Chris and Barb sharing the same room....

[NiggoFiggo]

Actually im kinda of glad this happened (no alog) cause now every waking moment chris will really see how shitty his life is and when he tries to escape in. Cwcville there will be barb harping in his ear.

 

[DangDirtyTrolls]

Yeah, pretty much.

But do we know why? Like, does Barb think she'll keep him from getting arrested again if she keep an eye on him or is he just part of the hoard to her now?

Everyone has their own theories but AFAIK we don't actually know that much about Barb. Personally I get the idea she is a very clingy person. Bob and Barb lived practically separate lives but at least she had him there. Now Bob's gone so she's clinging onto Chris for dear life as he's basically the only person left in the world that cares about her. Would explain the hoarding too, but I doubt we'll ever really find out why for sure.

 

[Yawning Squirtle]

Maybe the hoard got so big they only have access to one room in the house.

Nah, Chris can physically get to other parts of the house, including his room.

But, uh, are we really 100% certain about this? I know some posts from the leak kinda pointed in that direction, but with Chris, many things get exaggerated by people. Maybe they share the same room a lot, specially since the house is hoarded, and occasionally they spoon together, but are we really sure they are in the same room together 24/7 (minus when Chris gets out to pick up food and stuff)?

Yeah, pretty much.

That's terrible. No wonder he feels like shit. His life wasn't all that great to begin with, and now this. I feel kinda bad for him, too.

 

[Some JERK]

"Everyday of our lives, you and I both pay a price for our parents' selfishness. Bob and Barbara pay a bigger price. They are the lonely and tortured people that they imagined their enemies to be. That is a curse that I would not wish on my worst enemy, especially not my own family."
-Cole Smithey.

I'm guessing that's essentially true. She has no friends, Cole hates her, and Bob's dead. All she has now is Chris, who she's desperately clinging to, and he's not capable of getting away from her or avoiding her manipulations. I'm sure Chris was content to haunt his room all day far away from her, but she got lonely and bitched at him until he gave in and moved all of his vidya into her lair.

 

[Alec Benson Leary]

"They are the lonely and tortured people that they imagined their enemies to be."
-Cole Smithey

I wonder if Cole knew that those words would come to describe Chris equally as well as it does Borb.

 

[Some JERK]

"They are the lonely and tortured people that they imagined their enemies to be."
-Cole Smithey

I wonder if Cole knew that those words would come to describe Chris equally as well as it does Borb.

good point. i never really thought about that, but i'd be surprised if he was surprised.

 

[Marvin]

On another note, damn I'm glad my parents pretty much showed me the door at eighteen and made me stand on my own two feet.

Oh yeah, I got kicked out before I was 21, if memory serves. Though I grew up in foster care (family, but not my parents), so I lasted longer than I probably should've.

Yeah, pretty much.

But do we know why? Like, does Barb think she'll keep him from getting arrested again if she keep an eye on him or is he just part of the hoard to her now?

Most of the theories people mentioned are probably on target. I really don't buy the "chris getting arrested" theory mostly because it's a stretch. If she wasn't nuts and trying to hoard him, she could pretty easily achieve that goal by just keeping Chris on a short leash. She doesn't need to have him sleeping in the same room as her.

I agree with most of these theories, but I also just say that Barb's just nuts. I don't need to go much deeper than that.

 

[Null]

I don't think Cole every thinks about Chris, and I don't think he's ever cared about Chris. He never liked his mother and when she ran away with another man and had a baby with him, I'm pretty sure by that point Cole had completely disassociated with Barb, Bob, and Chris.

We love to base posts around hypothetical, like "What if Chris got kicked out?", or "Would Rocky help Chris if Barb died?", or "Would it be good for Chris to be in a group home?", but the most seriously unlikely situation is one where Cole does anything to help Chris.

 

[Prowldent]

Honestly, I feel really bad for Chris when it comes to this.

I do feel bad for him as well because of the way he's living. Granted, a lot of his problems are his own fault and we all swear up and down that we "have no more sympathy for Chris" whenever he says or does something terrible and/or offensive, but I can't help but still feel some sympathy for him. Chris wanted to have an idyllic life free of problems; little did he know that would become his greatest problem of all.

On another note, damn I'm glad my parents pretty much showed me the door at eighteen and made me stand on my own two feet.

I'll always have some degree of sympathy for him because of who his parents are/were and this news that his mom is becoming increasingly domineering just makes it worse. Then again, I've never hated Chris. I laugh at him, sure, and I think a lot of the stuff he says/does is just plain dumb and wrong but I have never felt any genuine ill will towards the man and don't really get why someone would. Like all of the A-Loggers, for example.

 

[Holdek]

She watches him play video games now too. That is mostly odd in the fact she has never given a fuck before. I doubt she's doing it out of concern and it may suggest he moved his PS3 into the same room as where they sleep. Considering Barb probably does nothing but stay in that room and watches TV may also mean Chris has to get permission to play his PS3 and listen Barb bitch as she watches. This may explain his interest in a vita game that is 95% based on adding PSN friends. It could afford him the fleeting illusion of making friends while not having Barb watch him.

I have a feeling Chris just brought his whole vidya apparatus including his big screen TV into that room, meaning there are probably two TVs going simultaneously: one for Chris, and one for Barb. Remember it's not just video games; he has an animation schedule he has to keep up with.

So much for being his own free bitch...

That photo could have been inspired by a variety of forces Chris believes is restricting him, including Barb.

Maybe the hoard got so big they only have access to one room in the house.

Nah, Chris can physically get to other parts of the house, including his room.

But, uh, are we really 100% certain about this? I know some posts from the leak kinda pointed in that direction, but with Chris, many things get exaggerated by people. Maybe they share the same room a lot, specially since the house is hoarded, and occasionally they spoon together, but are we really sure they are in the same room together 24/7 (minus when Chris gets out to pick up food and stuff)?

Yeah, pretty much.

Good Lord in heaven.

But do we know why? Like, does Barb think she'll keep him from getting arrested again if she keep an eye on him or is he just part of the hoard to her now?

I think there's a mutual exchange of benefit going on. Barb is using Chris as a substitute Bob (not sexually, as she and Bob didn't have sex for the 25 years prior to his death, according to Chris). And Chris gets affection, something he desperately wants in his lonely state, as well as a sense of motherly protection from a world he believes is out to get him and that he believes is the cause of his misery already, even though he simultaneously resents the restrictions on his freedom that come with these.

 

[Aristocrat]

It's not Barb's room, Chris isn't sleeping in Bob's old marriage-bed or anything. It's just one of the "public" rooms of the house that Chris and Barb now occupy. He still has physical access to his own room too but Barb won't let him hang around in there. Because she's a hoardy hoardy hoarder.

By all accounts Chris is utterly miserable with this arrangement. More so than usual, that is.

I wonder how Chris can blame all this on the trolls and Snyder when this is Barb doing it to him?

 

[Batman VS Tony Danza]

It's not Barb's room, Chris isn't sleeping in Bob's old marriage-bed or anything. It's just one of the "public" rooms of the house that Chris and Barb now occupy. He still has physical access to his own room too but Barb won't let him hang around in there. Because she's a hoardy hoardy hoarder.

By all accounts Chris is utterly miserable with this arrangement. More so than usual, that is.

I wonder how Chris can blame all this on the trolls and Snyder when this is Barb doing it to him?

Well, if it weren't for the trolls he'd have a heartsweet by now and he could go out.

 

[Totally Awesome]

Why doesn't Chris just use his tugboat money to move out?

 

[Count groudon]

Why doesn't Chris just use his tugboat money to move out?

Are you asking Chris to use his money wisely? but there's video games and toys to be bought!

 

[Da Pickle Monsta]

Why doesn't Chris just use his tugboat money to move out?

Are you asking Chris to use his money wisely? but there's video games and toys to be bought!

Not to mention that Chris has literally zero experience with using his money for necessities. Yes, Bob took some of his SSDI for "room and board," but the actual act of paying for life expenses was never hammered into him. All he knew is that he got a certain amount of money on or around the third of every month, his Dad took most of it, and he got to blow whatever the remainder was on whatever he wanted. Even incurring credit card debt just resulted in Bob paying it off, and leaving him with marginally less money the next month.

Chris has never had the "cause and effect" of budgeting ingrained in him. If he runs out of money, he just knows that he has to beg Mommy for some until the next month rolls around, and that's as far as the lesson's ever gone.

Chris can't move out from under Barb as he is now. It's like asking a bee colony to have a violent uprising against the queen bee. It's just not gonna happen.

 

[Some JERK]

Then again, I've never hated Chris. I laugh at him, sure, and I think a lot of the stuff he says/does is just plain dumb and wrong but I have never felt any genuine ill will towards the man and don't really get why someone would. Like all of the A-Loggers, for example.

I don't think there's any reason to hate Chris or wish harm on him. The A-loggers are basically not much better than Chris himself in that respect. Chris is a pretty terrible person, and it's entertaining to watch him fail. He also has this weird talent for taking any sympathy you may have for him in any moment, and making you regret ever feeling it. But honestly, with a few exceptions, he's done nothing at all to any of the people who follow him, and hating him is a pretty lame and immature overreaction. In fact, i think that most of us here would secretly love to watch him miraculously turn it all around somehow. (we all know he won't, but it'd be fucking riveting if he did.)

As for Cole, eh... i don't have a lot of sympathy for him. He admits that he could find out definitively who his father is (or rather, isn't) but just didn't want to pay for the DNA tests, so he's being a bit histrionic about the whole thing. Then again, he was talking to Chris, who was being Chris' usual inconsiderate, selfish self about the whole deal, so maybe he was just being a dick about it because Chris was irritating him.

 

[registereduser]

It's not Barb's room, Chris isn't sleeping in Bob's old marriage-bed or anything. It's just one of the "public" rooms of the house that Chris and Barb now occupy. He still has physical access to his own room too but Barb won't let him hang around in there. Because she's a hoardy hoardy hoarder.

By all accounts Chris is utterly miserable with this arrangement. More so than usual, that is.

I wonder how Chris can blame all this on the trolls and Snyder when this is Barb doing it to him?

The problem is that Barb has manipulated the situation so that Chris has to rely on Barb (and I mean from all the way back when Borb refused to get him help for his 'tism and basically trained him to be an unpleasant slob that can't connect to anybody other than Borb and can't take care of himself without Borb), and Chris knows that he relies on Barb, so he can't put any blame on her, even though she is the only one he can legitimately put any blame on other than himself. His need to blame shit on trolls is probably just some fucked up/idiotic defense mechanism so that he doesn't have to acknowledge that the one person he needs/loves is the one external person fucking his life up, and also so he doesn't have to acknowledge his own (limited) power to change the situation, because if he acknowledged that he had some power, he'd then have to acknowledge that he is the one that has to put the effort in to fix it.

 

[Holdek]

It's not Barb's room, Chris isn't sleeping in Bob's old marriage-bed or anything. It's just one of the "public" rooms of the house that Chris and Barb now occupy. He still has physical access to his own room too but Barb won't let him hang around in there. Because she's a hoardy hoardy hoarder.

By all accounts Chris is utterly miserable with this arrangement. More so than usual, that is.

I wonder how Chris can blame all this on the trolls and Snyder when this is Barb doing it to him?

Because Barb is telling Chris that it is the trolls' and Snyder's fault, not hers.

Also, Chris is [cwc]naive[/cwc], crazy, and stupid.

The problem is that Barb has manipulated the situation so that Chris has to rely on Barb (and I mean from all the way back when Borb refused to get him help for his 'tism and basically trained him to be an unpleasant slob that can't connect to anybody other than Borb and can't take care of himself without Borb), and Chris knows that he relies on Barb, so he can't put any blame on her, even though she is the only one he can legitimately put any blame on other than himself. His need to blame shit on trolls is probably just some fucked up/idiotic defense mechanism so that he doesn't have to acknowledge that the one person he needs/loves is the one external person fucking his life up, and also so he doesn't have to acknowledge his own (limited) power to change the situation, because if he acknowledged that he had some power, he'd then have to acknowledge that he is the one that has to put the effort in to fix it.

^This. And so much of this is probably happening on such a level that neither of them are aware of it.

Why doesn't Chris just use his tugboat money to move out?

I don't think Chris feels secure in his own financial ability or stability. Like, I think he probably believes if his mother decided to cut off his tugboat as retribution for moving out, she could. After all, it was his father who set it all up for him and he never learned the details of it.

 

[Hasharin]

Honestly, I feel really bad for Chris when it comes to this.

It is Barb that deserves some A-Logging.

So much for being his own free bitch...

He's Barb's bitch.

 

[Sonichoo]

Good Lord, I read the posts but I didn't put two and two together. I wonder if they're sharing the same bed, as well.
Seriously, has anybody thought to look for a social service in Virginia capable of contacting and sorting these two out?