spylobster
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Chris Chan Documentary.
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It'll get around, just like the gif of his "My Mind is Blank" drawing. He'll probably stumble upon it sometime.
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I'm sure some troll would send it to him eventually, but he'll probably think a little bit about the benefits he may get from your message of anti bullying before picking your video apart and demeaning you anyway.
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That seems kind of optimistic.
spylobster
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Your right, Sense the documentary is mostly neutral if Chris saw it as a movie sympathizing him he would boast it like finally someone understands his situation.
I just got an email from the vid teacher. He said "Man o man. Stop in tomorrow. Just fantastic"
This could mean it was good to him, or it a trap for me to get into his office and be netted and shipped off to the funny farm.
Either way I will try and record his thoughts.
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Just watched this dude. I haven't read all the comments here but I just want to give you more props for doing this, and I'm glad you were very adamant about the "non-stance" you were taking, especially for a school project. I'm sure this has been mentioned but it's definitely worth mentioning that he's all but stopped drawing Sonichu comics nowadays in the aftermath of the Asperchu thing.
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spylobster
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Yep, Im on cwcSee if you can record his reaction so you can use it as a DVD extra.
This is not set in stone, I care too much about the story to leave it that standard of quality. I will revisit it with my knew found knowledge along with the support of the community. Also I have a little bit of money saved up and plan on buying a good quality microphone for future videos along with the chanamentuary.
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i can't believe someone made an hour+ long documentary of christian weston chandler and i can't believe i actually watched it and i'll probably watch it again. good job
the ending song is beautifully fitting in the funniest/saddest way possible
the ending song is beautifully fitting in the funniest/saddest way possible
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Somehow I thought the end credits would run through a montage of our fanart pics but I guess not (thought I could spot mine, but figured it was out of the PG territory you were going for, so that's OK).
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Since this is for a high school class - don't waste any more effort. Submit it. get the grade and work on it it later. Also - don't go into this trying to impress anyone at school (or here). A proper discussion of Chris and the effect that he's made on the internet and vice-versa would take a master's thesis,AND given the current, hysterical, high school climate wrt online bullying etc, you're probably gonna face some serious, personal criticism as to you're choice of subject matter. Get ready for that.
I guess I'm saying - be aware. This is a closed community that understands itself. It does not, in any way, pretend to represent the current social zeitgeist. Share this with people you trust for now. Don't become you're own worst troll - not unlike a certain namesake.
I say, take the cudos you get here and finish school. When you move on, pick the project up and then make it perfect. If anyone is going to explain the complexities of Chris - it could very well be you.
Stay safe and have a good day.
I guess I'm saying - be aware. This is a closed community that understands itself. It does not, in any way, pretend to represent the current social zeitgeist. Share this with people you trust for now. Don't become you're own worst troll - not unlike a certain namesake.
I say, take the cudos you get here and finish school. When you move on, pick the project up and then make it perfect. If anyone is going to explain the complexities of Chris - it could very well be you.
Stay safe and have a good day.
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You keep saying "manneurisms" instead of "mannerisms"
I disagree with your assertion that Bob felt special needs didn't go beyond straight jackets and lobotomies. There is nothing that I know of that backs this claim up. I think if anything they refused to consider special needs of Chris and felt that he was normal yet troubled at that time. Later on they accepted the diagnosis of "high functioning autism."
Use of the term "gal-pals" seems out of character for the narrator. You should establish this is one of Chris's phrases, or just drop it all together.
I really like your editing.
I know you mentioned some audio issues with your equipment. It seems like the highs aren't getting through. Did you run a low pass on it?
I may be lost on my Christory but I don't think he sang "it's ok to be gay" during the Miyamoto saga.
Overall this is a great video imho. Especially for someone your age. If anyone needs a ~1 hour introduction to Christory it is a great starting point. I really hope you get a good grade on this.
I disagree with your assertion that Bob felt special needs didn't go beyond straight jackets and lobotomies. There is nothing that I know of that backs this claim up. I think if anything they refused to consider special needs of Chris and felt that he was normal yet troubled at that time. Later on they accepted the diagnosis of "high functioning autism."
Use of the term "gal-pals" seems out of character for the narrator. You should establish this is one of Chris's phrases, or just drop it all together.
I really like your editing.
I know you mentioned some audio issues with your equipment. It seems like the highs aren't getting through. Did you run a low pass on it?
I may be lost on my Christory but I don't think he sang "it's ok to be gay" during the Miyamoto saga.
Overall this is a great video imho. Especially for someone your age. If anyone needs a ~1 hour introduction to Christory it is a great starting point. I really hope you get a good grade on this.
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I saw the whole thing. Excellent job. I thought you nailed all the parts that makes Chris fascinating overall. Keep up the great work.
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I guess I'll leave my review in the pile. I don't know anything about filmmaking, so I'm only able to review this as an ordinary viewer.
As a high school project, I thought it was pretty impressive. It was rough around the edges, but I was able to overlook this. My favorite part was intercutting Liquid and Solid kung-fu fighting. You seem to have caught most of his best video moments. I thought your overall conclusion that he's a "trainwreck" was appropriate--it is perhaps the most common metaphor for the situation. I thought it was great that you found video of the Sonic contest that Chris won.
I guess my biggest problem was your pussying out on taking a stand. You say there's "no good or bad side." You say there's "no blame." Worst of all, you say you're going to be "unbiased." Sorry, but this all spells "cop-out" to me.
As part and parcel of this, you shy away from assigning causation. You say he's autistic, but then you seem to say that the trolls have "wrecked his life" and deserve some blame. Then you say Chris is an object lesson for not ending up like him. This is muddled and unclear. I would have liked to see a clearer "nature vs. nurture" argument here. The number one thing you needed your teacher interview for was to ask the question, "WHAT IS AUTISM?" People need to know how this disability causes people to act in certain ways. This can help us figure out to what extent Chris is an asshole when he calls people "nigger" and "Jew." I never saw a clear attempt to answer the question, "Why is Chris this way?"
You seem to take Chris at his word about the so-called abusive babysitter and his elementary school. Chris is an UNRELIABLE NARRATOR. We have absolutely no idea what happened here, but you call Chris a "victim" and allow him to get away with calling the staff at his elementary school "abusive." This isn't fair to the people who are working there today. Chris and both of his parents are fucking nuts. They are delusional. You need to clarify that this is Chris's interpretation of events, and part of his victim-complex.
Related to this, you also seem to take Chris's point of view concerning the trolls. You say a couple times that they were trying to "wreck his life." Really? If this is true, why? You do very little to explain the trolls' motivations. At the end you talk about the welfare issue, but it might have been more helpful to insert this into the narrative at the point when the trolling begins. I'm most disappointed that you glossed over the aspects of Chris that got on people's nerves--his egotism, his narcissism, his arrogance, his homophobia, his sexism. From the trolls' perspective, he deserved it. Moreover, I would argue that many of these early trolls were trying not to "wreck his life," but to change him for the better, by teaching him a lesson. Their hope was that public humiliation would cause him to rethink his life and stop being such an asshole. Clyde actually says this to Chris as he's sitting there with the medallion up his ass, and I think he's being sincere. Maybe they were wrong for blaming an autistic person for his behaviors, but nevertheless this is what the belief structure of many (but not all) of these trolls.
If this sounds too apologetic, I also think you should have talked about the medallion up the ass incident and his driving to Ohio, as these were the most outrageous instances of trolling which could have caused him real harm. I think you skipped these because, again, you're too afraid of taking a stand.
Your determination to make the heart of the documentary "just the facts" made things dry and disjointed. You were too intent on including all the sagas, and as a result you were not really able to give any of them the attention they deserved. You had such a hard-on for maintaining "neutrality" that you didn't really explain the significance of these sagas. I was disappointed at your summary of the Megan drawing. You should have skipped some sagas and used a few as samples to illustrate his life. The body of the documentary just skips along the surface of the sagas and it's frustrating.
Your great summary of all the public attention Chris has gotten should have gone at the BEGINNING of the documentary. That gives your viewer a reason to care. You do say that he's a famous personality, but all those numbers are impressive. It really captures the attention.
Chris's bizarre sexual confusion is, for me, the most interesting thing about him, and you really glossed over it. You don't even point out the paradox of a homophobe becoming a crossdresser, and you don't even mention that he now identifies as transgender (I don't think).
The close-up on the word "dicks" was dumb.
Others will probably point out your factual errors--the biggest is that you conflate two Snyder incidents. Your script also makes it seem as if Megan was interested in Chris as a boyfriend, which is absolutely not true.
I like Portal as much as the next guy, but your choice of this song was totally baffling. It has nothing to do with Chris. Also, I imagine it's going to get your documentary kicked off YouTube for copyright infringement.
I'm sure this all sounds very critical, but on the whole I enjoyed the documentary, and I could never have done it myself, and you should be proud of your accomplishment.
As a high school project, I thought it was pretty impressive. It was rough around the edges, but I was able to overlook this. My favorite part was intercutting Liquid and Solid kung-fu fighting. You seem to have caught most of his best video moments. I thought your overall conclusion that he's a "trainwreck" was appropriate--it is perhaps the most common metaphor for the situation. I thought it was great that you found video of the Sonic contest that Chris won.
I guess my biggest problem was your pussying out on taking a stand. You say there's "no good or bad side." You say there's "no blame." Worst of all, you say you're going to be "unbiased." Sorry, but this all spells "cop-out" to me.
As part and parcel of this, you shy away from assigning causation. You say he's autistic, but then you seem to say that the trolls have "wrecked his life" and deserve some blame. Then you say Chris is an object lesson for not ending up like him. This is muddled and unclear. I would have liked to see a clearer "nature vs. nurture" argument here. The number one thing you needed your teacher interview for was to ask the question, "WHAT IS AUTISM?" People need to know how this disability causes people to act in certain ways. This can help us figure out to what extent Chris is an asshole when he calls people "nigger" and "Jew." I never saw a clear attempt to answer the question, "Why is Chris this way?"
You seem to take Chris at his word about the so-called abusive babysitter and his elementary school. Chris is an UNRELIABLE NARRATOR. We have absolutely no idea what happened here, but you call Chris a "victim" and allow him to get away with calling the staff at his elementary school "abusive." This isn't fair to the people who are working there today. Chris and both of his parents are fucking nuts. They are delusional. You need to clarify that this is Chris's interpretation of events, and part of his victim-complex.
Related to this, you also seem to take Chris's point of view concerning the trolls. You say a couple times that they were trying to "wreck his life." Really? If this is true, why? You do very little to explain the trolls' motivations. At the end you talk about the welfare issue, but it might have been more helpful to insert this into the narrative at the point when the trolling begins. I'm most disappointed that you glossed over the aspects of Chris that got on people's nerves--his egotism, his narcissism, his arrogance, his homophobia, his sexism. From the trolls' perspective, he deserved it. Moreover, I would argue that many of these early trolls were trying not to "wreck his life," but to change him for the better, by teaching him a lesson. Their hope was that public humiliation would cause him to rethink his life and stop being such an asshole. Clyde actually says this to Chris as he's sitting there with the medallion up his ass, and I think he's being sincere. Maybe they were wrong for blaming an autistic person for his behaviors, but nevertheless this is what the belief structure of many (but not all) of these trolls.
If this sounds too apologetic, I also think you should have talked about the medallion up the ass incident and his driving to Ohio, as these were the most outrageous instances of trolling which could have caused him real harm. I think you skipped these because, again, you're too afraid of taking a stand.
Your determination to make the heart of the documentary "just the facts" made things dry and disjointed. You were too intent on including all the sagas, and as a result you were not really able to give any of them the attention they deserved. You had such a hard-on for maintaining "neutrality" that you didn't really explain the significance of these sagas. I was disappointed at your summary of the Megan drawing. You should have skipped some sagas and used a few as samples to illustrate his life. The body of the documentary just skips along the surface of the sagas and it's frustrating.
Your great summary of all the public attention Chris has gotten should have gone at the BEGINNING of the documentary. That gives your viewer a reason to care. You do say that he's a famous personality, but all those numbers are impressive. It really captures the attention.
Chris's bizarre sexual confusion is, for me, the most interesting thing about him, and you really glossed over it. You don't even point out the paradox of a homophobe becoming a crossdresser, and you don't even mention that he now identifies as transgender (I don't think).
The close-up on the word "dicks" was dumb.
Others will probably point out your factual errors--the biggest is that you conflate two Snyder incidents. Your script also makes it seem as if Megan was interested in Chris as a boyfriend, which is absolutely not true.
I like Portal as much as the next guy, but your choice of this song was totally baffling. It has nothing to do with Chris. Also, I imagine it's going to get your documentary kicked off YouTube for copyright infringement.
I'm sure this all sounds very critical, but on the whole I enjoyed the documentary, and I could never have done it myself, and you should be proud of your accomplishment.
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I would have loved it if, right after Liquid's perfect imitation of Chris's mannerism through a diatribe, the documentary cuts directly to the video where Chris criticizes the same mannerism in complete unawareness that it is an imitation of himself.
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Trying not to wander too far OT here....
If you look at some of the pics of Chris and the gal pals (two in particular: the pic taken in the home economics class and the cafeteria pic) it's obvious that they're either not happy about being with Chris or not happy about having their photo taken with Chris (linking them to him?). Look at their body language, especially the expressions on their faces . It says it all.
The original information regarding the arrangement came from a gal pal I actually corresponded with for a brief time over email. The rest of the stuff, where that gal pals got stern, even nasty with Chris, that was all fake. (You'll notice the polite tone in the email quoted in the video.) The person I was corresponding with never made any particularly mean or nasty comments about Chris.
I'm currently looking for the original email so that I can corroborate this.. The email account I used for the correspondence is defunct and I haven't yet been able to find the uncensored original I posted to the old Private Discussion forum. (I have LOTS of emails to go through still and I haven't made much progress because I've been busy with work.)
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I made sure to read valves copywrite policy, its completely fine. Even if I put ads on the video. But I chose it because I felt it fit with Chris. Some people will move on past Chris while others will stay but eventually there will be a new generation of christorians to fill the places. But Chris on the other hand will never change.
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