shit at the police) History shows us the Fed likes to expand its powers, it will use any excuse it can use, and although yes CHAZ/CHOP needs to/needed to be dealt with, we can not abandoned the rule of law, for our own sakes in the future.

 

[irishAzoth]

J is tired of being portrayed as a domestic terrorist ya'll

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J is mentally ill heres a vid of her acting like her real lightskin self

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

J is mentally ill heres a vid of her acting like her real lightskin self

White people have systematic privilege which is why as I white person I needed to black up to get a position of political influence and be immune from criticism from the media.

It reminds me of the way some of these far-left types claim to be gender critical or trans to get a few more oppression points. Because in their world the more oppression points you have, the more immune from criticism you are and the further up the progressive stack you go.

It's almost like non-white, non-straight, non-male people have the real privilege or something.

 

[Forgetful Gynn]

Really bad accident - Oh fuck the car is on fire/in danger of catching fire (fuel leak and sparks as an example), better get the poor injured bastard out of the car before he goes up in flames even if it makes a possible neck injury worse.

More often than not that one is "Oh fuck the car is on fire IT'S GOING TO EXPLODE RUN FOR YOUR LIFE" and the people inside burn to death. Videogame and movie depictions of car fires cost lives.

 

[stupidpieceofshit]

More often than not that one is "Oh fuck the car is on fire IT'S GOING TO EXPLODE RUN FOR YOUR LIFE" and the people inside burn to death. Videogame and movie depictions of car fires cost lives.

Sure yes there is that, I was working on the idea of a "rational person" who knows a car 99.99999% of the time won't have a fireball let alone an explosion.

 

[muh_moobs]

UN in the discussion is irreverent (because in terms of US policy they are irrelevant the US is a P5 member of the Security console which means they can auto veto any resolution that attacks the US), hence why I never said shit about the UN.

Article 2 Section 3 of the US Constitution deals with Treason


Although yes the protesters (peaceful and non-peaceful) keep citing the Geneva convention (Which wouldn't apply anyways because that is for international warfare, not a civil war), and using termonolgy used in war (e.g. occupation zone) Do we really want to open that can of worms, even more so since only police (civilian law enforcement) has been used to to this point en mass and state activated national guard (not federally activated national guard), it is hard to call it "levying war".

Yes I agree they are traitors to the Union but the rule of law must be followed, if the rule of law is not, it only gives the government more ability to call people who just simply disagree with the State on some law or policy to call them traitor and Gitmo them. This is not a good thing, What if a Commie becomes president, do we want them to use the same excuse Trump would use to Gitmo people in CHAZ, even if its actual peaceful protest? (not occupy zones, not throwing shit at the police) History shows us the Fed likes to expand its powers, it will use any excuse it can use, and although yes CHAZ/CHOP needs to/needed to be dealt with, we can not abandoned the rule of law, for our own sakes in the future.

That's what the 2A is for. George Washington believed revolutions would happen every 10-20 years. Yes, expansion of government power (at any level) is bad, but the Patriot Act is still in play, and Obama already set the precedent in law that US citizens engaged in terrorist activity don't have a right to due process. He's not known as President Drone-Strike for nothing. This is an extraordinary threat the US is facing, and it requires an extraordinary solution.

If this continues to escalate, the US Constitution and the US Bill of Rights won't matter anyways once the government breaks down. I'm a Libertarian and value individual freedom and responsibility above all else, but I see this threat for what it is, and failing to deal with this expeditiously and firmly leaves the very real possibility that America and all of its values as they stand today cease to exist.

I know as a foreigner my stake in the fight is diminished, but I cannot imagine a future where this continues that conflict doesn't spill across the border into Canada and seeing the trajectory being plotted for my own nation, I do not want to live in a world without the United States. When the last embers of liberty are snuffed out, there will no longer be a beacon of hope shining for the rest of the world to aspire to or be held against. The only nations positioned to fill such a power vacuum are China and Russia, and I don't want to live in that world.

As for UN bullshit, I agree it's irrelevant. I was just preempting the possible argument.

 

[stupidpieceofshit]

That's what the 2A is for. George Washington believed revolutions would happen every 10-20 years. Yes, expansion of government power (at any level) is bad, but the Patriot Act is still in play, and Obama already set the precedent in law that US citizens engaged in terrorist activity don't have a right to due process. He's not known as President Drone-Strike for nothing. This is an extraordinary threat the US is facing, and it requires an extraordinary solution.

If this continues to escalate, the US Constitution and the US Bill of Rights won't matter anyways once the government breaks down. I'm a Libertarian and value individual freedom and responsibility above all else, but I see this threat for what it is, and failing to deal with this expeditiously and firmly leaves the very real possibility that America and all of its values as they stand today cease to exist.

I know as a foreigner my stake in the fight is diminished, but I cannot imagine a future where this continues that conflict doesn't spill across the border into Canada and seeing the trajectory being plotted for my own nation, I do not want to live in a world without the United States. When the last embers of liberty are snuffed out, there will no longer be a beacon of hope shining for the rest of the world to aspire to or be held against. The only nations positioned to fill such a power vacuum are China and Russia, and I don't want to live in that world.

As for UN bullshit, I agree it's irrelevant. I was just preempting the possible argument.

Yes that is what the 2A is for, and yes I do see what is going as a threat, I also can agree with your "as a foreigner" concerns about the loss of the US as it stands in international politics. In political Science there is a theory about why the world hasn't jumped in to a massive war since WW2, that is because most counties large countries have became some form democratic republic (along with MAD for NATO v Warsaw Pack), if the US turned to totalitarian/authoritative (and it would aslo as you said "no longer be a beacon of hope shining for the rest of the world" as you said), there is a greater chance that the US would want to start shit with Russia or China, or even "Hey Canada nice resources you got there, you're annexed"
If you look at the Wars the US (and NATO) have been involved in they mostly have been against non democratic or republics (and I don't mean "people's republic of.." bullshit when I say democratic or republic) governments.

As a foreigner you might not have a stake in this directly per sey, but in terms of Realpolitiks and "what happens should the US fall or turns in to something but a Democratic Republic" you have a stake in, even more so because we share a border and are basically if you will "brothers" (even if the Frenchies are a bit weird) in terms of culture yes there are differences but even the most "MURICA FUCK YEAH MURICA NUMBA 1" I have talked to and interacted with has good thoughts and feelings for our neighbors to the north. We never have forgotten how you aided us on 9/11 and took in our citizens who were stranded and gave them food, shelter and, comfort.

We may disagree on how far things should be done, but I have enjoyed this discourse, and I would never say "You're not an American get out" because having outsides views do add additional nuance to political discourse which is often not appreciated as much as it should be.

 

[Garm]

Is Styx the secret mascot of the farms or something? I remember a kiwi once commented "it's not a real thread until someone posts Styx" and boy were they right. Don't get me wrong I like it. But it feels odd. I hadn't even heard of the guy before the farms.



By my experience. At best they MIGHT have paid close attention during the first aid training part of their driving licence. Usually its just a buncha uni students from biological fields, not always related to anything medical. Lotsa botanists for some reason.

Honestly either way for first aid having common sense and some very basic concepts is usually enough anyway. You don't need studies to get why Recovery Position is called that way, or that moving the head of someone that might've hit it is stupid, or knowing how to make tourniquets and bandages. If you don't know those you are not a functional human being. But Ancoms aren't exactly functional people with common sense now are they...

Besides, really most "medic" work is just hoarding water bottles for all the fucking heatstrokes and having a phone to call the cops/EMTs if shit goes real. Anyone can do that, and if you're doing things well and cooperating properly it'll be enough. Of course, again, Ancoms. *Sigh* seriously why are these people alive. We humans have sinned by keeping natural selection for performing its most holy of duties. We allowed stupid to live. This is the price to pay!

I thought you were talking about the band for a minute.

 

[Crazedking]

That's what the 2A is for. George Washington believed revolutions would happen every 10-20 years. Yes, expansion of government power (at any level) is bad, but the Patriot Act is still in play, and Obama already set the precedent in law that US citizens engaged in terrorist activity don't have a right to due process. He's not known as President Drone-Strike for nothing. This is an extraordinary threat the US is facing, and it requires an extraordinary solution.

If this continues to escalate, the US Constitution and the US Bill of Rights won't matter anyways once the government breaks down. I'm a Libertarian and value individual freedom and responsibility above all else, but I see this threat for what it is, and failing to deal with this expeditiously and firmly leaves the very real possibility that America and all of its values as they stand today cease to exist.

I know as a foreigner my stake in the fight is diminished, but I cannot imagine a future where this continues that conflict doesn't spill across the border into Canada and seeing the trajectory being plotted for my own nation, I do not want to live in a world without the United States. When the last embers of liberty are snuffed out, there will no longer be a beacon of hope shining for the rest of the world to aspire to or be held against. The only nations positioned to fill such a power vacuum are China and Russia, and I don't want to live in that world.

As for UN bullshit, I agree it's irrelevant. I was just preempting the possible argument.

goddanm its real clown world when were at a point where the Patriot Act has to be almost praised. Its so fucked up.

 

[Cycleye]

I do not want to live in a world without the United States. When the last embers of liberty are snuffed out, there will no longer be a beacon of hope shining for the rest of the world to aspire to or be held against.

You need to get out more.

 

[muh_moobs]

I thought you were talking about the band for a minute.

Come sail away

 

[Sped Xing]

"Take away their rights! That could not possibly bode ill for my rights!"


--Both CHAZ and ITT. Not so different, you and me.

 

[Intensening Rapeye]

Whatever smash-hit US detection television series, that might have featured David Caruso, or Ted Damson was called. I can see autistic niggaz mad NCIS'ing n'shit, zoom and enhance on the nigga RAz Simone. Just lol.

He comes across as a narcissistic prick, who probably enjoys violent sex (the uncool kind). And I really unironically hope that he gets a severe fucking in the courts, or else what the fuck.