Artcow Chris Hart

[Niachu]

And people wonder why there's a stigma around anime artists?

I did the whole derivative generic anime thing when I was 11. Only until a few years ago I realized my drawings consistently looked like puke and I had to start where everyone else does--figure drawings. Only when I started learning my way around the natural human body that I realized that it's actually really fun to start with the figure, the bones, and the muscles before making it all fit together in a human skin. If you don't do that, you could have the prestigious honor of having your art end up somewhere like here.

Fun fact: people drawn in the "anime style" aren't meant to be shallow kawaii blow-up mockeries of humans. They are stylized people. Say it with me, everyone: you have to learn the rules before you can break them.

 

[c-no]

I did the whole derivative generic anime thing when I was 11. Only until a few years ago I realized my drawings consistently looked like puke and I had to start where everyone else does--figure drawings. Only when I started learning my way around the natural human body that I realized that it's actually really fun to start with the figure, the bones, and the muscles before making it all fit together in a human skin. If you don't do that, you could have the prestigious honor of having your art end up somewhere like here.

Having been to that page all I can say is that I . And I thought anatomy was just looking at the waist, arms, etc. to make sure they aren't deformed.

 

[random_pickle]

Something has always bothered me, how can you tell if the art is stylized or broken?

 

[Niachu]

Something has always bothered me, how can you tell if the art is stylized or broken?

You can usually tell when the artist knows their stuff and is just stylizing their drawings. Or maybe it's something you get an eye for? If there's consistency and a sense that it's all deliberate then it's stylization. It depends on intent, too. If the person is trying to make their drawing accurate and sexy and end up with, um...this:

...Then it's broken.

 

[Fialovy]

did that character lose his hand or something?

 

[KatsuKitty]

Niachu, you immediately reminded me of this:

Spoiler

 

[The Hunter]

Niachu, you immediately reminded me of this:

Spoiler

You may want to re-host that, but yeah, those blogs always tempt me to submit those anatomical breakdowns of Chris's stuff, like the giant penis one or the issue 0 one.

 

[KatsuKitty]

Niachu, you immediately reminded me of this:

Spoiler

You may want to re-host that, but yeah, those blogs always tempt me to submit those anatomical breakdowns of Chris's stuff, like the giant penis one or the issue 0 one.

This is straight off the CWCki. Unless that's now discouraged, then I can put it on the imgur.

 

[The Hunter]

Niachu, you immediately reminded me of this:

Spoiler

You may want to re-host that, but yeah, those blogs always tempt me to submit those anatomical breakdowns of Chris's stuff, like the giant penis one or the issue 0 one.

This is straight off the CWCki. Unless that's now discouraged, then I can put it on the imgur.

It is.

 

[Niachu]

did that character lose his hand or something?

Nah, just classic hand laziness. Some artists just hide the hands behind something conveniently placed, this artist didn't even attempt that, lol.

 

[WWWWolf]

Something has always bothered me, how can you tell if the art is stylized or broken?

I have a simple criterion for that. I don't mind if something is drawn on a specific style, or if the artist has whatever concept in mind when they draw the character. I do mind if it looks stupid.

There's another fun blog that deals with this topic: Escher Girls. As the author has said several times, it's not really a problem at all that comics have sexy women in them. It's entirely okay to have characters that have sex appeal while making comics that have actual artistic value. The problem is that comic artists keep doing "sexy poses" that are 1) anatomically implausible, 2) serve absolutely no purpose for the plot and 3) usually just look fucking stupid (and usually also fail to be sexy at all).

 

[Niachu]

Something has always bothered me, how can you tell if the art is stylized or broken?

I have a simple criterion for that. I don't mind if something is drawn on a specific style, or if the artist has whatever concept in mind when they draw the character. I do mind if it looks stupid.

There's another fun blog that deals with this topic: Escher Girls. As the author has said several times, it's not really a problem at all that comics have sexy women in them. It's entirely okay to have characters that have sex appeal while making comics that have actual artistic value. The problem is that comic artists keep doing "sexy poses" that are 1) anatomically implausible, 2) serve absolutely no purpose for the plot and 3) usually just look fucking stupid (and usually also fail to be sexy at all).

Thank you. The boobs n' butt poses drive me nuts.

 

[Fialovy]

It seems possible for this lady considering she is made of jelly.

 

[OR 345]

The guy I mentioned in earlier post who liked to ramble on about zillions of manga guides he had, and had managed to learn how to ink and colour and shade characters pretty well, and the art was really manga-ish. Too bad he had absolutely no clue about facial expressions or poses. He could do pr0n poses and Characters Just Sort Of Standing There. Facial expressions? Well, and and that's pretty much the extent of it. I just told him that he really needs to start working on that kind of really fundamental things before the drawings were any good, the way the were the drawings always came across a little bit cringeworthy.

Also, there's a shitton of other work that goes into drawings too, besides just characters. His approach to backgrounds was basically "I have a perfectly functional cheapo cellphone camera, and I bought Photoshop which has some filters in it, and I'm not afraid to use either of these".

Okay. Are you talking about some lolcow named Neomorphasis? Because this fits him perfectly.

Anyway. When I first discovered mango in...oh hell. I don't know. Many many years ago, when I was just a dumb tween. I checked some of Hart's how-to-draw books out from the library and, of course, I couldn't make sense of the instructions because they were so...vague. I didn't even like the art he had in them.
This reminds me of another guy named Mark Crilley. His art is better but still not that great, and he uploads tons of how-to-draw videos.

 

[Male]

Something has always bothered me, how can you tell if the art is stylized or broken?

I have a simple criterion for that. I don't mind if something is drawn on a specific style, or if the artist has whatever concept in mind when they draw the character. I do mind if it looks stupid.

There's another fun blog that deals with this topic: Escher Girls. As the author has said several times, it's not really a problem at all that comics have sexy women in them. It's entirely okay to have characters that have sex appeal while making comics that have actual artistic value. The problem is that comic artists keep doing "sexy poses" that are 1) anatomically implausible, 2) serve absolutely no purpose for the plot and 3) usually just look fucking stupid (and usually also fail to be sexy at all).

Seriously, how many times have you seen a female make this pose? Her spine would be tiwsted just like the jelly woman in Fia's post.

 

[WWWWolf]

Okay. Are you talking about some lolcow named Neomorphasis? Because this fits him perfectly.

Whee, perfect guess. I had some long and really frigging painful discussions with the guy in deviantART. At one point, he actually contacted me and wanted me to take part in some kind of a harebrained sockpuppet trolling scheme against Chris Hart (back when Hart was still in dA). I managed to talk him out of it. The public flareups that are listed in the first page of this thread had already happened so there was certainly no need for further evidence of his character.

 

[OR 345]

I'm sorry. I really am. He's so...delusional.

 

[MysticMisty]

Update: Chris Hart is still drawing and publishing How-To books. Now he's moved into American cartoons, almost certainly based on the recent success of American cartoons like Adventure Time, Regular Show, and My Little Pony.

 

[Jewelsmakerguy]

Update: Chris Hart is still drawing and publishing How-To books. Now he's moved into American cartoons, almost certainly based on the recent success of American cartoons like Adventure Time, Regular Show, and My Little Pony.

I've noticed that myself, and I'll be the first to admit that it's only a little bit better than his Animu drawings.

 

[Fialovy]

Update: Chris Hart is still drawing and publishing How-To books. Now he's moved into American cartoons, almost certainly based on the recent success of American cartoons like Adventure Time, Regular Show, and My Little Pony.

I've noticed that myself, and I'll be the first to admit that it's only a little bit better than his Animu drawings.

So he is pretty much one of those guys that goes with the fads to make a quick buck I guess?