Culture CloudFlare CEO Matthew Prince Responds To Employee’s Video Showing Her Getting Fired - “We Don’t Always Get It Right”

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“We Don’t Always Get It Right”: CEO Responds To Employee’s Video Showing Her Getting Fired​

Andréa Oldereide and Karina Babenok

A CEO admitted his company’s mistake of lacking humanity when they fired a woman who had gone viral for posting the moment she was laid off on social media.

The video in question saw former employee Brittany Pietsch filming herself while on a video call with two admins.

The clip was uploaded by a second party on the alexyardigans TikTok account, which posts a variety of different videos, and amassed 3.4 million views since it was posted on Friday (January 12).

In the video, the title reads: “Brittany Pietsch, an account executive at Cloudflare, records her layoff experience,” accompanied by a subhead just under it that reads: “POV (point of view): you’re about to get laid off.”

Brittany seemingly expected the meeting was coming, as she explained in the clip that a number of her colleagues had been “getting random 15-minute call invites all day,” likely getting fired.

As Brittany opened her video call, another subtext explained that her best friend at work had gotten a call to get sacked just 30 minutes before her own virtual meeting.

In the clip, Brittany is subsequently shown speaking to two different voices belonging to people she alleges she didn’t know: “a woman from HR (human resources) and a director man I’ve never heard of.”

As the director could be heard starting his statement and blaming her performance, Brittany cut him off and boldly exclaimed: “Yes, I’m gonna stop you right there,” which she followed in the clip with a text that read: “I wanted to stand up for myself, because what did I have to lose?”

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The discouraged worker went off to explain that she has had the “highest activity on her team” and “done a really great job managing her deals.”

In the video, Brittany asked why she was faced with two strangers rather than her manager, whom she said had given her nothing but positive feedback.

Throughout the call, the now ex-Cloudflare employee was seen trying to understand why she was being laid off without receiving any concrete answers.

In the video, she told them: “It must be very easy for you to have these little 10, 15 minute meetings, tell someone that they’re fired, completely wreck their whole life, and then that’s it with no explanation – that’s extremely traumatizing for people if you can imagine that.”

The representatives, who we later learned from the clip were called Dom and Rosie, replied: “I don’t think there’s anything we can say at this moment or today, Brittany, that’s going to change the way that you feel. Again, it’s understandable, I’m taking notes and feedback. We’ll circle back.”

Cloudflare is an American company that provides content delivery network services, cloud cybersecurity, and other IT services.

Taking to her LinkedIn page, Brittany revealed that her manager had no idea this was happening. She wrote: “My manager was just as blindsided as I was. On the call, you can hear the HR rep admit that they could not attest to what my manager has said about my performance.”

She further stated: “On the call, I was not attempting to save my job, but only trying to understand exactly why I was being let go in the way that I was. I felt like I was in the twilight zone.”

The disappointed account executive questioned: “We as employees are expected to give 2 weeks’ notice and yet we don’t deserve even a sliver of respect when the roles are reversed?”

Upon viewing the now-viral video, the company’s CEO, Matthew Prince, responded to the backlash.

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Taking to his X account (formerly known as Twitter), he wrote: “We fired ~40 sales people out of over 1,500 in our go-to-market org. That’s a normal quarter.

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“When we’re doing performance management right, we can often tell within 3 months or less of a sales hire, even during the holidays, whether they’re going to be successful or not. Sadly, we don’t hire perfectly. We try to fire perfectly.”

He continued: “The video is painful for me to watch. Managers should always be involved. HR should be involved, but it shouldn’t be outsourced to them, no employee should ever actually be surprised they weren’t performing. We don’t always get it right.”

The CEO also committed to handling such situations better in the future. Matthew said: “Any healthy org needs to get the people who aren’t performing off. That wasn’t the mistake here.

“The mistake was not being as kind and humane as we were. And that’s something @zatlyn [Michelle Zatlyn – COO of Cloudflare] and I am focused on improving going forward.”

Valerie Vadala, an experienced global talent acquisition leader told Forbes: “There were a few missteps here. I think the biggest is that her manager was not present.”

After seeing Brittany’s TikTok, Valerie explained to the publication: “It’s a sign of leadership to be present and to let the employee know that the company realizes it is personal.

“It’s incredibly painful to be laid off. To make it something cold and transactional is denying the reality that you have just gut-punched a person’s career trajectory.”

The HR executive further said that Brittany’s firing was “incredibly egregious” by making it performance-based. “If you are doing a companywide layoff, which this clearly was, don’t make it about performance,” she added.
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Original video won't upload for some goddamn reason:
https://www.tiktok.com/@brittanypeachhh/video/7322301313134415134


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Zoomer Cloudflare employee posts layoff call with HR on TikTok...

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Yikes! not a good look!
What an idiot zoomer. Posting your layoff call? I don't think I've ever heard of someone successfully fighting the layoff.

Maybe she should move her ad from Backstage to Backpage.
 
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Was she fired or laid off?

Because you can get laid off for literally any reason when they're trying to save money. They also have to prove they weren't biased when they laid people off, so if they fire some old fart, they'll lay off a 24 year old to show they didn't discriminate by age.

Also what a retard. Sales is the most volatile position you can have in a corporation. Expect to be laid off many more times in your life.
 
She worked in sales and she said herself in the video that she never closed any sales. Instead just coasting on relationships already made by the company. Hence no shit she got Whacked.
And she kinda screwed herself because, is anyone going to hire her after not only her attitude but that she would film herself if she were fired or weren't performing well?

With that said, this firing was done very poorly. Managers should be involved in order to confirm what she's saying, because she wasn't performing or doing her job, but she kept bringing up her managers.
 
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And she kinda screwed herself because, is anyone going to fire her after not only her attitude but that she would film herself if she were fired or weren't performing well?

With that said, this firing was done very poorly. Managers should be involved in order to confirm what she's saying, because she wasn't performing or doing her job, but she kept bringing up her managers.
What probably happened was that her manager was fired first for being useless managing a team of retards (like Brittany)
 
So just assuming as a baseline that she is being honest with all the stuff she's putting on record in the recording.
>her manager and her director have been giving nothing but positive feedback during her time at cloudflare
>suddenly she's being contacted by an HR staffer and some other director, neither of which she has ever met or spoken with before and being told she's fired
>the director's 'defense' is that she's not the only person they've been ambushing like this, there's been several others as well

On one hand, all this hinges on her being truthful, but the HR woman never contradicts her, so I don't see how she wouldn't. And it is technically possible that her director AND manager both were too scared to tell her she's being bad or a retard. Her admitting that she never closed a deal during her time at cloudflare would support that too.
But then they would have had avenues to pursue for justifying the firing that they hadn't bothered with. They could have gotten a statement from her actual manager, just an e-mail or a piece of paper saying "Yes, she is a retard, go ahead and fire her." They cited no such thing. So I'm inclined to agree that the whole 'your performance was sub-par' spiel was just legalese for "Cya never bitch. Also we ain't paying you shit for unemployment."

One line that springs out to me is
>my manager has no idea that this has been happening
How does this happen? How is there a whole spree of firings and the manager in charge of the people getting fired doesn't even know it's happening? Is this other director going around firing his coworkers' employees behind his coworkers' backs?

As for people calling her a Karen, yes. Good, based. Yass queen slay. I hope she does it again if she has a similar situation in the future. Companies like that are pieces of shit, I fully encourage everyone to be as Karen-y as possible to them. If they treat you like shit the way these faggots do, throw those fits, humiliate and expose them to the public. Make the public know how scummy they are and make a scene every time. Because every time you do, other, potential future employees see it and think twice about even applying. They will know that the way the company treated you, that'll be them a few months down the line. I'd love to see a business like this forced to address stuff like this and come up with justifications why this is okay and totally won't happen to the next sap that shows up.
 
She's in Georgia, which apparently is one-party consent. I don't know how that works if the HR rep was in a two-party consent state. On the other hand, what are they going to do, fire her?
Thats for general conversations and phone calls. Keep in mind this is a confidential meeting at a company with HR. Discussions with HR are almost always subject to explicit confidentiality requirements and have an automatic expectation of privacy for everyone involved. Its why companies always do the 'we can't comment on employees/former employees/etc..' in situations like this, even if the employee doesn't care. This isn't the same thing as recording a phone conversation, which you can't normally do with HR representatives either under most circumstances for the same reasons

As for what they'll do? Sue her ass off as if she violated an NDA and in some cases seek criminal prosecution. Don't fuck around with HR where confidentiality is concerned. They will make a point of making an example out of you to show their employees that however seedy as fuck HR can be they're adhering to confidentiality laws so people don't get ideas about suing them
 
Sue her ass off as if she violated an NDA and in some cases seek criminal prosecution.
I doubt she signed a NDA to work at some shit sales job. People normally want some sort on contract in exchange for that.

Don't fuck around with HR where confidentiality is concerned.
They have about as much power over her now as they do me. Which is zero. Ya anyone could sue for anything but Cuckflare likely just wants this to fade away. A lolsuit would bring more attention to it.


She did fuck her self over for future employment in my opinion though, because the next HR department is just going to google her name and find this drama.
 
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I actually can't think of a worse time to accept a sales job at a place like cloudflare than october/november. Every potential customer worth writing home about is already locked in with vendors for the runup to thanksgiving and christmas.

Plus obviously, cloudflare just being a terrible company to begin with.
 
Annnnd he apologized for doing nothing wrong.. What a moronic faggot!
Now activists and lazy/bad future employees have ammo on you.


She has pretty eyes. Not sure what's going on with the mouth, it looks unnatural.
I like the way she handled this. During Mati a lot of the chat was calling her a bitch and Karen. I can only imagine they've never had a job before. So what I'm trying to say is I would.

Too... just not hire her since it sounds like she wasn't the best worker.. not to mention pulling shit like this.
 
I don’t know why she’d be getting honest positive feedback if she’s never completed a sale. Sounds like they should’ve been honest with her poor performance from the get go. That is all on the manager for not being up front. I’ve seen this shit happen where the manager gives someone little or no warning before getting canned or a shitty performance review. If the bosses do it right, there should be no surprises. They picked her for a reason, one out of 40. She probably shouldn’t have wasted money on lip injections in hindsight.

Having said that, Matthew Prince and cloudflare are a bunch of bitchmade niggas.
 
Annnnd he apologized for doing nothing wrong.. What a moronic faggot!
Now activists and lazy/bad future employees have ammo on you.




Too... just not hire her since it sounds like she wasn't the best worker.. not to mention pulling shit like this.
It needs to be said again, but Matthew Prince prefers sexual relations with other men over women.
 
Sue her ass off as if she violated an NDA and in some cases seek criminal prosecution.
Yes. Yes! YES!

Prince, you beautiful faggot, you need to do this right now.

Stroke whilst the iron is a hottie. Sue her and do it loud and publicly!

Make sure everyone knows! It’ll turn out really well.
 
On one side I fucking hate dumbos who can’t do their job worth a shit, cut them off…
On the other hand I fucking hate how secure companies feel to pull shit like this over the phone. „It’s no big deal you’re being let go…“
If it’s no big deal then it’s no big deal to fire back with everything you got.
Make HR-Bitches afraid again!
 
Honestly, I can kinda get where she's coming from here. These days companies treat you like you aren't even human, just a unit. Time was you'd get fired face to face by your immediate superior, not having the company get 2 random fuckers you don't even know to do it over the fucking phone. It's legitimately demeaning the way companies no longer treat their employees like valuable assets and now treat them as utterly expendable, replaceable machines.
I’m surprised the thread isn’t harping on this but Null made an excellent point when he covered this on MATI: the real reason she was being let go was obviously not performance-based because her manager would’ve been involved and she would’ve been on a Performance Improvement Plan. She was actually let go because Cloudflare fucked up and overhired but they didn’t want to shill out unemployment benefits.

This is the height of treating your employees like expendable machines. You’re actively putting a false black mark on their career to save a pittance. Null is right - stealing from these corpo faggots is the height of virtue and everyone should pirate everything.
 
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