Chris - The Legal Issues - A Prosecutor's Perspective

[Unpleasant]

I'm asking this as a complete legal retard so this might be stupid, but would it be possible for a court to send chris to an adult care facility of some sort due to his quite obvious issues?

Possible, but Chris isn't that crazy.

Chris is crazy, but those uninvolved in the system just can't imagine how crazy crazy can be to get committed to something like that.

 

[Fapcop]

Question for the legal types: do you think the publicity surrounding this case would affect things at all, or in the final reckoning is it still too small-time for that?

Well... There are different kinds of publicity. Redditors and dweeb websites talking about isn’t the same kind of publicity as the local news channels being parked outside the jail and local print journalists constantly calling.

However, any kind of publicity in this case (especially REAL publicity) would work to Chris’s benefit I’d imagine.

There are only so many other phone calls from weens and Redditor-basement dwellers that the local prosecutors and police can tolerate, before they start to develop a desire to let a nasty incest case go away as quickly as possible.

Unfortunately. Another slap on the wrist is the last thing an escalating sexfiend/sexpest like Chris needs.

This case is to a large extent about access and opportunity.

Chris has access and opportunity to fuck Barb. If he for some reason had easy access to a 13 year old or 14 year old, I don’t doubt for a second that he’d pound her until his duck bent the other way.

(After brooding on it for a period of time first.)



And to all the: “Chris would never!”/Chris isn’t a pedophile!

Well guess what, a few months ago he wasn’t a mother fucker/granny fucker either now was he?

 

[Learned Hand]

I'm asking this as a complete legal retard so this might be stupid, but would it be possible for a court to send chris to an adult care facility of some sort due to his quite obvious issues?

Chris seems crazy to us because most of us are normal, adjusted people, but those facilities are overrun as is, and if you think Chris is bad, I think the wards of the state they do take in would simply shock you.

This case is to a large extent about access and opportunity.

Chris has access and opportunity to fuck Barb. If he for some reason had easy access to a 13 year old or 14 year old, I don’t doubt for a second that he’d pound her until his duck bent the other way.

(After brooding on it for a period of time first.)

I think this is going to be the key fact that turns the decision of the court. Chris is an opportunistic predator, and there is no reason to believe he won't commit another sex crime again given opportunity.

For Chris, motive has never been in question. He's always been a highly motivated sexpest. I truly believe the only reason he hasn't raped or violated anyone else is because most women will not go near him. Consent is clearly no issue for him.

 

[robobobo]

I wouldn't be at all surprised if an evaluation gets ordered. I seem to recall one was for the GameStop assault. But as others pointed out, Chris is on the shallow end of the crazy pool so it's unlikely they're going to let him take up an expensive bed in a psych ward. Also, even if he does receive a light bail and does post with a bondsman, guy has little if any money and nowhere to live. Honestly the county lockup is possibly the best place he could be right now, if the alternative is being on the street.

 

[Thorgrim Grudgebearer]

Chris has access and opportunity to fuck Barb. If he for some reason had easy access to a 13 year old or 14 year old, I don’t doubt for a second that he’d pound her until his duck bent the other way.

Unlikely, as
- he's too stupid to overpower a 13 y/o
- to my knowledge there is no "how to fuck a 13 y/o" book on the market

Also more realistically speaking it's hard to prove that "someone would do it if they could"

 

[Some JERK]

Ironically, county jails for pre-trial inmates are usually worse than a full-blown prison. Mostly because jail stays are usually short term compared to prison stays. This is despite the fact that you are supposedly innocent until proven guilty.

Also because a lot people coming into jails are still high on, or withdrawing from drugs or alcohol.

For Chris, motive has never been in question. He's always been a highly motivated sexpest. I truly believe the only reason he hasn't raped or violated anyone else is because most women will not go near him. Consent is clearly no issue for him.

Pretty much every female who has stood within groping distance of Chris has reported that he can not keep his hands to himself. He respects no boundaries. The fact that he waited until his mother was so far gone that she couldn't resist him says a lot here.

 

[Bixby Snyder]

Anyone else hoping he insists on representing himself?

 

[Cherry Popcicle.]

Chris seems crazy to us because most of us are normal, adjusted people, but those facilities are overrun as is, and if you think Chris is bad, I think the wards of the state they do take in would simply shock you.

I have some idea of how bad it is, my grandma works medical intake at a court or jail depending on who needs staff, and shes told me some stories about people coming in. I just wanted to hold out some level of hope that chris would get some sort of help instead of just getting thrown in the rape cage and get spat out on the other side even worse and homeless.

 

[FriendshipBunny]

I'm asking this as a complete legal retard so this might be stupid, but would it be possible for a court to send chris to an adult care facility of some sort due to his quite obvious issues?

I can't imagine that's likely. They usually just put people like him in solitary. Best case scenario I can imagine (not a lawyer), Barb will be put in a home and Chris will be released after serving his time. Sonichu headquarters will probably be foreclosed on by then though.

I have some idea of how bad it is, my grandma works medical intake at a court or jail depending on who needs staff, and shes told me some stories about people coming in. I just wanted to hold out some level of hope that chris would get some sort of help instead of just getting thrown in the rape cage and get spat out on the other side even worse and homeless.

He still has his tugboat. He may be able to rent an apartment, or a room somewhere.

 

[Kosher Dill]

They usually just put people like him in solitary.

Joke's on them, there's no such thing as solitary when your boyfriend can walk through walls.

 

[Joe Cool]

He still has his tugboat. He may be able to rent an apartment, or a room somewhere.

If he was able to budget and stopped wasting his money on toys he might be able to make it work. But it would be tight based on current rentals in his area and what I'm assuming his tugboat is.

 

[AlphariusOmegon]

I wish to ask, as Chris has only been charged with incest as of right now, do you think the prosecution will bring the rape charges in the future?

 

[Shovel Mech Pilot]

I wish to ask, as Chris has only been charged with incest as of right now, do you think the prosecution will bring the rape charges in the future?

It all depends on how cooperative Barb will be with the police. If she insists that it was consensual, there won't be a rape charge.

 

[Learned Hand]

I wish to ask, as Chris has only been charged with incest as of right now, do you think the prosecution will bring the rape charges in the future?

We will find out for sure tomorrow. The current documents we have only list the reason for his arrest. I'm sure there are other charges being considered.

 

[Kelly's Yeeted Legs]

There’s no doubt that Chris will manage to fuck himself long and hard, from the moment the police detective steps into the interview room.

You think he'd bother to wait for the detectives in the interview room to spill his guts? He probably confessed in the cop car on the way to the station.

Body cam and car cam footage will be interesting.

 

[RodgerDodger]

I'm asking this as a complete legal retard so this might be stupid, but would it be possible for a court to send chris to an adult care facility of some sort due to his quite obvious issues?

Because sending Chris to a facility filled with lots of mentally compromised or cognitively disabled elderly ladies would be a good idea why exactly? As the OP indicated Chris is most likely a predator of opportunity. An adult care facility would be like sending Him to the grand reopening of Toys R Us.

 

[Unpleasant]

Ironically, county jails for pre-trial inmates are usually worse than a full-blown prison. Mostly because jail stays are usually short term compared to prison stays. This is despite the fact that you are supposedly innocent until proven guilty.

Jail is almost always worse than prison. Prisons allow a substantial degree of freedom to lower and medium custody inmates, up to and including the ability to walk off the premises for work or education.

Jails do not have the resources and serve a very different function- jailers are preoccupied with handling writs, court functions, attorney/client meetings, visitations, a large and spread out number of intakes, discharges, first appearances, pulling inmates for questioning or new charges, and everything else. If you arent kept in a "dorm" or pod, you may leave your cell only for an hour or so a day. At the best you might get a trustee spot at a jail, where you can at least leave to go pick up trash or do maintenance around the property.

A prison has case managers, can transfer inmates to move them to more suitable programming or accommodations, and has more emphasis on training and education. Prisoners are encouraged to use their free time constructively, and the vast majority of prisoners have quite a bit of time that is somewhat unsupervised compared to in a jail, where they may wander the premises, sign up for coursework, read, write, or apply for work release or job placements. Most prisons aren't "locked down" outside of headcounts, sleeping times, or higher custody units.

My point is if you're stuck in jail prison isn't a threat... it's a bargaining chip.

 

[Cripple]

So is he likely to go with a public defender or with whatever lawyer he had when Barb and he attempted to run over the store owner?

 

[AlphariusOmegon]

It all depends on how cooperative Barb will be with the police. If she insists that it was consensual, there won't be a rape charge.

If she's lucid that is.

Jail is almost always worse than prison. Prisons allow a substantial degree of freedom to lower and medium custody inmates, up to and including the ability to walk off the premises for work or education.

Jails do not have the resources and serve a very different function- jailers are preoccupied with handling writs, court functions, attorney/client meetings, visitations, a large and spread out number of intakes, discharges, first appearances, pulling inmates for questioning or new charges, and everything else. If you arent kept in a "dorm" or pod, you may leave your cell only for an hour or so a day. At the best you might get a trustee spot at a jail, where you can at least leave to go pick up trash or do maintenance around the property.

A prison has case managers, can transfer inmates to move them to more suitable programming or accommodations, and has more emphasis on training and education. Prisoners are encouraged to use their free time constructively, and the vast majority of prisoners have quite a bit of time that is somewhat unsupervised compared to in a jail, where they may wander the premises, sign up for coursework, read, write, or apply for work release or job placements. Most prisons aren't "locked down" outside of headcounts, sleeping times, or higher custody units.

My point is if you're stuck in jail prison isn't a threat... it's a bargaining chip.

I know for a fact that jails in Virginia are treated as a level 5 in terms of classification. Because prisoners from all classifications (including the more violent ones) are housed there, the facility is mostly on lockdown and there are no dorms as it is too risky to keep multiple types of prisoners together.

In fact, here's a video on it from a former Virginia inmate:

 

[Shovel Mech Pilot]

If she's lucid that is.

If she's really out of it, that can result in a rape charge too. There is a decent chance that she was too out of her mind to consent. Imagine if she said some chilling shit like "I never had sex with Chris, but I did have sex with my husband a few days ago."