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Want people to actually like you? Stop being a gigantic asshole to everyone, stop threatening to pepper spray people just doing their jobs and work on being somewhat likeable. At least that's how it works for most people.
 
The Knife said:
Why would he spray himself? To show himself that he means business?
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I think he's saying, "I don't care who you are, I will spray any motherfucker who gets in my way. Even if, theoretically, a space-time wormhole allowed for me to meet myself at WalMart, and I gave myself a hard time, I would spray my own badass self in the motherfucking face.

Have a Good Day."
 
asperhes said:
I think he's saying, "I don't care who you are, I will spray any motherfucker who gets in my way. Even if, theoretically, a space-time wormhole allowed for me to meet myself at WalMart, and I gave myself a hard time, I would spray my own badass self in the motherfucking face.

Have a Good Day."
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"Sent from my iPhone."
 
asperhes said:
I think he's saying, "I don't care who you are, I will spray any motherfucker who gets in my way. Even if, theoretically, a space-time wormhole allowed for me to meet myself at WalMart, and I gave myself a hard time, I would spray my own badass self in the motherfucking face.

Have a Good Day."
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Let's be honest: if Chris somehow felt threatened by himself, he'd empty his precious little can into his doppleganger's face.

Of course, what's worrying about all this is that Chris clearly thinks that threatening anybody who gives him a hard time means threatening pepper spray = abusable-as-fuck tactical nuke option replacement for the autism card.
 
Alec Benson Leary said:
I might disagree here. The PD is qualified in the law, but he's not a psychologist. It's his job to get the best legal deal for his client, but the court won't expect him to judge his client's mental state beyond a basic level. Last time, all that meant was a cursory psych eval; I don't see the court re-examining his competency this time when they already satisfied themselves.
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Depends on whether the lawyer can use Chris newly emerged transgenderism and the distress caused by the fire as a pertinent reason to re-evaluate Chris mental state. A clever lawyer will use the last year's events to paint Chris as a distressed young man struggling to cope against some fairly traumatic things.
 
LazarusOwenhart said:
Depends on whether the lawyer can use Chris newly emerged transgenderism and the distress caused by the fire as a pertinent reason to re-evaluate Chris mental state. A clever lawyer will use the last year's events to paint Chris as a distressed young man struggling to cope against some fairly traumatic things.
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That would not go to codependency to stand trial, rather once, (I hate to even this) or if, the lawyer talks Chris into pleading guilty Autism and da stress become relevent to the sentence to court will give Chris.

also looking that the offense of release of a gas if Chris sprayed himself in Wal-mart he could be get another charge
 
stack said:
I'm pretty convinced that Chris is bound to be institutionalized. The real question is just for how long. Now that he's maced someone once and only spent a couple days in lockup, he actually thinks he did the right thing as evidenced by his gloating about the assault and threats to mace even more staff. Either he goes away now and gets some tough love treatment, or he'll repeat this behavior and they'll have no choice but to put him away.
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Institutionalized or wind up in an adult care place where he's out of trouble (or as much trouble as he can get into).
 
deadson said:
Institutionalized or wind up in an adult care place where he's out of trouble (or as much trouble as he can get into).
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Saddly with underfunding of mental health services in North America there are not the beds for some like Chris as has been said in the past, in could be Jail or the street
 
He claims to talk to Megagi La Skunk, doesn't he? Perhaps "she" suggested the spray defense. I joke...and yet I wonder.
 
Back when the first incident happened, I outlined it to three professional friends, one of whom is a public defender. Between me hedging like crazy to seem like this was some Weird News story in which I had taken a fleeting interest and her stressing that nothing she said was to be construed as legal advice, the upshot was that any public defender who was not phoning it in would stress the fact that Chris is mentally handicapped and try for in-patient psych eval plus time served in exchange for a guilty plea. She also said the judge would be informed ahead of time and "nine out of ten" times he would bear it in mind during sentencing because "they tend to be a lot more sympathetic about [developmental disorders] than they are about things like schizophrenia and drug addictions." She also gave the impression that pretty much no one would want someone like Chris to go to jail-jail, both for his own sake and because prisoners who require special accommodations are a pain in the ass for everyone involved.

(In the spirit of full disclosure, when I updated her that Chris might have attempted assault again while out on bail, her response was, "Um. Oh. Ouch.")
 
Jacquetta said:
But for real, what the fuck Chris? It's probably for the best he most likely has a PD who doesn't give a shit because any other lawyer would probably have one hell of a headache by now.
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He quite possibly actually doesn't have a public defender yet. While the right to counsel may attach earlier than arraignment under certain circumstances, including some types of custodial interrogation, especially when the accused actually demands counsel, if all they did was detain him prior to a video hearing where nothing significant to the case actually happened, he might not be entitled to counsel before arraignment.

That isn't until next month.

The fact that he isn't already complaining about his lawyer also suggests he might not have one.

A-№1 said:
He's trying to use "Stand Your Ground" as a defense for committing willful trespass. Who knows what the fuck he's thinking? Not that we really have to understand his underlying thought process to know that this will not end well.
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The main problem with SYG is not the legal principle, but the fact they call it that, which gives many laypeople a mental picture of acting like they're in a Charles Bronson movie.

Most of these state laws merely restate and give enhanced procedural protections for the general doctrine that when one is lawfully present in a place, one is not obligated to retreat when confronted with force, but is entitled to respond with reasonable force in self-defense.

In Florida, for instance, a defendant may assert this as an immunity from trial rather than as an affirmative defense. One can also forego the pretrial hearing and instead raise it as an affirmative defense at trial, as one could previously.

Virginia doesn't have an SYG law that I know of, but they don't need one. There is no duty to retreat there.

You do not, of course, have the right to "stand your ground" while trespassing and committing vandalism.
 
I go on the verge of being off topic here, but where did this mentality come from? Sure, chris has always been a little fucked up in the head, but he wasn't ever aggressive. Has his home situation caused the deterioration? Some have mentioned Bob dying, but his mentality didn't start to deteriorate to aggression until much later, leading me to believe it's some other factors at play. I understand the lesbian transgender issue, but surely there's more at work here.
 
My GodBear, if it wasn't more clear he is a danger to the community, that message definitely should prove it right there. The tomgirl is cracked and I would suggest all trolls cease contact because you never know what he may do or what the ramifications may be of it. Barb could have some sort of case, and while it may or may not be successful, i wouldn't want to foot the bill for defending myself.
 
serdog said:
Saddly with underfunding of mental health services in North America there are not the beds for some like Chris as has been said in the past, in could be Jail or the street
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Too true. Also, to be honest, there are people out there who could really use what little help is available much more than Chris.

AnOminous said:
He quite possibly actually doesn't have a public defender yet.
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Yes. But even if Chris did during his video arraignment, I would honestly be surprised if Barb spoke to any counsel before bailing him out. Her need for someone to haul hoard probably trumps any other concern she might hypothetically have had.
The fact that he isn't already complaining about his lawyer also suggests he might not have one.
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Chris may well already have a PD assigned and be unaware of it. It's unlikely they'd have met in person yet for more than a few moments, never mind long enough for Chris to figure out just who that person in the suit talking to him was.
The main problem with SYG is not the legal principle, but the fact they call it that, which gives many laypeople a mental picture of acting like they're in a Charles Bronson movie.
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I'm absolutely not going to debate the merits of Stand Your Ground here. I'm just saying that if Chris thinks it or any other form of "self defense" somehow justifies assaulting people while trespassing, well I can only call that stupidity and insanity to the point of inexplicability. I would ask what the fuck he's thinking, but, well, he probably isn't.
 
"I'm a danger to society, and it's all Sega's fault!"

Dear god, I would pay money to see his lawyer or the judge have to spell this out for the brain dead oaf.
"Gamestop lured me in a false sense of security with their Skylanders! If Sega hadn't made Sonic's damned arms blue I would never have been banned, I would never have been seriously stalked and the quote unquote manager would've gone unsprayed!"
"... The hell did he just say?"
 
No internet for almost a week. No vidya.
Instead: Physical exertion and being bullied by Barb.
That's some cold turkey cure and no mistake.

No wonder Fatty is getting a little cranky.
Withdrawal is never nice to look at. And Fatty being forced to kick his vidya addiction is turning into one hell of a show.
 
What I got from this is that Chris is basically saying 'LIKE ME OR I'LL PUBLICLY ASSAULT YOU WITH A WEAPON'.

If Chris's response to people essentially telling him things he doesn't want to hear is to literally attack them, then he really needs to head to the clink post-fucking-haste.
 
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I can't be the only one still paying attention to this human trainwreck who just finds his mind bizarrely disengaged from reality. Like, I can't even fathom how SEGA even factors into it, outside of being a background factoid. Is it really just autism anymore?
 
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