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I think Chris has an IQ considerably lower than average partially due to his disorder and partially due to what I assume is general malnutrition and a very unhealthy sedentary lifestyle. Another thing is, Chris was not able to conceptualize foreign countries without having been there himself. These cognitive quirks were probably not ironed out properly so his heuristics and problem solving are completely fucked over due to the lack of proper intervention. The cognitive problems compounded on themselves over time. From birth to 25 years old is the crucial period to be building properly functioning neural pathways. This is most likely another contributing factor as to why he can be fooled and manipulated so easily.
 
The thing that surprised me the most about all this wasn't CWC- it was Null and his reaction to all this, because how in the Kentucky fried fuck do you spend that much time involved with someone like CWC and completely miss all the blatantly obvious signs that this situation was years in the making? Chris was talking about his incest fantasies as early as 2015-ish for Christ's sake!

I understand that he was Null's favorite tard and all but holy shit, this is why you never get personally involved with Lolcows, it blinds you to the obvious foreshadowing around them.
After everything that recently unraveled with Portabella Loretta Janke, her immeasurable list of heinous shit, and her glowie enabler parents hitting the Farms with the most complex DDOS in the site's history I completely and utterly take back everything I said about Null not seeing this coming. No one on the face of this planet could have ever predicted that Chris plowing his mother would open Pandora's Fucking Box like it has in this recent week.

Just take a moment to think about the fact that we have discovered someone so foul and far removed from any kind of human decency that it somehow made raping an elderly dementia patient look TAME in comparison. :cryblood:
 
I wonder how Chris will look in a month. He was all smiles when he got arrested, a stark contrast to his other arrest pics but now, he's been snapped away from his fantasy world into the cruel reality - American MALE prison. Shanking and rape is all that await him.
And they probably won't. What he really has to look forward to is incredible boredom, for a long time. Any violence in there will probably just be punctuation in a very long sentence.
 
“Dr. Liquid? What’s wrong?”
"I met him, 12 years ago; I was told there was nothing left; no reason, no conscience, no understanding in even the most rudimentary sense of life or death, of good or evil, right or wrong, only lovequest. I met this... twenty-seven-year-old manchild with this fat, greasy, autistic face, and... the blankest eyes - the Sonic's eyes. I spent year pretending to be him, and then another one trying to make him think that I was the TRUE and HONEST creator of Sonichu, because I realized that what was living behind that sperg's eyes was purely and simply... evil."
 
Debating Chris's IQ is always boring. It's a sketchy metric to begin with, but in this case it's almost entirely irrelevant.

Chris learned to drive a car, Chris learned basic cooking skills, Chris can use a smartphone and hook up video game systems and so on. This sets the bar extremely low, obviously, but the point is that Chris has the mental faculties required to do many of the basic tasks necessary to be an average joe living in the modern world.

Social intelligence and emotional intelligence have always been Chris's problem and always will be. It doesn't matter if his IQ is low or average or whatever because it's never been what held him back. Hubris, entitlement, obsessiveness, stubbornness, poor introspection skills, and a generally faulty theory of mind are the main flaws that have crippled Chris.
 
Debating Chris's IQ is always boring. It's a sketchy metric to begin with, but in this case it's almost entirely irrelevant.

Chris learned to drive a car, Chris learned basic cooking skills, Chris can use a smartphone and hook up video game systems and so on. This sets the bar extremely low, obviously, but the point is that Chris has the mental faculties required to do many of the basic tasks necessary to be an average joe living in the modern world.

Social intelligence and emotional intelligence have always been Chris's problem and always will be. It doesn't matter if his IQ is low or average or whatever because it's never been what held him back. Hubris, entitlement, obsessiveness, stubbornness, poor introspection skills, and a generally faulty theory of mind are the main flaws that have crippled Chris.
Agreed, I think Chris's IQ is a red herring, since we know he is mentally competent enough to function in society if he wished to do so, he just chooses not to.
 
Agreed, I think Chris's IQ is a red herring, since we know he is mentally competent enough to function in society if he wished to do so, he just chooses not to.
he may be competent, but you have to realise he has been coddled and sheltered his whole life into adulthood.
high iq or not he wont survive on his own, hes pretty much the epitome of a manchild.
 
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Regardless of Chris’s IQ we know Chris was aware that incest was frowned upon in general, considering he said “I no longer believe in labels that would hinder, and I do not listen to those shadows”. So he‘s aware that society thinks fucking your mother is wrong, and furthermore he admits to just straight up disregarding whatever societal norms he finds limiting. Fairly typical for Chris, but also pretty damning.

So whatever his IQ is, its high enough that he can not only fully understand social norms but also consciously disregard them whenever it suits him.
 
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With the amount of coverage this is getting, we may not even to have to send field agents out to attend the hearing/trials. Of course, this means if we want the inside scoop, we have to rely on...journalists. Gross.

Chris having a hissy fit during the hearing surprised me more than it should, even though he has acted like a child in every trial/hearing to date (making noise/playing with toys in the courtroom, talking over his lawyer/the judge, making unnecessary comments, behaving generally inappropriately); for old time's sake, I reread @Cyan 's account of the Michael Snyder trial (July 10, 2012):


And this was nine years ago. Chris has only gotten worse since then.

Now that he's getting cranky about not having his toys, either to retrieve from the motel and stow away at 14 BLC or to bring with them with him to his cell, I suspect he'll start throwing more tantrums like the one during his brief stint in jail on October 28, 2011, after running Snyder over with his car:



I find it hysterical how much Chris needed his mommy back then, and now he doesn't give a rat's ass. Not when some ding dang dirty trolls might take his toys before he can get to them!

Also worth noting is that after Snyder was struck by their vehicle twice, he managed to convince the judge to grant leniency to Charb and allow them to plead down their felonies to misdemeanors, so they didn't have a felony conviction hanging over their heads. Chris repaid him for his kindness by defaming him in a court of law.

Chris really fucking screwed the Snorlax pooch this time. He alienated friend(s), family, Null, Marvin, well-meaning old trolls and ass-kissing sycophants alike. There is no one left in Chris' corner now, save for his imaginary friends. There's no Rob Bell to rein him in (though we'll see how this veteran PD does), no Rocky to fraudulently sign off on community service hours paperwork for him, no court-mandated-psychiatry-program-for-tards quacks to give him a pat on his balding seaweed head and free movie tickets for being such a good boy, no Michael Snyder to plead with the judge, no Mommy to take care of everything, and no more of Bob's savings to throw at the problem. (That was long-gone after Barb blew it all to get Rob Bell to, I dunno, pull a not guilty ruling out of the judge's ass.) For the first time in his life, there is no one to shield Chris from the consequences of his actions. Even if he gets off easy, relatively speaking (say, a year or two in the clink), he's still fucked by virtue of being a convicted felon and a sex offender. He'll never see Mommy again outside of the courtroom, if then. He'll probably never see the only home he's ever really known again, either.

Chris is fucked.

Best outcome.

Hopefully he gets shanked or beaten to death.
 
Regardless of Chris’s IQ we know Chris was aware that incest was frowned upon in general, considering he said “I no longer believe in labels that would hinder, and I do not listen to those shadows”. So he‘s aware that society thinks fucking your mother is wrong, and furthermore he admits to just straight up disregarding whatever societal norms he finds limiting. Fairly typical for Chris, but also pretty damning.

So whatever his IQ is, its high enough that he can not only fully understand social norms but also consciously disregard them whenever it suits him.
There's no denying that Chris knew for a fact his activities were frowned upon by most of human civilization. I would grant there's a small possibility he doesn't understand why it wasn't consensual as some have suggested, but he certainly fucking knew it was not socially acceptable. And Chris is not intellectually impaired to such an extent that he could not have reasonably been expected to understand that someone with severe dementia or what have you cannot consent. Personally, I only care about the consent issue--what Chris did or did not know about social norms is irrelevant in my eyes. If two gross rednecks are related and fuck as consenting adults, that's on them and the public shouldn't really concern themselves with it. But if it's rape (as it appears to be in this case) then obviously there is cause for public concern.
 
His schooling was terrible. He did not take so long to get an associates degree because he was partying and chasing tail but because he failed. Even in HS, his teachers got tired of the tard baby mainstream experiment and passed him because they got tired, so they gave him Cs and Ds. Chris' only academic achievements involve being the subject of a thesis some idiot wrote a few years ago.


The only honor roll Chris was on had butter.
Exactly. If you go to a community college, it will be like high school 2.0 except FAFSA pays.

Professors pass lazy idiots eventually. I'd love to see some of Christian's college work
 
There's no denying that Chris knew for a fact his activities were frowned upon by most of human civilization. I would grant there's a small possibility he doesn't understand why it wasn't consensual as some have suggested, but he certainly fucking knew it was not socially acceptable. And Chris is not intellectually impaired to such an extent that he could not have reasonably been expected to understand that someone with severe dementia or what have you cannot consent. Personally, I only care about the consent issue--what Chris did or did not know about social norms is irrelevant in my eyes. If two gross rednecks are related and fuck as consenting adults, that's on them and the public shouldn't really concern themselves with it. But if it's rape (as it appears to be in this case) then obviously there is cause for public concern.
However incest becomes a concern when the state realises they're finding more inbreed children with learning disabilities and take up too much money in the social security system.
 
The Chris and IQ debate is something that I honestly think doesn't really need much examination, based on the fact that he is cognitive enough to express basic ideas, along with solve basic problems. He does have a associates degree, despite how long it took him to complete, and he does have high school under his belt. His problems mainly stem from never having the proper coping skills to be able to deal with his disability. Due to this aspect, along with living in an hoarders nightmare, being in isolation for years at a time, along with the paranoia he developed once the trolling began to hit it's peak. To be honest, he is slow, but not slow enough to not completely comprehend that what he was doing was immoral.

I'm thinking sometime between the house fire and the game stop incident, there was some type of medication change, or something of that nature that brought on the psychological elements with the disturbance in his behavior. Remember he was undergoing some court appointed evaluations for quite a bit and perhaps because him discontining therapy he ended up relapsing into Buffalo Bill. He has been under the microscope for well over a decade and the fact his God complex has developed in such a dangerous manner demonstrates that he is totally aware of what he is doing, but cannot articulate the end path. Which in his early diagnosis essentially states this, so his analytical reasoning is totally off the mark. Realistically it is a perfect storm of bad disorders rolled into one.

This could of been probably prevented if he ended up getting more professional help in his younger years in being able to deal with his disorder. Barbara also did have negative influence over Chris and always cottled his bad traits. Not that she deserved what happened to her in her far gone state, quite the contrary. Though he did have an incredibly abnormal relationship with his mother.

When I delved into the abyss known as the orbiters of current year, in all reality these are the exact people Null warned Chris about. I'm not going to deem Chris action against his mother insoluble because of this, rather it is a large reoccuring pattern when we delve into yester year Chris. He ends up latching onto terrible people, that because that seems to be his only form of IRL interaction beyond his mother at current year. These already dangerous ideas post Idea Saga, became more and more accepted. Chris is not the devil, but the product of the failure of proper adult supervision online based on his disability. It's a tragic state of affairs but totally avoidable. All he had to do was get off the internet and work on his comic books and drawings. Despite his art being goofy and ridiculous, it was the only thing he had that had some degree of familiarity to him. Maybe while incarcerated he can get back in touch with that part of himself and just express himself in that manner away from the internet.

The only good thing to come out of this is that he can now beyond a doubt stay off the fucking internet and hopefully the state can provide him the proper tools he needs to better reintegrate into society. Alogs and weens deserve the wall.

No, Chris deserves the wall.
 
There's no denying that Chris knew for a fact his activities were frowned upon by most of human civilization. I would grant there's a small possibility he doesn't understand why it wasn't consensual as some have suggested, but he certainly fucking knew it was not socially acceptable. And Chris is not intellectually impaired to such an extent that he could not have reasonably been expected to understand that someone with severe dementia or what have you cannot consent.
I think this misses the crucial component of Chris's current state of profound delusion.

If you're skeptical of Chris's own belief in the merge and all of that other shit he's been talking about for the past few years then you probably won't find any of this persuasive, but I personally believe that Chris is very sincere when he talks about being a beautiful female deity who is about to facilitate two universes combining through his immense psychic energy or whatever the fuck.

I think Chris's view of the world is so utterly, comprehensively distorted at this point that he can justify nearly any impulse he has. He believes he has access to greater wisdom than normal people, and he believes himself to be literal divinity. The calm demeanor Chris displayed through the process of being arrested and booked and photographed is downright unnerving, imo, and is just more evidence of how completely out of touch he really is these days. He thinks he's in control. He has no fucking idea how bad his life is about to become.

So I don't think you can apply normal paradigms of social expectations, or normal paradigms of morality, or normal paradigms of understanding right and wrong. Chris is broken and crazy beyond all of that.

I don't think Chris maliciously raped Barb as some sort of sociopathic act of selfishness. When he says it was helping to heal her brain and bring her pleasure and allow their souls to combine, I think he actually believes all of that. I couldn't even guess how strongly he believes any of it, but I think he believes it strongly enough to justify his actions to himself.

I'm not of the opinion that Chris needs to be locked up as punishment for his actions, but I think Chris's actions prove that Chris needs to be locked up for the safety of himself and for the safety of people in his vicinity.
 
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