Chrono Trigger/Cross

[Megaton Punch]

Yeah I'm going to fire up the OG cross before the clean up hits.

I gotta say another one of my all time favs is FF6 and I know this sounds like nit picking but HOLY FUCK the text screen change is eye bleeding bad and really irked me. Esp in older games, I like pixel stuff but I dunno how to feel about FF6 pixel remaster, so I'm a bit worried what will happen to cross and gonna get it fresh in my mind before a replay.

I don't know how Squeenix doesn't understand that HD text on a pixelated background looks like absolute ass. I know it's words floating on a screen so it's not exactly part of the "game world", but with the correct font and placement it feels like the words are actually coming from the characters. When the text doesn't even remotely match the rest of the game's aesthetic, it makes the fact that you're looking at words printed out by a computer difficult to ignore and it feels very robotic and soulless as a result.

Literally all they have to do is import the original font and maybe clean it up a little for higher resolutions. I don't get how that's so hard for them.

 

[Captain Syrup]

It has weird slowdowns and looks worse than what you can achieve with the emulator.

Radical Nightmares edition.

 

[augment]

It's a great thing that the original Chrono Cross got a greatest hits rerelease. Scammers don't overprice them as much as "black label" PSX games.

 

[Dunsparce]

There is a special text-only scene that plays if you beat both Radical Dreamers and Chrono Cross then watch the credits from the main menu.

 

[Pissmaster]

I don't know how Squeenix doesn't understand that HD text on a pixelated background looks like absolute ass. I know it's words floating on a screen so it's not exactly part of the "game world", but with the correct font and placement it feels like the words are actually coming from the characters. When the text doesn't even remotely match the rest of the game's aesthetic, it makes the fact that you're looking at words printed out by a computer difficult to ignore and it feels very robotic and soulless as a result.

Literally all they have to do is import the original font and maybe clean it up a little for higher resolutions. I don't get how that's so hard for them.

A lot of their SNES games just use Chicago, a font designed to look good at low resolutions:


That font is owned by Apple, and I couldn't find a price on licensing it, but if Squaresoft could do it in the 90s, I'm sure they could work out something today.

That being said, it's not like there aren't countless free-for-commercial-use fonts out there. Even the trashiest YouTubers know to use them in order to make their thumbnails more appealing (to the point where HVD Comic Serif Pro stands out to me as a warning). Sticking to system fonts for their games is just bizarre, it accentuates how they feel so cheap and careless, like when you buy dodgy electronics online and they use those plain monospaced Chinese fonts with plain Latin characters, like the buttons on this:

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

There is a special text-only scene that plays if you beat both Radical Dreamers and Chrono Cross then watch the credits from the main menu.

I looked a bit and couldn't find video of this. Do you have a link?

 

[Dunsparce]

I looked a bit and couldn't find video of this. Do you have a link?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWtcFmr1T9U

 

[Manul Otocolobus]

If they had to remaster CC, they could have at least made an effort to make it so there isn't a huge plot dump at the end and rework the story so it's somewhat functional.

 

[Milwaukee Macho Man]

23 years and that's what they give everyone?

 

[augment]

If they had to remaster CC, they could have at least made an effort...

You are asking so much of square enix.

 

[Captain Syrup]

There is a special text-only scene that plays if you beat both Radical Dreamers and Chrono Cross

Congrats, Square Enix, you finally caught up with the developers of Lufia II.

 

[Manul Otocolobus]

You are asking so much of square enix.

Unfortunately, you are correct.

23 years and that's what they give everyone?

They figure the fandom is so desperate at this point they'll accept any crumbs they drop. Miserable bastards.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

They figure the fandom is so desperate at this point they'll accept any crumbs they drop. Miserable bastards.

They're not wrong, if they can get the original team back together then I don't think even modern Square could fuck it up. Especially with so much hindsight with player expectations and how Chrono Cross was received, the only error I think they could make is budgetary, making it like a side project.

I'm kind of hopeful for a sequel now, I just hope they don't hinge its existence on this controversial, lazy remaster. Which they will.

 

[xXx: State of the Union]

Hate to bring you all back to Earf, but look into your hearts and you know the next Chrono game is going to be a mobile microtransaction gatcha game or something.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

Hate to bring you all back to Earf, but look into your hearts and you know the next Chrono game is going to be a mobile microtransaction gatcha game or something.

...I'll take it.

Spoiler

As long as it has a good story and everything underneath the mobile trappings.

 

[Pissmaster]

They figure the fandom is so desperate at this point they'll accept any crumbs they drop. Miserable bastards.

Maybe so, but 23 years is a big chunk of our lives. Imagine if Nintendo had the cojones to drop the Mario series after 3, and only rereleased it in 2013 with, like, a bilinear filter and some random added slowdown for $20.

I think the Chrono Break trademark was the most excited I ever got over an upcoming video game, and it would have been the only game I would have ever preordered the moment I could. And hell, I'd have bought anything Chrono Cross up until some point in the late 2010s regardless of quality, but like, man, I've long since given up and moved on. Chrono Cross was the most beautiful PS1 game, and it was a crime that it was so heavily limited by a console known for such notoriously ugly 3D, especially since it was released the same year as the PS2. But it's hard to care about old, dead franchises getting new entries now, because:

Hate to bring you all back to Earf, but look into your hearts and you know the next Chrono game is going to be a mobile microtransaction gatcha game or something.

and that's damn right. Whenever I hear about a retro game series returning with a mobile game, it's basically like:

 

[Grub]

So, i'm still not understanding the purpose of this re release or why it's worth buying when i could just emulate an hd version that would literally run on my phone with my 8bit do controller.

https://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Chrono_Cross_Modifications_and_Translations.html

https://www.chronocompendium.com/Forums/index.php?topic=13562.0

Or even in 3d

Retroarch has a built in 3D Shader that lets you play games in 3D using a VR headset like Oculus, Vive or the Index. This shader apparently works with all cores/Playstation, N64, Saturn, Dreamcast, SNES, etc. When a game is running press F1 and scroll down to Shaders. Next go to Load and select shaders_slang/stereoscopic-3d/and select the side-by-side-simple shader. This shader will split the screen. Go back and then select Shader Parameters.

Why the fuck do people actually buy graphics remasters of 20+ year old games?

 

[Captain Syrup]

you know the next Chrono game is going to be a mobile microtransaction gatcha game or something.

The only thing worse than having the face of your franchise be Masato Kato:

A fifty year-old Tetsuya Nomura who can’t direct for shit anymore.

 

[augment]

A fifty year-old Tetsuya Nomura who can’t direct for shit anymore.

When was Nomura anything less than a useless faggot bent on putting zippers and belts on clothing and changing every character art sheet into the most androgynous fairy with stupid hair.

 

[Milwaukee Macho Man]

Why the fuck do people actually buy graphics remasters of 20+ year old games?

A combo of nostalgia, ignorance and being too stupid to emulate.

Honestly, I don't even believe the graphical component even means much to the average normie game player. I've talked about this in the unpopular opinion thread about 4K graphics, but to give a specific remaster example I knew a girl that was super butthurt that they didn't release the Call of Duty 4 remaster on PS3 since she didn't have a PS4 to play it at the time.

Trying to explain to her that she could just play Call of Duty 4 on her PS3 and that the entire point of the remaster was to get it running with textures and resolution that were only capable with a PS4 didn't even register to her. She just wanted it because it was a "remaster" as if that would make the game itself better or something.