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Did he ever donate all that money to the dick cancer charity?
I haven't found any receipts on twitter, I heard he might have showed the receipts on a stream, but good luck trying to find that.

"I hated Comicsgate before it was cool":
https://twitter.com/NakatomiTim/status/1080742411721158656 http://archive.fo/0k5vm
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Ignore all comics that are not done by comic book companies. Ignore all IndieGoGo's that made money to create comics. Even if one doesn't really have much care for comicsgate, people like Tim and Renfamous are spergy enough for one to wonder if they've either been knocked down a peg or are trying to do some autistic victory dance.
 

LOL. Tim's a human potato living on the fringes of comics industry that desperately want to be invited to sit with the cool kids. Ethan is a comics legend and made mad bank from his Cyberfrog comic.

The only thing Tim won is fuck all and jack shit.
 
Against popular demand YaBoi, went with 'Comics MATTER w/Ya Boi Zack & Luna':
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He explains why in this video:
 
Probably a “friend” who got sick of her new found sjw shit and is dishing all the dirt.

The cosplay hag must be very pathetic and lonely, going from a Christian who hates gays to a raging SJW tard protecting the comics industry.

I've had at least 1 person that knew her when she was younger DM me talking about her & just being disappointed that she turned into such a terribly bitter person.

I think "MARK WAID'S KOOL KOMICS KLUB" is naturally the best name. All caps just like that too with extra bold on the Mark Waid.

Yet another reason for YaBoi to demand Mark Waid's name as part of the settlement.
 
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The cosplay hag must be very pathetic and lonely, going from a Christian who hates gays to a raging SJW tard protecting the comics industry.

All she needs is something to hate irrationally, and she has no actual ethical core. It could be some distorted hallucination about Nazis, it used to be some distorted hallucination about gays, tomorrow it will be some other irrational hatred. So long as it gets her the asspats she so desperately needs, she will continue to whore pathetically for attention.
 
Does he feel in charge?

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“I’m winning, I’m successful” said the increasingly nervous obese retard who makes garbage art nobody buys.

Tim tries incredibly hard to convince people he’s doing well yet we all know he’s probably making 1/10 what EVA and Meyer made off their KS. Those two have a successful indie careeer, Tim has his manboobs and tiny penis that’s more of an innie.
 
All she needs is something to hate irrationally, and she has no actual ethical core. It could be some distorted hallucination about Nazis, it used to be some distorted hallucination about gays, tomorrow it will be some other irrational hatred. So long as it gets her the asspats she so desperately needs, she will continue to whore pathetically for attention.

Ren is a bitter cunt that just needs someone to hate. She used to hate gay people until it because socially unfeasible for her, so now her targets are guys who make comics she doesn't like. If Nazis actually took over America like she keeps rambling about, a week later she'd be all over Twitter about how much she hates Jews.
 
'SOMETHING HAS TO CHANGE' (Archive)
Guest Column by Phil Boyle of Coliseum of Comics
Posted by Phil Boyle on January 3, 2019 @ 7:53 pm CT
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Phil Boyle, whose Coliseum of Comics chain is the largest comics and games retailer in the southeast, has shared his thoughts on what he sees as his top eight problems in the comics business, his solutions, and what publishers can do.

Joe Field recently laid out some ongoing concerns for retailers that I agree wholeheartedly with. I have been doing my own analysis of sales over the last several months because, as Joe put it, something has to give. I’ve spoken to several publishers about these concerns and though they all seem to have a sympathetic ear when it comes to the plight of retailers, those fettered by large-corporation policy will likely not be able to change things without some major catalyst.

As a quick background, comic retailers are currently buying under a plan that, though tweaked over the years, is essentially the same buying structure that was put on the table by Phil Seulling 46 (FORTY-SIX!) years ago. As one of the supposed "Old Guard" at my august 35 years, even I wasn’t selling comics when this deal was struck. To add fuel to the fire that we’re mired in old policy, Diamond’s monthly printed discount terms are based on sales data from 2006! I don’t see this as a Diamond problem as much as a problem that no publisher wants to be the one to put their foot down and make the changes that need to be made. Fleecing the retailer base is wonderful for the bottom line until everyone can’t pay their bills anymore.

I understand the pressure that publishers have to make sure that the bank account is full at the end of each quarter. I get the whole variants adding to that bottom line and pricing structures are safe for publishers. I understand that Diamond has only the funds that their margin allows so all the wants of the retail side of things simply can’t happen. I also know that Steve Geppi has personally (he owns Diamond outright) buoyed many stores through difficult times. I get how all these moving parts work but I see the plight of retail stores going into 2019 as more than just Amazon and ennui when it comes to actually reading when video and Kindle are so available. Everyone likes to think we’re all partners in bringing comics to the masses. Here’s a truth: Despite the best intentions and love of comic by the folks at Marvel and DC, Disney and Warner Bros./AT&T are not comic fans beyond what it amounts to on the bottom line. But we need a change and not a small incremental thing; we need a complete sea change.

Per above, we need a catalyst as everything will continue like the proverbial frog in a warming pan of water. Here’s what I’m changing in 2019.

1. The Problem: 90% of the books coming off the stands at the end of their shelf life have zero value as a back issue. After 3 months, many books become box-fillers and dead items that take up space. No one is looking for a 3-issue mini-series 6 months removed unless it features a new character and there’s a rumor circulating about his/her inclusion in a movie that was possibly green-lit. Between February and October we had, at cost, nearly $100,000 in books that were taken off the stands. 60% were instantly unsellable. 30% will languish if they’re still here in 3 months.

My Solution: We’re looking at each title and any title that falls in that 90% range is slated for sellout. We used to order for backstock and still will on that 10%, but the rest are now on their own. This means we cut to obvious sales. We can chase higher sales but the diminishing profits to do so are no longer viable. I estimate this will put at minimum $20,000 in my pocket each quarter.

What Publishers Can Do: Returnability is only part of the solution. With every issue declining after #1, retailers cut their orders to keep ahead of the precipitous drops. WE can’t afford to put $2 cost into stocking one extra issue of everything in (fleeting) hopes of selling one more copy. It’s roulette and betting on black or red; one you win, the other you lose. So orders continue to drop and there’s no seeding copies on the stands. Here’s the pitch: Give us a declining match-to and then sell us anything above that for 50 cents. Yeah, I know the math. The first copy costs $10,000, the second and every copy thereafter is 15 to 22 cents. So meet us halfway and sell us seed copies. It removes the need for returnability, puts more books on the stands, and helps retailers with cashflow. Without this, the sliding sales scale toward zero is hastened and more titles get canceled.

2. The Problem: Reboots. No surprise but every jumping on point creates in its wake a jumping off point. There’s a greater concern though: continuity. No, not continuity of Spider-Man wearing a hat on page 3 when he had his head cut off on page 2, continuity of series collecting. This industry was built on reading and COLLECTING comics. When you reboot, what has gone before is no longer valid, which contributes to the 90% mentioned in Problem #1. With the prevalence of reboots, fan no longer feel invested as they know that nothing is any more permanent than the current creative team.

My Solution: Keep making excuses? That’s not really a solution, which is why this one is solely on the publishers.

What Publishers Can Do: Commit to at least a 5-year plan. Even if creative teams change, the numbers shouldn’t so that some continuity of series is in place.

3. The Problem: First issues. This is the most abusive part of comic ordering. Let’s define a "first issue" before I go on: Any issue ordered with no previous sales data for the title. If it’s weekly, every issue ordered before we have a week of sales data on #1 is a #1 for ordering purposes. If it’s a one-shot, it’s a #1. If it’s a #1, it’s a #1 (just clarifying on that one). Every #1 these days seems to be a double-sized or larger-then-normal size issue that adds a dollar or more to the #1 cover price, exacerbating retailers’ exposure.

My Solution: If it’s a weekly series, it’s predatory publishing and it gets subs-only orders. ZERO for the stands. Sell out? In 3 months, no one will remember it anyways. If it’s a horribly priced #1, we order to sell out; there will be a second printing if it’s that great a book. We’re done chasing incentives, we’d rather chase profits. On one-shots, we order subs and what we feel will be a guaranteed sell-out, which is what we think we might sell minus 20%. This goes for any second issue as well that we have to order before #1 hits the stands.

What Publishers Can Do: Set a reasonable number based on a similar book – which should not be 3X of one of the mega-crossover events. Anything above that, sell it to us at the aforementioned 50 cents. It would provide more sell-in and more copies of books on the stands. If we don’t have #1 then our chances of selling #2 fall to immeasurably low numbers.

4. The Problem: Special covers from issue to issue. This is predatory publishing. Fourteen covers on #1, 4 on #2, one of which is a Skottie Young variant, and one of which is a promotion-of-the-month cover. #3 has 1 cover but #4 has 3 covers again. This is an obvious ploy to keep retailers from gauging actual interest in the title and inevitably leads to unsold books on the stands. Without some degree of stability, we’re ordering blind.

My Solution: Ordering to sell out than ordering blind sounds much better from my financial end. I’ll be cutting to absolute sales levels. Before anyone cries that I’m being the maker of my own low-sales prophesy by cutting orders, let me assure you that each of my stores will continue to carry the iconic characters and books championed by staff. Most fans can’t afford to buy all the comics they want so removing the four-issue spin-off-barely sequitur-to-anything mini-series from their options will actually be a relief. I hate making fans think that they NEED to buy every nuanced tie-in when they can enjoy the books they read and are excited about without muddying that experience.

What Publishers Can Do: Cull the stand-filling minis. I know, bottom line and more immediate, bottom line RIGHT NOW. But you’re killing the market, which means bottom line tomorrow will be worse.

5. The Problem: Discounts. I have all the expected expenses for business. Labor is on the rise. Insurance costs have skyrocketed. After 7 years of double-digit growth, sales have been mostly flat over the last 2 years. Prices go up, but it just means fewer comics sold for more money. The math is, I can no longer allow publishers space at a 50%, non-returnable discount. The sales tail is too short, and the variables are too many to accurately gauge sell-through. I have 2000 dedicated fans of all things geeky coming through my doors a week. You get access to them, my smiling staff, my well-lit stores, and our reputation as a great comic store. I ’m paying a lot to provide that. You have your expenses, I have mine.

That Marvel can sell recent $4.99 books to Walmart that go 3 for $5 means that the cost of these books are substantially cheaper than what they could be sold to us for.

My Solution: Subs only on non-returnable books that are 50% or less discount. We have so many books to choose from now that I can literally cut 40% of titles and almost no one will notice. As breadth is a recipe for diminishing return, fewer can be better. Make me NEED to carry your product.

What Publishers Can Do: If you can’t exceed 50%, give me FREE incentive copies to make up for it. 1/5 – not even a special cover, same cover is fine/preferred! Buy 5, get one more free. If I’m buying non-returnable, the conversation needs to start at 60% with incentives for growing the market.

6. The Problem: Books without a market. If I’m selling less than 10 copies as a chain of 8 stores, then it’s subscription only. When carrying books of lower-sale titles, we only had a 73% sell-through over 6 months for a 30% profit. As such books are selling pretty much only to special orders, when a customer drops the title, we eat it.

My Solution: Subs only on low-sales titles. I’ll be raising this to 15 copies after the first quarter.

What Publishers Can Do: If a book is shipping and my customers don’t know about it before they come into the store then it’s just another book on the stands. Many creators do a wonderful job of sending customers after their work. Too many launch unknown. Promote! Give me an incentive to carry #2 as #1 is too often a speculator-driven sale. Do everything you can to keep a book from falling from that threshold and we’ll do the same on our end. Once it goes below 10 copies right now, we stop tracking it, which means it’s on death watch.

7. The Problem: Rushed and inconsistent scheduling. The publisher had delays so we don’t see a title for 2 months and then we see 3 issues in 5 weeks. This may help the publisher’s bottom line, but it destroys our sales tail and diminishes sales.

My Solution: When this pattern occurs, I’ll automatically assume the burn-out from over-exposure is going to cost us 10% of readers. I’ll be making those cuts at FOC.

What Publishers Can Do: If you’re late, suck it up. Don’t make us retailers pay for your problem.

8. The Problem: Promo Items. I love nice promo items. Customers love them to some degree but even the nicest postcard is often found in the trash can right outside the store. Customers are overwhelmed with advertisements. Some look for those that target them and react. The problem is, publishers have a broad-brush promotional item and then want to sell it to us.

My Solution: Nope. Not paying for your promotions. You’re selling us non-returnable product with limited information and then you want to charge us to promote it? Nuh-uh. Not happening. Send us the promo items at no cost and IF it’s going to raise my sales, I might give you free counter space or free labor to bag-stuff them.

What Publishers Can Do: When I opened Coliseum of Comics, I did it on my own dime and didn’t realize a profit for several years. Publishers seem to want to put out a new comic to instant profit. This is a broad-brush statement but we’re talking about broad-brush promos. Give us a minor co-op budget to print our own fliers. Co-op can take the form of funds, added discounts, or added product.

So let’s face it, we’re not exactly partners. But we’re all sitting at the same buffet but the crumbs at the retail end of the table seem to be dwindling. We need to be partners. Some could survive via online and mail-order but far too many people would lose their livelihood if another 500 stores close; there’s a point where the systems in place cannot be sustained by the surviving entities.

I have 12 years of new comics sales data, but I look at last issue when ordering comics as there is no pattern to the freefall. If this doesn’t disturb you, it should. I am a single voice but I’m not alone in my concerns.
 

“I’m winning, I’m successful” said the increasingly nervous obese exceptional individual who makes garbage art nobody buys.

Tim tries incredibly hard to convince people he’s doing well yet we all know he’s probably making 1/10 what EVA and Meyer made off their KS. Those two have a successful indie careeer, Tim has his manboobs and tiny penis that’s more of an innie.

I always love this. "We've driven you out of the industry!!!" Yep! And you have effectively doubled or trippled his annual income, plus allowed him to build equity in his own property, that will then go forward and support his family in the future. You know all these old school indie guys? They aren't starving. And as an added bonus they don't have to work as hard. They found a niche selling directly to their customer base. By cutting out the corporate middle man they can survive and thrive on a smaller but more dedicated pool of customers. That's the dirty secret. You don't become a Millionaire working for Marvel or DC. You do it by owning and developing your property. Mike Mignola, Todd McFarlane, Robert Kirkman, etc. I guaratee Alan Moore gets a far greater return from his creator owned stuff than he ever saw from DC. Even with movie deals. EVS is not hurting and likely will not be hurting.

You would think this fool would understand that as his entire business is licensing other peoples work for merchandising. Somehow it never occurs to him that the other artists that he pays to license their art for his print business might, just might not be too happy with his online antics seeking to blacklist and destroy another well known artist. Regardless of whether or not they agree with EVS, most, at least the skilled old timers, are bright enough to wonder who this unhinged nutcase goes after next? And why would they want to get involved with him? Especially since in the modern era, they can easily sell their own merch. They don't need a third party print merchant anymore. And you have to wonder what the IP owners thing of ol' Tim here? I know his Conan license comes through a weird channel from a black sheep branch of the Frazetta family. And the core of the Family may ignore it, until this fool draws attention and starts doing brand damage. At which point the kids get involved and say to their relatives "please find another partner, or we start getting lawyers involved!" Tim doesn't grasp that the iceberg he is standing on while virtue signaling his superiority is melting. Others have learned to swim.

Oh, and the funny thing. Once the artist or creator leaves or is driven out of the industry to follow their own path? If or when they succeed, they command way more money from the big publishers to do special projects on their own terms. 2 years from now nobody at Marvel Corporate or DC will care about shitflinging on the internet. They will care that EVS is a popular artist who can sell half a mil worth of books on his own branding. Note that Frank Miller and Rob Liefeld get all the work they wish on their terms. At 10x the price of the grunts.

'SOMETHING HAS TO CHANGE' (Archive)
Guest Column by Phil Boyle of Coliseum of Comics
Posted by Phil Boyle on January 3, 2019 @ 7:53 pm CT
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That is a fantastic breakdown, and rightfully calls out the industry on many of its worst back end practices. And given the size of this guys retail footprint others will listen and join in. I mean Mile High Comics had to close their original flagship store this week. This piece reads like Martin Luther nailing his 95 Theses to the Church door. Sadly It will likely be ignored by the big 2. Do you think Ike Perlmutter is going to renegotiate any terms with the retailers? He makes Marvel employees bring their own toilet paper. (Which goes a long way to explain why the simply fling their shit at others...)

Of all the practices, the one that still blows my mind and confuses me is "Variant Covers". I've always wondered how this has gone on so long. It's a pure speculator driven thing. It's pure bubble. It can't possibly be that much of a sales driver. At least not with regards to the costs associated with producing a dozen different covers? Comic reader like a nice cover. A few might choose a variant over a more generic. But the attempt to artificially create collect-ability and thus drive current sales seems like a fools errand. When your new wildly anticipated #1 is selling 100,000 copies (a great selling comic these days) , the economics of producing a dozen different covers from the industries top artists seems suspect. You've eaten up all your extra profit by paying all the extra artist, printing, production and logistics costs. And by tying it to the retailer must buy x amount of product in order to get the book that they can resell at a wildly inflated price seems further suspect? I mean when the retailer needs to eat 10 normal copies at $2/per, just so he can get 1 extra special variant that he can sell for $20, this seems stupid at every level. The other day curiosity won out and I picked up the first story arc in the Dan Slot Fantastic Four relaunch. I got a variant cover of #1 from the discount bin... It had Black Panther and Storm. What a landmark collectors item! They made 34 different variant covers for this book. Including 2 by Mike Wierengo... which is remarkable as he's been dead for 10 years. How is this a sane or rational business practice for anyone involved? It's like the comics industry is run by a pack of gimmiky marketing people completely disconnected from the costs and returns of the business?
 
I always love this. "We've driven you out of the industry!!!" Yep! And you have effectively doubled or trippled his annual income, plus allowed him to build equity in his own property, that will then go forward and support his family in the future. You know all these old school indie guys? They aren't starving. And as an added bonus they don't have to work as hard. They found a niche selling directly to their customer base. By cutting out the corporate middle man they can survive and thrive on a smaller but more dedicated pool of customers. That's the dirty secret. You don't become a Millionaire working for Marvel or DC. You do it by owning and developing your property. Mike Mignola, Todd McFarlane, Robert Kirkman, etc. I guaratee Alan Moore gets a far greater return from his creator owned stuff than he ever saw from DC. Even with movie deals. EVS is not hurting and likely will not be hurting.

You would think this fool would understand that as his entire business is licensing other peoples work for merchandising. Somehow it never occurs to him that the other artists that he pays to license their art for his print business might, just might not be too happy with his online antics seeking to blacklist and destroy another well known artist. Regardless of whether or not they agree with EVS, most, at least the skilled old timers, are bright enough to wonder who this unhinged nutcase goes after next? And why would they want to get involved with him? Especially since in the modern era, they can easily sell their own merch. They don't need a third party print merchant anymore. And you have to wonder what the IP owners thing of ol' Tim here? I know his Conan license comes through a weird channel from a black sheep branch of the Frazetta family. And the core of the Family may ignore it, until this fool draws attention and starts doing brand damage. At which point the kids get involved and say to their relatives "please find another partner, or we start getting lawyers involved!" Tim doesn't grasp that the iceberg he is standing on while virtue signaling his superiority is melting. Others have learned to swim.

Oh, and the funny thing. Once the artist or creator leaves or is driven out of the industry to follow their own path? If or when they succeed, they command way more money from the big publishers to do special projects on their own terms. 2 years from now nobody at Marvel Corporate or DC will care about shitflinging on the internet. They will care that EVS is a popular artist who can sell half a mil worth of books on his own branding. Note that Frank Miller and Rob Liefeld get all the work they wish on their terms. At 10x the price of the grunts.



That is a fantastic breakdown, and rightfully calls out the industry on many of its worst back end practices. And given the size of this guys retail footprint others will listen and join in. I mean Mile High Comics had to close their original flagship store this week. This piece reads like Martin Luther nailing his 95 Theses to the Church door. Sadly It will likely be ignored by the big 2. Do you think Ike Perlmutter is going to renegotiate any terms with the retailers? He makes Marvel employees bring their own toilet paper. (Which goes a long way to explain why the simply fling their shit at others...)

Of all the practices, the one that still blows my mind and confuses me is "Variant Covers". I've always wondered how this has gone on so long. It's a pure speculator driven thing. It's pure bubble. It can't possibly be that much of a sales driver. At least not with regards to the costs associated with producing a dozen different covers? Comic reader like a nice cover. A few might choose a variant over a more generic. But the attempt to artificially create collect-ability and thus drive current sales seems like a fools errand. When your new wildly anticipated #1 is selling 100,000 copies (a great selling comic these days) , the economics of producing a dozen different covers from the industries top artists seems suspect. You've eaten up all your extra profit by paying all the extra artist, printing, production and logistics costs. And by tying it to the retailer must buy x amount of product in order to get the book that they can resell at a wildly inflated price seems further suspect? I mean when the retailer needs to eat 10 normal copies at $2/per, just so he can get 1 extra special variant that he can sell for $20, this seems stupid at every level. The other day curiosity won out and I picked up the first story arc in the Dan Slot Fantastic Four relaunch. I got a variant cover of #1 from the discount bin... It had Black Panther and Storm. What a landmark collectors item! They made 34 different variant covers for this book. Including 2 by Mike Wierengo... which is remarkable as he's been dead for 10 years. How is this a sane or rational business practice for anyone involved? It's like the comics industry is run by a pack of gimmiky marketing people completely disconnected from the costs and returns of the business?
That sure is a lot of words to just say “I hate women, blacks and trannies”.
 
TK’s wife was apparently threatened:
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And we got the idiots blaming CG speds already.
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Weird, I’m pretty sure the people recently hounding TK aren’t exactly what you’d call Comicsgate types. Here’s a reminder:
Tom King's 'Heroes in Crisis' issue 4 has triggered the POC (Perpetually Offended Crowd) with it's sexy looking women.
https://twitter.com/FizzVsTheWorld/status/1080422125805039618 http://archive.fo/dmmgg
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Poor King, post Batman 50 his popularity has taken a massive hit with general comic readers. CG spergs can't stand how he writes like he's on a therapy session about his PTSD and how he "disavowed" them. And now the SJW's are coming at him for referencing The Killing Joke and for having the women looking attractive.
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https://twitter.com/FemmesinFridges/status/1080647136046309377 http://archive.fo/SWkUn
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As you've probably noticed nearly all of the sperging is over sexy women and not his writing. You know the thing he's actually responsible for.

SJWs are even claiming he never was a CIA guy and trying to get him fired for it:
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They're passing this Tumblr around:
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January 2, 2019
I don’t think this is really a story about Tom King.

I. TRAINED TO BE GHOSTS
So, the other day, DC Comics announced a new publishing initiative called DC Rebirth.

(The other day was 2016).

And when DC Rebirth was announced, DC also announced that the new writer of one of the Batman comics would be a fellow named Tom King.

What struck me as a little daffy at that time about the DC Rebirth hype was that it wasn’t trumpeting King as a wordsmith with a track record of praised books under his belt. King had a respectable reputation at that point, books received with some polite applause, a critical mass that they could’ve focused on.

But instead of focusing on any of that, the announcement was instead that “King will be using his experience in counter-terrorism to bring new threats to Gotham.

Counter-terrorism was the centerpiece for how King’s Batman work was promoted. For example, Newsarama published an article entitled “REBIRTH BATMAN Writer TOM KING On His Own ‘Rebirth’ From C.I.A. To Comic Books,” where King explained that he was

“… supposed to go into law school and then 9/11 happened and I did this CIA thing. […] I was big into counter-terrorism, loved going overseas and that’s a very good job and very rewarding, but I had a kid and to be really good at that job, you have to be around 15 hours a day. With the counter-terrorism you have to be able to go 24/7. So those were the options I was looking at.

The interviewer was awed by King’s counter-terrorism credentials, asking some perfectly lovely questions like “Were you at headquarters in Langley” and “given your past as a C.I.A. operative, the stress level has to be somewhat lesser than that, right?

In other words, rather than ask King about his plans for Batman, comic interviewers were asking him to judge the job of writing The Batman on a scale of 1 to CIA counter-terrorism.

This is “a thing”, now. I remember seeing a lot of fans excited about how Charles Soule was an Actual Lawyer. Fans similarly seemed overly-excited that Gerard Way was formerly in some ska band. Or if I understand recent comics news correctly, a lot of fans are thrilled that comic books about talking toads are being created by a Real Life Cryptofascist. Fans suddenly want comic creators to have impressive resumes outside of comics now– perhaps a logical consequence of an era of aggressive comic creator self-branding.

And so King mentioned his CIA credentials often. It was part of his whole sales pitch to comic fans – it was why he was qualified to write about their favorite heroes.

But as I was reading all this hype about how Tom King’s past in the CIA had prepared him to write Batman comics, I found myself asking myself a pretty simple question:

Did I really believe that Tom King was an actual CIA agent?

II. RED LIGHT! GREEN LIGHT!
By 2016, I’d spent some time writing a kind of schlocky psuedo-commentary on comic news.

None of this writing was very impressive or interesting, according to Very Serious Comic Fans on the internet. If you missed it, you suffered no great loss. But I had wanted to explore the following premise: that maybe there was a toxic stew around the North American comic book industry of dishonesty, male insecurity, neediness, relentless careerism, selfishness, and silence, that (a) encouraged and excused bad conduct and (b) was therefore ultimately more significant in understanding why so many comics are terrible than anything one could learn reviewing some inconsequential issue of the Discourteous Avengers.

And it had turned out that there was plenty to write about. Constant sex scandals– the grodiest kind, frequently overlooked by the same comics creators who lectured fans online day after day. Intellectual property theft, that comic creators happily participated in. People claiming they were at the vanguard of creator rights, who had ripped off their co-creators. Creepy “male allies” and other curious, charmless do-gooders.

Dumb scams. Lazy writing. Bad apologies.

It all grew very tiresome. I’d rather review some issue of the Discourteous Avengers now, please and thank you.

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But did I believe Tom King was a CIA agent?

*Could* I believe that after what I’d written about?

…But of course, what did it matter what I believed?

Did it matter if I found it all a little odd, that some funny-book writer would super-casually volunteer that he had a history of being a CIA counter-terrorism agent just to sell Batman comics?

Of course, it didn’t matter.

After all, it’s not like I could write a letter to the CIA, asking them if Tom King was a spook!



I’m not a Republic serial villain.

I wrote to the CIA nearly three years ago.

III. THE LIST IS IN THE OPEN
I prepared a letter, and I faxed it into the CIA. I did it for the only reason really worth doing anything– I thought it’d make for a good goof for my prestigious tumblr blog. Here’s my letter:

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And perhaps you’ll notice something in my letter– something that I had noticed when researching the topic:

People do this!

People make up being in the CIA for personal benefit. And they don’t just do it in small ways– they go on FOX NEWS– they lie big– they lie that they’re ex-CIA in spectacular ways, and at a spectacular cost. It’s kooky, but this is a thing that happens.

It happens so often that it has its own name: "Stealing Valor.“

And if this is a thing that happens, I guess that means you can’t just take people at their word when they say they’ve been in the CIA. I guess…?

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So, that evening, I sent my paranoid little letter off to the CIA. Then, I had dinner, and then I went to sleep, not expecting anything.

Heck, I probably forgot that I’d even sent it– it was just a moment of tumblr-spurred mirth, after all. I had the notion that the CIA won’t actually tell you who its Secret Agents are. If you’ve ever wondered if Tom King was fibbing about his CIA career, you probably didn’t take that extra step of writing the CIA because (a) you have that same notion, that being a Secret Agent is, uh, a secret, and (b) unlike me, you tragically don’t have a sufficiently prestigious tumblr blog that you needed goofs for.

But I needed that goof-fuel, darling.

I certainly didn’t expect the CIA to write back!



Then, the CIA wrote back:

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First, let me note that it’s an extremely odd feeling to get a letter in the mail from the CIA. I always assumed the CIA didn’t communicate with people by ordinary mail. Based on a lifetime of bad movies, I just assumed that if I ever spoke with the CIA, they’d have a man in a black trenchcoat meet me in a park. Or I’m brown, so maybe I assumed that I would meet with the CIA under more “caged” circumstances.

I never imagined the closest my life would come to a spy novel would be “I got a form letter about a Batman writer”.

You kind of do a little ”am I on camera? Is this a Jamie Kennedy experiment?“ move before opening an envelope that has “The CIA” on it, too, which is great fun. All in all, I recommend having the experience.

Also an “extremely odd feeling”?

"We do not have a record of the individual.”
…. what?

But wait. Wait– wait!

There had been news articles. News articles about how he was in the CIA! Actual journalists had looked at this– not just schlocky commentariat that the Very Serious Comic Fans on the internet frowned upon. Real, entertainment journalists– the kind that write recaps of TV shows!

Entertainment journalism– that’s a proper thing, right? Isn’t that a thing?

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This was an e-mail exchange I had in April 2016 with a journalist for a general-audience internet publication– not a writer for a comics-focused website. Let me type out the interesting bit, in case that’s a little fuzzy for you:

He and Geoff Johns mentioned that he’d worked for the CIA during the creators announcement at WonderCon. From that, I did an interview with Tom at the convention. It was a quick turnaround. All of it was taken at his word and supported by DC. There have been comic press articles in the past mentioning that background, though it wasn’t the main focus. If you have reasons to believe his claims aren’t true, I’d be interested in hearing.

Oh dear, “entertainment journalism” might not actually be a thing, you guys!

This was an e-mail to someone who had written an article with the word “CIA” literally in its headline, essentially asking me (a random person e-mailing them) if perhaps *I had any information* about whether Tom King was really in the CIA.

Is that how journalism is supposed to work? I suppose that I don’t know. What the hell do I know about journalism? I just know what you know– that if you have lunch with Bari Weiss, apparently the thrilling taste of a shrimp salad sandwich and the pleasure of her company will somehow magically make you forget how completely noxious and toxic her contribution to public life is.

But maaaaaaybe, instead of “entertainment journalism,” all we really have are clickbait farms that are so desperate for “content” that they put a minimal effort into any kind of fact-checking, in order to more quickly churn out articles. In which case, we can’t rely on any of the shit that gets published as actually having journalistic merit, as having been checked or double-checked, as having been vetted or verified– especially when it comes to a “who really gives a shit?” industry like comics, since the point of the articles is just to generate clicks from a historically disrespected audience, not to challenge them.

And maaaaaaybe that’s a situation getting infinitely worse since even talking about the wrong guy could get you sued, including where comics are concerned.

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But wait, wait, wait, wait– look, there’s DC Comics. The entertainment journalist I had contacted said DC supported King’s story– Geoff Johns himself had vouched for that story. It’s not like DC would do all that without checking– right? It’s not like DC Comics would allow one of its star writers to steal valor– right???

Sure, we could say DC Comics has an imperfect history when it comes to “women” or “treating women like human beings” or “looking the other way for years and years after getting complaints that its employees mistreat women” or “hey they never fired any of the high-level executives who looked the other way for years and years while one of their editors preyed upon women, even though those high-level executives had thereby created an unwritten company policy to tolerate and thus ratify sexual misconduct, irreversibly damaging the culture around comics”.

Heck, we’d all say that they’re terrible people enabled by cowards, where that topic is concerned. All of us. Every single one of us. No hesitation.

But who is saying that DC Comics has a history of not catching that one of its writers was lying about having served his country?

…Oh, except True Believers might remember: DC Comics tooooootally has a history of failing to catch that one of its writers had lied about having served his country!

Back in about 2004, there was a comic called Stormwatch, and the writer of that comic claimed to have liberated Panama while working for the Army Rangers. All of which was true, except (whoopsie-doozy!) for the part about a comic book writer having liberated Panama while working for the Army Rangers, because duuuuuhhhh of course that wasn’t true– were you dopers all stoned on grass??? He was some frumpy comic nerd; that was obvious bullshit; he got caught (though not by DC, who did not give a shit, not enough to check); it was remarkably embarrassing.

But this is completely different than that.

This isn’t some comic guy ridiculously claiming to have liberated Panama while being an Army Ranger.

This is a comic guy claiming to have liberated Iraq while being a CIA Counter-terrorism agent.

Completely different!

But wait a second, Tom King also wrote for Marvel Comics. And it’s not like Marvel comics has a history of letting writers lie about who they are…

…except for when Marvel’s editor-in-chief lied about who he was, when bizarrely impersonating an Asian man, astonishingly without there being any real consequence for having done that, whatsoever.

So…



what?

IV. RELAX YOUR CRACK, FOGHORN
Anyways, after I got this letter from the CIA, nearly three year passed.

(Let’s just say if your question as you read this is “why didn’t you do better comics journalism”, the very most I am able to answer that question at the moment is to just wave my hand vaguely at those three years and then kind of shrug confusedly. The reasons for that will presently have to remain as secret as the truth about the CIA’s contact with UFO’s).

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Three years is enough time to take a deep breath.

Is this letter I received from the CIA three years ago evidence of… anything, really?

The answer is obviously no.

After all, the CIA also checked a box that says “A release was not provided from the individual. Please provide his/her authorization and resubmit the request.”

Because my letter didn’t attach some kind of release from Tom King authorizing the release of his personal information, perhaps the CIA was not in a position to really answer my question. Maybe they have to say they don’t know an employee if the employee hasn’t provided a release. Who knows? I don’t know how the CIA works. What do I know about the CIA??? I just know what you know– that George HW Bush had them invent AIDS.

Obviously, some form letter plus me fussing about comics history are alone not sufficient evidence to conclude anything. Not really.

Or when the CIA suggests that it doesn’t know anyone named “Tom King” – heck, maybe he didn’t use the name Tom King while he worked for the CIA. Maybe he had a cool spy name, like spies have in the James Bond movies. Maybe the CIA knows Tom King only by his Official Spy Name of Patty Myvagina or Vani LlaNipples. Or maybe Tom King is just his pen name, and his real name is Tommy Godemperor– maybe Tom King is his more humble pen name.

Or maybe the CIA forgot who Tom King was– maybe the CIA was just really hammered while he worked for them. Bitch, you don’t know the CIA’s life– you don’t get to judge us!

Or after that Stormwatch fracas, maybe DC Comics actually learned a lesson and put in place some kind of system (any kind!) to make sure none of its writers were possibly engaged in stealing valor before supporting and vouching for their service, rather than just trusting in the “moral character of comic book writers.” Maybe that’s a no-brainer that they should have such a policy given their history of dealing with some rather scummy-sounding individuals. And therefore, maybe it’d be extremely unusual if they were unable to answer (a) whether such a policy existed or (b) how Tom King’s claims about being in the CIA were checked on by them (if at all). Maybe that’s what this story would actually be about, in an ideal world!

(Put me down as being hypothetically curious about that, if anybody wants to ask, as I would sure expect that DC would be extremely cooperative with promptly answering such reasonable questions!)

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If you stop and think, there’s a million reasons why some CIA form letter is potentially meaningless– a million ways I could be made to look offensively stupid, in short order. Pay stubs! Medals and certificates! Employee ID! Friends from the service! Or maybe the CIA already has said something contrary to their form letter, that I somehow missed, or Tom King put some evidence out already that I’m blissfully unaware of. All in all, Tom King and/or his super-fans can most probably make me look very small and very foolish, very easily.

So am I saying you should not believe Tom King’s story or “official” biography? No, I am unable to say that, and am definitively not saying that, at this time. You are urged to continue to believe whatever it is you may have believed heretofore.

(Based upon the foregoing, and in order to make the foregoing again 100% clear, here is a little DISCLAIMER, affirming that I am neither stating nor implying that I have any substantive knowledge of any unique kind as to Tom King’s affiliations with the CIA or the veracity of his representations relating thereto, or DC Comics’s actions with respect to that subject, or the knowledge of any party in relation therewith. At best, I am offering only mere opinions on this topic (which I understand to be a matter of public interest) and in fact, my ultimate opinion on this topic is that any documents attached hereto are unreliable. Such documents and opinions are presented herein purely for entertainment purposes, and not to be relied on beyond the purposes presented herein, within these United States or elsewhere, from now until the end of time. I am further adding that though I have quite disliked the one or two Tom King comics I have read at present date and may have said so in an animated fashion for entertainment purposes, I have no personal malice towards Mr. King and in fact, wish him the best, in all of his future endeavors. Nothing contained herein shall be deemed as a waiver of any of my rights at law or in equity, all of which are hereby expressly reserved).

V. A RADAR TOWER IN ALASKA
And so once this gets properly snope-d, (*if* that should happen… shrugs confusedly), it’s more likely than not that

  • the CIA’s form letter will be proven to be an innocent mix-up;
  • my suspicions will be proven paranoid, disgraceful, dull;
  • DC will be happy to explain all the things they did to properly investigate Tom King’s claims before vouching for them in the media;
  • I’ll somehow be made to look even more buffoonish than ever before– which is no small feat.
It will be a great day for everybody – except terrorists, who would have to continue to fear the writer of The Batman, day and night.

(And I guess I’ll have made an enemy of a counter-terrorism specialist– Jack Bauer might take a break writing about the Penguin to set up a perimeter around my one-bedroom apartment. That might suck, but wheeeee, life’s an adventure!)

But regardless of what happens next, regardless of what embarrassment may be coming my way, I will say this: watching Tom King for the last three years, and getting to ask “But What if He Weren’t” has been delightful. Just getting to ask that question has been a gift.

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“There used to be a bounty on my head from the fucking Taliban– I can deal with a few Twitter followers.”

These quotes have been weirdly entertaining for me, in a very dark kind of way, difficult to verbalize. I’ve gotten to see these (possibly innocuous) statements as fun clues to a Mystery that other people weren’t even trying to solve. Does this sound like a real-life CIA Agent to the rest of you?? How am I the only person going “W-w-wait a second” here??? But maybe that iswhat a CIA agent sounds like– probably that’s what we ultimately learn from all this! After everything, why would I expect the Deep State would sound any better than that??? Wheee!

It has been a singular experience for which I am enormously grateful to the CIA and Mr. King. It’s been a real crack-up.

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The part that I actually keeping coming back to, though, the part that’s been the most interesting part for me hasn’t been what job some guy had before writing Batman. No, the part I keep coming back to is the part we started at:

Why do comic fans want Batman to be written by a CIA agent?

Why is that a selling point?

What does it take to be good at writing? Oh, a career in counter-terrorism.” – Charles Dickens.

Wait, wait, he never said that because that’s not a thing people go around saying!

And yet comic fans seem to believe it. Why?

Counter-terrorism experience has very little to do with the job of crafting characters, believable dialogue, solid plotting, interesting page layouts, etc. I don’t read his comics, but I’m not sure I understand how dreaming up “What if Batman got engaged to Catwoman?” ever necessarily required a jaunt to Mahmoudiyah, how one informs the other. It just seems to be a non-sequitur.

During those same nearly-three years, some left-leaning guy was fired from writing GI Joe, allegedly because he clumsily expressed some (very dumb sounding) 9/11 sentiment online (though IDW disputed that). And Marvel Comics during that same time tried to publish a team-up comic with military contractor Northrup Grumman, that it had to cancel after a backlash.

Maybe for comics fans, having a leftist write G.I. Joe wasn’t America enough, the Northrup Grumman comic book was too-America in ways that it’s uncomfortable to think about, while the guy who writes Batman being a CTU agent is just America-enough, in some kind of psycho Goldilocks scenario.

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I subscribe to a certain level of “Support the Troops”, at least as I define that phrase for myself. I don’t know how positively I feel about the CIA’s history generally or in Iraq specifically (some of that torture stuff sounded pretty uncool!)– I don’t know what I make of our foreign policies generally. But I had a Midwestern upbringing and as such, I suppose that I do believe to some extent in certain old-fashioned ideas about sacrifice and there being a respect owed that. At least, I had a friend who didn’t quite survive Iraq, not really, so I feel a certain way about that. And perhaps that’s a feeling or an experience shared by many comics fans.

But my gut’s saying that’s not the whole story, though, about why fans would get so turned on by the idea of a CIA Batman writer.

Comics– you pick up sometimes on a lot of messy relationships with the concept of masculinity. People might not remember, but comics used to have these utterly grotesque message boards where comic people would yell “LOOK AT ME, I LOVE WHISKEY” at each other, night after night, role-playing He-Man at each other. And it certainly bleeds into the contents– it’s a lot of characters solving problems through fight scenes; a lot of orphans who never knew their dads because OH EXQUISITE PAIN; a lot of women who have to die because they don’t understand how hard it is to Man. Ahhhh, to Man– so difficult!

You pick up on this being a hobby particularly beloved by people with damaged relationships with their father figures.

Maybe a story about the writer of Batman being a CIA agent gives those fans some feeling of being macho-adjacent, that fills some hole for them, that satisfies some fantasy, for reasons maybe too dark to really talk about much.

VI. THIS TAPE WILL SELF-DESTRUCT
But I don’t think this is really a story about Tom King.

When you look at the whole structure of things, when you look at How the World Is, with comics, with anything…

How much do you see a system that can be easily gamed?

Put another way: do you believe you live in a world where people have it in them to be dishonest? Do you live in an ecosystem that gives people a motive to lie?

And if so, do you believe you live in a world where our systems work, and our institutions work, a world where dishonest people will be caught and not allowed to promulgate falsehoods without being stopped? Do you believe you live in a world with journalism in it and not just hot takes? Do you believe you live in a world where anyone’s checking the hype, besides creeps on tumblr who Very Serious Comic Fans all gave up on eons ago?

Do you believe you live in a world where the truth matters to anyone?

And if not, if your answer to any of these questions is no, then who do you trust? Who can you trust if you fear that you live in a world where dishonesty is a winning strategy? Why trust anyone? Why trust anything?

I’m not a comics journalist (generally)– comics journalism probably just gets you sued. And to the extent I might have liked for actual “comics journalism” to have been done here, (waves hands at three years and shrugs confusedly).

But maybe we can both at least marvel at what’s possible, how much might be possible, in these confused times, among these sometimes-troubling people. All the bizarre and uncanny possibilities, in this strange place where we hope we are awake.

Which TK had to respond to:
https://twitter.com/TomKingTK/status/1080586230461538304 http://archive.fo/lTjxM
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You can never please these assholes:
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Batman 50, nope. CG spergs, nope. It was SJWs that finally made Tom go into mass blocking:
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Also, Joe Glass still a pathetic fat faggot:
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Yeah, I have no idea what Tom King's wife has to do with any of that and Ivy/Harley fags are idiots.
 
Someone threatens your wife and the first thing you think to do is run to twitter to update your followers on your block policy.

Tom, King of Soy.

Of all the practices, the one that still blows my mind and confuses me is "Variant Covers". I've always wondered how this has gone on so long. It's a pure speculator driven thing. It's pure bubble. It can't possibly be that much of a sales driver. At least not with regards to the costs associated with producing a dozen different covers?

I think a big part of the variant covers is that you have to collect them all. Not all variants of a single issue, but all variants drawn by a single artist. Like, if you're a collector and you have terrible taste, you might collect all those ugly action figure variant covers.

They're like the Funko Pop of comic book covers.

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No, these variants have no value (except, maybe, as a complete collection), but they scratch that collect-'em-all itch that some people have. The big problem on top of their lack of value is that these covers are often reprinted by artists in portfolio collections. So you can spend thousands of dollars picking up every variant by a particular artist, or you can wait ten years and pick up the coffee table book of his cover art for $20 on clearance at Barnes and Noble.

A total shitshow.
 
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