Chris Avellone MeToo'd

In other news, I fucked up my very first attempt at making a thread on Kiwi Farms by posting a thread on the lawsuit to Prospering Grounds instead of Talk to Staff.

Oh well, it's probably gonna get rejected for not being related enough to lolcows anyway.
 
Even an innocent man can still be blacklisted.
Yeah I doubt Chris will ever be let back into the industry proper. I mean according Jim "Stephanie" Sterling Ubisoft should have immediately called Chris and gave him full control over a 200 Million+ AAA video game.

Still I'm glad the guy is at least fighting to protect some of his legacy as being a pivotal creative mind in CRPGs. If Chris decides to write some novels I'd want to read it and I'm sure many Fallout/Planescape fans would too. Here's hoping this isn't the last we've heard from Chris as a Sci-Fi creator.
 
Does this mean that we might get more Avellone games in the future?
No. It won't ever happen. Even if he is able to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt it's all bullshit. The backlash from retards on Twitter going "THE JUSTICE SYSTEM IS FLAWED, THIS PROVES NOTHING" would be far too much for any big developer to take a chance. I think he'd have a chance at getting work under a nom de plume, but companies know that if anybody ever discovered they worked with Avellone, it's over.

Game journalists are bad, they don't admit when they are wrong (when do you see corrections on game journo shit?) and they will never go to bat for someone they have already decided is guilty of all crimes.
 
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Really fucking sucks that one of gaming's best writer's career is already over and it says it all.

What was his last project to be released?
 
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No. It won't ever happen. Even if he is able to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt it's all bullshit. The backlash from retards on Twitter going "THE JUSTICE SYSTEM IS FLAWED, THIS PROVES NOTHING" would be far too much for any big developer to take a chance. I think he'd have a chance at getting work under a nom de plume, but companies know that if anybody ever discovered they worked with Avellone, it's over.

Game journalists are bad, they don't admit when they are wrong (when do you see corrections on game journo shit?) and they will never go to bat for someone they have already decided is guilty of all crimes.
At some point they need to realize that the people using Twitter are an extremely small minority. Never gonna happen, though.
 
At some point they need to realize that the people using Twitter are an extremely small minority. Never gonna happen, though.
Well, let's not be too cynical, Myspace was once on top of the world and now no one even remembers it existed.
 
Sounds like he has an even worse uphill battle than Vic did given his initial actions. But even if he loses, I think inflicting misery and anxiety on these scummy accusers via the stress a lawsuit brings is a decent consolation prize since false accusers deserve every ounce of suffering they can get. More lawsuits from the falsely accused is always a good thing.
 
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He did file a lawsuit, though.
Sounds like he used the past year to prepare for that, and the whole "allow voices to be heard" takes on a different note when he explicitly wants his accusers to talk more, suggesting that they'll fuck themselves up.
Good.
 
More prominent people need to speak out against this shit, preferably before they get canceled themselves.
There was that public letter last year where numerous famous people spoke out against it. You might remember they were all immediately dismissed as alt-right monsters, and because JK Rowling was one of the signatories everyone else on the list was labeled a massive transphobe as well.

I think for now the best we're getting are people from non-English speaking countries who don't give a fuck and ignore or bait those REEEEEEEEEing. Ignoring them doesn't work because it lets their narrative take over. Trying to be reasonable is a very difficult long-term strategy, since these are not reasonable people and it's incredibly tempting to just go off on them even once, which they use as proof of your monstrousness - but the payoff can be quite good in convincing observers just how idiotic and crazy these people are.

But mocking them, dismissing their concerns, and getting on with your life seems to have the highest satisfaction/success ratio. They hate being laughed at, they hate being told no, and they hate people who ignore them. The recent incident with one of the main guys behind Factorio is a decent example; he engaged too much, but he's basically told the assholes coming for him that he doesn't care, and they hate it - but in trying to review-bomb him on Steam and come after him online, they've also shown not only how much bullshit they spew (he magically became a transphobe as well, despite never mentioning troons, just because everyone these people disagree with is a transphobe) but just how few of them they are.

The part about companies being too scared of being canceled is the real worry, because as long as that's true all it takes is one person determined to lie and with even a tiny, tiny platform, and all of a sudden your livelihood is ruined. Until something is done about that, people are still going to lose jobs and careers because of this bullshit. But that requires corporations to act opposite to their nature and also ignore any dangerhairs in HR, so that's going to be one of the real struggles, I think.

At the end of the day, though, I'm always glad for people who stand up to these kind of lies. Unfortunately, as things like Weeb Wars and Johnny Depp show, no matter how good a case you have you can still lose, and have to hope for the appeals process to work.
 
Does this mean that we might get more Avellone games in the future?
Doubtful given the infamy surrounding him, even if he proves he's innocent people'll still despise him.

In the very remote chance that companies do reach out to him, I doubt he'd work with Obsidian given his unpleasant experiences with the management there, but he might with Bethesda to get a chance to work on Fallout again (so long as he stays away from the West Coast or does an early game like Fallout 76, I'd be cool with that).
 
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I watched Racket's stream about Avellone's statements, and it leaves me really torn.
On the one hand, I love some of the games he worked on, especially KOTOR 2.
On the other, he handled everything like a complete cuck, it is really quite embarassing. All the fucking shit about "letting their voices be heard" or "not apologizing or legal steps are just not in my character" really shows that he used to be atleast somewhat on the fringes of the woke crowd.
That he whiteknighted the companies that immediately threw him under the bus, and even absolved them from any responsibility by defending how they "had no choice" was really pathetic. He pretty much admitted to being a sex pest without admitting to it, and now, a year later, he sues?
Hand it to Vic, he denied the accusations of sexual assault from the beginning, only apologizing for being a diva and hugging fans.
That's right, gay pants wearing, constantly crying, emotional italian boyo Vic handled this with WAY more spine and big dick energy than one of the most beloved writers in the huge vidya industry.
I hate to say it, but he really worked so hard to support his cancelers, that I can't really root for him now. Sorry Chris, but your journal update took too long.
 
Some porn autist recognized one of Chris's accusers. That Jackie girl he was seeing is an amateur porn star. She fucked James Deen, who himself was accused of sexual misconduct and rape by multiple women in 2015.

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But what's the last one that actually got released?
Apparently Star Wars: Fallen Order of all things.

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Huh, so Riot Games hires pornstars.
This explains so much.
 
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Why she looks like danger hair Kate McKinnon?
 
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