Chris's GameStop Assault - What happened? Why? How?

[KillerBob]

The assault itself seems to have happened because Chris thought the guy in the yellow shirt was trying to prevent him from leaving the store. I assume Chris got the mace out of his purse as a preventative thing to stop people detaining him and then sprayed the guy when Chris felt he came too close. Chris finds it hard to read peoples actions and was probably really angry.

I doubt very much if the guy in the yellow shirt was actually trying to stop Chris. I assume the manajerks wanted him to leave after the vandalism/trespass, although they may have already called the police. I think the guy was in the wrong place at the wrong time. Fortunately Chris didn't try to scratch him (like he's threatened Sega employees) or things might be even worse.

 

[Stud2Stud]

Chris really fucked up this time. I just wonder what he did in the shop, what exactly his act of vandalism was this time.
Either way, thank godbear the pepper spray was most likely some cheap dollar-store shit that barely works.

With a better non-knock-off pepper spray, the guy that got peppered would have suffered a lot more and since it was next to the only exit to the store and the other people in close proximity, he could have been in one hell of a shitfest by now. Just imagine Chris causing some people (some of which might be children) to choke on pepper spray...

Yeah, Chris fucked up this time and he can't blame it on ANYTHING or somehow twist this tale, godbear knows he will try, but there's no ambiguity here.

edit:

I think Chris went into GameStop intending to mace somebody. That's why he wore the goggles, to keep the mace out of his eyes. Before you say that this is too complicated for Chris to figure out, he apparently tried to change his clothes after the altercation so I think he has at least some awareness.

Nah. those stupid goggles are part of his Tomgirl get-up. He even wore them at the LGBT picnic and mentioned to one of Thetan's sockpuppets that he's wearing shades to avoid being recognized.

 

[warongiygas]

...he apparently tried to change his clothes after the altercation so I think he has at least some awareness.

Where are you getting this information? If it's from the police scanner, I think it's more likely that they were just getting conflicted information from witnesses about what he was wearing. I mean, he was dressed like a fucking goofball. Besides, he went in there to deface a Sonic Boom display, not to mace anybody. He's still guilty of assaulting the guy who was in his way, no doubt, but I don't think it was too premeditated.

 

[blackie toy]

Where are you getting this information? If it's from the police scanner, I think it's more likely that they were just getting conflicted information from witnesses about what he was wearing. I mean, he was dressed like a fucking goofball.

Having listened to the scanner, I support this interpretation. The whole pink miniskirt thing is exactly the sort of thing an eyewitness would screw up. I think Chris had on pink leggings, which could easily lead to confusion.

 

[Henry Bemis]

He's still guilty of assaulting the guy who was in his way, no doubt, but I don't think it was too premeditated.

It's about as un-premediated as a guy writing a couple months' worth of screeds against the game can get.

 

[Alec Benson Leary]

I think Chris went into GameStop intending to mace somebody.

It was clearly premeditated to at least some degree - he had the can of mace in his hand ready to go. Maybe he only thought to pull it out a moment prior when he noticed he had been caught vandalizing, but he didn't scramble to pull it out when he saw guys coming at him. He was ready to attack before being attacked.

 

[Globe]

What exactly was Chris doing at the mall? Did he come there intending to vandalize the Sonic Boom display, or did was he doing something else and then decided to attack the display when it caught his eye?

Thetan indicated in the mega thread that Chris was planning on vandalizing Sonic Boom displays and that she'd tried to discourage him from it. My wager is that he went for the sole purpose of doing that and while I don't agree that he went there intending to mace someone, it's obvious just from the video that he was looking for any excuse he could to do it, seeing as he appeared to already have it in his hand while he was in the back of the store. Speaking of which, what's the confirmation on him actually having used mace/pepper spray?

 

[mapdark]

Nah. those stupid goggles are part of his Tomgirl get-up. He even wore them at the LGBT picnic and mentioned to one of Thetan's sockpuppets that he's wearing shades to avoid being recognized.

Lol , because a 32 years old man with straw colored dirty hair wearing horrible female fashion is SO hard to miss as soon as he covers his eyes XD

 

[warongiygas]

It was clearly premeditated to at least some degree - he had the can of mace in his hand ready to go. Maybe he only thought to pull it out a moment prior when he noticed he had been caught vandalizing, but he didn't scramble to pull it out when he saw guys coming at him. He was ready to attack before being attacked.

I don't think Chris was intending to mace anyone because I don't think Chris was intending to get caught. I think panic played a role in his decision to mace the guy, but so did criminally poor judgement.

 

[blackie toy]

Remember folks: Premeditation is a relevant factor when differentiating between different degrees of murder. Here it's going to be more a matter of whether Chris intended to spray the person (even presuming there's that strong a state of mind element here; I get the feeling it's going to be closer to negligence or strict liability).

 

[Sweet and Savoury]

To my eyes he has some of those stupid stickers he printed off in his left hand as he leaves the store

No doubt he set out to vandalize the display, was stopped by the staff who were familiar with him and then Mace'd the poor guy either out of fear or out of spite for being stopped in his attempt to "fix" the display.

 

[Alec Benson Leary]

I don't think Chris was intending to mace anyone because I don't think Chris was intending to get caught. I think panic played a role in his decision to mace the guy, but so did criminally poor judgement.

I think he got caught, and his next thought was "I'd better hurt these people, maybe they won't be able to get me in trouble if I hurt them". And he honestly thinks that's okay.

 

[Ravenor]

I don't think Chris was intending to mace anyone because I don't think Chris was intending to get caught. I think panic played a role in his decision to mace the guy, but so did criminally poor judgement.

Maybe not mace, but he had it out an at the ready he was more than willing to use it. He didn't go to mace some one but was fully ready willing an able to do so.

To my eyes he has some of those stupid stickers he printed off in his left hand as he leaves the store

No doubt he set out to vandalize the display, was stopped by the staff who were familiar with him and then Mace'd the poor guy either out of fear or out of spite for being stopped in his attempt to "fix" the display.

My money is on spite, not panic. He was fully sasing his arse out the door an maced the guy for no reason almost to clear his path.

 

[Globe]

My money is on spite, not panic. He was fully sasing his arse out the door an maced the guy for no reason almost to clear his path.

This. He didn't even break a stride. That's not what someone that's responding to a threat (real or imagined) does.

 

[MrTroll]

Nah. those stupid goggles are part of his Tomgirl get-up. He even wore them at the LGBT picnic and mentioned to one of Thetan's sockpuppets that he's wearing shades to avoid being recognized.

They're actually not goggles at all, but rather pink sunglasses designed for a little girl, bundled with some MLP-themed car (someone found and posted a pic somewhere in the original video thread). Their small size, relative to Chris' big stupid head, makes them look tight enough to be goggles.

I think he got caught, and his next thought was "I'd better hurt these people, maybe they won't be able to get me in trouble if I hurt them". And he honestly thinks that's okay.

This was my impression too. He's so dumb he really thought disabling the store employee who threatened to call the police would buy him enough time to make a clean getaway. Because obviously, no one else in the store knows how to operate a phone or would want to report an assault.

 

[blackie toy]

I think he got caught, and his next thought was "I'd better hurt these people, maybe they won't be able to get me in trouble if I hurt them". And he honestly thinks that's okay.

I think it's the same deal as with why he tried to flee with Snyder. And I get the feeling that may be something Chris has learned: if he's left the place where he's trespassing by the time the cops arrive, he's likely just to get told not to come back. (and I think that's why Snyder was so insistent on detaining Barb and Chris when they piled in their car that fateful day) Chris wanted to stop the manajerk from trying to detain him in any way. And that's probably unlawful: you're generally allowed to detain someone who tries to shoplift, for instance. Trespassing may be similar (though I've argued against that in the past), but here Chris was committing vandalism, which is undoubtedly similar.

Even if the manajerk was trying to stop Chris (and from all appearances, he wasn't), it's unbelievably fucked up that he maced him. Imagine if he'd hauled off and punched the dude in the stomach while holding some brass knucks. The guy wasn't even coming at him.

 

[warongiygas]

I think he got caught, and his next thought was "I'd better hurt these people, maybe they won't be able to get me in trouble if I hurt them". And he honestly thinks that's okay.

Pretty much. Chris acted as though escaping the consequences of his actions was more important than the safety of those around him.

 

[Kosher Dill]

Pretty much. Chris thought escaping the consequences of his actions was more important than the safety of those around him.

... but enough about the Game Place incident.

 

[_blank_]

Here's my assumption:

Chris went into the Fashion Square with the full intent of telling the clerks to remove the Sonic Boom merchandise and send them back to Sega because it caused him sensory overload or whatever. When that didn't work, he would then attempt to proceed to vandalize the displays, as he had stated weeks ago that was his intent. Whether that meant sticking signs up on them or trying to literally paint the signs is up for debate.

Gamestop was also not his only stop during the day, as we have heard from the police scanner he was also raising a ruckus in Sears the same day. Even money is that he was in their electronic section, chimping out to the very confused sales staff there.

Instead of physically confronting Chris, the manager (the woman in the video in the black and white sweater) probably told Chris that they were calling the police. Chris, always being flight over fight, decides to do flee from the scene, the pepper spray being his typical "so there" smug retort he usually adds in his facebook posts/ Youtube videos.

No doubt if the cops hadn't intervened when they did, Chrs would have posted the manager's faces on his Facebook account and expected his imaginary troll army to attack his new Snyder.

 

[jemas42]

My money is on spite, not panic. He was fully sasing his arse out the door an maced the guy for no reason almost to clear his path.

Agreed. His "Don't call anyone" was not a panicked scream, it was a flippant, arrogant exit. Same with the spray. He didn't recoil from the guy, it was an offhanded "Well fuck you," gesture. I don't know if he went in intending to mace somebody, but he did not panic.