#Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

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It's hilarious given that a big issue in comics that was pointed out was this type of behavior too. Seriously, the biggest lesson you can learn about "creative" fields due to events like CG are that animators and artists tend to be manchildren or emotionally 12, and the writers may be this or failed in their previous jobs.

Regardless, assume everyone is a weirdo on some level.
I agree with your general point but this is not being a "weirdo", I love weirdos and manchildren, this is sociopathy and scheming from old men in their 40's and 50's that are mad that their internet friends left the club. But the unforgivable part about this is how terribly unfunny it is to watch.
 
That was some serious inquisitorial behavior like he's some kind of dude rooting out fucking heresy or some shit. Doug may be kind of autistic but that's asshole behavior.
I think that's what bugs me about Ethan's shit the most. Doug is basically just a typical 90s boomer who's not 100% aware of what's going on or how to act online but at least he's honest about himself, while Ethan is acting like an inquisitorial cult leader who expects holy tribute for his help and everyone to follow the party line, while only being interested in improving his own standing and credibility. The little cult he's built for himself is made all the more noticeable by his fanbase in the youtube chat, and the whole "Uncle Ethan" shit always weirded me out. Its why shit like this and GG tanked, because of shitty e-celeb in-fighting and vocal "representatives" on twitter acting like the voice of the group by trying to turn movements into marketable platforms for good press and attention whoring. Usually by manipulating or backstabbing one another whenever someone didn't follow the party line or using moronic arguments like "our enemies are the real racists/sexists/transphobes" to boost their public image. Just say you hate the current state of comics/games and let more people know that voting with your wallet can make a difference and be done with it instead of policing other people who support your group and forming a cult of personality around vocal e-celeb fags. Otherwise you end up with fucks like Ethan using movements for their own benefit.
 
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I think that's what bugs me about Ethan's shit the most. Doug is basically just a typical 90s boomer who's not 100% aware of what's going on or how to act online, but Ethan is acting like an inquisitorial cult leader who expects holy tribute for his help and everyone to follow the party line, while only being interested in improving his own standing and credibility. The little cult he's built for himself is made all the more noticeable by his fanbase in the youtube chat, and the whole "Uncle Ethan" shit always weirded me out. Its why shit like this and GG tanked, because of shitty e-celeb in-fighting and vocal "representatives" on twitter acting like the voice of the group by trying to turn movements into marketable platforms for good press and attention whoring. Usually by manipulating or backstabbing one another whenever someone didn't follow the party line or using moronic arguments like "our enemies are the real comic/game haters and/or racists/sexists/transphobes" to boost their public image. Just say you hate the current state of comics/games and let me more people know that voting with your wallet can make a difference and be done with it instead of forming a cult of personality around vocal e-celeb fags. Otherwise you end up with fucks like Ethan using movements for their own benefit.
I knew this shit was going to end up like GG the instant the pissing matches on Twitter started.

Now all we need is for Marvel/DC to keep going for the next decade like nothing happened while all these idiots crash and burn for the comparison to be complete.
 
That was some serious inquisitorial behavior like he's some kind of dude rooting out fucking heresy or some shit. Doug may be kind of autistic but that's asshole behavior.

I've only got a passing familiarity, but I found myself siding with Doug, who made clear and reasonable points about the issue at hand.

"CG is not what I thought it was so I left"
"CG is controversial in ways I don't want to be controversial so I left"
"I have decided I don't want to be involved in an online shitstorm due to licensing issues, so I'd like to just move on"
"People wanted to know why I left, so I discussed that with them privately rather than make a big public thing about it"

Ethan, on the other hand, sounded like a manipulative girlfriend who knows she's on the way out the door, but in a fat old man's body, starting off with:

"I helped you. You owe me"
 
I've only got a passing familiarity, but I found myself siding with Doug, who made clear and reasonable points about the issue at hand.

In general, I like Doug more, frankly, and this just cemented that. I think this was dreadful behavior by EVS, but merely autistic behavior by Doug. Doug has every right to his opinions and to state them in any way he wants at any time he wants without retaliation.
 
So I watched parts of the stream here and there, and fucking EVS. Kept calling GC a movement and how doug was hurting the movement. When honestly WHAT THE FUCK IS THE MOVEMENT ETHICS IN COMICS JOURNALISM?

The way both EVS and DOUG talked was just fucking sad. And shame on nick he's got children he should turn on the fucking dad voice and shame both those old men for their Faggot behavior.

Fuck Pull in Jim and have him just mock those two for 30 minutes.

"Oh Oh dont hurt he movement doug just dont run it down there are other people waiting ree ree"

The only interesting thing in this comic gate shit is the Zack Vs Wade.

Fuck at this point EVS should just give some money to his "enemies" so that they can give him more shit to scream about.
 
I've only got a passing familiarity, but I found myself siding with Doug, who made clear and reasonable points about the issue at hand.
Same here, I have very little knowledge about comicsgate other than EVS being the figure head. Looked at his channel for some star wars critique, and I see he has 3 hour streams all over the place about comics gate, so I saw him as a defacto leader of that group, and I knew Doug and EVS were on friendly terms. A few weeks ago when I heard Doug was blocking EVS on Twitter I assumed Doug was just being a bitch and two-faced about some drama. Blocking is something SJWs do after all. That was literally all I knew when I started watching the Nick stream and thinking EVS was gonna DESTROY Doug with FACTS and LOGIC and Doug would just embarrass himself as he boomered out.. Doug is a boomer, but wow, he came out way ahead in that stream. My perspective completely flipped and all my sympathy is now with Doug. EVS is now who's raised a lot of my suspicions. I won't go as far as most of you guys seem to in this thread where he's being accused more harshly of being super manipulative and he's leading a cult. Those may be fair assertions but my thought is that EVS is just not thinking enough about his actions and position (Read: he's dumber than he thinks). He's got too wrapped up in being a leader of comicsgate, which he wants to brand and use to help sell comics. I'll admit that that's a charitable view of EVS, but again, this is just my opinion as someone who knows basically nothing of the lore. Just posting for what it's worth.
 
Speaking as an atheist dude who bangs other dudes, I'm not a big fan of Christians who push the whole "you're an abomination/not Adam and Steve/sodomites going to Hell/blah blah blah" thing....

BUT I also believe that guys like Doug and his ilk have every right to their beliefs and express them. As long as they're not hunting faggots like me for sport, I honestly don't care.

@FROG, if you're reading this, forget about all this drama and focus on Cyberfrog and your other projects. Let Doug do his own thing. You have made it clear that you want CG to be about accepting all customers and that you feel that Doug and his associates aren't. Just leave it at that and stop wasting time and energy trying to change their minds.

I truly do appreciate you standing up for cocksucking comics fans like me, but I worry that you're getting caught up in the drama and 'tard slap fighting, and losing sight of the big picture, which is making comics people want to read with awesome art and fun stories that aren't beating us over the head with ORANGE MAN BAD! and EVERYONE I DON'T LIKE IS A NAZI!
 
Same here, I have very little knowledge about comicsgate other than EVS being the figure head. Looked at his channel for some star wars critique, and I see he has 3 hour streams all over the place about comics gate, so I saw him as a defacto leader of that group, and I knew Doug and EVS were on friendly terms. A few weeks ago when I heard Doug was blocking EVS on Twitter I assumed Doug was just being a bitch and two-faced about some drama. Blocking is something SJWs do after all. That was literally all I knew when I started watching the Nick stream and thinking EVS was gonna DESTROY Doug with FACTS and LOGIC and Doug would just embarrass himself as he boomered out.. Doug is a boomer, but wow, he came out way ahead in that stream. My perspective completely flipped and all my sympathy is now with Doug. EVS is now who's raised a lot of my suspicions. I won't go as far as most of you guys seem to in this thread where he's being accused more harshly of being super manipulative and he's leading a cult. Those may be fair assertions but my thought is that EVS is just not thinking enough about his actions and position (Read: he's dumber than he thinks). He's got too wrapped up in being a leader of comicsgate, which he wants to brand and use to help sell comics. I'll admit that that's a charitable view of EVS, but again, this is just my opinion as someone who knows basically nothing of the lore. Just posting for what it's worth.

The preferred phrasing is "he's not as smart as he thinks he is"

The other thing that struck me was when Ethan was whining about "unblock me on twitter then!" and Doug came back with a simple "I'm not going to do that. I like my twitter more now"

Seriously, why is a man that old worried about who has blocked him on twitter, let alone throwing a public tantrum over it? Very disappointed in Nick for not asking that in terms at least that blunt
 
So, who plays the role of Jim, and who plays the role of Sargon???
I don't pay too much attention to this shit, but my guess would be EVS is the Sargon of Comicsgate. It seems that everyone else is not enough of a nihilistic faggot to be Jim, and just want to do their own thing. The closest thing to Jim would be Nerkish, but Nerkish has an actual life besides the internet and doesn't give enough of a shit what EVS's orbiters do.

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@FROG, if you're reading this, forget about all this drama and focus on Cyberfrog and your other projects. Let Doug do his own thing. You have made it clear that you want CG to be about accepting all customers and that you feel that Doug and his associates aren't. Just leave it at that and stop wasting time and energy trying to change their minds.

Has EVS even finished a single edition of CyberFrog? Hasn't it been 18 months at this point?
 
Has EVS even finished a single edition of CyberFrog? Hasn't it been 18 months at this point?

Hey, cut the man some slack. He's trying to achieve something that's never been done before. It's not like a third of the internet has been filled with frog cartoons for years or something here
 
I'm not exactly well versed in this particular brand of autism, so bear with me. It seems like both Doug and Ethan are distancing from each other for business reasons. Doug is claiming comicsgate is globohomo spergery that damages his up and coming product, Ethan claims that Doug is an undercover inquisitor SJW and damages comicsgate products by scaring away faggots.
What, aside from their massive egos and tiny dicks, stops them from kissing and making up, and containing their twitter spergery to laughing at modern comics and pushing their own products? Why the fuck do even grown men care about what goes on on twitter?
 
Again not gonna dick ride him but ya boi zack deleted twitter and has made some good business calls, he s mentioned EVS but has wisely stayed out of the those two drama, Though being in a lawsuit probably make gives him another reason to keep his head down.

Also if EVS would rather stream for 3 hours a day screaming about SJW's instead of drawing or writing or what ever it helps that he has shit to Ree about.
 
A bit of an old news and probably nobody cares anymore, but it turns out that DC in July shiped some comics at multiple price points due to different cardstock or variants or whatever the fuck and they were split in rankings due to that. Doesn't really matter, point is that it turns out that combining those different releases Batman #75 actually sold 100k copies and was in Top 10: https://www.comichron.com/monthlycomicssales/2019/2019-07.html

So yeah, DC having problems with killing Batman.
 
A bit of an old news and probably nobody cares anymore, but it turns out that DC in July shiped some comics at multiple price points due to different cardstock or variants or whatever the fuck and they were split in rankings due to that. Doesn't really matter, point is that it turns out that combining those different releases Batman #75 actually sold 100k copies and was in Top 10: https://www.comichron.com/monthlycomicssales/2019/2019-07.html

So yeah, DC having problems with killing Batman.
This doesn't look like DC applying pressure against Comicchron to rework their numbers at all.

@damian revise your Excel sheet that shows obvious decreasing Batman sales before some hired goons show up at your house.
 
I don't follow. You are saying that DC pressured Comicchron to "fix" the numbers? This isn't a new thing, I remember way back DC released two versions of comics when they did 3D covers, one with 3D cover and another with regular cover. They also were split into two different items.
 
This doesn't look like DC applying pressure against Comicchron to rework their numbers at all.

@damian revise your Excel sheet that shows obvious decreasing Batman sales before some hired goons show up at your house.
This screams of damage control, they've never been counted together before. You'd have separate entries or even no entries at all for incentive collectible covers, specially if they had different price points.
 
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