Chris and Barb sharing the same room....

[Marvin]

Good Lord, I read the posts but I didn't put two and two together. I wonder if they're sharing the same bed, as well.
Seriously, has anybody thought to look for a social service in Virginia capable of contacting and sorting these two out?

They're both legal adults. I doubt anyone will bother with anything. The reason I say this is that for years people have tried to report the Chandlers to various authorities, with no results.

But yeah, I think if they had a bedroom, they might share a bed. But I have a feeling they're in the living room or something like that. They're probably sleeping on couches.

 

[Sonichoo]

Yeah, I didn't mean to refer to any sexual situation, just some general family counseling services or something. But yeah I do recall people have tried to get them some help in the past.

 

[Marvin]

Yeah, I didn't mean to refer to any sexual situation, just some general family counseling services or something. But yeah I do recall people have tried to get them some help in the past.

Oh no, I wasn't thinking that either. I can't tell if the incest references people make here are (really weird) jokes or if they're serious. Or maybe some mixture of the two? I don't know.

I don't think they can really make you go to something like counseling unless you committed a crime. I don't think anyone would care about their current state enough to get involved.

 

[GFYS]

Then again, I've never hated Chris. I laugh at him, sure, and I think a lot of the stuff he says/does is just plain dumb and wrong but I have never felt any genuine ill will towards the man and don't really get why someone would. Like all of the A-Loggers, for example.

I don't think there's any reason to hate Chris or wish harm on him.

Someone doesn't have to do shit to me, for me to dislike them for being a shitty person. Even if Chris wasn't a shitty person by every objective set of social standards, people don't need a reason to dislike someone or something.

I do genuinely dislike Chris. I do enjoy his misfortune. Some people can wiggle their ears. Some people can hate without the need for any justification. There ya go.

Barb moving upstairs might be out of necessity; either because of the hoard, infestations, weather, or damage to the house made those rooms uninhabitable. Perhaps her being upstairs, she's suddenly taken more interest in Chris' daily activities, which is why she lingers over him so much more. However, considering how deeply screwed up Barb appears to be, I'd be willing to accept this new predicament is because one of the thousands of bottles of ranch dressing in her hoard told her to. Bitch's nucking futs.

 

[Holdek]

Good Lord, I read the posts but I didn't put two and two together. I wonder if they're sharing the same bed, as well.
Seriously, has anybody thought to look for a social service in Virginia capable of contacting and sorting these two out?

They're both legal adults. I doubt anyone will bother with anything. The reason I say this is that for years people have tried to report the Chandlers to various authorities, with no results.

But yeah, I think if they had a bedroom, they might share a bed. But I have a feeling they're in the living room or something like that. They're probably sleeping on couches.

I think this is how Bob slept too, only in another room. Come to think of it I think the only one of them that actually slept in a bed was Chris.

I know this photo is old but I can't imagine things have changed that much in terms of how Barb sleeps.

Yeah, I didn't mean to refer to any sexual situation, just some general family counseling services or something. But yeah I do recall people have tried to get them some help in the past.

Oh no, I wasn't thinking that either. I can't tell if the incest references people make here are (really weird) jokes or if they're serious. Or maybe some mixture of the two? I don't know.

I don't think they can really make you go to something like counseling unless you committed a crime. I don't think anyone would care about their current state enough to get involved.

When people used to make accusations that Chris was fucking his mother, or that he masturbated to photos of her when she was younger, I just chalked that up to overly active imaginations and immaturity (there's some gross fan art on the CWCki related to this). Then I learned that they cuddle together and that Bob would get mad about that. That made my scratch my head. Then I learned that, post-Bob, the cuddling became regular and that they started sharing the same room. :?

I'm still 99% certain they aren't having sex with each other, but, Goddamn, come on, a woman cuddling with her 31-year-old son has some incestuous overtones to it.

 

[MY 405]

Yeah, I didn't mean to refer to any sexual situation, just some general family counseling services or something. But yeah I do recall people have tried to get them some help in the past.

Oh no, I wasn't thinking that either. I can't tell if the incest references people make here are (really weird) jokes or if they're serious. Or maybe some mixture of the two? I don't know.

I don't think they can really make you go to something like counseling unless you committed a crime. I don't think anyone would care about their current state enough to get involved.

Generally, no. It is a legal process that would render court mandated counseling, or if you were entering a health/mental or otherwise state-funded program there would most likely be an intake evaluation. I remember Chris using some buzzwords before their plea agreement last year that sounded like they were straight out of a counseling session (something about him being mad at Barb for exceeding his 'hurtful truth level' and telling her so in a discussion), but that looks like it's obviously fallen by the wayside.

Also, as a local Christorian, can you divulge: Is Ruckersville a city unto itself. If not it falls under the jurisdiction of the county sheriffs and not a local PD. Rural counties are big and require a lot of time and manpower to patrol. Also sheriffs have jurisdition over any city falling in their county limits as well -- but they usually don't want to start up that mess and leave it to the city in question to deal with. With no stretch of the imagination can I see the Greene Co. Sheriffs and the Cville PD going: "Ooooh, the Chandlers again? They did WHAT? WHERE? Oh, thank god, that's not OUR problem!" This can also mean the the sheriff's dept may have little goodies on the Chandlers that local PD has never seen and vice versa. hmmmmmmm.

 

[Holdek]

In terms of counseling, Chris made a Facebook post or maybe it was a leaked e-mail where he referred to a "conflict resolution session" with Barb or something therapy-speak, which makes me think they got involved in some counseling. It was post-sentencing, so maybe something court-mandated in terms of Chris' psych. eval., but more likely a session with Rocky, even though I thought Barb basically wasn't involved with Rocky. Maybe she changed on that after Rocky bailed her out of jail though.

In any event, some voluntary therapy would be good for these two. And I think that's an understatement.

 

[MY 405]

In terms of counseling, Chris made a Facebook post or maybe it was a leaked e-mail where he referred to a "conflict resolution session" with Barb or something therapy-speak, which makes me think they got involved in some counseling. It was post-sentencing, so maybe something court-mandated in terms of Chris' psych. eval., but more likely a session with Rocky, even though I thought Barb basically wasn't involved with Rocky. Maybe she changed on that after Rocky bailed her out of jail though.

In any event, some voluntary therapy would be good for these two. And I think that's an understatement.[/quote

This is exactly the entry I was thinking of. I thought it had happened after the charges had been filed but before the final court date last July, but that is the wording I was thinking of, that "out of psych 101 'And how did it make you feel, Christian, when your mother said that, hmmm?'

From a realm of experience I can tell you that these two need serious grief counseling over Bob's loss -- his depression and despair are blatant in his posts, and they remind me so much of my own meltdown when I lost my father. I was not equipped to deal with the unbelievable amount of guilt and sorrow that finally caught up to me after he passed away and it was months later when it hit. I am nowhere near Chris in my circumstances and I honestly believe that he and Barb are using this single room situation like a life raft of grief and the only solidarity they believe they have is each other.

I know that White Knighting is unfashionable, but I wish them a way to find a decent grief counseling program and the appropriate course of treatment of words and antidepressants to get them through this. I spent six weeks never leaving my home under these exact mental circumstances, I was in physical pain and drowning in sadness over what was left undone. Thank God I found the right help and a doctor who listened to me, I honestly do believe they saved my life. I wish I could tell the Chandlers the same thing.

I shall now remove my armour and stable my destrier. Flame all you would like now.

 

[teheviltwin]

I know that White Knighting is unfashionable, but I wish them a way to find a decent grief counseling program and the appropriate course of treatment of words and antidepressants to get them through this. I spent six weeks never leaving my home under these exact mental circumstances, I was in physical pain and drowning in sadness over what was left undone. Thank God I found the right help and a doctor who listened to me, I honestly do believe they saved my life. I wish I could tell the Chandlers the same thing.

There are a few real problems there. Blarb has refused to allow Chris the help he needs his entire life, she seems to have a serious fear of psychologist and psychiatrists.

This is something that probably wont be hugely popular. Personally I do think that Chris really misses having Bob around because they used to do a lot of things together and his death has left a large hole in Chris's life. However, I don't think that he misses him out of love because Chris has no concept of other people being separate entities in their own right. I think Bob gave him some structure to his days but if Chris had other people to fill that void he wouldn't be hugely bothered that it wasn't his Father.

 

[MY 405]

I know that White Knighting is unfashionable, but I wish them a way to find a decent grief counseling program and the appropriate course of treatment of words and antidepressants to get them through this. I spent six weeks never leaving my home under these exact mental circumstances, I was in physical pain and drowning in sadness over what was left undone. Thank God I found the right help and a doctor who listened to me, I honestly do believe they saved my life. I wish I could tell the Chandlers the same thing.

There are a few real problems there. Blarb has refused to allow Chris the help he needs his entire life, she seems to have a serious fear of psychologist and psychiatrists.

This is something that probably wont be hugely popular. Personally I do think that Chris really misses having Bob around because they used to do a lot of things together and his death has left a large hole in Chris's life. However, I don't think that he misses him out of love because Chris has no concept of other people being separate entities in their own right. I think Bob gave him some structure to his days but if Chris had other people to fill that void he wouldn't be hugely bothered that it wasn't his Father.

I hear ya', and I totally agree with you. I just wish they would recognize this and find some help, but I know I'm in the minority on this one. Believe me, I'd much rather see him zooming his car over his PS3 for virtual troll prize bucks than facepalming with his newest shade of Wet N' Wild half-chewed off his nails.

 

[teheviltwin]

I hear ya', and I totally agree with you. I just wish they would recognize this and find some help, but I know I'm in the minority on this one. Believe me, I'd much rather see him zooming his car over his PS3 for virtual troll prize bucks than facepalming with his newest shade of Wet N' Wild half-chewed off his nails.

Unfortunately, Chris needs a lot of therapy in order to understand that he needs therapy.

 

[MY 405]

I hear ya', and I totally agree with you. I just wish they would recognize this and find some help, but I know I'm in the minority on this one. Believe me, I'd much rather see him zooming his car over his PS3 for virtual troll prize bucks than facepalming with his newest shade of Wet N' Wild half-chewed off his nails.

Unfortunately, Chris needs a lot of therapy in order to understand that he needs therapy.

Couldn't have said it better.

 

[Zim]

Therapy is out of the question for these two. It's not that they probably don't need it in a major way, it's that they just frankly wouldn't do it even if it was given to them for free and all transportation was provided.

They are sort of a rare instance where a situation that would normally be hidden from the public is completely on display for those who are curious.

By the way, is Chris still paying room and hoard out of his tug boat or was that just a Bob thing?

 

[Some JERK]

Someone doesn't have to do shit to me, for me to dislike them for being a shitty person. Even if Chris wasn't a shitty person by every objective set of social standards, people don't need a reason to dislike someone or something.

there's a big difference between disliking someone and hating them or wishing physical harm on them. We all dislike Chris. That's why we're here.

 

[Marvin]

Barb moving upstairs might be out of necessity; either because of the hoard, infestations, weather, or damage to the house made those rooms uninhabitable. Perhaps her being upstairs, she's suddenly taken more interest in Chris' daily activities, which is why she lingers over him so much more. However, considering how deeply screwed up Barb appears to be, I'd be willing to accept this new predicament is because one of the thousands of bottles of ranch dressing in her hoard told her to. Bitch's nucking futs.

Not that it changes the meaning of what you said, but Barb didn't move upstairs. Chris moved to where ever she sleeps. Holdek's picture is probably what you can imagine their current sleeping arrangements are like. Chris' room is still usable and probably cleaner than where they are now.

Also, as a local Christorian, can you divulge: Is Ruckersville a city unto itself. If not it falls under the jurisdiction of the county sheriffs and not a local PD. Rural counties are big and require a lot of time and manpower to patrol. Also sheriffs have jurisdition over any city falling in their county limits as well -- but they usually don't want to start up that mess and leave it to the city in question to deal with. With no stretch of the imagination can I see the Greene Co. Sheriffs and the Cville PD going: "Ooooh, the Chandlers again? They did WHAT? WHERE? Oh, thank god, that's not OUR problem!" This can also mean the the sheriff's dept may have little goodies on the Chandlers that local PD has never seen and vice versa. hmmmmmmm.

In Virginia, the cities are independent cities, which means they're county level entities. And no, Ruckersville isn't incorporated, so it's just part of whatever county it's in.

In terms of counseling, Chris made a Facebook post or maybe it was a leaked e-mail where he referred to a "conflict resolution session" with Barb or something therapy-speak, which makes me think they got involved in some counseling. It was post-sentencing, so maybe something court-mandated in terms of Chris' psych. eval., but more likely a session with Rocky, even though I thought Barb basically wasn't involved with Rocky. Maybe she changed on that after Rocky bailed her out of jail though.

Oh, I don't think Barb went to a session with Rocky. Hell, it's iffy if Chris would. He might sometimes, if Rocky suggested it specifically, and if he could wriggle away from Barb for a few hours.

By the way, is Chris still paying room and hoard out of his tug boat or was that just a Bob thing?

Y'know, I could've sworn I had information that would have an answer to this (and more ) and I also could've sworn that it was a facebook post. But I can't find it. So either it's private info or it's a facebook post that either didn't get leaked or I keep passing over it for some reason.

 

[Henry Bemis]

Double post:

By the way, is Chris still paying room and hoard out of his tug boat or was that just a Bob thing?

Y'know, I could've sworn I had information that would have an answer to this (and more ) and I also could've sworn that it was a facebook post. But I can't find it. So either it's private info or it's a facebook post that either didn't get leaked or I keep passing over it for some reason.

Very likely, that's still in place. Barb ain't gonna let throw away a couple hundred in room and board just because Bob died.

 

[Marvin]

Double post:

By the way, is Chris still paying room and hoard out of his tug boat or was that just a Bob thing?

Y'know, I could've sworn I had information that would have an answer to this (and more ) and I also could've sworn that it was a facebook post. But I can't find it. So either it's private info or it's a facebook post that either didn't get leaked or I keep passing over it for some reason.

Very likely, that's still in place. Barb ain't gonna let throw away a couple hundred in room and board just because Bob died.

Well things got all flipped around after Bob died, so while she might still be claiming room and board, she had to have gone out of her way to reinstate it again. It's possible, but I wouldn't assume she's still getting it.

 

[Tubular Monkey]

His need to blame shit on trolls is probably just some fucked up/idiotic defense mechanism so that he doesn't have to acknowledge that the one person he needs/loves is the one external person fucking his life up, and also so he doesn't have to acknowledge his own (limited) power to change the situation, because if he acknowledged that he had some power, he'd then have to acknowledge that he is the one that has to put the effort in to fix it.

Barb seems to have massive paranoia and a huge persecution complex. I think she believes things " 'cause they ought'a be true." Her son is a mental defective who believes anything that is said with conviction. Her insanity informs his stupidity. If Bob had told Chris with complete surety that the president had been replaced by an insect that can change its shape at will, Chris would not only have believed it, but he'd have blamed the trolls for it. He hates the word, but the one that describes him best is naive. He bought the gospel according to Borb lock stock and barrel, and it would take years of professional help to budge him from it.

Maybe the hoard got so big they only have access to one room in the house.

But, uh, are we really 100% certain about this? I know some posts from the leak kinda pointed in that direction, but with Chris, many things get exaggerated by people. Maybe they share the same room a lot, specially since the house is hoarded, and occasionally they spoon together, but are we really sure they are in the same room together 24/7 (minus when Chris gets out to pick up food and stuff)?

There's already enough anecdotal evidence of what is going on to confirm it as extremely creepy and wrong.

 

[IcyHotWings]

I'm not entirely sure how all this works, but I would assume when Bob went, so did his retirement, leaving Chris' tugboat and Barb's retirement, if she gets any in the first place, and even then I'm not entirely sure Barb's retirement would be as much as Bob's since he was an engineer and she was just an office worker among many others. I actually think Chris might be having to pitch in even more than previous.

 

[Himawari]

I'm not entirely sure how all this works, but I would assume when Bob went, so did his retirement, leaving Chris' tugboat and Barb's retirement, if she gets any in the first place, and even then I'm not entirely sure Barb's retirement would be as much as Bob's since he was an engineer and she was just an office worker among many others. I actually think Chris might be having to pitch in even more than previous.

I'm not 100% sure - I work at a bank, but I'm just a front-end teller, I don't work on any serious financial stuff - but I think any retirement funds that Bob had left in his IRA or whatnot would have been transferred into an estate account upon his death, with probably Barb as the beneficiary. She probably would have had to go into the bank with his death certificate in order for this to happen (I think that's how it is at our bank, at least), though, and I'm split on whether this would have happened. On the one hand, money, but on the other hand, effort and leaving the hoard... hmm...

Again, this isn't the sort of thing I work on, IRAs are not the sorts of accounts I ever touch except on very, very rare occasions. Take whatever information I'm saying with a grain of salt, this is just stuff I've picked up from overhearing the CSRs talk about it over the years.